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The North Does Not Recognise Jonathan As Ag President – Rimi by lagbaja(m): 3:40pm On Apr 05, 2010
Extract of Rimi's last interview

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2010/02/28/the-north-does-not-recognise-jonathan-as-ag-president-rimi/

By Chioma GABRIEL, Deputy Editor
For about three months, President Yar’Adua was absent and remained incommunicado. Several trips made by different groups to see him yielded no results.



The trips to Saudi were not well coordinated. It is only a doctor who could have said the true situation of his health. The delegates obviously did not go through the right channels and the people are no-nonsense people.

They are not like Nigerian authorities and if the delegates did not go through the right channels, there would be no progress. All those delegations could have gone through the Nigerian ambassador who would seek permission from either the Saudi Foreign Minster or the King
This problem has continued to generate problems in Nigeria. We are gearing up for elections but some issues remain unresolved.

Whether the President is back or not, we must hold elections. There is no doubt about that. We have not given up on the President’s health. No, no, no. Far from it. The President is sick and there is no big deal about that because anybody can get sick. Even in Saudi Arabia where the President went for treatment, their leaders had been sick at one point or the other. Even Sharon of Israel has been sick for months and was in coma when elections took place.

But in terms of information management, Nigeria did not handle things very well and that could portend danger.

Dora Akunyili is the Chief Information Officer. She is the one who should tell Nigerians what she knows about what was going on. All these talks all the while about lack of information was not necessary because Nigeria could have gotten in touch with the ambassador in Saudi Arabia who was in constant touch with the President.

So, what’s your opinion on the constitutional provisions and Senate resolution on section 145 of the Constitution?

You see, it is a misnomer to talk of acting President. There is nothing like that in the Nigerian Constitution and the Senate acted illegally by passing a resolution to appoint Jonathan as acting President because the Nigerian Constitution has no provision for such, just as there is no provision for acting Vice President, acting governor or acting deputy governor.

The President and the Vice President are elected on the same ticket. So, automatically, when the President is not there, the Vice President becomes the President and begins to perform the functions of the President. So, it is a superfluous resolution by the Senate to make Jonathan the acting President.

You cannot put somebody in a position which does not exist in the Constitution. And even if that is allowed to sustain, it means the Nigerian Senate or Assembly is amending the Nigeria Constitution unconstitutionally.

The constitution provides ways and methods of amending the Constitution. We have a formality for that and there must be a vote to that effect and two-third of the 36 states of the federation must agree to that, and that means that 24 states of the federation must approve. If that is not done, there is nothing like acting President because the President has no such provisions.

So, under the circumstances, what are you saying about Jonathan?

Goodluck Jonathan should continue to perform the duties of the President until the President is back but not as acting President because the resolution of the Senate is totally unnecessary and uncalled for. Once the President is not there, Jonathan is the President and not the acting President and he doesn’t need any resolution from the Senate for that.

And the Senate in any case has no powers to pass that resolution. and the resolution is not enough. Resolution is just a kind of suggestion, it is not a law.

It is the Doctrine of Necessity that informed the action of the Senate.

It is the doctrine of necessity that enabled Jonathan to be performing the functions of the President. Once, there is a clear provision in the constitution, then, the issue of doctrine of necessity does not arise. You don’t create something that does not exist. You should understand that Goodluck Jonathan is still the Vice President and not acting President because acting president does not exist.

Jonathan is not the president. He is merely performing functions of the president. He is not acting president because that does not exist. He is still the Vice President. If Yar’Adua confirms his inability to continue in office, then , we can be talking of Jonathan as President. He is still the Vice President, not acting President and the Senate cannot make him acting President because it does not exist in our Constitution.

And you cannot say that President Yar’Adua is incapacitated. He is not incapacitated. He has been in hospital, receiving treatment. And that doesn’t mean he is incapacitated. The action of the Senate is wrong. It is unconstitutional. It is illegal and it is needless. If the President is not there, automatically, the Vice President becomes the President. There is no need for any resolution for that as done by the Senate.

