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Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by taurusmena1(m): 10:48am On Jan 07, 2018
Also the sin of DISDAIN... imagine even after death, he still saw Lazarus as a mere beggar,messenger and a lesser human. Pride...
Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by irynterri(f): 10:49am On Jan 07, 2018
Apina:

Your sermon though wonderful doesn't really tell what the sin of the rich man was smiley. Most persons have argued that he didn't love Lazarus, but I don't believe that was the case, cos he allowed him stay at his gate and eat from his table even though they were leftovers.

For The rich man to have been able to identify Lazarus at the other side simply points to the fact that he knows who Lazarus is, most probably while moving in and out of his mansion could have asked about him when he saw him sitting at his gate. The Bible said he lived in luxury while Lazarus begged and had sores all over, did he ever refuse to help Lazarus? I don't think so cos if that were to be the case, Lazarus would most likely not remain at his gate cos Lazarus would need to eat to survive and would have moved on to another place where he would get food but he remained and even died there. We can actually say the rich man was generous to the beggar cos he allowed him to lay his head within his property and allowed him to feed from his table, eating the same food he ate.

The sin of the rich man wasn't that he didn't love Lazarus but was that "He Was INSENSITIVE to the plight of the beggar". The sin of insensitivity is so faint that it's almost impossible to detect, and it's everywhere, in the church, on your streets and even in the family.

thanks for your wonderful contribution, not loving his neighbor as himself covers the umbrella of insensitivity, although I think your mentioning insensitivity hit the nail on its head. thanks for the correction
Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by Apina(m): 10:50am On Jan 07, 2018
traeces:

Your assertion is great but I am convinced you missed an important point as your assertion is not rooted enough in scripture.

Condemnation which lands people in hell is first and foremost due to the sin of unbelief. John 3:18 What you do or do not do is immaterial as long as faith in God is not in place. You can give your body to be burnt for the poor if you want but unless you first believe that God is and a rewarder of those who diligently seek him, you cannot please God. This thought is evident in verses 28-30 of the Luke scripture OP posted.

God calls everyone to put their faith in Christ Jesus and come to him in repentance.
what condemnation are u talking about? Where did I talk about condemnation? What has belief in God got to do with what I said? what makes my supposed assertion unscriptural and the yardstick for such measurements? And how does what u just said apply to my submissions?
Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by Olabenjamen22(m): 10:51am On Jan 07, 2018
This is the kind of thread that suppose to be in front page every Sunday

SEUN take note.

Happy Sunday brethren

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Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by maum: 10:58am On Jan 07, 2018
The holy mother church draws our awareness to the sins of omission and commission.

The rich man's sin is clear - he committed the sin of omission.

Do not neglect the people around you who need your help.

On a broader scale, don't neglect to do what you ought to do, to better the society and humanity. Nothing is spared. It affects our everyday way of life. Be it loving your neighbour, doing your bit to the good of the society and humanity, dutifully fulfilling your civic rights that aren't sin: things like making sure you vote right to keep away the people who'll come to scatter the nation, not being inconsiderate and driving or parking your car in a way that it'll inconvenience the next road user.

Our salvation and belief should tell in our everyday way of life. We should reflect through our lives that we are Christians. Everything you should do, do it no matter whose ox is gored.

After all, it was said in the Bible, if you do good only to those who do good to you, what's the extra different thing you're doing then as a Christian? Because the average Pharisee (average human being) does the same.

Yes, the Bible preaches 'do unto others as you'd like them to do unto you'; therefore can you imagine that world where no one is looking to hurt or con the next person?

A saying goes thus, 'the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing.'

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Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by irynterri(f): 11:02am On Jan 07, 2018
Emmanystone:

Good sermon, thank you very much. BUT, your sermon seem to dwell on monetary wealth only.

Wealth is not necessarily the cash one has or poverty the lack of it. They are very wealthy people who are not as rich monetarily and they are very wealth men who do not have cash.

