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Nigerian Scientists Develop Fuelless Generator by NSNA: 1:50pm On Apr 08, 2010
http://allafrica.com/stories/201004050584.html

Lagos — A team of Nigerian scientists has developed a generator, which does not use fuel and made with almost 100 per cent locally sourced materials.

The device, known as "Fuel-less Electricity Generator," was demonstrated at a one- day workshop in Osogbo on Saturday.

The News Agency of Nigeria (NAN) reports that the workshop was organised by M-K Technology Nig. Ltd, Ibadan.


One of the organisers of the workshop, Akinyefa Ajibola, a computer scientist, said he and other scientists developed the machine.

He said there had been some efforts in the past to develop the machine but the team only had a breakthrough in December 2009.

According to him, it is a feat by the scientists aimed at tackling the problem of electricity supply in the country.

Ajibola called for a positive response from the government to enhance the mass production of the machine.

"Unlike the existing electricity generating sets the device has no side effects. It does not fume and is noiseless.

"It can also be used 24 hours non-stop, using dry cell batteries but it needs some rest once in a while to enhance its lifespan," he said.

On the marketing, Ajibola said the company would need some capital to enable it to begin standard packaging of the product for public use.

"We don't sell the product now, we only train people to do it themselves but we may manufacture it for commercial purposes if the capital is there," he said.

Two participants at the workshop, Messrs Babatope Lawal and Adeyemi Olu, lauded the initiative and advised the government to encourage the scientists.
Re: Nigerian Scientists Develop Fuelless Generator by Kobojunkie: 1:53pm On Apr 08, 2010
Is it possible to get a link to read more on this particular machine and it's development?
Re: Nigerian Scientists Develop Fuelless Generator by safeact(m): 2:00pm On Apr 08, 2010
I hope its not an inverter!
Re: Nigerian Scientists Develop Fuelless Generator by SEFAGO(m): 2:06pm On Apr 08, 2010
Kobojunkie:

Is it possible to get a link to read more on this particular machine and it's development?

So that you can criticize it even though you have never invented anything lol?
Re: Nigerian Scientists Develop Fuelless Generator by Kobojunkie: 2:14pm On Apr 08, 2010
safeact:

I hope its not an inverter!

I doubt it could be an inverter. I would think our scientists know the diff.  Just that this will be a first ever, if true

http://home.earthlink.net/~drestinblack/generator.htm

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Re: Nigerian Scientists Develop Fuelless Generator by Afam(m): 2:16pm On Apr 08, 2010
No information as regards how the fuelless generator works. What generates the power? Without more information about this my guess is that the journalists could have been sold a dummy here.
Re: Nigerian Scientists Develop Fuelless Generator by Nobody: 2:21pm On Apr 08, 2010
This sound more like an Inverter to me, especially with the issue of dry cell battery. What powers it to generate the electricity?
Re: Nigerian Scientists Develop Fuelless Generator by ow11(m): 2:35pm On Apr 08, 2010
This is mediocre writing at its best. A supposed educated journalist goes to cover a story on new inventions and doesn't even give a hint on how the damn equipment works. . . Maybe the idiot scientist is thinking of coca-cola's secret formula when he is displaying his 'invention'.

This is how to write a story about an invention. . .Useless Journalists.
Re: Nigerian Scientists Develop Fuelless Generator by Kobojunkie: 2:38pm On Apr 08, 2010
Very good example @Ow11. I don't really blame our journalists anymore. At the end of the day, may are all too willing to swallow up the gobbly-de-goop reporting without question. So, they have no real serious reasons to improve their reporting.
Re: Nigerian Scientists Develop Fuelless Generator by Nobody: 3:07pm On Apr 08, 2010
LOL

I think the problem with the Nigerian press/media/journalism is that there are no dedicated specialists.

Every tom, dike and harry with some degree in mass communication from Ago Iwoye will certainly have his/her garbage on the web or dailies.
Re: Nigerian Scientists Develop Fuelless Generator by Arkison: 3:10pm On Apr 08, 2010
This is like inventing the "Perpetual Motion Machine" which violates the fundamentals laws of thermodynamics. However, no such machine exists and can exist.



The reference to the dry cell give the complete description of the machine. It is just a DC to AC current converter. Not an inverter in the sense, but at the end of the day, you might have to buy the dry cell.

