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Re: How Afonja Lost Power To Fulani In Ilorin — Kasum, Leader Of Afonja Descendants by sarrki(m): 1:03pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
ZorGBUooeh: Ay...a......d. A |
Re: How Afonja Lost Power To Fulani In Ilorin — Kasum, Leader Of Afonja Descendants by Turantula(m): 2:56pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
sarrki:Oga stop shifting d goal post nah! |
Re: How Afonja Lost Power To Fulani In Ilorin — Kasum, Leader Of Afonja Descendants by Nobody: 11:56pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
oyatz: Interesting. Then why is the emirate leadership the sole right of the Fulani? Are you saying Fulani are better Islamists than Yoruba in Ilorin and Hausa in the North? You may want to revisit your points again. |
Re: How Afonja Lost Power To Fulani In Ilorin — Kasum, Leader Of Afonja Descendants by naijaking1: 12:23am On Feb 05, 2018 |
sarrki:Well, let's ask the Emir of asaba! 1 Like |
Re: How Afonja Lost Power To Fulani In Ilorin — Kasum, Leader Of Afonja Descendants by oyatz(m): 9:24am On Feb 07, 2018 |
Very good question. 1) The Othman Dan Fodio Jihad started as a religious war against infidels or Muslims heretics/nonreligious Muslims who practiced corrupted form of Islam. 2) However, the nucleus of the Jihadist armies were Fulani (actually one very big extended family) who were adherents of this Muslim cleric/scholar, sheik Othman Dan Fodio. 3) The Fulani were a minority ethnic group, they alone couldn't wage wars to overthrow several Hausa and Ilorin kingdoms, so they recruited the local indigenous peoples into the Jihardist armies ,painting the picture as a Muslim Vs Non-muslim wars. 4) In all human struggles to effect changes, those who spear head the struggles always reap the greatest benefits of the changes, so wherever the Jihadist succeeded, they installed Fulani men as emirs and with time the position became hereditary... Theocracy always give way to monarchy. 5) To sustain their hegemony, the Fulani rely and use two weapons- Religion and cultural integration such that 6) Today, most of the Fulani ruling elites are descendants of Fulani, Hausa, Yoruba (in Ilorin) ,Nupe (in Kwara and Niger States),Kanuri ,Bolawa, Badde,Kare-Kare (in Bauchi, Yobe &Borno States), all united by the love for ISLAM! In summary, it is difficult for the local peoples to rise up against the (hybridized) Fulani emirs because they have become part of the people. In the present day Ilorin, it is very difficult to see a Fulani man who doesn't have at least a Yoruba grandparent, parent, uncles or cousins all united in ISLAM. Y0ruba: 1 Like |
Re: How Afonja Lost Power To Fulani In Ilorin — Kasum, Leader Of Afonja Descendants by Nobody: 11:04am On Feb 07, 2018 |
oyatz: LOL I see your argument isn’t for Yoruba but for Islam. Contrary to your opinion, the Fulani Jihadi struggle was not a family affair. Dan Fodio was chased out Hausa land, he went back to recruit people mostly normadic/itinerant Fulani who were not interested in settling but in sacking and looting towns. After the jihad, most of Dan Fodio’s army went back to their desert roaming. Those he gave letters to, to lord over emirates were not his relatives either but loyal soldiers. That stops there. Fulani do not rely on cultural integration. They relied on weapons/cavalry and religious brainwash. As for culture, they wipe every trace of the victim’s culture away and give them Arab culture as an identity - which they have confused for Islam. And as long as the people have lost touch with who they really are or were, they will remain tied to the Fulani who gave them the Arab culture. Hence, no resistance as can be seen in the North and slightly in Ilorin because dissidents in Ilorin get killed. The ancestral mother of the Emirs in Ilorin was a Yoruba woman. The family are all part Yoruba but it means nothing. Their alliance is with Sokoto which can be seen in the call for Sokoto flag to be mounted there and the call from military support from Sokoto which led to 16 differenr kings and their battalions being sent from Hausa land to fight Oyo. Also the Fulani rank first, followed by Hausa and then Yoruba in their palace politics and constitution. The mistake you have made is they are not necessarily united in Islam as you’ve claimed, they are all rather brainwashed. This is why an average Yoruba there thinks the Fulani and by extension even