In the Kingdom of God, things are not the way they are in the secular world.

If you ask me, i'd say, the Rich man didn't end up in hell or Hades because he didn't feed Lazarus, Yes, he should have, but that was not his only fault. What was his motive for not doing it? Motive is what YHWH will primarily use to judge us. Why did you do it?

I'd say, he didn't do it because of his PRIDE OR HAUGHTINESS.

When you consider yourself better than the next person, then you have a problem with YHWH. If it were just a matter of giving, am sure if a man or woman of his status showed up in his house while at table, he'll insist that the person joins him. But, Pride was his undoing.

The Issue is Pride. His condescending attitude did not allow him consider that Lazarus was human just as he was.

And, Listen, when you stand preaching the Gospel but take a position to condemn another preacher, you invalidate your position. because, you are not called into that ministry by the master. Anyone who stands on others to be seen, will eventually fall.

If you take time to listen to the so called Prosperity preachers, you'd understand that, they try to go beyond 'the life of Jesus' which was offered as a propitiation for us, to the PRINCIPLES OF JESUS which he taught us what to do and how to do it to occupy this earth until his return.

If you decides to end at 'the Life of Jesus' without applying 'the Principles of Jesus', then be okay with that, instead of criticizing those who goes further.

The Rich man didn't go to hell because he was Rich and Lazarus didn't end up in the Bossom of Abraham because he was poor. All of them had attitudes which propelled their actions while alive, and that determined where they both ended.

As much as Jesus said 'The Poor shall not cease in our midst', we as Christians are also enjoined to work with our own hands. The Bible says 'A lazy man should not be given food. He that does no work, shd not eat.

Why was Lazarus poor? Was he sick hence, could not work with his hands or just lazy? I believe in Lazarus's case he was sick, so can be excused. But if not, he had no right to go to the rich man's house to beg.

Bottomline, poverty is not a mark of Holiness, for poverty is a spirit and it is evil. Jesus said, 'Let the poor say i am rich'. Why is that?

Again, Riches or wealth is not a mark of Sin. Anyone who workd hard will be wealthy. A believer or an unbeliever. Sowing and reaping happens to both.

There's no father of faith who was poor and a begger. Is it Abraham, or Jacob? ot Joseph, or who?

Stop preaching a wrong gospel pls.

If we work hard, especially if you are rightly planted and in a good soil, doing what pleases God, He'll prosper you and you'd leave substance for your offspring.

Poverty is sin.

Shalom.
thanks for your contribution, but I doubt you read the sermon 'cos if you did you will understand the sin I pointed out was not loving his neighbor or as someone pointed out been insensitive to the plight of his neighbor, in no part of this sermon did I say his wealth was sinful.thanks

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Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by seagulsntrawler: 11:03am On Jan 07, 2018
Emmanystone:

Good sermon, thank you very much. BUT, your sermon seem to dwell on monetary wealth only.

Wealth is not necessarily the cash one has or poverty the lack of it. They are very wealthy people who are not as rich monetarily and they are very wealth men who do not have cash.

In the Kingdom of God, things are not the way they are in the secular world.

If you ask me, i'd say, the Rich man didn't end up in hell or Hades because he didn't feed Lazarus, Yes, he should have, but that was not his only fault. What was his motive for not doing it? Motive is what YHWH will primarily use to judge us. Why did you do it?

I'd say, he didn't do it because of his PRIDE OR HAUGHTINESS.

When you consider yourself better than the next person, then you have a problem with YHWH. If it were just a matter of giving, am sure if a man or woman of his status showed up in his house while at table, he'll insist that the person joins him. But, Pride was his undoing.

The Issue is Pride. His condescending attitude did not allow him consider that Lazarus was human just as he was.

And, Listen, when you stand preaching the Gospel but take a position to condemn another preacher, you invalidate your position. because, you are not called into that ministry by the master. Anyone who stands on others to be seen, will eventually fall.

