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Re: Reply To Chinua Achebe's There Was A Country. By Alabi Isama. by ipodstinks: 6:18pm On Dec 15, 2017
imhotep:

Just admit that you hate Chinua Achebe and be done with it.
Your arguments are rather weak.
Oh, hate cos I said he lied in his book. So if I love him, I should believe in what he said he was told?

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Re: Reply To Chinua Achebe's There Was A Country. By Alabi Isama. by Nobody: 6:21pm On Dec 15, 2017
ipodstinks:
Oh, hate cos u said he lied in his book. So if I love him, I should believe in what he said he was told?
You are creating strawmen, not really arguing.

The typical strawman argument creates the illusion of having completely refuted an opponent's proposition through the covert replacement of the opponents proposition with a different proposition
Re: Reply To Chinua Achebe's There Was A Country. By Alabi Isama. by Guestlander: 6:47pm On Dec 15, 2017
Olabestonic001:



Your head dey there!
That's why I never took his account of that war serious. It's like Gobachev telling us the account of WW2 grin
Believe a Propaganda Minister at your own peril!

Or Josef Goebbels giving unbiased account of Nazi Germany.

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Re: Reply To Chinua Achebe's There Was A Country. By Alabi Isama. by ipodstinks: 6:50pm On Dec 15, 2017
russellino:


Is that all? I thought you would show pictures of alabi-isama singlehandedly defeating 200 biafran soldiers with his bare hands

Lies lies lies grin grin kontinu
You can continue to drink the I was told fallacy that chief revisionist Achebe gave you. grin

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Re: Reply To Chinua Achebe's There Was A Country. By Alabi Isama. by ipodstinks: 6:54pm On Dec 15, 2017
imhotep:

You are creating strawmen, not really arguing.

The typical strawman argument creates the illusion of having completely refuted an opponent's proposition through the covert replacement of the opponents proposition with a different proposition
I am just laughing at you grin.

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Re: Reply To Chinua Achebe's There Was A Country. By Alabi Isama. by konoplyanka: 7:01pm On Dec 15, 2017
imhotep:

You can't even construct a sentence properly and you are here arguing about history grin grin grin

I believe you got the message. cheesy
Re: Reply To Chinua Achebe's There Was A Country. By Alabi Isama. by Nobody: 7:05pm On Dec 15, 2017
ipodstinks:
I am just laughing at you grin.
Because you really dont know how to respond abi grin grin
Re: Reply To Chinua Achebe's There Was A Country. By Alabi Isama. by ipodstinks: 7:07pm On Dec 15, 2017
imhotep:

Because you really dont know how to respond abi grin grin
Respond you, so I should tell you what I was told also grin

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Re: Reply To Chinua Achebe's There Was A Country. By Alabi Isama. by Nobody: 7:09pm On Dec 15, 2017
ipodstinks:
Respond you, so I should tell you what I was told also grin
Igbo amaka cheesy cheesy

Re: Reply To Chinua Achebe's There Was A Country. By Alabi Isama. by Nobody: 7:16pm On Dec 15, 2017
This is just propaganda... they have started tribal politics because 2019 is close...

APC is jittery and want to start the regular tribal pattern of politics..
Re: Reply To Chinua Achebe's There Was A Country. By Alabi Isama. by Nobody: 8:05pm On Dec 15, 2017
Why do people gain pleasure in twisting history?
Re: Reply To Chinua Achebe's There Was A Country. By Alabi Isama. by Nobody: 8:09pm On Dec 15, 2017
simijimi:
Why do people gain pleasure in twisting history?

Re: Reply To Chinua Achebe's There Was A Country. By Alabi Isama. by stev120(m): 8:19pm On Dec 15, 2017
i won't agure wether Achebe was in the front war. .but his book was recommended by elites professionals as highly historical quality. . Achebe work at radio Biafra with Pete (the popular actor) he receives fresh untapped news from war front. ..isama never gave evidence of the Biafra troops killing northern residents. but the killing of asaba children is concrete world wide. ..

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Re: Reply To Chinua Achebe's There Was A Country. By Alabi Isama. by booblacain(m): 8:19pm On Dec 15, 2017
bakynes:
The truth is that a Biafran cannot write about the War and won't be biased likewise a Nigerian.

The accounts of a foreigner is the best we can get from the War.

I keep telling Igbos that, the Biafran Army also did alot of atrocities, all is fair in War those days.

My Mother told me about her eye witness of how the Biafran Air Force did an aerial bombardment on Lagos,they dropped a Bomb right in Ebute-metta Casino killing Hundreds of People, she said all the glass widows in my grandfather's house were shattered due to the proximity to the Casino, they went to the scene later and they saw skulls of human heads and burnt bodies.

Likewise the aerial bombardment that happened in Kaduna and Kano which made many Hausa-Fulani enroll for the Army to fight in the War.

So both the Nigerian and Biafran Forces were brutal just because the Nigerian Army eventually won doesn't mean Igbos should start seeking sympathy when they also carried out massive slaughter on the minorities and on Nigerians.