Sultan of Sokoto is a better muslim than they are which makes the Yoruba struggle to be much more Fulani in ways and lifestyles rather than be more Islam at heart. If they were united in Islam like you said there would not be Yoruba dissidents who want Emirship in their land scrapped. If they were united in Islam the Fulani would not be holding on to the throne using force. Note that the dissidence against Emirship in Ilorin is fed by the cultural identity thriving in th south which, when a Yoruba from Ilorin and Yoruba from elsewhere meets, the Yoruba from elsewhere thinks of the Ilorin Yoruba as Fulani/Hausa meanwhile the Yoruba Ilorin seems himself/herself as Yoruba but know he/she is different in ways and appearance - more like Arabs. This contact is a constant reminder of Yoruba identity and culture to the peopl of Ilorin as well as a constant reminder of Ilorin’s betrayal. For example, Islam got to Iwo before Ilorin. Iwo is a muslim town but the location makes it difficult for them to completely shed their Yoruba identity. Islam for the Iwo is a religion yes but not an identity. In Ilorin, the Fulani did NOT UNITE WITH YORUBA in ISLAM, rather they used Islam as a tool to dislodge the cultural identity of Yoruba and tried to Arabize them; the same tactic used against Hausa. Unfortunately, the Yoruba folks downsouth are a constant reminder of the religious scam and mind-fook. If you’re in doubts, another example is the Yoruba in Kogi, they have close contact with Hausa, Fulani & other northern groups but the culture and identity down here makes them yearn to return. It gives them the reminder of their reality as a disadvantaged people who are being conned into a unity using Islam & Arab culture. Cheers. 1 Like |
Re: How Afonja Lost Power To Fulani In Ilorin — Kasum, Leader Of Afonja Descendants by boluwatife66(m): 11:53am On Feb 07, 2018 |
kelechi50:Unfortunately the badluck statement was made by rev fr mbaka. Or is he an afonja too? Today the most vocal critics of buhari are yorubas. Am a pdp member but i dont comment out of hate. 1 Like |
Re: How Afonja Lost Power To Fulani In Ilorin — Kasum, Leader Of Afonja Descendants by orisa37: 9:53pm On Feb 07, 2018 |
Ilorin is a Yoruba land and Democratically so. The Yorubas should therefore come together to present a BILL to NASS to Repeal the Emirate Council and replace it with a Yoruba Traditional Monarchy. Donald Trump once said that Migration is a Privilege, not a Right. Alimi got Control of Ilorin by Fraud and Mischief. He was an ordinary Immigrant turned a fraudulent invader. Nigeria didn't fight for her Independence in 1960, so the Yorubas shouldn't bruse their Tongues for getting Ilorin back peacefully. |
Re: How Afonja Lost Power To Fulani In Ilorin — Kasum, Leader Of Afonja Descendants by orisa37: 10:14pm On Feb 07, 2018 |
A Bill jointly sponsored by The S.W State Assemblies and Traditional Rulers Council of Oduduwa land and presented to NASS should Repeal The Emirate System in Ilorin and Replace it with a Yoruba Monarchy. |
Re: How Afonja Lost Power To Fulani In Ilorin — Kasum, Leader Of Afonja Descendants by maestroferddi: 10:41pm On Feb 07, 2018 |
madridguy:Epele! |
Re: How Afonja Lost Power To Fulani In Ilorin — Kasum, Leader Of Afonja Descendants by Goke7: 11:23pm On Feb 07, 2018 |
orisa37:This is why no fulani person will support restructuring, cos they are aware that their Bleep up will finally be treated |
Re: How Afonja Lost Power To Fulani In Ilorin — Kasum, Leader Of Afonja Descendants by iLoveAnambra(m): 12:00am On Feb 08, 2018 |
sarrki:I met one girl and asked her she said dat she is an Igbo girl from Ndokwa in Delta state even Okowa dresses like an Igbo man even pass all d south east he sees himself as more igbo than someone frm Awka but Saraki nkor?? obu nwa fulani 1 Like |
Re: How Afonja Lost Power To Fulani In Ilorin — Kasum, Leader Of Afonja Descendants by orisa37: 5:06am On Feb 08, 2018 |
They are just wasting time. You can force a Horse but not to drink. You can't enslave a people for life. When The Lord or Law closes the Door, somehow, He leaves an opening. America left an opening which Obama filled. We are all still practising Genesis 16:12, but when Jesus comes, pre-structuring enters automatically. Migration is a Privilege not a Right. Restructuring is a Right not a Privilege. |
Re: How Afonja Lost Power To Fulani In Ilorin — Kasum, Leader Of Afonja Descendants by kernel504(m): 5:34am On Feb 08, 2018 |