If you take time to listen to the so called Prosperity preachers, you'd understand that, they try to go beyond 'the life of Jesus' which was offered as a propitiation for us, to the PRINCIPLES OF JESUS which he taught us what to do and how to do it to occupy this earth until his return.

If you decides to end at 'the Life of Jesus' without applying 'the Principles of Jesus', then be okay with that, instead of criticizing those who goes further.

The Rich man didn't go to hell because he was Rich and Lazarus didn't end up in the Bossom of Abraham because he was poor. All of them had attitudes which propelled their actions while alive, and that determined where they both ended.

As much as Jesus said 'The Poor shall not cease in our midst', we as Christians are also enjoined to work with our own hands. The Bible says 'A lazy man should not be given food. He that does no work, shd not eat.

Why was Lazarus poor? Was he sick hence, could not work with his hands or just lazy? I believe in Lazarus's case he was sick, so can be excused. But if not, he had no right to go to the rich man's house to beg.

Bottomline, poverty is not a mark of Holiness, for poverty is a spirit and it is evil. Jesus said, 'Let the poor say i am rich'. Why is that?

Again, Riches or wealth is not a mark of Sin. Anyone who workd hard will be wealthy. A believer or an unbeliever. Sowing and reaping happens to both.

There's no father of faith who was poor and a begger. Is it Abraham, or Jacob? ot Joseph, or who?

Stop preaching a wrong gospel pls.

If we work hard, especially if you are rightly planted and in a good soil, doing what pleases God, He'll prosper you and you'd leave substance for your offspring.

Poverty is sin.

Shalom.
I disagree with what you've just said up there. Poverty is not a sin and the Gospel of Christ was mainly for the poor hence the reason he said, " the Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath appointed me to preach the gospel to the poor;" "Luke 4:18. All through his life Christ mingled more with the poor cos he was one himself and it partly accounts for the reasons why the Jews never accepted him as the messiah, " and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him." Isaiah 53:2. And today's gospel of prosperity has led many not to desire Christ, to walk in his path and be their brothers keeper. Again, he said, take heed and beware of covetousness: for a man's life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth. Luke 12:15 Lastly, you used Abraham as an example of someone that was wealthy who we should all strive to be like, but sadly none of his wealth, cattles and houses are around anymore. It means your salvation transcends wealth and should be seen as form spiritual currency. Your being wealthy should be seen an undeserved favor from God to help others and he giveth riches to whom it pleases Him, believers and non believers.

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Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by Apina(m): 11:12am On Jan 07, 2018
irynterri:
thanks for your wonderful contribution, not loving his neighbor as himself covers the umbrella of insensitivity, although I think your mentioning insensitivity hit the nail on its head. thanks for the correction
Insensitivity is not necessarily the absence of love smiley. Lazarus for example slept by his gate and ate the crumbs from his table, the question is, was Lazarus the only one around the rich man and was his going to hell based on just that? I missed something important in my first submission which is "The sin of OMISSION" which borders on what he failed to do not just for Lazarus who was just a template but also to others and from what he said to Abraham about sending Lazarus to his brothers meant they lived in a particular manner not different from the way he lived.
Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by Nobody: 11:28am On Jan 07, 2018
DLondonboiy:
At least he allowed his dogs take care of the pooor man's wound, init?
The rich mans sin was simply being rich. Jesus was mostly against rich people...He always wanted them to sell their properties and give all to the poor.

Notice the apostles folllowed that same pattern. Everybody sold whatever they had and gave to the poor.

But today, an oyedepo or one of those charlatans would take from the poor and build schools and hotels and tell you "Job was the richestman in the east"..

SMH
Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by jasmeel: 11:53am On Jan 07, 2018
A rich man without the fear of God, no matter what he gives is good but not acceptable.. A rich man who believes in Christ Jesus, gives not only bread but also the word of God. So what ever we do or say let's do it with the fear of God in our hearts . Forget about any logical way......love.....

