NgeneUkwenu:
Ok

NgeneUkwenu:
TonyBarcanista Do you still hold the same view about ATIKU?

NgeneUkwenu:

[P author=icon02 post=63360977]The whole epistle above only describes one person.
He is no other person other than ATIKU ABUBAKAR.
ATIKULATION 2019

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Atikulation in Biafran Republic.

TonyeBarcanista:
@Ngeneukwenu

You are a ruling party that is expected to campaign with what the government has done to warrant reelection instead of negative campaign on Atiku. The mistake PDP made in 2015 was to be campaigning with Buhari lack of certificate and "bigotry" instead of selling Jonathan's achievement. You are towing that path.

Do NOTE that I don't have candidate yet BUT I will campaign for Atiku IF I get convinced of his candidacy or my party, PDP, present him.

TonyeBarcanista:
Check very well, I'm not a campaigner of Atiku YET but anything can happen in future if I'm convinced that his candidacy is good for both PDP and Nigeria (and also myself as an interested entity).

For now, my party has array of credible aspirants and I'm yet to align with any yet

NgeneUkwenu:


I asked you a simple question...and you went about beating the miserable bush...

I repeat, do you still hold the same view about Atiku Abubakar?

NgeneUkwenu:


Then how would the voters take you and your ATIkU Seriously after penning down that article just 8 months ago?

I mean at a stage in life, one needs to maintain a little degree of consistency, at least for the sake of those looking up to you for Guidance.

TonyeBarcanista:
Check very well, I'm not a campaigner of Atiku YET but anything can happen in future if I'm convinced that his candidacy is good for both PDP and Nigeria (and also myself as an interested entity).

For now, my party has array of credible aspirants and I'm yet to align with any yet

NgeneUkwenu:
[s]Four Valid Reasons Nigeria Cannot Afford To Have Atiku In Aso Rock In 2019 By Tonybarcanista



I have been observing the recent moves by a former Vice President of Nigeria Alhaji Atiku Abubakar, who is also a veteran aspirant for the office of the President. Atiku Abubakar has suddenly shifted from his subtle campaign for President to what seem to be like an almost direct campaign for the number one seat in the country. In the Social media, some sycophantic groups and individual with inspiration from their stomach have been making noise by endorsing the Turaki Adamawa-perhaps, with expectation of gratification “when the time comes”.

While I am not against Alhaji Atiku Abubakar to exercise his right to aspire for the office of the President in 2019 or any office in Nigeria, I have the responsibility as a young man, a patriot and a youth leader in my own right to enlighten Nigerians and eligible voters about Alhaji Atiku Abubakar’s candidacy (just like I would to any other aspirant for the office).

I shall give some reasons why Alhaji Atiku Abubakar is unfit to occupy the office he is aspiring for;

1. Lack of Integrity:

During the period when he was the Vice President of the country, Atiku was appointed to chair the Petroleum Technology Development Fund by the President, Chief Olusegun Obasanjo. As Chairman of Petroleum Training Development Fund(PTDF), Atiku lodged over $30million and $164 in Trans International Bank and Equatorial Trust Bank respectively from the account of PTDF according to EFCC’s forensive indictment in 2006. In fact, ‘loans’ that yielded interest as high as 15% to the banks were collected from the said banks by Atiku and his proteges AFTER PTDF millions of dollars has been lodged with the illegal account. It was all business! When the deal was busted in 2006, Atiku simply said that he ‘kept the monies for safe-keeping’ and even claimed that he deserves commendation. He brought back the PTDF “capital” that he put in private account and benefited hugely from it.

Atiku Abubakar was indicted by EFCC, Senate, and a Presidential Committee. He is yet to clear his name. As usual, a court that he went to never discussed whether he was innocent or guilty, but simply said the FG Committee lacks power to investigate and indict Atiku Abubakar because they weren’t courts.

You may look these for reference.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6402241.stm
www.saharareporters.com/2006/09/24/objatiku-scandal-what-efcc-failed-disclose-thenewssaharareporters
www.saharareporters.com/2007/02/28/breaking-news-ptdf-scandal-senate-indicts-obj-atiku-impeachment-motion-looms

It is a shame that we are in a country where we forget easily. Otherwise, how could sane Nigerians be asking for Atiku’s Presidency when Nigerians in unison were asking for him to come out clean as for back as 2006.

