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Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by tintingz(m): 4:00pm On Feb 15, 2018 |
budaatum:I never talked about "perfectedness" or "perfection", my argument is based on what's natural in this our natural world. Like I said in my very previous post, I said natural is not a must to be positive, there are negative things that are also natural. |
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by butterflyl1on: 4:01pm On Feb 15, 2018 |
tintingz: Here comes the red herring You were originally not talking about observation. You were talking about the act of homosexuality. Here is your quote If Homosexuals is not natural, it shouldn't exist in the first place Flipping your whole flawed story telling on its head. Is Nigeria observable in this our natural world? Yes Is nairaland observable in this our natural world? Yes So based on this nairaland is natural and was not influenced or chosen to exist by anyone. It just arrived as Nigeria and nairaland. Yet you claim homosexuals are born that way despite it being natural as you claim. I know I am confusing you right now because you have totally lost your plot and simply doing this [img]https://media1./images/b1cc2c1339cbb94ace1d89bbc92bed38/tenor.gif?itemid=5345081[/img] 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by budaatum: 4:01pm On Feb 15, 2018 |
butterflyl1on:According to his senses, he has not made one. And vaxx is dealing with him. It is by the way one of vaxx's virtues to patiently dig these things out. Asking seun to provide evidence for his existence, and treating his existence like that of god, is a grave error, and comical at the least. |
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by butterflyl1on: 4:02pm On Feb 15, 2018 |
tintingz: So this means death (which by the way is natural according to you because it is naturally observable) has positive sides right? 1 Like |
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by vaxx: 4:04pm On Feb 15, 2018 |
budaatum:I think s.hen case is just to play some mental gymnastic..... butter actually knows he exist.... |
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by butterflyl1on: 4:09pm On Feb 15, 2018 |
Hello tintingz my question dey hang o So this means death (which by the way is natural according to you because it is naturally observable) has positive sides right? 1 Like |
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by budaatum: 4:10pm On Feb 15, 2018 |
tintingz:I know, and agree. But their argument is of "existence by nature", and not its negativity or positivity (though, it was butter who brought in the idea that nature is positive, which led to the red heron they handed you). Clouds would be natural, the rain would be natural, tsunamis would be natural, but am I natural, as in do I exist by nature? (That's perhaps a tricky one). Does a car exist by nature? Does a website exist by nature? As to whether my sexuality is by nature is of a different order however. As mentioned, the jury is out on whether I chose or was born to prefer certain people. |
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by tintingz(m): 4:12pm On Feb 15, 2018 |
butterflyl1on:The forum Nairaland was created, the name Nigeria was created, the psychological influence behind this was NATURAL! Why are you on Nairaland or any other social media? Where did I said Homosexuality is perfectly Natural? Where did I talked about perfection? Didn't I talked about "positive and negative" How many Natural Phenomena has answer to what caused it? All? I'm yet to see the Flaws! |
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by OkCornel(m): 4:18pm On Feb 15, 2018 |
budaatum: So what value does homosexuality add to the system? Does the benefits (if any) outweigh the demerits? |
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by tintingz(m): 4:19pm On Feb 15, 2018 |
vaxx:The necessity to invent a laptop is observable and Natural. We are not talking about invented things oga. |
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by vaxx: 4:22pm On Feb 15, 2018 |
tintingz:so what are we talking about? you will flawed again as usual... 2 Likes |
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by butterflyl1on: 4:23pm On Feb 15, 2018 |
[ quote author=tintingz post=65091857] The forum Nairaland was created, the name Nigeria was created, the psychological influence behind this was NATURAL! This was not your original position. I can see you are trying very hard to pick up your broken pieces Let me even show you more of your flaws. You claim Nigeria was created right? To create means to cause to come into being, as something unique that would not naturally evolve or that is not made by ordinary processes. 2. to evolve from one's own thought or imagination, as a work of art or an invention. Note the words in bold. Remember you said homosexuals ARE BORN THAT WAY? Yet even your own words here betray you. This means homosexuals are not born that way but are rather CAUSED to become so or EVOLVED FROM THEIR OWN THOUGHT OR IMAGINATION. You have finally killed yourself by yourself Why are you on Nairaland or any other social media? I am on nairaland BECAUSE I CHOSE TO BE HERE. My recognition of nairaland and owning an account here and being called a nairalander or in the case of the discussion (a homosexual) was by choice. Where did I said Homosexuality is perfectly Natural? You said homosexuality is natural. And this means there is no hint of anything else in it so it is simply natural so this means it is perfectly natural not based on good but based on source. How many Natural Phenomena has answer to what caused it? All? But you said science isn't limited so why don't you answer this question yourself I'm yet to see the Flaws! I just showed you and if you still cannot see them then get an eye transplant. 2 Likes |
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by butterflyl1on: 4:24pm On Feb 15, 2018 |
vaxx: The guy is beyond confused at this point 2 Likes |
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by tintingz(m): 4:25pm On Feb 15, 2018 |