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Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by traeces(m): 12:02pm On Jan 07, 2018
Apina:
what condemnation are u talking about? Where did I talk about condemnation? What has belief in God got to do with what I said? what makes my supposed assertion unscriptural and the yardstick for such measurements? And how does what u just said apply to my submissions?

According to your submission, "The sin of the rich man wasn't that he didn't love Lazarus but was that "He Was INSENSITIVE to the plight of the beggar ". " but I am saying the sin of that rich man and indeed every unbeliever is the sin of unbelief. To back up my position, I quoted John 3:18 which says,

"He who believes in Him [who clings to, trusts in, relies on Him] is not judged [he who trusts in Him never comes up for judgment; for him there is no rejection, no condemnation--he incurs no damnation]; but he who does not believe (cleave to, rely on, trust in Him) is judged already [he has already been convicted and has already received his sentence] because he has not believed in and trusted in the name of the only begotten Son of God. [He is condemned for refusing to let his trust rest in Christ's name.]" Amp
Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by MyFlair(m): 12:25pm On Jan 07, 2018
correctguy101:


Na by force?
He has a right to decide who to give his hard earned cash, doesn't he? angry
And GOD has right to decide who comes into his kingdom
Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by johnydon22(m): 12:34pm On Jan 07, 2018
irynterri:
Happy New Year to every one. The discussion today is the story of the rich man and Lazarus, let us read the Bible verse before the discussion. Luke 16:19-31New International Version (NIV)
The Rich Man and Lazarus
19 “There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. 20 At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores 21 and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.
22 “The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24 So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’
25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. 26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’
27 “He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family, 28 for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’
29 “Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’
30 “‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’
31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’”

It is called: The sin of omission
Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by MyFlair(m): 12:43pm On Jan 07, 2018
Apina:

Insensitivity is not necessarily the absence of love smiley. Lazarus for example slept by his gate and ate the crumbs from his table, the question is, was Lazarus the only one around the rich man and was his going to hell based on just that? I missed something important in my first submission which is "The sin of OMISSION" which borders on what he failed to do not just for Lazarus who was just a template but also to others and from what he said to Abraham about sending Lazarus to his brothers meant they lived in a particular manner not different from the way he lived.
The rich man had no love for Lazarus. were he his brother wouldnt he have treated him of that tormenting wounds?
Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by Apina(m): 1:06pm On Jan 07, 2018
MyFlair:
The rich man had no love for Lazarus. were he his brother wouldnt he have treated him of that tormenting wounds?
The question should be where are Lazarus' family members? The rich man was kind enough to allow a total stranger stay by his door steps and even feed from his table. If he had no love for Lazarus, he would have sent him away.
Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by Apina(m): 1:11pm On Jan 07, 2018
traeces:


According to your submission, "The sin of the rich man wasn't that he didn't love Lazarus but was that "He Was INSENSITIVE to the plight of the beggar ". " but I am saying the sin of that rich man and indeed every unbeliever is the sin of unbelief. To back up my position, I quoted John 3:18 which says,

"He who believes in Him [who clings to, trusts in, relies on Him] is not judged [he who trusts in Him never comes up for judgment; for him there is no rejection, no condemnation--he incurs no damnation]; but he who does not believe (cleave to, rely on, trust in Him) is judged already [he has already been convicted and has already received his sentence] because he has not believed in and trusted in the name of the only begotten Son of God. [He is condemned for refusing to let his trust rest in Christ's name.]" Amp
What's the relationship between the story of Lazarus and unbelief? I would suggest u read through the original post again.
Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by Emmanystone: 1:20pm On Jan 07, 2018
seagulsntrawler:

I disagree with what you've just said up there. Poverty is not a sin and the Gospel of Christ was mainly for the poor hence the reason he said, " the Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath appointed me to preach the gospel to the poor;"
Can you please interpret this verse of Scripture to me?
Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven"
Matthew:5:3
And, why in your understanding do you think Christ preached the gospel to the Poor?