Apart from the PTDF, Nigerians are yet to understand how Alhaji Atiku Abubakar from a humble background became an extraordinary billionaire despite the fact that most of his productive adult life was spent in the Nigeria Custom Service.

There is also an indictment on Atiku in the USA, I am yet to see him take up the challenge to take a trip to the United States as requested by exPresident Olusegun Obasanjo in 2014.

2. Tribal Supremacism:

One of the challenge of President Buhari’s administration is that he is more aligned with his brothers in the north than with the rest of the country, though Buhari has never hidden where is primary loyalty lies (his north). While many think Atiku is detribalised (we can only be patriotic and not detribalised anyway), the bare truth is that Atiku is a northern supremacist that believe that his northerners should always align with their own. Unlike Buhari, Atiku is pretentious about his- but his sin shall find him out.

In 2010, in their bid to stop Goodluck Jonathan from seeking the ticket of PDP in the 2011 Presidential election, Atiku Abubakar, Aliyu Gusau, Gen IBB and Bukola Saraki(now Senate President) all submitted themselves to Adamu Ciroma led Northern Political Leaders Forum to come up with a a consensus NORTHERN candidate to upstage Southern Goodluck Jonathan. Atiku was eventually chosen as the eventual “northern candidate” over Saraki, who wasn’t considered “northern enough” by the Ciroma led Forum. Atiku led a campaign in the north that he christened “Naka Sai Naka” meaning “Northerners go for your own”.

The record is there for all to see http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-12193681

3. Insincerity And Deception:

Atiku is a very wealthy man no doubt, but of late we have seen a picture of him drinking sachet water aka pure water. When did Atiku start drinking such? Who is he trying to deceive? We won’t forget the N40 sacthet Milo/tea gimmicks that the Buhari campaign employed to deceive gullible Nigerians into believing that he was a “poor man”. We won’t forget the “akara” frying stunt of Mrs Aisha Buhari during the electioneering period in 2015. We should realise that when politicians are desperate, they take to any act just to impress and deceiving the gullible into giving them their votes. #NeverAgain should we be falling for such. It amounts to deception in the part of the elite to continue to use such gimmicks.

Also, Atiku has been making case for federalism and stuffs, but in ALL his years in Aso Rock as VeePee, he never initiated nor suggested such. In fact, Atiku was a very powerful VeePee between 1999 and 2003, as he was in charge of home-front while Obasanjo was travelling the world, yet he never thought of any pro-Federalism/restructuring policy. It is true that he fought against the third term agenda of Obasanjo, but we all know that he did it so that he can be able to succeed the president in 2007- he didn’t do it for Nigeria.

4. What Does He Have To Offer That He Can’t Suggest To Incumbents?

Atiku is part of the political system in Nigeria. In 1993 he ran for President, but lost to MKO Abiola in the Social Democratic Party primary election. In 2007, he ran for Presidency under Action Congress, but lost to Umaru Yaradua of PDP, and coming behing ANPP’s General Buhari. In 2011 he ran for Presidency and lost to Jonathan in the contest for PDP ticket. In 2014, he ran again but lost to Muhammadu Buhari in the APC primary, coming behind second placed Rabiu Kwankwaso. Now he is eyeing 2019! What is Atiku looking for after serving as Vice President for eight years? What did he forget in the villa that he wants to go back to get?

Atiku is already 70, he will be 73 in 2019, he is not an outsider of the system (like the American Trump), what does he have to offer that he couldn’t offer as VeePee? What stops him from sharing his “developmental” ideas to the incumbents since 1999 (considering that he was always in the incumbent parties)? What stops Alhaji Atiku from grooming younger, smarter and intelligent politician for the plum job?

Like I said earlier in my first paragraph, I am not against the right of Atiku to seek office, but I am against the idea of him becoming President. Nigeria cannot afford to continue to rotate failures and grannies. We need generational shift in leadership, we need to retire the system elite and bring him visionaries in 2019.

Nigeria has to be great for our own good, and we must make it great!

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TonyeBarcanista:

There is NO perfect human anywhere in the world... We all have our faults.

Political contest about who is better in service delivery between people that are interested in the office. It isn't something between Saint and Angel...