Have heard or read about the Manchurian operation? Have you ever heard the word "red flag"? Please, do a little research on these terms, they will help broaden your perspective on those incidents you mentioned.
Re: Reply To Chinua Achebe's There Was A Country. By Alabi Isama. by patrick89(m): 8:33pm On Dec 15, 2017
ipodstinks:
Why will there a prove. But if it was Achebe that posted the pictures, there would be enough prove cheesy grin. Even with the one having guest house having aba in the pics. No be ipob again, they will be saying fake but will never bring facts to destroy the fake post. Just negodu grin
Take your rubbish inside red rusted zinc. Your history distortion is well known everywhere ..

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Re: Reply To Chinua Achebe's There Was A Country. By Alabi Isama. by ipodstinks: 8:51pm On Dec 15, 2017
patrick89:

Take your rubbish inside red rusted zinc. Your history distortion is well known everywhere ..
Lol, OK, I will start believing what I was told. Achebe, Achebe. I was told, I heard. Very laughable grin

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Re: Reply To Chinua Achebe's There Was A Country. By Alabi Isama. by Intrepid01(m): 8:52pm On Dec 15, 2017
Even I that wasn't born during the war, I read Achebe's book and could spot many lies and fallacies. I lost my respect for him straight up. How could an old man be fanning flame of fire ? He was a dissappointment in death.

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Re: Reply To Chinua Achebe's There Was A Country. By Alabi Isama. by meccuno: 8:57pm On Dec 15, 2017
Intrepid01:
Even I that wasn't born during the war, I read Achebe's book and could spot many lies and fallacies. I lost my respect for him straight up. How could an old man be fanning flame of fire ? He was a dissappointment in death.
please what were the lies?
Re: Reply To Chinua Achebe's There Was A Country. By Alabi Isama. by Nobody: 9:04pm On Dec 15, 2017
knowledgeable:


Yorubas must always figure out a way to defend the atrocious nature of the Hausa/fulani in Nigeria, especially where it has to do with Igbo matters, at the same time seeking the hands of Igbo women in marriage.

So what are those positive attributes they see in a culture that they are seeking to destroy?. They have sacrificed their own lives to be together with Igbos at the same time seeking their destruction,(politically, economically etc)while Igbos have sacrificed their own lives to part ways with Yorubas, at the same time don't care about any thing Yoruba(politically, economically etc) including their women.

Conclusion: Yorubas are proactively and offensively engaging the Igbos, while Igbos are reactionary responding to their offensivenes......Therefore, Yorubas are the most dangerous existential threat to the survival of Igbo people, worst than Hausa/fulani.

You have said the fact. They simply want the Igbo decimated. But they will not succeed.
Re: Reply To Chinua Achebe's There Was A Country. By Alabi Isama. by ipodstinks: 9:55pm On Dec 15, 2017
jomonic:


You have said the fact. They simply want the Igbo decimated. But they will not succeed.
For saying the truth. Now tell me, what is anything hatred in what was posted here. Why are you people love playing victim? Happy no one is falling for that anymore. We are only discussing the past, but cos you people have no point, you decided to put emotion. Keep wallowing in ignorance.

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Re: Reply To Chinua Achebe's There Was A Country. By Alabi Isama. by russellino: 10:19pm On Dec 15, 2017
ipodstinks:
You can continue to drink the I was told fallacy that chief revisionist Achebe gave you. grin

Abeg leave my mentions. I don gree. Alabi-Isama singlehandedly overpowered 2000 biafran soldiers grin grin
Re: Reply To Chinua Achebe's There Was A Country. By Alabi Isama. by russellino: 10:24pm On Dec 15, 2017
Esseite:
This is just propaganda... they have started tribal politics because 2019 is close...

APC is jittery and want to start the regular tribal pattern of politics..

You hit the nail on the head
Re: Reply To Chinua Achebe's There Was A Country. By Alabi Isama. by abimbolayekeen: 10:32pm On Dec 15, 2017
Achebe book is full of lies and atrocities .

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Re: Reply To Chinua Achebe's There Was A Country. By Alabi Isama. by ipodstinks: 10:38pm On Dec 15, 2017
russellino:


Abeg leave my mentions. I don gree. Alabi-Isama singlehandedly overpowered 2000 biafran soldiers grin grin
Childish taunt. I didn't remember inviting you to comment in the first place. Let agree what Achebe heard or was told. cheesy grin

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Re: Reply To Chinua Achebe's There Was A Country. By Alabi Isama. by Igboid: 1:19am On Dec 16, 2017
“Among the large majority hailing from that tribe (Yorubas) who are most vocal in inciting the complete extermination of the Igbos, I often heard remarks that all Nigeria’s ills will be cured once the Igbos has been extaminated from the human map , ”
Dr Conor Cruise O’


What's new.

These children of hate will never stop being ful of hate.

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Re: Reply To Chinua Achebe's There Was A Country. By Alabi Isama. by Duru1(m): 1:43am On Dec 16, 2017
T9ksy:





LOBATAN!!!

How can such a person who is also a world accalimed "Story teller" be expected to write the absolute truth about the biafran war without his bias rearing its ugly head? He can't as it is a natural human phenomenon ! However, our brothers swalliwed achebe's BS, hook, line and whole stinker even when most of his "story telling" account were from 2nd unveriable sources but are quick to debase Alabi's 1st hand account, as pure lies.