sarrki: Hahahah... There is a distinct boundary between Asaba and Igboland, which is River Niger. Is like Libya claiming Spain because they speak same language. Geographically, They are South South, but are our brothers, you sound pained oooh!. #AfonjaLesson |
Re: How Afonja Lost Power To Fulani In Ilorin — Kasum, Leader Of Afonja Descendants by kernel504(m): 5:41am On Feb 08, 2018 |
seunmsg: A SouthWest state governed by a Fulani? Wow!. |
Re: How Afonja Lost Power To Fulani In Ilorin — Kasum, Leader Of Afonja Descendants by Nobody: 6:28am On Feb 08, 2018 |
Yoruba Muslims love their chains. See the way the man spoke...like seriously. He's a happy slave. |
Re: How Afonja Lost Power To Fulani In Ilorin — Kasum, Leader Of Afonja Descendants by hucienda: 6:36am On Feb 08, 2018 |
Y0ruba: hmmm ... great analysis. 1 Like |
Re: How Afonja Lost Power To Fulani In Ilorin — Kasum, Leader Of Afonja Descendants by Ikechuob: 6:48am On Feb 08, 2018 |
sarrki: What's this one talking about? Is south south a tribe? The ruler of Asaba is Asagba. The Asagba title have always stayed within our community. Some of you people need a brain transplabt seriously. You need a brain transplant biko. 1 Like |
Re: How Afonja Lost Power To Fulani In Ilorin — Kasum, Leader Of Afonja Descendants by Ikechuob: 6:51am On Feb 08, 2018 |
I can careless how they lost illorin. They still live in denial that illorin isn't lost so why bother getting them into reality. All i want to know is why do Afonjas get angry when called Afonja but yet we clearly see there's an Afonja group. Hypocrites dem be. Just hypocrites. I'll forever keep on calling them Afonjas. As long as this group exist, Afonja is nothing negative 2 Likes |
Re: How Afonja Lost Power To Fulani In Ilorin — Kasum, Leader Of Afonja Descendants by Ikechuob: 6:53am On Feb 08, 2018 |
OfoIgbo: False. An Agbor man is the governor. I think you meant Anioma, not Asaba |
Re: How Afonja Lost Power To Fulani In Ilorin — Kasum, Leader Of Afonja Descendants by Lipscomb(m): 9:01am On Feb 08, 2018 |
Excellent write up I read two of your comments kudos to you bro. Y0ruba: 1 Like |
Re: How Afonja Lost Power To Fulani In Ilorin — Kasum, Leader Of Afonja Descendants by oyatz(m): 10:25am On Feb 14, 2018 |
As someone who have lived and truly studied Northern societies, these are my observations: 1) The Fulanis are the ruling elites in the areas of Sokoto caliphate. 2) These elites are actually one very big extended family. I want you to read about the Sullubawa Fulani clan . Emir Ibrahim Dabo (the first Fulani emir of Kano) married Othman Dan Fodio's daughter. When Emir Abdullahi Bayero died in 1953, he was succeeded by his eldest son, Muhammadu Sanusi who was deposed in 1963 and replaced by Bayero's younger brother, Mallam Inuwa, who died 6months later and was succeeded by another of Bayero's son, Emir Ado Ibrahim Bayero who died in 2013 and was succeeded by Sanusi Lamido Sanusi, the grandson of his elder brother and his son-in-law. All the towns in Kano State have heads called Hakimis, who are either the sons, brother, cousins or nephews of the emir and are members of the emirate councils. The Alkalis (Islamic judges) ,the imam and the Waziris are blood relatives of the emir. At the advent of colonial rule, these emirate council functioned as Native authority (N.A) roughly equivalent to State Government in present day's arrangement and they were the people that determined who will be educated or not (since the Christian missionary system wasn't entrenched in the Muslim north). 3) Fast forward to 2018, the descendants of these privileged class are now President, Governors, senators, ministers, top military and police Brass's etc 4) The Fulanis are a minority ethnic group and there is no Local government or State in Nigeria where the Fulani are in majority, have ever sat down to find out how they are able to become the most sophisticated power brokers in this country?. .by using Islam to forge many numerous tribes together to form the largest empire in Nigeria, the Sokoto caliphate. 5) You can accuse the Fulanis of anything but there are not foolish. How can you think the Fulanis will spearheaded a religious war (Jihad) and handover power to other peoples? Those who propagate religions or any socio- political changes benefit from such and it amaze me that you think the Fulanis will be different. Y0ruba: |
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