mpowa:

He's sowing a destructive seed for himself and I pray God have mercy on his soul. If you want to get popular it's not God you'll messing with.

funny enough, most of you ignorant people don’t know you are the ones messing with the instructions of God and the Bible, someone is out there correcting you and your wrong misguided doctrines with no scriptural foundation, instead of you to go do a proper research , you will not

Daddy freeze or baby poo this is stupidity taking too far .

MhizzAJ:
Freeze doesn't ever get tired of talking

he should try it with Muslims.

mecc:
I think your crossing your limits Now.they call you daddy but a little baby is becoming more sensible than you now, The way you think like this I wonder how your children will reasoning like.
God will soon freeze your mouth.[color=#000099][/color]

Why?

Why do Christians use the toilet to take a sh*t. The Bible never recorded Jesus doing that.

This Freeze guy is beginning to venture towards the ridiculous. After the events of Jesus birth the Bible doesn't say anything about him until he was 12 years old at the temple with his parents. And after that nothing is recorded until he is 30 and comes to be baptized by John. Does that mean he didn't exist or have a life in those periods?

Jesus practiced the Jewish feast of Passover and never abolished it. He partook in many Jewish customs. In fact, Jesus never mentioned the word Christianity and neither did his disciples.

What religion does Freeze practice?

Christ birth is the greatest thing to happen to humanity whether you believe in him or not. So its commemoration is worthwhile just like the Jews chanted as he rode to Jerusalem. That even his apostles forbidded it, but the lord himself said if they should keep silent the stones will cry out. In the same vein, is Christmas if not commorated, nature itself will cry out. Go out my friend and celebrate his advent, the Lord is born to save mankind.

This freez is just looking for cheap popularity. Is it really because Christianity does not believe in violence. He should try this rubish with the moslims and see what will happen to him.

Freeze am a fan of ur freethesheepie movement but I take God beg you, no near my Christmas atall!

WebSurfer:

funny enough, most of you ignorant people don’t know you are the ones messing with the instructions of God and the Bible, someone is out there correcting you and your wrong misguided doctrines with no scriptural foundation, instead of you to go do a proper research , you will not

If some of you would stop trying to be more righteous than God. Then you would see the good motive that led the early believers to replace what was an ungodly celebration with one centered around Christ. They were winning souls for Christ by helping unbelivers replace a bad habit with a good one. If not for them and their sacrifices, some of those criticizing such celebrations today would never have even heard of Jesus.

Besides, how does anyone's celebration affect Freeze or you? Let people be.

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Pertinent question indeed! Christmas is from mystery Babylon and do you know what Babylon represent? Religion without righteousness. The best way to celebrate Christ is by accepting Him as your personal Lord and Saviour.

Olifiz:
The Truth About Christmas

DO YOU care about spiritual truth? If so, then perhaps you have asked these questions: (1) Was Jesus actually born on December 25? (2) Who were the “wise men,” and were they really three in number? (3) What sort of “star” led them to Jesus? (4) What does Santa Claus have to do with Jesus and his birth? (5) How does God view the Christmas custom of giving gifts or, to be more precise, exchanging gifts?

Let us now consider these questions in the light of the Bible and historical facts.

(1) Was Jesus Born on December 25?

The custom: According to tradition, Jesus’ birth took place on December 25 and is celebrated on that date. “Christmas,” says the Encyclopedia of Religion, means “‘Christ’s Mass,’ that is, the mass celebrating the feast of Christ’s nativity,” or birth.

Its roots: “The establishment of December 25 evolved not from biblical precedent,” says The Christmas Encyclopedia, “but from pagan Roman festivals held at year’s end,” about the time of the winter solstice in the Northern Hemisphere. Those festivals included the Saturnalia, in honor of Saturn, god of agriculture, “and the combined festivals of two sun gods, the Roman Sol and the Persian Mithra,” says the same encyclopedia. Both birthdays were celebrated on December 25, the winter solstice according to the Julian calendar.

Those pagan festivals began to be “Christianized” in the year 350, when Pope Julius I declared December 25 to be Christ’s birthday. “The Nativity gradually absorbed or supplanted all other solstice rites,” says the Encyclopedia of Religion. “Solar imagery came increasingly to be used to portray the risen Christ (who was also called Sol Invictus), and the old solar disk . . . became the halo of Christian saints.”