You cannot appoint acting President. A President is elected and a Vice President can only succeed a President who is dead or wrote a letter of resignation or cannot perform the functions of his office. And in that case, then, the Vice President will make a nomination to the Senate for a Vice President, when he becomes the President but it is not so in this case because Jonathan is still the Vice President and never acting President because there is nothing like that in our constitution.

There was an argument that not transmitting a letter to the National Assembly before the President traveled is an impeach able offence.

I don’t agree with that. If the President does not want to write a letter, he didn’t have to do it. As the President of Nigeria, he could lead Nigeria from Saudi Arabia because even if he was taking treatment in Saudi, he is still Nigeria’s President. He can sign bills into law from Saudi, he can make appointments and pass to the National Assembly through his advisers. He did not have to be around to do that and he can ask the Vice President to do certain things.

If you look at the Nigerian Constitution regarding the performance of the acting President, you will see that the Constitution makes a provision that the powers of the federation are vested in the President and the President can execute those powers through the Vice President, through his ministers, through his advisers, the civil service and anyhow he deems it fit.

So, the North is not cooperating with Goodluck Jonathan?

That is not true. We had a meeting today (Tuesday) and we expressed support for the Vice President. We had a resolution. You seem to forget that the Vice President was elected on the same ticket as the President. It is the media and the National Assembly that are confusing Nigerians. There is no conflict in this.

It is false to say the North is not cooperating with the Vice President. People should stop creating confusion that does not exist. He was elected on the same ticket with Yar’Adua. So, why belittle him? Why is the media belittling the Vice President that he cannot perform his functions until he becomes acting President?

He doesn’t have to be called acting President to perform duties of the President. So, the media should stop creating confusion. The North supports the Vice President.

You support the Vice President, not the acting President?

There is no such thing as the acting President. The North does not recognise that.

Is the North entertaining fears about 2011 with Jonathan on the saddle? Does the North fear it will not get Presidency 2011 if Jonathan conducts election?

That will not happen. That issue does not arise. We will not cross that bridge before getting there. It’s still some months before the election and President Yar’Adua can comeback anytime.

What if Jonathan becomes substantive President?

Umaru Musa Yar’Adua is alive, not dead. How can Jonathan become substantive President? Or do you want to kill the President?

All these speculations, fears, would only be doused by President Yar’Adua speaking with Nigerians or FEC members and communicating to us. We must see him to douse all the rumours.

You cannot blame the Saudi authorities for not allowing those who went to Saudi from Nigeria to see the President. They didn’t go through the proper channel and the Saudis don’t know who is who. And the Saudi authorities have the right to protect the President of Nigeria taking treatment in their place. Did these delegates go through the right channel? They have to protect the Nigerian President.

The media should stop creating confusion because they know the provisions of the constitution. The Senate gave a wrong resolution which it has no powers to do. There was a court ruling on this. How come nobody is following that or applying that interpretation? The Senate or the National Assembly ought to follow the constitution.

They are not supposed to breach it. Both the Senate and the House of Representatives ought to follow the constitution. They are not supposed to violate it like they did. They are not supposed to create a position which does not exist in the constitution unless there is a constitutional amendment done through the proper channel.

So, the North is loyal to the acting President?

The North cannot recognise the acting President because it does not exist and cannot exist without amendment of the constitution. The elected people have done the wrong thing by making Jonathan acting President and we must acknowledge that. And these are the people who swore with the Bible and the Koran to protect and promote the constitution and yet, they did not comply with that in doing what they did.

They created an acting President that is not in the Constitution. There is nothing like acting President, acting governor or acting local government chairman in our constitution.

