asuustrike2009:

Mr sabi sabi study your Bible and stop behaving like a child

SweetJoystick:

You obviously lack knowledge of what you seek to defend, it's crystal clear your bereft of even bible passages to support your views, all your fish brain can process for you to mutter is read your bible, na koran I read wey I take know say I'm not supposed to pay tithe or that tithe was food and was like a welfare package for the priest and less privilege?
Have a nice day

lovingJehovah:
No true Christian tithes.You cannot pour new wine into an old wineskin

Tithing is for the Jews and not for Christians. You cannot claim to tithe and be a Christian at the same time. It is an insult to the law of Christ.

petra1:


Wrong! What of offering ? Is offering old wine or new wine ?



Wrong ! Was Abraham a Jew . Was Jacob a Jew ?. They all paid tithes in their generation . Did God ever stopped offering and tithes

OkaiCorne:


From Genesis to Revelation, I did not see any verse where God stopped all these laws which also included tithing;

Deutoronomy 22 v 11-12;
11"You shall not wear a material mixed of wool and linen together.
12"You shall make yourself tassels on the four corners of your garment with which you cover yourself.…

Leviticus 19:19
'You are to keep My statutes. You shall not breed together two kinds of your cattle; you shall not sow your field with two kinds of seed, nor wear a garment upon you of two kinds of material mixed together.If you are not doing these, what could be your reasons sir?

petra1:


Christ fulfilled them . The law of diversity and segregation was about the preference of isreal above the Gentiles . Not to mingle or mix with them . They were the unclean . And christ has made all one .

Acts 10:14-15 (KJV)
But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean. And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.

Galatians 3:28-29(KJV)
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

petra1:


Christ fulfilled them . The law of diversity and segregation was about the preference of isreal above the Gentiles . Not to mingle or mix with them . They were the unclean . And christ has made all one .

Acts 10:14-15 (KJV)
But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean. And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.

Galatians 3:28-29(KJV)
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

OkaiCorne:


It's nice to see that you are giving figurative interpretations to literal instructions given by God.

When God gave the instructions on mixing linen and wool, God was referring to the Israelites and the Gentiles abi? Be adding to God's word.

1) As for tithing, are you saying Christ did not fulfill the obligatory requirements that the Law requires of tithing? Did Jesus fulfill the Law fully or partially?

2) Where did God instruct His children to pay tithes (especially in monetary form) both in the old and new testament?

PaChukwudi44:


This bros would have done better as a comedian.Chai!!! arguing from both sides of his mouth.

PaChukwudi44:


This bros would have done better as a comedian.Chai!!! arguing from both sides of his mouth.

petra1:


He told the Jews to separate from them . The separation was figurative . They were not to mix with Gentiles . Remember the woman at the Well .

petra1:

John 4:9 (KJV)
Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans.

It depends on what you are gunning at. If it's about righteousness Yes. But the law has contents that are based on eternal kingdom principles . Jesus fulfill the burnt offering or sin offering . But he didn't fullfil your personal freewill offering to God not your alms giving to the poor . Nor your fasting or prayer .its your personal responsibility . The law is only condemned if a man doesn't the work of the law with the hope of being justified ,saved or being made righteous by them . Because christ is our righteousness . But principles of the kingdom transcend dispensation . They are eternal . I can't say because Jesus has sacrificed himself I can't sacrifice to God .

Romans 12:1 (KJV)
. . . . present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

petra1:

Those who rear unclean animals which cannot be brought to the house of God gave money . Also They have the option to redeem their tithe and offering by paying cash .

Leviticus 27:31 (KJV Strong's)
And if a man will at all redeem ought of his tithes, he shall add thereto the fifth part thereof.

Leviticus 27:27
27 If it be of an unclean animal, the owner may redeem it according to your valuation, and shall add a fifth to it; or if it is not redeemed, then it shall be sold according to your valuation.


Luke 18:12
12 I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I gain.

OkaiCorne:


Would you like me to refer you to Torah experts and Jewish historians to validate the fact that God gave these instructions literally? The law was so stringent that the Israelites did not mix seeds on their field while planting...neither did they mix wool and linen while wearing clothes.

Read your bible again, Jesus fulfilled the LAW in totality and not partially. Tithes and offerings were replaced by sacrificial giving out of a LOVING HEART for God and man. Sacrificial giving was far more flexible and broader than the stringent requirements of tithing.

When a zealot is boasting to Jesus that he has tithed beyond the instructions God gave on what should be tithed in a bid to prove self-righteousness...please advice me, should I use the zealot's basis of tithing or should I follow the clearly laid instructions given by God on what to tithe?

Should the zealot's standard replace God's instruction on tithing?

By the way, why did you skip the part of Deuteronomy 14, where God stated that gold and silver should be used to purchase livestock, wine and any other thing you want at the temple as the tithe? Or you think the traders that Jesus chased at the temple in Jerusalem where just there because they didn't find shops elsewhere to operate?

petra1:


Ok



Kindly leave area you don't fully understand. The problem with the law was that it was a shadow of righteousness . Jesus is the reality . It spoke of christ . Are you saying the contents of the law are now condemned ? Are you aware Paul quoted the law . Are you aware the law was the scriptures in their day. That's by the way . We don't tithe because the law say so . We don't give alms or offering because the law say so but rather because they are principles in Gods kingdom .they existed ever before the law came



Wrong . They gave according to the law. Money was allowed .



if money were not given why would there be money changers in the first place .

OkaiCorne:


Dear Lord, do you realize that Jews were a global race that soujourned in foreign lands back in those days? Money changers were acting like what the forex market is today. After converting the money, the foreign Jews would use the money to buy the food stuffs and animals as their tithe.


Bros you need to do thorough research on Jewish History ooo

Just to add, choose between the Law (old Covenant) and Grace & Love (new covenant). You cannot be doing both.

Paul made reference to the law explaining how the new covenant has taken its place. Or are you implying that Paul preached that the Law is still binding on Christians?

Ephesians 6:2 (KJV)
Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise

I almost skipped this...bear in mind that animal sacrifice preceded the law and was fully active when Jesus spoke with the Pharisees in Matthew 23 v 23

petra1:


My point is . We are not under the law as an institution. But there are principles in the kingdom of God . Some in the law . Some before the law . They are eternal . Almsgiving is a principle . Offering and tithes are principles , honoring your parents is a principle .same goes for prayers and fasting Why singling out only tithe?

Ephesians 6:2 (KJV)
Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise

Why will the man you follow be quoting the law for new creation?




All that jesus fulfilled are done away. He's the lamb ,goat ,and all the burn sin offering

John 1:29 (KJV)
The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

But your tithe ,your personal freewill offering ,alms ,prayer have no fulfillment ,rather Christ is the highpriest over our tithes ,our prayers and offering

Romans 8:34 (KJV)
It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

C

petra1:


My point is . We are not under the law as an institution. But there are principles in the kingdom of God . Some in the law . Some before the law . They are eternal . Almsgiving is a principle . Offering and tithes are principles , honoring your parents is a principle .same goes for prayers and fasting Why singling out only tithe?

Ephesians 6:2 (KJV)
Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise

Why will the man you follow be quoting the law for new creation? Because he's dealing with it as principle . Even though it's in the law.




All that jesus fulfilled are done away. He's the lamb ,goat ,and all the burn sin offering

John 1:29 (KJV)
The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

But your tithe ,your personal freewill offering ,alms ,prayer have no fulfillment ,rather Christ is the highpriest over our tithes ,our prayers and offering

Romans 8:34 (KJV)
It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

C