What the Bible says: The Bible does not give Jesus’ birth date. But we can safely conclude that he was not born on December 25. How so? The Bible tells us that when Jesus was born, shepherds were “living out of doors” tending their flocks at night in the vicinity of Bethlehem. (Luke 2:cool The cold, rainy season usually began in October, and shepherds—especially in the colder highlands, such as those around Bethlehem—brought their sheep into protected shelters at night. The coldest weather, sometimes accompanied by snow, occurred in December.*

Significantly, the early Christians, many of whom had accompanied Jesus in his ministry, never celebrated his birth on any date. Rather, in harmony with his command, they commemorated only his death. (Luke 22:17-20; 1 Corinthians 11:23-26) Still, some may say, ‘Does the pagan connection really matter?’ The answer? It does to God. “The true worshipers will worship the Father with spirit and truth,” said Jesus Christ.—John 4:23.

(2) The “Wise Men”—How Many? Who Were They?

The custom: Guided by a “star” from the east, three “wise men” are portrayed as presenting gifts to Jesus in a manger in a stable. Sometimes shepherds are also shown as being present.

Its roots: Aside from the brief account in the Bible, “everything written about the Wise Men stems principally from legend,” says The Christmas Encyclopedia.

What the Bible says: The Bible does not say how many “wise men” visited Jesus. There may have been two, or there may have been three, four, or more. Although termed “wise men” in some Bible translations, the original-language word is magoi, which means astrologers or sorcerers—professions that the Bible says are “detestable to Jehovah.” (Deuteronomy 18:10-12) By virtue of their long journey from the East, the astrologers did not arrive in time to visit Jesus in the stable. Rather, after perhaps months of travel, they “went into the house” where Jesus was staying. There they saw “the young child with Mary its mother.”—Matthew 2:11.

(3) What Sort of Star Led the Astrologers?

Clues are provided by what the star actually did. For one thing, it did not lead the men directly to Bethlehem, but to Jerusalem, where their inquiries about Jesus reached the ears of King Herod. Herod then “secretly summoned the astrologers,” who told him about the newborn “king of the Jews.” Herod then said: “Make a careful search for the young child, and when you have found it report back to me.” Herod’s interest in Jesus, however, was anything but noble. Rather, this proud and ruthless ruler was resolved to put Jesus to death!—Matthew 2:1-8, 16.

Interestingly, the “star” now led the astrologers south to Bethlehem. There “it came to a stop” above the house where Jesus was.—Matthew 2:9, 10.

Clearly this was no ordinary star! And why would God, who had used angels to inform humble shepherds of Jesus’ birth, now employ a star to guide pagan astrologers—first to Jesus’ enemy and then to the child himself? The only reasonable conclusion is that the star was a sinister device of Satan, who is capable of such manifestations. (2 Thessalonians 2:9, 10) Ironically, an ornament called the star of Bethlehem is usually seen at the very top of the Christmas tree.

(4) What Does Santa Claus Have to Do With Jesus and His Birth?

The custom: In many lands, Santa Claus is viewed as the one who brings children gifts.* Children often write to Santa, asking for presents, which, according to tradition, elves help him to make at his North Pole headquarters.

Its roots: According to the popular view, the Santa Claus myth owes its origin to Saint Nicholas, Archbishop of Myra in Asia Minor, now Turkey. “Virtually everything written about St. Nicholas is based on legends,” says The Christmas Encyclopedia. The designation “Santa Claus” may owe its origin to the word Sinterklaas, a corruption of the Dutch terms for “Saint Nicholas.” Historically and Biblically, Santa Claus has nothing in common with Jesus Christ.

What the Bible says: “Now that you have put away falsehood, speak truth each one of you with his neighbor.” Our closest ‘neighbors’ are our family members. (Ephesians 4:25) The Bible also says that we should “love truth,” “speaking the truth in [our] heart.” (Zechariah 8:19; Psalm 15:2) True, telling children that Santa (or the Christ child) is the bearer of presents at Christmas may seem to be innocent fun, but is it right or wise to deceive little children, even if one’s intentions are not bad? Do you not find it ironic that an occasion that is supposedly meant to honor Jesus becomes a time to deceive children?

(5) How Does God View Christmas Gift-Giving and Merrymaking?

The custom: Christmas giving is unusual in that it largely involves an exchange of gifts, and the Christmas season is marked by partying, feasting, and drinking.

Its roots: Ancient Roman Saturnalian festivities began on December 17 and concluded on the 24th, when gifts were exchanged. Homes and streets were noisy with banqueting, heavy drinking, and riotous behavior. The Saturnalia was followed by an event celebrating the first day of January. This was also observed by a festival, usually lasting about three days. The Saturnalia and the first day of January likely formed one festive occasion.