To who did the Holy Spirit say 'For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.
2 Corinthians:8:9
Is it to the rich or the poor?

seagulsntrawler:

All through his life Christ mingled more with the poor cos he was one himself[/b]and it partly accounts for the reasons why the Jews never accepted him as the messiah,
Lolzzzzzzz. This is a case of someone who doesn't know who Jesus of Nazareth is. Wow. Jesus was poor? How? [b]For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.
2 Corinthians:8:9
The question is why does it seem like the gospel is meant just for the poor? Let's see.

Good News Translation Luke 14:16-21
Jesus said to him, “There was once a man who was giving a great feast to which he invited his friends.

When it was time for the feast, he sent his servant to tell his guests, ‘Come, everything is ready!’ But they all began, one after another, to make excuses.

The first one told the servant, ‘I have bought a field and must go and look at it; please accept my apologies.’ Another one said,

‘I have bought five pairs of oxen and am on my way to try them out; please accept my apologies.’ Another one said, ‘I have just gotten married, and for that reason I cannot come.’

The servant went back and told all this to his master. The master was furious and said to his servant,

‘Hurry out to the streets and alleys of the town, and bring back the poor, the crippled, the blind, and the lame.’
.

Jesus here wasn't talking about men who had money, who had material businesses to attend to, He is talking about the Jews and Pharisees who felt they already had God of Moses and were good with that, hence didn't need what Christ came with.

The God of their Father Abraham, had promised them a Seed which will crush the head of the serpent and restore to them that which was stolen from them by Satan in Eden, but they were distracted to think it was a physical political and secular triumph over their surrounding enemies, hence cast him off when they didn't think he met their profile.

However, the Gentile Nations who didn't have YHWH were the 'poor ones' in need of the life which the Jews lacked but thought they had, hence were brought into the covenant of Abraham. The Gentiles are the Male, blind, halt. The poor in Spirit.

It's all about being grafted into the Kingdom of God. It has absolutely nothing to do with physical money.

seagulsntrawler:

" and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him." Isaiah 53:2
Very interesting. Now, why was the Messiah rejected?

For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
Isaiah:53:2.

Why was he rejected? Was He rejected because He was not beautiful and rich?

Here...

All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
Isaiah:53:6
He wasn't rejected because he was poor, he was rejected because MEN LOVE SIN more THAN RIGHTEOUSNESS, MEN LOVE DARKNESS more THAN LIGHT. The same thing is still on going right here even in this forum.

seagulsntrawler:

And today's gospel of prosperity has led many not to desire Christ, to walk in his path and be their brothers keeper. Again, he said, take heed and beware of covetousness: for a man's life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth. Luke 12:15
That's not true. Maybe that's what you believe that those who work hard and are prosperous are not godly, but believe me you are very wrong.
Yes, covetousness or greed is a sin, but that is not the same thing as working hard and God prospering the works of your hands.

Deut. 8:18 talks about YHWH himself empowering his faithful servants to make wealth. Will you say, He will empower them to be greedy and covetous? Will you call Job a covetous man? Was Jacob Covetous?
Did God promise to bless you abundantly if you'd faithfully serve Him?

When Peter obeyed Him by giving Him his ship to preach the gospel, did He leave Peter the way He met Peter? When he took 5 loafs and 2 fish from a lad and fed 5000 men, how many baskets were left for the boy?

Guy, you can not separate prosperity from the gospel of YHWH. "Cry yet, saying, Thus saith the LORD of hosts; My cities through prosperity shall yet be spread abroad; and the LORD shall yet comfort Zion, and shall yet choose Jerusalem
Zechariah:1:17
And who or what is Zion? The body of Christ.

seagulsntrawler:

Lastly, you used Abraham as an example of someone that was wealthy who we should all strive to be like, but sadly none of his wealth, cattles and houses are around anymore.
Really? When last did you take a closer look to the Life of a Jew, or even Me, the Seed of Abraham through Christ? Lolzzzzzz. You are expecting Pa Abraham's cattles to be walking about today in Israel? Wow.