Remember that Buhari was accepted in 2015 simply because he has perceived to be better than former incumbent Goodluck Jonathan as at that time but prior to that, specifically in 2011, he was rejected in favor of same Jonathan.

People clamouring for Atiku are not doing it because they see messianic status in Atiku but because of the belief/perception that he will be better than what we have at present. Does that erode some of the perception of Atiku? ABSOLUTELY NO!

In fact, whether or not I support Atiku in the future, it will/may not change some fundamental perception I have of him as penned in that Article except I feel convinced otherwise.

NgeneUkwenu:


I asked you a simple question...and you went about beating the miserable bush...

I repeat, do you still hold the same view about Atiku Abubakar?

TonyeBarcanista:

There is NO perfect human anywhere in the world... We all have our faults.

Political contest is about who is better in service delivery between people that are interested in the office. It isn't something between Saint and Angel...

Remember that Buhari was accepted in 2015 simply because he was perceived to be better than former incumbent Goodluck Jonathan as at that time but prior to that, specifically in 2011, he was rejected in favor of same Jonathan.

People clamouring for Atiku are not doing it because they see messianic status in Atiku but because of the belief/perception that he will be better than what we have at present. Does that erode some of the perception they may have on Atiku? ABSOLUTELY NO!

In fact, whether or not I support Atiku in the future, it will/may not change some fundamental perception I have of him as penned in that Article except I feel convinced otherwise.

NgeneUkwenu:


Are you now calling your article you supported with valid proofs and links on why the man is unfit for the office, a mere perception? Wonderment!!!

I wouldn't have bothered pasting your essay here, if not for the effort you are making here to rebrand an expired good like Atiku.

TonyeBarcanista:

In 2011 Nigerians filed behind GEJ because they thought he was the Messiah and rejected Buhari who they saw as a problem. But 4 years later, same Buhari was perceived as the Messiah by majority and Jonathan was rejected by some of the people that stood for him, simply because they wanted Change and believe Buhari will offer it.

Now Atiku is on the lips of many, not because Atiku is a Messiah but simply because some of these people believe he has the magic wand to fix things (rightly or wrongly).

In democracies, people seek for alternative when there is perceived failure by the incumbent.

As for my piece, they remain valid until I decide otherwise. I'm not on Atiku payroll so I have my liberty to opinion as I deem fit...

Meanwhile, it will not stop me from supporting Atiku AGAINST Buhari in the future if need be

TonyeBarcanista:

The Article was aptly written and highly researched, but it isn't a justification for the continuous stay of Buhari and APC.

In 2014 I stated that "It is an indictment on Goodluck Jonathan that Nigerians will be looking up to General Muhammadu Buhari", and now I can confidently state that,

"It is an indictment on President Muhammadu Buhari for Nigerians to be looking up to Atiku Abubakar to rescue them from his grip".

Trust me, Atiku name would never have appeared on our political space if BUHARI had performed...

In fact, Nigerians would have been looking for a much younger successor

TonyeBarcanista:

In 2011 Nigerians filed behind GEJ because they thought he was the Messiah and rejected Buhari who they saw as a problem. But 4 years later, same Buhari was perceived as the Messiah by majority and Jonathan was rejected by some of the people that stood for him, simply because they wanted Change and believe Buhari will offer it.

Now Atiku is on the lips of many, not because Atiku is a Messiah but simply because some of these people believe he has the magic wand to fix things (rightly or wrongly).

In democracies, people seek for alternative when there is perceived failure by the incumbent.

As for my piece, they remain valid until I decide otherwise. I'm not on Atiku payroll so I have my liberty to opinion as I deem fit...

Meanwhile, it will not stop me from supporting Atiku AGAINST Buhari in the future if need be

NgeneUkwenu:




Atiku Can Never Win Any Election In Nigeria...

Then on your well researched article, you mean it is valid until you decide otherwise? I give up on you!

Wishing success in flip flop support for failures!

Correction:' Atiku is only on the lips of IPOB Miscreants..

NgeneUkwenu:
TonyBarcanista Do you still hold the same view about ATIKU?

TonyeBarcanista:

The article is well researched and highly valid...

However, it is my support for Atiku 2019 that will be determined by me if I'm convinced that it is in the best interest of Nigeria, PDP and myself (I have my interest though not selfish).