When I was the governor of Kano State, on the occasions I traveled out of Kano, I wrote letters to the Secretary to the government to inform the House of my intentions and my deputy took over immediately from there until I returned. It was not the issue here and that is what we are saying. And anyway, Yar” Adua could return anytime to assume his responsibilities.
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Re: The North Does Not Recognise Jonathan As Ag President – Rimi by Nobody: 5:22pm On Apr 05, 2010
yeah no wonder the idiot died over the weekend.
Re: The North Does Not Recognise Jonathan As Ag President – Rimi by auwal87(m): 5:26pm On Apr 05, 2010
lagbaja:

Extract of Rimi's last interview

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2010/02/28/the-north-does-not-recognise-jonathan-as-ag-president-rimi/

So, under the circumstances, what are you saying about Jonathan?

Goodluck Jonathan should continue to perform the duties of the President until the President is back but not as acting President because the resolution of the Senate is totally unnecessary and uncalled for. Once the President is not there, Jonathan is the President and not the acting President and he doesn’t need any resolution from the Senate for that.

Re: The North Does Not Recognise Jonathan As Ag President – Rimi by Kobojunkie: 5:55pm On Apr 05, 2010
The man is wrong. The Constitution is clear on installation of an Acting President by the PERMISSION of the president. From the above it is sort of obvious the man probably knew little of the Nigerian constitution. There is a provision made for Acting president. Section 145, which comes right after 144 details the ONLY situation where that can be applied, and honestly the current install is UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
Re: The North Does Not Recognise Jonathan As Ag President – Rimi by bibiking1(m): 11:04pm On Apr 05, 2010
oh dear! Poor man could not exert his postulation on us before he was whisked away! Anyway, we have heard your point of view dude!!! We would get back to you!!!
Re: The North Does Not Recognise Jonathan As Ag President – Rimi by Nobody: 11:09pm On Apr 05, 2010
bibiking1:

oh dear! Poor man could not exert his postulation on us before he was whisked away! Anyway, we have heard your point of view dude!!! We would get back to you!!!

cheesy cheesy cheesy

will you send him a telegram to the afterlife?
Re: The North Does Not Recognise Jonathan As Ag President – Rimi by oderemo(m): 11:21pm On Apr 05, 2010
yeah no wonder the idiot died over the weekend
lmao. grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
was that interview linked to his death ? grin grin grin lol.
Re: The North Does Not Recognise Jonathan As Ag President – Rimi by bibiking1(m): 12:41am On Apr 06, 2010
davidylan:

cheesy cheesy cheesy

will you send him a telegram to the afterlife?


well i heard nextlife courier services are a bit reliable,,, would give them a try!
Re: The North Does Not Recognise Jonathan As Ag President – Rimi by igbogolo: 12:51am On Apr 06, 2010
Rimi said the North does not recognize Acting president as its not in the constitution.

Can I ask

Is sharia that is recognized in his home state kano, in the constitution? When something does not suit these thieving lunatics, they start playing with peoples intelligence.

Rimi, Abeg Adieu joo. Go and rest. You have spoken. Ehen , we have heard. Matter don finish. Goodnight!

Hiss!
Re: The North Does Not Recognise Jonathan As Ag President – Rimi by AfroCynic: 1:34am On Apr 06, 2010
Kai, you people are wicked. LMAO!
Re: The North Does Not Recognise Jonathan As Ag President – Rimi by hollandis(f): 1:39am On Apr 06, 2010
igbogolo:

Rimi said the North does not recognize Acting president as its not in the constitution.

Can I ask

Is sharia that is recognized in his home state kano, in the constitution? When something does not suit these thieving lunatics, they start playing with peoples intelligence.

Rimi, Abeg Adieu joo. Go and rest. You have spoken. Ehen , we have heard. Matter don finish. Goodnight!

