HeyCorleone:
What exactly is up for discussion?!

frosbel2:


Though Jesus was a real figure, almost 85% of what people preach/teach about him are either untrue or mixed with untruths and lack credibility.

The reason for the proliferation of churches all over Nigeria is not because there is a zeal for the things of God or for righteousness or to love one's neighbour as themselves, the main reason is MONEY. There is big MONEY to be made, it is a franchise business just like MacDonalds, KFC and the likes.

Deeper life, RCCG, Christ Embassy and others are mostly franchises, collecting money from people, keeping some for the local church and sending the majority to the headquarters to be used for empire building and personal enrichment of the so-called man of God.

Jesus is big business in Nigeria, he is not a myth. Every Sunday the sheeple rush to these Jesus business franchises to 'buy' fake miracles, fake prophecies, fake healings and false promises from the almighty pastor.

frosbel2:


Though Jesus was a real figure, almost 85% of what people preach/teach about him are either untrue or mixed with untruths and lack credibility.

The reason for the proliferation of churches all over Nigeria is not because there is a zeal for the things of God or for righteousness or to love one's neighbour as themselves, the main reason is MONEY. There is big MONEY to be made, it is a franchise business just like MacDonalds, KFC and the likes.

Deeper life, RCCG, Christ Embassy and others are mostly franchises, collecting money from people, keeping some for the local church and sending the majority to the headquarters to be used for empire building and personal enrichment of the so-called man of God.

Jesus is big business in Nigeria, he is not a myth. Every Sunday the sheeple rush to these Jesus business franchises to 'buy' fake miracles, fake prophecies, fake healings and false promises from the almighty pastor.

felixomor:


How do u know Jesus was real?

frosbel2:


Though Jesus was a real figure, almost 85% of what people preach/teach about him are either untrue or mixed with untruths and lack credibility.

The reason for the proliferation of churches all over Nigeria is not because there is a zeal for the things of God or for righteousness or to love one's neighbour as themselves, the main reason is MONEY. There is big MONEY to be made, it is a franchise business just like MacDonalds, KFC and the likes.

Deeper life, RCCG, Christ Embassy and others are mostly franchises, collecting money from people, keeping some for the local church and sending the majority to the headquarters to be used for empire building and personal enrichment of the so-called man of God.

Jesus is big business in Nigeria, he is not a myth. Every Sunday the sheeple rush to these Jesus business franchises to 'buy' fake miracles, fake prophecies, fake healings and false promises from the almighty pastor.

asuustrike2009:

Where did you get this false statistics from?

johnydon22:


Because he is a Christian

ifenes:
How did you know Jesus wasn’t a myth ? The fact that you still believe in the bible god doesn’t make you different from the religion you are bashing. What exactly is Jesus to you ? You don’t have to reply, but seek for knowledge and not beliefs. Jesus is the European version of the God you are.

frosbel2:


I am not a Christian!

johnydon22:


Frosbel is no longer a Christian... Hallelujah

Welcome welcome

frosbel2:


But I am not an atheist

Let' just say I am a deist -sort of.

frosbel2:


False ?? You must be living in the la la land.

frosbel2:


I am not a Christian!

johnydon22:


You are getting there gradually.. That's exactly how the journey goes.

You'll see

We didn't jump from theism to atheism in one second did we?

Accept it dude, you are bleeped..

Ranchhoddas:
How well we know what a profitable superstition this fable of Christ has been for us and our predecessors-- Pope Leo X.

dalaman:
"What profit has not that fable of Christ brought us!" Pope Leo X.

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FUNNY ENOUGH, CHRISTIANS WILL THINK ITS BLASPHEMY TO EVEN TRY TO IMAGINE OR THINK ABOUT LEO'S STATEMENT.
THEY'RE ALWAYS BLIND AND IRRATIONAL ABOUT EVERYTHING.

dalaman:


Ver true. They'll excuse his statement the way they excuse everything.

BUT WHY THOUGH?

IT WORRIES ME HOW PEOPLE DON'T EVER ATTEMPT TO GIVE RATIONAL THINKING A CHANCE.

THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO SOMETIMES THINK, ABOUT THE EVEN AND THE ODD, BUT DON'T WANNA DEVIATE TOO MUCH BECAUSE THEIR DOCTRINES HAVE INSTILLED UNIMAGINABLE FEARS IN THEM.

WHILE THERE ARE THESE OTHER PEOPLE THAT DON'T BOTHER TO THINK AT ALL. THEY LET THEIR PASTORS THINK FOR THEM, TEACH THEM, AND MAKE BOTH ORDINARY AND IMPORTANT CHOICES FOR THEM.

THEY ARE MY PROBLEM, AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF MY FAMILY MEMBERS ARE JUST LIKE THAT.

SINCE I WAS SMALL, EVERY FAMILY ISSUES ARE BEING SETTLED IN THE PARISH HOUSE.
TO MY MOTHER, THE CATH CHURCH IS THE GREATEST THING ON EARTH, MOST VALUABLE TO GOD HIMSELF, AND THE POPE AND REV FATHERS ARE SUPERNATURAL BEINGS, AND THIS IS AN EDUCATED PERSON.

vaxx:
first of all we must acknowledged that the Jews are a nation of story telling, Jews were the first people to find God in history. They were the first to think in historical terms – of time as an arena of change as opposed to cyclical time in which the seasons rotate, people are born and die, but nothing really changes. Jews were the first people to write history(an account of event) if the account event of Jesus is entirely true , then adam , eve, satan and yahweh etc must also be entirely true, i failed to entirely agree that Jesus account event is entirely true ....it must have been alter or manipulated.....why?