Look unto Abraham your father, and unto Sarah that bare you: for I called him alone, and blessed him, and increased him.
Isaiah:51:2.
If you obey God as Papa did, his blessings and the increase he got from our heavenly Father shall manifest in you also.

seagulsntrawler:

It means your salvation transcends wealth and should be seen as form spiritual currency.
I agree with you 100%, but pls don't make it seem like a man who obeys God by working very hard and God prospering the works of his hands as promised is committing a sin.

Do you even know who God is? It's like saying Prince William of the United Kingdom should beg for bread because it will be covetous of him to be wealthy. And you are far beyond Prince William. You are an heir to the throne of the universe. What??. The entire earth with everything in it, the Silver and gold belongs to your father, yet you talk about being poor. This is thinking backward.
seagulsntrawler:

Your being wealthy should be seen as an undeserved favor from God to help others and he giveth riches to whom it pleases Him, believers and non believers.
Now you come down to my point.

Let me reiterate, Covetous which is always wanting to collect what others have to add to yours, is a sin, GREED, which is not being contented or satisfied with what you have, is also a sin.

But.

Working hard and applying Kingdom principles (Just like Isaac) and having breaththroughs and becoming rich is not a sin.

JESUS BECAME POOR FOR THE POOR TO BECOME RICH. POVERTY IS BAD.
Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by Emmanystone: 1:23pm On Jan 07, 2018
irynterri:
thanks for your contribution, but I doubt you read the sermon 'cos if you did you will understand the sin I pointed out was not loving his neighbor or as someone pointed out been insensitive to the plight of his neighbor, in no part of this sermon did I say his wealth was sinful.thanks
Okay.
Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by Emmanystone: 1:23pm On Jan 07, 2018
yungchivvy:
poverty is sin?? Woow. Just woow. Ntin else to say mr preacher
If it wasn't why will Christ die to take it away from the poor?
Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by Nobody: 1:33pm On Jan 07, 2018
Emmanystone:

If it wasn't why will Christ die to take it away from the poor?
Christ died to take poverty away from the poor?? Smh. Bro e don do.. Just stop taking that weed.
Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by Nobody: 1:36pm On Jan 07, 2018
It was just a parable. It didn't happen. The lesson is to love all no matter their disposition in life.

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Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by Emmanystone: 1:41pm On Jan 07, 2018
akhis:


Nice write up. Very well detailed but little contradictions. Poverty is not sin. As said there will always be some poor among us its left for us to work and pray not to be poor. Work alone may not make you reach, hence pray as you work. For He gives them both same time and chance, meaning but the poor and the rich have same life and opportunity while some will have it some may not
Dear sir. What the Master means there is that, In our midst will always be the less privileged, why? because some will be born blind, lame, sick, some will be orphaned very early in life, hence, they'll depend on us for charity. But, the Master is completely against idleness or laziness which terns to poverty.

We are asked to go and take a lesson from the Ants who are very busy working in the right season to store food for the rainy season.

Jeaus redeemed us from the Scotch of poverty, by He who 'Being rich, became poor that we the poor may become rich.

He never said, the well able bodied men will always be poor. He said, let the poor who became so because of laziness, not be given food. Let everyone work with their hands to have to eat and give to others in need.

Yes, God has given us the same time, chance and opportunities to make wealth, BUT, We make this wealth according to the capacity bestowed on us by the Father of all flesh. To some He gave 5 talents to multiply, to some He gave 3 and to some He gave 1.

According to the level of our strengths and capacities to reproduce he gave. But the one who dug the ground and buried his, will eventually go to the one who multiplied his 5 and had 10 to beg for food abi?