Hiss!
You judge a dead man by what you are made to believe.May God have mercy on you
Re: The North Does Not Recognise Jonathan As Ag President – Rimi by hollandis(f): 1:41am On Apr 06, 2010
davidylan:

yeah no wonder the idiot died over the weekend.
Read between the lines and see if he was really in support of yaradua.Stop unnecessary hatred over a dead man.He deserves some respect
Re: The North Does Not Recognise Jonathan As Ag President – Rimi by hollandis(f): 1:43am On Apr 06, 2010
Kobojunkie:

The man is wrong. The Constitution is clear on installation of an Acting President by the PERMISSION of the president. From the above it is sort of obvious the man probably knew little of the Nigerian constitution. There is a provision made for Acting president. Section 145, which comes right after 144 details the ONLY situation where that can be applied, and honestly the current install is UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
Then why can't the senate or whoever is in charge impeach yaradua? STOP
Re: The North Does Not Recognise Jonathan As Ag President – Rimi by Nigerd(m): 9:35am On Apr 06, 2010
@ topic

the guy did not guide his mouth while living.
though outspoken, but speaks jargon,

May his soul rest in peaceeeeeeeee
Re: The North Does Not Recognise Jonathan As Ag President – Rimi by deb(m): 9:36am On Apr 06, 2010
What does it matter now?
Re: The North Does Not Recognise Jonathan As Ag President – Rimi by hatch: 10:21am On Apr 06, 2010
@ Topic

In as much as i have a lot of respect for late Abubakar Rimi,i felt he made some level of sense in his article however it was quite flawed and full of contradictions . I also believe that his opinions were personal and he could never have spoken on behalf of the entire north.

davidylan:

yeah no wonder the idiot died over the weekend.

You know what davidylan ? You are one pathetic slowpoke that lack an atom of respect for the dead

A man gives his honest opinion about an issue and you dare call him an idiot ? Only a retard like you would make such a comment.
Re: The North Does Not Recognise Jonathan As Ag President – Rimi by Nobody: 10:22am On Apr 06, 2010
Not the problem of Nigeria, but one of the obstacles that must be remove to achieve the resolution of the Nigeria question has been removed.
Re: The North Does Not Recognise Jonathan As Ag President – Rimi by igbogolo: 12:36pm On Apr 06, 2010
You judge a dead man by what you are made to believe.May God have mercy on you
[quote][/quote]

Mr Hollandis,

Please answer me, is Sharia as practiced in Kano, the home state of Abubakar Rimi, in the Constitution of the federal republic of Nigeria And why has Rimi not publicly come out to say that sharia is not in the constitution??
So because he died, I should not say what I feel about my country? What did Abubakar Rimi do for me in his life that I should celebrate him in death? What

And how am i judging him? Can you explain please??
Re: The North Does Not Recognise Jonathan As Ag President – Rimi by tundewoods(m): 12:40pm On Apr 06, 2010
Abubakar Rimi was a indeed a fine gentleman during his life time and probably one of the most unique and sincere politicians Nigeria has ever produced. This was a man that willingly resigned his post as the Governor of Kano state during the second republic.

I think this man atleast deserves some respect.
Re: The North Does Not Recognise Jonathan As Ag President – Rimi by Kobojunkie: 3:13pm On Apr 06, 2010
@Hollandis, try learning to ask of your leaders the right questions. It is CLEAR in the constitution( please take an hour or two of your time to read and study it) that it is possible. Even the courts called for it to happen, did your leaders TRY it, let alone implement it when they were called to do so? NO, they ABSOLUTELY REFUSED to do it. . Rather, they gave you a fix that is not only temporary but ensures the same batch of people continue in power for longer with no interruption and you are here telling me to STOP? Why?

Again, ask the right questions of your leaders rather than accept ignorant talk even if it is from a man who died after the hooey. Stop being afraid to read your own constitution, it is in ENGLISH. We are talking 2 Paragraphs max with STRAIGHT FORWARD Language that it would be very very hard for anyone to TWIST AND TURN to mean anything else.
Re: The North Does Not Recognise Jonathan As Ag President – Rimi by otokx(m): 3:30pm On Apr 06, 2010
What can we say?
Re: The North Does Not Recognise Jonathan As Ag President – Rimi by igbogolo: 4:02pm On Apr 06, 2010
Kobojunkie

Thanks Jare!