For now, I am NOT Atiku's supporter yet...


Abeg free IPOB small... Make we focus on Nigeria!!!

NgeneUkwenu:


See, as your struggling hard to disown your article and trying without success to find justification for supporting a man you called a Failed politician, some months ago...

TonyeBarcanista:

The Article was aptly written and highly researched, but it isn't a justification for the continuous stay of Buhari and APC.

In 2014 I stated that "It is an indictment on Goodluck Jonathan that Nigerians will be looking up to General Muhammadu Buhari", and now I can confidently state that,

"It is an indictment on President Muhammadu Buhari for Nigerians to be looking up to Atiku Abubakar to rescue them from his grip".

Trust me, Atiku name would never have appeared on our political space if BUHARI had performed...

In fact, Nigerians would have been looking for a much younger successor

NgeneUkwenu:
Four Valid Reasons Nigeria Cannot Afford To Have Atiku In Aso Rock In 2019 By Tonybarcanista



I have been observing the recent moves by a former Vice President of Nigeria Alhaji Atiku Abubakar, who is also a veteran aspirant for the office of the President. Atiku Abubakar has suddenly shifted from his subtle campaign for President to what seem to be like an almost direct campaign for the number one seat in the country. In the Social media, some sycophantic groups and individual with inspiration from their stomach have been making noise by endorsing the Turaki Adamawa-perhaps, with expectation of gratification “when the time comes”.

While I am not against Alhaji Atiku Abubakar to exercise his right to aspire for the office of the President in 2019 or any office in Nigeria, I have the responsibility as a young man, a patriot and a youth leader in my own right to enlighten Nigerians and eligible voters about Alhaji Atiku Abubakar’s candidacy (just like I would to any other aspirant for the office).

I shall give some reasons why Alhaji Atiku Abubakar is unfit to occupy the office he is aspiring for;

1. Lack of Integrity:

During the period when he was the Vice President of the country, Atiku was appointed to chair the Petroleum Technology Development Fund by the President, Chief Olusegun Obasanjo. As Chairman of Petroleum Training Development Fund(PTDF), Atiku lodged over $30million and $164 in Trans International Bank and Equatorial Trust Bank respectively from the account of PTDF according to EFCC’s forensive indictment in 2006. In fact, ‘loans’ that yielded interest as high as 15% to the banks were collected from the said banks by Atiku and his proteges AFTER PTDF millions of dollars has been lodged with the illegal account. It was all business! When the deal was busted in 2006, Atiku simply said that he ‘kept the monies for safe-keeping’ and even claimed that he deserves commendation. He brought back the PTDF “capital” that he put in private account and benefited hugely from it.

Atiku Abubakar was indicted by EFCC, Senate, and a Presidential Committee. He is yet to clear his name. As usual, a court that he went to never discussed whether he was innocent or guilty, but simply said the FG Committee lacks power to investigate and indict Atiku Abubakar because they weren’t courts.

You may look these for reference.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6402241.stm
www.saharareporters.com/2006/09/24/objatiku-scandal-what-efcc-failed-disclose-thenewssaharareporters
www.saharareporters.com/2007/02/28/breaking-news-ptdf-scandal-senate-indicts-obj-atiku-impeachment-motion-looms

It is a shame that we are in a country where we forget easily. Otherwise, how could sane Nigerians be asking for Atiku’s Presidency when Nigerians in unison were asking for him to come out clean as for back as 2006.

Apart from the PTDF, Nigerians are yet to understand how Alhaji Atiku Abubakar from a humble background became an extraordinary billionaire despite the fact that most of his productive adult life was spent in the Nigeria Custom Service.

There is also an indictment on Atiku in the USA, I am yet to see him take up the challenge to take a trip to the United States as requested by exPresident Olusegun Obasanjo in 2014.

2. Tribal Supremacism:

One of the challenge of President Buhari’s administration is that he is more aligned with his brothers in the north than with the rest of the country, though Buhari has never hidden where is primary loyalty lies (his north). While many think Atiku is detribalised (we can only be patriotic and not detribalised anyway), the bare truth is that Atiku is a northern supremacist that believe that his northerners should always align with their own. Unlike Buhari, Atiku is pretentious about his- but his sin shall find him out.