budaatum:Then was Homosexuality invented, was the pleasure invented? Study even shows some people born in strictly heterosexual community are Homosexuals e.g Saudi Arabia. |
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by vaxx: 4:25pm On Feb 15, 2018 |
butterflyl1on:he is just unnecessarily arrogant . he does not want to accept that he is wrong..... 1 Like |
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by butterflyl1on: 4:28pm On Feb 15, 2018 |
tintingz: Study also shows that people born into absolutely loving and caring families still can turn out to be rapists or serial killers so does that make their case natural? Were they born that way? Is a thief born that way? Is a liar born that way? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by tintingz(m): 4:29pm On Feb 15, 2018 |
vaxx:So how is Homosexuality invented? I'm yet to get the flaws. You're talking about invented things, my argument is about Homosexuality, what can be observe in natures. |
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by butterflyl1on: 4:31pm On Feb 15, 2018 |
tintingz: He is talking about existing things and not invented things. You talked about existing things. Then you later tried to switch to naturally oberserved things so he made reference to his laptop afterall it too is naturally observed so it must be natural. Do you see why I say you are in a pool of confusion right now 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by vaxx: 4:34pm On Feb 15, 2018 |
tintingz:that premises is on you to defend. you call it natural. don't you? please defend it first? 1 Like |
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by budaatum: 4:34pm On Feb 15, 2018 |
OkCornel:To the system? What system? My private system perhaps? My god worship is part of my system. The benefits, or and demerits are part of my system. Or am I dubiously overlooking where I invited you into my system? Did I ask you to bend over and worship my god? Please remind me if I did so that I can offer my most sincere apologies for expanding my system to include you in it. I will also by force have to respond to your question. I promise. Otherwise, I do not have to show you the value of my worshipping. What I do with my right hand is of no business to those of you on the left! |
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by OkCornel(m): 4:42pm On Feb 15, 2018 |
budaatum: I am not talking of god or religion here. Just educate us on the benefits of homosexuality...and the benefits (if any) outweighs the cost... 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by tintingz(m): 4:42pm On Feb 15, 2018 |
butterflyl1on:My position is about nature/Natural things. E.g Homosexuality Did you see with your butt? I said the "name" Nigeria was created, there are already communities living in that region before the colonials came, what came up with the community is natural. Where? you must be deluded. You register on Nairaland because you want to socialize, that's the main reason we are all here, it's natural for us. There's no hint on Homosexuality and we're arguing about it? SMH Please transfer your eyes from your butt to the right place, thank you. |
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by 1Sharon(f): 4:46pm On Feb 15, 2018 |
Emmanystone: Seriously ? |
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by tintingz(m): 4:47pm On Feb 15, 2018 |
butterflyl1on:Humans are naturally cruel, greedy etc. Even from the Bible(OT) we can see Yahweh ordering his foot zombies to be cruel to another nation. You're looking at the positive side of what's Natural and not the negative side. |
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by OkCornel(m): 4:48pm On Feb 15, 2018 |
tintingz: Per the bolded, let's look at it this way. Having sexual urge is natural, but going to rape a donkey because of sexual urge...is it natural? NOPE...same goes for homosexuality... If the purpose of something is known...but yet is abused, then it's not ignorance...but madness (I'm not insulting you ooo, just my thoughts) Feels like using a toothbrush to comb one's hair... 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by budaatum: 4:48pm On Feb 15, 2018 |
tintingz:This is off-point, but perhaps it may help. Saudi Arabia is not a "strictly heterosexual community". The lack of opportunity for its citizens to express themselves sexually with women has caused some to express homosexually. The syndrome is like one found in prisons where the deficiency in other gender people creates an environment for same gender sexual expression. Essentially, homosexuality, in such societies, is a social construct. It is necessitated by the lack of alternatives in the society. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by OkCornel(m): 4:49pm On Feb 15, 2018 |
tintingz: Read the Bible...were those nations willing to even peacefully accomodate the "foot zombies" you spoke of? |
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by tintingz(m): 4:49pm On Feb 15, 2018 |
vaxx:Homosexuality is natural because it was not invented by humans, so tell me how it's not Natural. |
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by OkCornel(m): 4:52pm On Feb 15, 2018 |
tintingz: Sexual urge is natural...same goes for your sexual organs... But there are natural and likewise...perversed ways to satisfy this urge... You can sleep with a woman to satisfy your sexual urge as designed by nature...which is natural OR you can go ahead to sleep with a fellow man or rape a goat...BUT please don't tell me this is natural... 2 Likes |
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by tintingz(m): 4:52pm On Feb 15, 2018 |
OkCornel:Is it not Natural to protect your community from intruders? Don't forget the period this happened in your Bible. |
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by OkCornel(m): 4:54pm On Feb 15, 2018 |
tintingz: Great...so you relocate from your natural home only to get back and find strangers living there and calling you the intruder right? Quite interesting I must say... So you were saying something about homosexuality being natural... |
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by 1Sharon(f): 4:54pm On Feb 15, 2018 |
Checkmate atheists 1 Like
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