TO verified the truthfulness of an account, it must be determined by these four basic factor : congruence, consistency, coherence, and usefulness.

• A true account is congruent with our experience – meaning, it fits the facts. It is in principle falsifiable, but nothing falsifying it has been found. One way we can infer that our story is congruent with the facts as we experience them is when what we experience is predictable from the story. But truth is always provisional, not an end state. When we discover new facts, we may need to change our story.

• A true account is internally consistent. It has no contradictions within itself, and it fits together elegantly. The principle of consistency (same as the principle of non-contradiction) allows us to infer things consistent with what we already know. An inconsistent story – one that contains contradictions – does not allow us to do this.

• All true account is coherent with everything else we consider true. It confirms, or at least fails to contradict, the rest of our established knowledge, where ‘knowledge’ means beliefs for which we can give rigorous reasons. The physical sciences – physics, chemistry, biology, geology and astronomy – all reinforce each other.

• A true account is useful. It gives us mastery. When we act on the basis of a true story or explanation, our actions are successful. What is true works to organize our thought and our practice, so that we are able to reason with logical rigor to true conclusions and to handle reality effectively. Truth enables us to exert our power, in the sense of our ability to get things done, successfully. It has predictive power, allowing us to make good choices concerning what is likely to happen.(Jon wainwright)


ALL the available account of Jesus event failed to agree with these basic factors


anyway if i must say, Jesus historical account made him the most successful Jews in the entire world , he propagate the gospel not only to his people but also to the Samaritans......he has a follower of about 2 billions on planet earth.,....people hold him in high esteem even more than their own biological parent.

how i wish Africa history is also well propagated , it will have shaped the world

frosbel2:


And how do you know that he was a Myth?

ifenes:


Firstly the story of Jesus being the saviour of the world wasn’t first. There were other saviours before him who shared the same “ light of the world”. Besides it’s only an astrological explanation of the connection between the Sun and the signs of zodiac. A character had to be formed to keep the story in place.

Talk about Jesus being born of a virgin goes along with the Sun being conceived in Virgo,the only female of the zodiac signs, tried to destroy the temple( justice to the human mos-informed psyche)..... the list goes on. All these are astrological knowledge hidden in words.

As a matter of fact the bible is an astrological book only those deep in know can translate. It has nothing to do with Christianity. Why do you think you are allowed to have the bible ? It’s been edited and the real knowledge is hidden. Books that could enlighten the sheeple have been removed and the rest could be used for control. Jesus was never real.

frosbel2:


And there are over 1 billion Hindus , 1.8 billion Muslims and about 500 million Buddhists, so

dalaman:


Frosbel!!. You used to be the KingEbukasBlog of the religion section back in the days. How time changes everything. Interesting.

urahara:


was he that bad?

vaxx:
first of all we must acknowledged that the Jews are a nation of story telling, Jews were the first people to find God in history. They were the first to think in historical terms – of time as an arena of change as opposed to cyclical time in which the seasons rotate, people are born and die, but nothing really changes. Jews were the first people to write history(an account of event) if the account event of Jesus is entirely true , then adam , eve, satan and yahweh etc must also be entirely true, i failed to entirely agree that Jesus account event is entirely true ....it must have been alter or manipulated.....why?

TO verified the truthfulness of an account, it must be determined by these four basic factor : congruence, consistency, coherence, and usefulness.

• A true account is congruent with our experience – meaning, it fits the facts. It is in principle falsifiable, but nothing falsifying it has been found. One way we can infer that our story is congruent with the facts as we experience them is when what we experience is predictable from the story. But truth is always provisional, not an end state. When we discover new facts, we may need to change our story.

• A true account is internally consistent. It has no contradictions within itself, and it fits together elegantly. The principle of consistency (same as the principle of non-contradiction) allows us to infer things consistent with what we already know. An inconsistent story – one that contains contradictions – does not allow us to do this.

• All true account is coherent with everything else we consider true. It confirms, or at least fails to contradict, the rest of our established knowledge, where ‘knowledge’ means beliefs for which we can give rigorous reasons. The physical sciences – physics, chemistry, biology, geology and astronomy – all reinforce each other.

• A true account is useful. It gives us mastery. When we act on the basis of a true story or explanation, our actions are successful. What is true works to organize our thought and our practice, so that we are able to reason with logical rigor to true conclusions and to handle reality effectively. Truth enables us to exert our power, in the sense of our ability to get things done, successfully. It has predictive power, allowing us to make good choices concerning what is likely to happen.(Jon wainwright)


ALL the available account of Jesus event failed to agree with these basic factors


anyway if i must say, Jesus historical account made him the most successful Jews in the entire world , he propagate the gospel not only to his people but also to the Samaritans......he has a follower of about 2 billions on planet earth.,....people hold him in high esteem even more than their own biological parent.

how i wish Africa history is also well propagated , it will have shaped the world

johnydon22:


What do you mean by the Jews were the first to find God in history, please explain better.

p.s: No long answer, make it as short as possible.