No one here is asking any meaningful question. we are just satisfied saying heewuuu, ehyaaaa, kpelllee, chai, ewooooo, when the country is upside down. If Jonathan were a northerner, these same people would have recognized him because the position favors them.
somebody here said that Rimi resigned his position as governor of kano. to whose benefit? why cant i start my distillery business in kano then? of what benefit is Rimi's purported resignation to me that I should 'show respect' now that he has died?

Are they not the same people that left hospitals without stretchers that he had to be lapped like a baby before he died in hospital? why should i spend so much seeking better medical care in india and not in the specialist hospital in kano? why

what part of our constitution recognizes amputation as a medium of punishment while government looters go with their full limbs. at night these amputees are heaped like plagues on my backyard and they are now crawling all over the place in Lagos, stealing and making a mockery of human dignity. what has been done by these people, rimi included, so that these people are properly trained and can open businesses that can benefit my cousins and brothers?/

so why should i say ehyaaaa for Rimi when i have not in any way benefitted from him?? why??
Re: The North Does Not Recognise Jonathan As Ag President – Rimi by Nigerd(m): 5:05pm On Apr 06, 2010
tundewoods:

Abubakar Rimi was a indeed a fine gentleman during his life time and probably one of the most unique and sincere politicians Nigeria has ever produced. This was a man that willingly resigned his post as the Governor of Kano state during the second republic.

I think this man atleast deserves some respect.


he was neva gentle, and not sincere,  he was a political Prosti tute, just within a year left AC to PDP,
Re: The North Does Not Recognise Jonathan As Ag President – Rimi by Nobody: 6:26pm On Apr 06, 2010
hatch#:

You know what davidylan ? You are one pathetic slowpoke that lack an atom of respect for the dead

A man gives his honest opinion about an issue and you dare call him an idiot ? Only a retard like you would make such a comment.

lol i wonder what the dead would do with the false "respect" you purport to have for them. Rimi is as much a part of the problem with Nigeria today. Good riddance to bad rubbish. Excellent he was killed in the very same Kano he governed for yrs. He had his chance to give Kano excellent security and health facilities . . . he didnt.
Re: The North Does Not Recognise Jonathan As Ag President – Rimi by Dede1(m): 12:12am On Apr 07, 2010
There is no position or office of the "Acting President” in Nigerian constitution. The only time the phrase “acting president” was included in the constitution happened in the last sentence of section 145 with regard to discharge of duties of President by the Vice President. All the on-going political shenanigans in Nigeria as pertaining to President, Vice President and National Assembly are unconstitutional. However, we are talking about Nigeria that has no business studying democracy talk less of practicing it.


Section 38 of Nigeria constitution deals with freedom of religion and Sharia is part of Islamic religion.

The display of blind sentiment doctored by sectionalism is the major reason Nigeria will ever remain backward in every human endeavor.
Re: The North Does Not Recognise Jonathan As Ag President – Rimi by igbogolo: 8:46am On Apr 07, 2010
Mr Dede 1

Really? So when a state now has different courts and different police that report only to the emir, is that freedom of religion? Was it not someone from the north that issued a 'fatwa' on a misunderstood journalist during the botched miss world contest?
Does out constitution recognize sharia courts and fatwa? what religion endorses the open assassination call for a journalist and yet you come here to justify freedom of religion! The poor girl fled the country and is now seeking asylum somewhere else. so what happened to her freedom of association as guaranteed by the constitution that this sharia is violating? Please answer me. A country does not run two laws at the same time because we are not an islamic country!!!!!!

Can you imagine a christian vying for the governorship of Kano not to talk of a council?
I lived in the north you know and what happens there is nothing like freedom of anything.
Re: The North Does Not Recognise Jonathan As Ag President – Rimi by Dominoifet(m): 9:31am On Apr 07, 2010
^^Move ur monkey a$$ down south.

Let's didvide this ugly mothafcuker

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