What the Bible says: Joy and generosity characterize true worship. “Be joyful, you righteous ones; and cry out joyfully,” the Bible says. (Psalm 32:11) Such joy is often associated with generosity. (Proverbs 11:25) “There is more happiness in giving than there is in receiving,” said Jesus Christ. (Acts 20:35) He also said: “Practice giving,” or make it a regular part of your life.—Luke 6:38.

Such giving has little in common with ritualized giving or giving that is compelled, perhaps by social custom. Describing the true spirit of generosity, the Bible states: “Each person should give as he has decided for himself; there should be no reluctance, no sense of compulsion; God loves a cheerful giver.” (2 Corinthians 9:7, The New English Bible) Those who heed these excellent Bible principles give because their generous heart impels them to do so, which can be at any time of the year. To be sure, this kind of giving has God’s blessing, and it is never burdensome.

A Counterfeit!

When examined in the light of the Bible, virtually every facet of Christmas is either pagan in origin or a distortion of the Bible accounts. Hence, Christmas customs are Christian in name only. How did this come about? Centuries after the death of Christ, many false teachers arose, just as the Bible had foretold. (2 Timothy 4:3, 4) Those unprincipled men were more interested in making Christianity fashionable to the pagan masses than they were in teaching truth. Hence, they gradually adopted popular pagan religious festivals and labeled them “Christian.”

Such “false teachers,” the Bible warned, “will exploit you with counterfeit words. But as for them, the judgment from of old is not moving slowly, and the destruction of them is not slumbering.” (2 Peter 2:1-3)


SOW WEEDS, REAP WEEDS

At one time, church authorities fought “tooth and nail against [the] relics of heathenism,” says the book Christmas Customs and Traditions—Their History and Significance. But in time, church leaders became more eager to fill pews than teach truth. Hence, they began to “wink at” those pagan practices. Later they embraced them.

‘What you sow you reap,’ the Bible says. (Galatians 6:7) After sowing their fields with the seeds of paganism, the churches should not be surprised that “weeds” proliferate. A celebration allegedly honoring the birth of Jesus becomes an excuse for drunkenness and revelry, the shopping mall becomes more popular than the church, families go deeply into debt buying presents, and children confuse myth with reality and Santa Claus with Jesus Christ. Yes, for good reason, God said: “Quit touching the unclean thing.”—2 Corinthians 6:17.

Let me add something quite similar of which those who give in to the "Christmas celebration" can understand.

While Moses was up on the mountain receiving God’s laws, the people were getting anxious down on the plain. Moses spent forty days (Exodus 24:18) up on the mountain with God, and by the end of that time, the people were beginning to think Moses had died or left them. The people urged Aaron, their temporary leader, to make gods for them to follow. Since they were accustomed to having visual representations of gods, this was the natural (but sinful) result of their thinking. Aaron took their gold earrings, which they had brought from Egypt, and melted them down to make a golden idol. The idol he crafted for them was a calf, but Aaron maintained the name of the Lord in connection with it (Exodus 32:5). He was merging the pagan practices they were familiar with and the worship of the God they were just beginning to be re-acquainted with. Aaron called the people together and told them that the golden calf was the god who delivered them from Egypt. The people offered sacrifices and then engaged in pagan rituals, including orgies (Exodus 32:25) to worship this new god.

Why did Aaron do this? Scripture doesn’t give us the full answer, but we can put certain clues together and get a fairly good picture. First, the people’s long familiarity with idol worship would incline them to follow that method in the absence of clear direction otherwise. It is likely that the people had not yet received the commands against idol worship, since Moses was yet to come down with the tablets of the law. Second, they were already in the habit of merging their beliefs with those of the people around them, a practice that would continue to plague them throughout the kingdom years. Third, Aaron was faced with an unruly crowd that placed a demand on him. The solution of making an idol and calling it by God's name seemed fairly reasonable.

Why did he choose a calf/bull? His lame excuse to Moses—“It just came out of the fire like this!” Exodus 32:24)—was just a feeble attempt to dodge blame. He fashioned it with a graving tool (Exodus 32:4) and took great care to form it that way. Some have tried to show that the bull represented one of the gods of Egypt, but that doesn’t fit the text, because Aaron called a feast to the Lord (Yahweh) and said that it was the god(s) which brought them out of the land of Egypt. The bull was a symbol of strength and fertility, and the people were already familiar with bull gods from Egypt. Bulls were also typical animals of sacrifice, so to use their image as a symbol of the god being worshiped was a natural connection. Aaron’s bull was a mixture of the powerful God who delivered the people through mighty works and the pagan methods of worship that were borrowed from the people around them.