Hmmmmm i sincerely bow to ibo's logic 101 grin

I guess you are the butt of the jokes in this discourse. Alabi-Isama is the only sector commander who seemed to be in every sector during the war. I read from his crap how his troops captured Afipko and handed it over to the elements of 1st Div and withdrew to Calabar to plan the invasion of Port Harcourt. Anybody who was around knew that Calabar, Port Harcourt and Nsukka were the first major cities in Biafra to be captured by Nigerian troops.
Re: Reply To Chinua Achebe's There Was A Country. By Alabi Isama. by Duru1(m): 1:54am On Dec 16, 2017
Intrepid01:
Even I that wasn't born during the war, I read Achebe's book and could spot many lies and fallacies. I lost my respect for him straight up. How could an old man be fanning flame of fire ? He was a dissappointment in death.

Throughout the rubbish vomited by Alabi-Isama, did he mention one Brigade or even a Battalion commanded by him? Granted the dynamic nature of 3MCDO during the war, Alabi-Isama was regarded as a political soldier. He was sector 3 commander yet he oversaw the issues in sector 1, 2 and even 4. Lt Col Ayo Ariyo was the sector 4 commander in Calabar and its environ along the border of Nigeria/Cameroon and served as the Executive officer hence the Chief of Staff. Before then, Ayo Ariyo was sector 2 commander.
Re: Reply To Chinua Achebe's There Was A Country. By Alabi Isama. by blaqoracle: 4:14am On Dec 16, 2017
Diiet:
Achebe was a tribalist and his
books are full of lies.His books contribute a lot to the confrontations we are seeing today between yorubas and ibos. I won't say more than this because he's now dead.
even few days to his death, Achebe was still a coward.
Re: Reply To Chinua Achebe's There Was A Country. By Alabi Isama. by blaqoracle: 4:20am On Dec 16, 2017
Duru1:


I guess you are the butt of the jokes in this discourse. Alabi-Isama is the only sector commander who seemed to be in every sector during the war. I read from his crap how his troops captured Afipko and handed it over to the elements of 1st Div and withdrew to Calabar to plan the invasion of Port Harcourt. Anybody who was around knew that Calabar, Port Harcourt and Nsukka were the first major cities in Biafra to be captured by Nigerian troops.
as long as alabi is player-withness,his account is more admissible in history than the comment you-kwashiokor survivor offsprings., are ranting online.

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Re: Reply To Chinua Achebe's There Was A Country. By Alabi Isama. by Nobody: 8:52am On Dec 16, 2017
ipodstinks:
For saying the truth. Now tell me, what is anything hatred in what was posted here. Why are you people love playing victim? Happy no one is falling for that anymore. We are only discussing the past, but cos you people have no point, you decided to put emotion. Keep wallowing in ignorance.

There is no point in arguing with you. What i believe is that one day our bondage shall end. I am happy that much of the developed world knows about what is happening in Nigeria. To you rascals the status quo is forever, but you will be shocked as to how help will come to the Igbo from sources that understand the way of bullies and how to deal with them. Just one day.
Re: Reply To Chinua Achebe's There Was A Country. By Alabi Isama. by ipodstinks: 9:15am On Dec 16, 2017
Duru1:


I guess you are the butt of the jokes in this discourse. Alabi-Isama is the only sector commander who seemed to be in every sector during the war. I read from his crap how his troops captured Afipko and handed it over to the elements of 1st Div and withdrew to Calabar to plan the invasion of Port Harcourt. Anybody who was around knew that Calabar, Port Harcourt and Nsukka were the first major cities in Biafra to be captured by Nigerian troops.
This one must be at that war front. You really tried.

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Re: Reply To Chinua Achebe's There Was A Country. By Alabi Isama. by ipodstinks: 9:33am On Dec 16, 2017
jomonic:


There is no point in arguing with you. What i believe is that one day our bondage shall end. I am happy that much of the developed world knows about what is happening in Nigeria. To you rascals the status quo is forever, but you will be shocked as to how help will come to the Igbo from sources that understand the way of bullies and how to deal with them. Just one day.
Just negodu, what crab is this one saying? You shouted hatred. But we all watched you on YouTube looking for Hausas in the bus. Those hausas you were looking for, you want to play with them or show love to them with cutlasses in your hands ba. Kanu telling you to attack Yorubas when you see them is act of love and humanity ko. You want to eat your cake and have it. Same way you killed western n northern in the past, still mocking them that you killed their leaders like chicken that infuriated them and made them killed you in hundreds, only for you to come to Lagos that didn't have any attack on you to bomb the Yorubas inside casino. And you expect us to forget even though we didn't react cos of that. You are joking. You people planted seeds of hatred but want to harvest love, who does that. You want to sell a Sandy goods but not ready to collect a stony money. You must be a comedians. Abeg, who hold you down? If you are really ready to leave, all of you should leave west and go back home. Abeg carry your victim cry away from here. You think the world did not see your handwork. And you never wondered why God did not answer your prayers. Commot abeg.

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