Again, the Mistake we make is this, the Man who was given 3 multiplies to have 6, but he believes he must have what the guy who was given 5 who had 10, without which, he believes he is not rich. Wrong.

The only people are permitted to be poor in our midst are the blind, the halt, the afflicted. In other words, physically challenged. No able bodied man shd be poor. No acceptable.
Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by Academicwizman(m): 1:42pm On Jan 07, 2018
How are we sure if there is a role reversal (I. E. the Lazarus is put in the position of the rich man and vice versa) he will not behave like the rich man? Unless it is just a parable, if not but a real life story, equity is lacking in the judgement.
Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by cstr1001: 1:45pm On Jan 07, 2018
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Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by Emmanystone: 1:49pm On Jan 07, 2018
realmindz:


excellent question


@Emmanystone, pls whatz the righteousness of the poor man.

He believed in whom the Father of All creation gave as a propitiation for our sins. He accepted the righteousness of Christ which was offered to him freely.
John:6:28-29
Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?
Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.



The righteouness of God is imputted unto us. We don't do anything to get it. We believe in whom was sent to us from YHWH. When we do, he exchanges our righteousness for His.

That is what Lazarus did.
Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by kelvinjeremiah(m): 1:51pm On Jan 07, 2018
DLondonboiy:
At least he allowed his dogs take care of the pooor man's wound, init?
The rich mans sin was simply being rich. Jesus was mostly against rich people...He always wanted them to sell their properties and give all to the poor.

Notice the apostles folllowed that same pattern. Everybody sold whatever they had and gave to the poor.

But today, an oyedepo or one of those charlatans would take from the poor and build schools and hotels and tell you "Job was the richestman in the east"..

SMH

Exactly my point! You're lit bro.
Let me chip in something... just my thoughts though.
Of all the men of God in this country, i respect TB Joshua; he is the definition of a true follower of Christ. He has impacted life positively; he's not a social media nor political pastor. He is overly generous and humble. And some persons still calls him fake? PATHETIC!!!
Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by Emmanystone: 1:51pm On Jan 07, 2018
Doerstech:


Poverty is not sin.....as simply as ABC....Lazarus at the gate was solely poor...and so were many Holy Men in the scripture ....so how's poverty now a sin?


The promises of the Lord are sure and Amen....if you claim them as His Child it will work for you as simply as ABCD.

2 Corinthians:8:9
For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.
Pls tell me why Christ will exchange his wealth or riches for poverty for us to be rich?
Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by irynterri(f): 1:55pm On Jan 07, 2018
Apina:

Insensitivity is not necessarily the absence of love smiley. Lazarus for example slept by his gate and ate the crumbs from his table, the question is, was Lazarus the only one around the rich man and was his going to hell based on just that? I missed something important in my first submission which is "The sin of OMISSION" which borders on what he failed to do not just for Lazarus who was just a template but also to others and from what he said to Abraham about sending Lazarus to his brothers meant they lived in a particular manner not different from the way he lived.
thanks alot, the sin of omission is the best term for it

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Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by Emmanystone: 1:58pm On Jan 07, 2018
walosky:



I dont really believe working hard makes someone to be rich.....it can only put food on your table . It's only God that gives the POWER to make WEALTH cos it doesnt matter how long you've trived ; it takes HIS GRACE AND FAVOR moreso following His steps/will
But all you just said is what makes you rich nah.

If God gives you all you just detailed out, but you sit at home allowing your Cell Phone to put you in a Cell, which keeps you unproductively busy, how will that wealth come about?

No wealthy is lazy saved of damned.

What brings wealth is all you mentioned (that's from God's side) and hardwork, diligent pursuit, being consistent, and courage which is determination(on your part). This is what egenders wealth.
Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by Nenum(m): 2:00pm On Jan 07, 2018
Apina:

Your sermon though wonderful doesn't really tell what the sin of the rich man was smiley. Most persons have argued that he didn't love Lazarus, but I don't believe that was the case, cos he allowed him stay at his gate and eat from his table even though they were leftovers.