Even though there are reasonable explanations for why Aaron and the people began to worship the golden calf, those explanations do not excuse the sin. God certainly held the people accountable for their corruption (Exodus 32:7–10) and was ready to destroy them for their sin. Moses’ personal intercession on behalf of his people saved them. Moses indicated that Aaron at least should have known that his actions were sinful (Exodus 32:21) and didn’t let him off the hook. As with any other sin, the punishment is death, and the only proper response is repentance. Moses called for those who were on the Lord’s side to come stand with him (Exodus 32:26). The Levites stood with him and were commanded to go through the camp and kill anyone who persisted in the idolatry. Three thousand men were killed that day.

The above is all about religious syncretism (blending religious practices).
As Christians we should not mix our beliefs with that of the world (we are not a part of the world) no matter how sweet our reason may sound. We do not borrow ideas like we have some churches do; ritualistic repetition of prayers, masquerades in religious ceremonies etc.

adetayo234:


I think it is you that should keep quiet. What he said and had been saying may not be the absolute truth, but they aren't far from the truth. Is it recorded in the Bible that you should celebrate Jesus' birthday? Give me one point in the scriptures that support what you are celebrating today. I'm sure you can't, because there is none.

You are so used to the status quo that you detest anyone that tells you anything different from that, even if your cherished status quo can't be proved by the scriptures.

Freeze is not attacking Christians. He's attacking doctrines in Christianity that have no basis in the scriptures. And this is what every true Christian should do, except if the scripture isn't your standard anymore.

Just one question. Did Jesus write one single line in these "scriptures?" Is there a single book in the Bible written by Jesus? Does the Bible record everything Jesus ever did? Where is the report of his life between his birth and age 12; and between age 13-29?

Oops, that's more than one question. Would be nice if you can answer them all though.

Daddy freeze is an antichrist...

hatchy:
I strongly believe now that something is absolutely wrong with this man.

Why the attack on Christianity always?

You have constituted so much nuisance to everyone such that you no longer make any sense whenever you talk.

Keep quiet if you have nothing to say and stop using Christians and the faith for cheap popularity.

For your information he (daddy freeze) is a Christian, how is it that your brain doesn't realize that he only asked a question, why do you celebrate Christmas when Jesus Christ never did?

hatchy:
I strongly believe now that something is absolutely wrong with this man.

Why the attack on Christianity always?

You have constituted so much nuisance to everyone such that you no longer make any sense whenever you talk.

Keep quiet if you have nothing to say and stop using Christians and the faith for cheap popularity.

For your information he (daddy freeze) is a Christian, how is it that your brain doesn't realize that he only asked a question, why do you celebrate Christmas when Jesus Christ never did?

dabossman:


Just one question. Did Jesus write one single line in these "scriptures?" Is there a single book in the Bible written by Jesus? Does the Bible record everything Jesus ever did? Where is the report of his life between his birth and age 12; and between age 13-29?

Oops, that's more than one question. Would be nice if you can answer them all though.

Are you saying Christianity is sham! I mean Jesus Christ is the basis for christian beliefs right, he is God to Christians.

millionboi2:
he should try it with Muslims.

No need to bring Muslims and Islam into this topic. He asked a simple question and no single Christian is sensible enough to reply. Are you all that dumb?

Habyz:

No need to bring Muslims and Islam into this topic. He asked a simple question and no single Christian is sensible enough to reply. Are you all that dumb?

You and freez should try it with Muslims na.


U will definitely get an answer.

Fridge! Why do you celebrate your birthday if your ancestors never did? Make u kontinuo... But last last ya brain needs recycling..

dabossman:
Why do Christians use the toilet to take a sh*t. The Bible never recorded Jesus doing that.

This Freeze guy is beginning to venture towards the ridiculous. After the events of Jesus birth the Bible doesn't say anything about him until he was 12 years old at the temple with his parents. And after that nothing is recorded until he is 30 and comes to be baptized by John. Does that mean he didn't exist or have a life in those periods?

Jesus practiced the Jewish feast of Passover and never abolished it. He partook in many Jewish customs. In fact, Jesus never mentioned the word Christianity and neither did his disciples.

What religion does Freeze practice?

What are you saying? If Jesus never utterd the word Christianity or Christian why do you use it to distinguish yourself? You are indirectly calling yourself and indeed your kind hypocrites.
When Jesus was crucified on the cross a sentence was written on the cross, if the Jews didn't follow him why was it written?