In 2010, in their bid to stop Goodluck Jonathan from seeking the ticket of PDP in the 2011 Presidential election, Atiku Abubakar, Aliyu Gusau, Gen IBB and Bukola Saraki(now Senate President) all submitted themselves to Adamu Ciroma led Northern Political Leaders Forum to come up with a a consensus NORTHERN candidate to upstage Southern Goodluck Jonathan. Atiku was eventually chosen as the eventual “northern candidate” over Saraki, who wasn’t considered “northern enough” by the Ciroma led Forum. Atiku led a campaign in the north that he christened “Naka Sai Naka” meaning “Northerners go for your own”.

The record is there for all to see http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-12193681

3. Insincerity And Deception:

Atiku is a very wealthy man no doubt, but of late we have seen a picture of him drinking sachet water aka pure water. When did Atiku start drinking such? Who is he trying to deceive? We won’t forget the N40 sacthet Milo/tea gimmicks that the Buhari campaign employed to deceive gullible Nigerians into believing that he was a “poor man”. We won’t forget the “akara” frying stunt of Mrs Aisha Buhari during the electioneering period in 2015. We should realise that when politicians are desperate, they take to any act just to impress and deceiving the gullible into giving them their votes. #NeverAgain should we be falling for such. It amounts to deception in the part of the elite to continue to use such gimmicks.

Also, Atiku has been making case for federalism and stuffs, but in ALL his years in Aso Rock as VeePee, he never initiated nor suggested such. In fact, Atiku was a very powerful VeePee between 1999 and 2003, as he was in charge of home-front while Obasanjo was travelling the world, yet he never thought of any pro-Federalism/restructuring policy. It is true that he fought against the third term agenda of Obasanjo, but we all know that he did it so that he can be able to succeed the president in 2007- he didn’t do it for Nigeria.

4. What Does He Have To Offer That He Can’t Suggest To Incumbents?

Atiku is part of the political system in Nigeria. In 1993 he ran for President, but lost to MKO Abiola in the Social Democratic Party primary election. In 2007, he ran for Presidency under Action Congress, but lost to Umaru Yaradua of PDP, and coming behing ANPP’s General Buhari. In 2011 he ran for Presidency and lost to Jonathan in the contest for PDP ticket. In 2014, he ran again but lost to Muhammadu Buhari in the APC primary, coming behind second placed Rabiu Kwankwaso. Now he is eyeing 2019! What is Atiku looking for after serving as Vice President for eight years? What did he forget in the villa that he wants to go back to get?

Atiku is already 70, he will be 73 in 2019, he is not an outsider of the system (like the American Trump), what does he have to offer that he couldn’t offer as VeePee? What stops him from sharing his “developmental” ideas to the incumbents since 1999 (considering that he was always in the incumbent parties)? What stops Alhaji Atiku from grooming younger, smarter and intelligent politician for the plum job?

Like I said earlier in my first paragraph, I am not against the right of Atiku to seek office, but I am against the idea of him becoming President. Nigeria cannot afford to continue to rotate failures and grannies. We need generational shift in leadership, we need to retire the system elite and bring him visionaries in 2019.

Nigeria has to be great for our own good, and we must make it great!

chibuzorAbia:


I am speechless and very painfully disappointed. Very disappointed. You have just lost your deposit with me.

TonyeBarcanista:

There is NO perfect human anywhere in the world... We all have our faults.

Political contest is about who is better in service delivery between people that are interested in the office. It isn't something between Saint and Angel...

Remember that Buhari was accepted in 2015 simply because he was perceived to be better than former incumbent Goodluck Jonathan as at that time but prior to that, specifically in 2011, he was rejected in favor of same Jonathan.

People clamouring for Atiku are not doing it because they see messianic status in Atiku but because of the belief/perception that he will be better than what we have at present. Does that erode some of the perception they may have on Atiku? ABSOLUTELY NO!

In fact, whether or not I support Atiku in the future, it will/may not change some fundamental perception I have of him as penned in that Article except I feel convinced otherwise.

TonyeBarcanista:

The article is well researched and highly valid...

However, it is my support for Atiku 2019 that will be determined by me if I'm convinced that it is in the best interest of Nigeria, PDP and myself (I have my interest though not selfish).

For now, I am NOT Atiku's supporter yet...


Abeg free IPOB small... Make we focus on Nigeria!!!