Energy can only be transformed from one form to another.


I hope this guys are not doing 419 to the government. Collect research grands and disappear into the thin air. Scientist all over the world are known for that.
Re: Nigerian Scientists Develop Fuelless Generator by wirinet(m): 3:12pm On Apr 08, 2010
Nigerians and hype, i do not know whether to blame the journalist or the so called "scientists".  A generator "generates" electricity. It generates the electricity by converting other forms of energy into electrical energy. A hydo turbine is a fuelless generator as the kinetic energy of falling water is converted to electricity. Solar panels, wind turbines, wave turbines are other forms of fuelless electric generators. But to link a fuelless generator with a dry cell battery is either ignorance or plain stupidity. A dry cell battery already possesses stored electricity, so you have to explain how the electricity got into the battery in the first place for us to see if the electricity is fuelless or not.

Furthermore you do not use dry cell for an inverter system, you either us regular lead/acid batteries or you use maintenance -free batteries which still lead-acid batteries but is completely sealed. So the journalist or the scientist have no clue on the regular inverter system.

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Re: Nigerian Scientists Develop Fuelless Generator by Nobody: 3:33pm On Apr 08, 2010
If it's not an inverter then it's the perpetual motion machine, live and direct in Nigeria. grin
Re: Nigerian Scientists Develop Fuelless Generator by dustydee: 3:34pm On Apr 08, 2010
my guess is and inverter with a modified design. Welldone to them
Re: Nigerian Scientists Develop Fuelless Generator by safeact(m): 4:13pm On Apr 08, 2010
As long as it makes use of batteries weather dry cell or wet cell, it is no lönger news! It must be continuesly be recharge by either topping with diluted sulphuric acid or by electricity to enhance löng lasting in which case it becomes an inverter. I would have prefered if they had come up with dif/another source of energy other than battery or fuel, mayb mechanical form of energy! By making use of battery, it makes d price to b high cos a 40Amp battery is almost at N13000, not to talk of a heavy duty one. Now imagine when u combine d price of d battery and d so called generator (converter) then u see what i mean. In any case, they tried bt they need to look @ d cost and many other things esp d engineering design.
Re: Nigerian Scientists Develop Fuelless Generator by agathamari(f): 4:22pm On Apr 08, 2010
energy (electicity included) cannot be created or destroyed only transfered. a "fuel-less" power sorce is imposible by the laws of physics.
Re: Nigerian Scientists Develop Fuelless Generator by AjanleKoko: 5:18pm On Apr 08, 2010
Actually it is possible theoretically, to have a closed-loop recyclable energy system. I.e. you use the output of your fuel-source as feedback, to 'recycle' the stored energy back into storage.

But you have to have what is called a 'lossless' system, a 'superconductor' carrying the current back into the feedback loop. Which is only possible in a lab where you create an environment without temperature, pressure, humidity, light, etc. I doubt anybody in Abeokuta or Osogbo would have achieved that.

Or you could have a primary source of energy, like water, from which you can produce hydrogen via a closed-loop converter. The hydrogen will now be used to power a generator specially rigged up for that purpose. I have seen a few patents on that online.
Re: Nigerian Scientists Develop Fuelless Generator by wirinet(m): 5:30pm On Apr 08, 2010
AjanleKoko:

Actually it is possible theoretically, to have a closed-loop recyclable energy system. I.e. you use the output of your fuel-source as feedback, to 'recycle' the stored energy back into storage.

But you have to have what is called a 'lossless' system, a 'superconductor' carrying the current back into the feedback loop. Which is only possible in a lab where you create an environment without temperature, pressure, humidity, light, etc. I doubt anybody in Abeokuta or Osogbo would have achieved that.

Or you could have a primary source of energy, like water, from which you can produce hydrogen via a closed-loop converter. The hydrogen will now be used to power a generator specially rigged up for that purpose. I have seen a few patents on that online.

I like your imagination, at least it is more lively than that of the so called scientist trying to re-invent the wheel or is it the round table.

Theoretically you can travel back in time, the problem is its practicality. There is nothing like a lossless system, it can never be achieved, energy will always be lost once the energy moves from on location to the other, and we are not even talking of using the energy yet, or else you can have a perpetual motion machine.