For The rich man to have been able to identify Lazarus at the other side simply points to the fact that he knows who Lazarus is, most probably while moving in and out of his mansion could have asked about him when he saw him sitting at his gate. The Bible said he lived in luxury while Lazarus begged and had sores all over, did he ever refuse to help Lazarus? I don't think so cos if that were to be the case, Lazarus would most likely not remain at his gate cos Lazarus would need to eat to survive and would have moved on to another place where he would get food but he remained and even died there. We can actually say the rich man was generous to the beggar cos he allowed him to lay his head within his property and allowed him to feed from his table, eating the same food he ate.

The sin of the rich man wasn't that he didn't love Lazarus but was that "He Was INSENSITIVE to the plight of the beggar". The sin of insensitivity is so faint that it's almost impossible to detect, and it's everywhere, in the church, on your streets and even in the family.


What an angle... interesting
Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by Emmanystone: 2:28pm On Jan 07, 2018
pol23:
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No doubt you're well rooted in the living words.
But I cease to believe poverty is a spirit,A close friend once said "The only time He will stop serving God is when He doesn't eat anything for a whole day without him fasting" the standard prayer by Jesus teach us to request for our daily bread,not for the week...
He's the Almighty God,He gives riches to both believers and non believer.
In my own assumption,I believe the difference between a Christian and non believer will be the eternal Life...
He will bless all of us according to his riches in glory Christians and pagans, but everlasting life will be the difference.
While on earth a Christian can be poor and he will pray till forever,no answer...why:The answer is not far fetch...He said as the heaven is from the Earth ,so is thought against ours...
If you say A Christian who knows his place in the Kingdom, like i know my place in my earthly father's house, works hard, applies all the Kingdom Principles can remain poor because God's thoughts are far from ours, then, you are calling God a liar. If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.
John:15:7
[b]As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.

John:15:9

If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love
John:15:10

This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.
John:15:12

If you love God, you'd keep his Commandments which is loving God with all your heart, and might and soul and loving your nighbours as you do yoirself. Then ask anything in His name, if you dont get it, then He is a lair, which he can never be.

pol23:
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If you're a billionaire and you send your kid to go buy Razor blade from aboki down the street, the kid got there and start calling you that He wants biscuits and chocomilo...you might choose not to answer him..because there are better biscuits and chocolate at home in excess,so in just your less than 2 minutes walk from Aboki store down here,you will not die without biscuits.

A man lives a 100 years on earth is nothing compare to eternity.....
If you think I'm wrong let me know...I'm ready to learn.
Thank you.
This here got me dancing. Really.

Misplaced priorities keeps us from getting our inheritances in Christ. Let's look at the Story of the Son who who remianed at home while his brother (The pridigal Son) took his own inheritance and squandered away.

When the guy returned and their welcomed him home with a party, the first son said, to his Father, I have faithully served you, i never went against your will, but you never gave me a small goat to celibrate my birthday with my friends, but see this vagabond son of yours who had squandered your wealth, immidiately he came back, you killed tje fatest goat for him. His father said to him, look, everything here is yours, but you never asked for anything. If you had asked, you'd have received whatever you asked

That's how it is. Our Father is the owner of everthing on earth, but if you don't ask, thinking, he is my father so shd know my needs, you won't get. And if you ask stupidly with pride and arrogance, you wont get anything too.

I love you.
Re: Parable Of The Rich Man And Lazarus: What Was The Sin Of The Rich Man? by Emmanystone: 2:29pm On Jan 07, 2018
franchasng:
you spoke well but poverty is not sin. The poor must be found around us. Some poor people are righteous, likewise some rich people. How you live your life as a poor or rich person determines whether you're a sinner or not.

Pride, arrogance, envy, greed are the things God Almighty hate so much.
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