Ireboya:
The dude is intelligent

...from behind.

dabossman:


Just one question. Did Jesus write one single line in these "scriptures?" Is there a single book in the Bible written by Jesus? Does the Bible record everything Jesus ever did? Where is the report of his life between his birth and age 12; and between age 13-29?

Oops, that's more than one question. Would be nice if you can answer them all though.

So are you saying we can practice anything not written in the scriptures and then cover up by saying it could have happened when Jesus was between the ages of 1 and 33?

And please be careful about that your first question, lest you commit heresy just because you want to win an argument.

Maybe I should remind you of 2Tim 3:16-17 that said " All scriptures are written by inspiration of God and profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness..."

So if you say the words of the scriptures can be sidelined because Jesus didn't write a word in the Bible, then one needs to question your own version of Christianity

Daddy freeze should just shut up. Because he has mouth and tongue is not a criteria to try to draw souls to himself. Nonsense

adetayo234:


So are you saying we can practice anything not written in the scriptures and then cover up by saying it could have happened when Jesus was between the ages of 1 and 33?

And please be careful about that your first question, lest you commit heresy just because you want to win an argument.

Maybe I should remind you of 2Tim 3:16-17 that said " All scriptures are written by inspiration of God and profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness..."

So if you say the words of the scriptures can be sidelined because Jesus didn't write a word in the Bible, then one needs to question your own version of Christianity

No. I am saying open your eyes and heart and understand the motives that led to early Christians creating a celebration called Christmas to commemorate the birth of Jesus.

Many early Christians gave their lives to propagate the Christianity you and I profess today. It is a disservice to them for us who are having it easy now to disparage actions they took to eradicate idolatry and inculcate Christ centered living into the souls they won for Christ.

Yes Christmas day wasn't the day Christ was born, neither did he ask anyone to celebrate it. But what was the motive behind its initial introduction? It was to save souls, to preach Christ and eradicate idolatry.

If we want to argue about Christianity solely on what is written in the Bible, then even our entire Christian faith would be torn to shreds by people like Freeze. Jesus never preached a religion called Christianity did he?

Habyz:

For your information he (daddy freeze) is a Christian, how is it that your brain doesn't realize that he only asked a question, why do you celebrate Christmas when Jesus Christ never did?

Why do you celebrate your own birthday

This same Freeze that celebrated this same Christmas season with his family? Ok.
I just hope he was only thinking out loud and not trying to spark a debate when he knows what side he’s truly on.

He has a right to ask the question but to push it further would put him in the same seat of hypocrisy he’s accusing pastors of occupying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2bvrh4VBP4

MY CANDID, GOLDEN ADVICE TO CHRISTIANS OUT THERE

The Holy Bible, is 1st historical, inspirational, then spiritual. If you take your bible like a book that has just stories that never happened in reality, then youre a foolish christian. This argument has absolute solution in the gospels. When you discover it, you may eventually arrive at a conclusion that all Christ's action7 were pre-scripted!! asif he knew what people were capable of doing with all his words, actions.

So please, ensure you hug your bible come 2018. Only then will you be a true defender of the faith, just like Josh Mcdowell did at the islamic debate decades ago.

What's wrong with this guy, are u a Christian or not! Stop disturbing our conscience with your continuous controversial post. Nonsense

Hmmm

WebSurfer:

funny enough, most of you ignorant people don’t know you are the ones messing with the instructions of God and the Bible, someone is out there correcting you and your wrong misguided doctrines with no scriptural foundation, instead of you to go do a proper research , you will not

What correction is he making? What nonsense research?... It is people who don't know their left from right that will be running around because one lost soul gave them assignments, those who know their God will not be moved. When he's done looking for relevance, hope it saves his soul.

dabossman:


No. I am saying open your eyes and heart and understand the motives that led to early Christians creating a celebration called Christmas to commemorate the birth of Jesus.

Many early Christians gave their lives to propagate the Christianity you and I profess today. It is a disservice to them for us who are having it easy now to disparage actions they took to eradicate idolatry and inculcate Christ centered living into the souls they won for Christ.

Yes Christmas day wasn't the day Christ was born, neither did he ask anyone to celebrate it. But what was the motive behind its initial introduction? It was to save souls, to preach Christ and eradicate idolatry.

If we want to argue about Christianity solely on what is written in the Bible, then even our entire Christian faith would be torn to shreds by people like Freeze. Jesus never preached a religion called Christianity did he?

Which "early Christians create Christmas?" Peter the rock, John the beloved, Paul of Tarsus, or Timothy the grandson of Eunice? Or which early Christians are you referring to?