Producing Hydrogen from water consumes more energy than can be obtained from it. Except other methods of extracting hydrogen is found other than electrolysis. What you see online is patent (and there are thousands of unpractical ones out there) and not a working device.
Re: Nigerian Scientists Develop Fuelless Generator by AjanleKoko: 5:36pm On Apr 08, 2010
^^
LOL. Well, we are talking what is theoretically possible here. In any case, power ain't my forte.

You never know, though. Scientists have been working on superconducting applications at the Argonne Labs for at least half a century now. But I doubt the guys at Osogbo can beat them to the punch, much as I'd love to see that happen.
Re: Nigerian Scientists Develop Fuelless Generator by oge4real(f): 5:54pm On Apr 08, 2010
oop, I think I missed my way.
Re: Nigerian Scientists Develop Fuelless Generator by NSNA: 7:44pm On Apr 08, 2010
If anybody has any more information about this please post a link,

This could be interesting

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Re: Nigerian Scientists Develop Fuelless Generator by safeact(m): 8:41pm On Apr 08, 2010
@oge4real, never mind we are in d political science class! @NSNA, what do u aim to achieve? U like free lecture abi? Wait till aisha2 comes arnd.
Re: Nigerian Scientists Develop Fuelless Generator by edoyad(m): 9:04pm On Apr 08, 2010
Actually it's very possible to do this. A guy once showed us his plan to hook up an alternator to an inverter like device. The trick is that while the inverter is being powered by the batteries, the alternator in turn also charges the batteries meaning the batteries don't run down till they expire.
Re: Nigerian Scientists Develop Fuelless Generator by Beaf: 11:00pm On Apr 08, 2010
At the very best, this story is an attempt at 419; at the worst, it is a case of the usual gutter journalism.
The description of the machine violates the laws of nature. The law of conservation of energy is the most basic of all laws and can never be violated, it says; "energy cannot be created or destroyed, only converted from one form to another". Put simply, if you don't put fuel (or other energy) in the generator, nothing will come out of it.

As a matter of fact you must put more energy in than you can get out. This is because payment has to be made for various types of "friction", the usual friction between gears, pulleys, other moving parts and losses from conversion of one form of energy into another or heat losses from the flow of an electrical current (this happens even in superconductors).

This is a case of irresponsible reporting.
Re: Nigerian Scientists Develop Fuelless Generator by Sunofgod(m): 11:05pm On Apr 08, 2010
Think it runs of casava mixed with plutonium?

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Re: Nigerian Scientists Develop Fuelless Generator by Ijeleigbo(m): 7:10am On Apr 09, 2010
Our engineers in the house una talk well but wait a minute where is Nigerian journalism heading to? No accurate details on how the device works? Well i am not surprised. 9ja na 9ja.
Re: Nigerian Scientists Develop Fuelless Generator by Abagworo(m): 7:25am On Apr 09, 2010
fuelless MY A**.LWKMD!
Re: Nigerian Scientists Develop Fuelless Generator by dammizz(m): 11:31am On Apr 09, 2010
Why doesnt he design it, get sponsors and start selling to the market?, mehn, I refuse to believe this. He's just tryin to make huge cash off pple and fu*%k off
Re: Nigerian Scientists Develop Fuelless Generator by switchmax8: 11:48am On Apr 09, 2010
nigeria does not need a generator our main source of electricity needs to be upgraded at this age our scientist are still making research on generating sets instead making reasonable research on how PHCN will work effectively like other countries.How can we be talking of vision 2020 when our scientist are still making research on fueless generating set.
Re: Nigerian Scientists Develop Fuelless Generator by tempest01(m): 11:49am On Apr 09, 2010
Let's just say by 'fueless' he means the layman's 'fuel' as in petrol or diesel.
Re: Nigerian Scientists Develop Fuelless Generator by ThinkRait: 11:49am On Apr 09, 2010
Fuel-less or Less Fuel.
A generator that uses Less fuel.

The said generator uses a dry cell battery for 24 hour operations.
Is a battery not a fuel source?
Re: Nigerian Scientists Develop Fuelless Generator by Ben13: 11:54am On Apr 09, 2010
We need Constant Electricity. haba!

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