pazienza:


The elites are no issue.
Igbo elites had all agreed on secession in 1967, it wasn't the elites of other regions that stopped that, it was the commoners who enrolled into the army in mass to stop that.

Even if the SE elites all unite today, and push for Biafra, it wouldn't stop Nigerian government to send troops to our region again, with active support of mischievous elements again.

The elites don't fight Wars, they need commoners to do the fighting. They need public opinion support to push on agenda.

Igbo commoners are the ones pushing for referendum today, and they are paying for it in blood.

Nigerian commoners are the ones on the sidelines cheering the Nigerian security agents crack down on them and even calling for more brutality to be meted.
This is the reality we face today.

If other commoners from other parts of Nigeria are actively calling and protesting for Nigerian dissolution like Igbo commoners are doing, Nigeria would be overwhelmed and the elites would have no option.

Stingman:


There is nothing to discuss any further...The representatives are skewed to favout the north by the military...

So definitely, you don't expect to get anything from NASS because of the numbers.

We need to revert back to regional autonomy as used by our founding fathers.

omooba969:


I hope you still remember who abolished the regional autonomy & initiated the unitary system of govt.

pazienza:
"Biafra is a good cause started by Ojukwu but any lazy igbo that wants to be popular will just hijack it and become popular because of the legitimate sentiment behind it. I have said it amny times on this forum that kanu did not want biafra but they will call me names".

The truth is that mischievous Nigerians like you, never accepted that Ojukwu cause was good. You criticized his methods, you criticized Uwazuruike methods, you criticized Billie movement methods, and you are currently criticizing Kanu methods.

Not that I subscribe to Kanu methods whoheartedly, I have issues with the poly lingual Biafra he was championing, being an Igbo nationalist myself, I favoured an Igbo speaking only country.
But I'm not too blind to know that the problem Nigerians had with Kanu, was the same problem they had with Ojukwu and Uwazuruike, that made them hate both men with demonic hatred, it was never about methods, because the three men chose three different methods, and in each case, it ended in hate for them and by extension Ndiigbo, with open massacre of Ndiigbo by Nigerian Army and police, with Nigerians cheering on.

They would have accepted Ojukwu and Uwazuruike methods that at no time, spoke ill of Nigerians if it were all down to Kanu uncouth language, as these mischievous fellows are currently propagating.

The problem you lots have is Biafra actualization . It doesn't matter what method any one choose to champion it, you lots would always hate the person and find reasons to justify your hate.

omooba969:


You can't achieve anything with this kinda notion.

horsepower101:


These people are delusional. They want the rest of Nigerians to conduct referendum with Biafrans. The way Nigerians reason defies logic.

Stingman:


...do you remember who merged the north and the south?

benben1000:


Afonjas...always focusing on Igbo's light skin out of envy. Even when they post pigs, the use light skin pigs...LOL.

Stingman:


What notion do you want to use to achieve anything...?

The SEDC was shut down at NASS but the NEDC was approved...Does that make any sense to you?

omooba969:


When you guys are grabbed by your balls, all you do is...

Stingman:


What notion do you want to use to achieve anything...?

The SEDC was shut down at NASS but the NEDC was approved...Does that make any sense to you?

Stingman:


You guys simply believe Nigeria started in 1960.

What a shame...

Think, think man!!

blazhykowskyi:


You can't achieve anything if you don't try. SEDC could still be raised and passed if you play the right politics. That's not the end. Referendum will not be achieved in a day. It will take sometime. But the motion must be raised for it to have any chance. The NEDC wouldn't be achieved also if the south didn't support it. No region can achieve anything without the other. Igbo legislatures supported NEDC. They could have used it as a bargaining chip.

pazienza:

Igbo commoners and other ethnic commoners have different priorities.

We can atleast agree on this.

Igbo commoners priority is to see to dissolution of Nigeria

Nigerian commoners priority is to antagonize anyone who seeks to dissolve Nigeria.


Both Igbo and Nigerian elites are united in the agenda to keep Nigeria, their cash cow, united for obvious reasons.

pazienza:

Igbo commoners and other ethnic commoners have different priorities.

We can atleast agree on this.

Igbo commoners priority is to see to dissolution of Nigeria

Nigerian commoners priority is to antagonize anyone who seeks to dissolve Nigeria.


Both Igbo and Nigerian elites are united in the agenda to keep Nigeria, their cash cow, united for obvious reasons.

omooba969:


Who's talking about when Nigeria started?

You're not even facing the discourse...SMH

omooba969:


Who's talking about when Nigeria started?

You're not even facing the discourse...SMH

Stingman:


So the Igbo legistlators told you they didn't use it.

If you think this country would work after the merging of the north and the south 100 years ago..then you must be out of your mind..

"..Anyone who thinks Nigeria can stick together is either a fool or an enemy of the country.." Olu Falae

blazhykowskyi:


At least you can see that Yoruba don't believe that Nigeria can work with this formula.

Ikpeazu even said you want Nigeria than we want it.

Stingman:


Why bring the man who introduced the unitary system...when it can be reversed more than 50 years later.

Like the man who merged the north and the south...Did the unitray man told you loud mouths not to change it to what would be good to everyone?

You talk from both sides of your mouth...

Stingman:


I repeat, before you say it is diversionary...when you will bring up who introduced unitary government.

We need to revert to regional government agreed by the founding fathers...

omooba969:


That's THE TRUTH you're running away from.

Do you recognise that dude?

You igbozzz...ehn !

blazhykowskyi:


I don't want to go into that argument. Some say it is ironsi while others say it is gowon.

Stingman:


Go back to the discourse and see that my reponses are appropraite...No diversion.

omooba969:


The gist is about referendum, whether it's supposed to hold amongst Nigerians or amongst Igbos only.

I believe it (final referendum) should hold amongst Igbos only after all relevant exercises(such as debates & consultations) have been exhausted.

And you can leave the NASS out of the equation.

What you need is to ask God for a sound mind so you can have a sound thought process in difficult or complex situations.

greiboy:

I can understand from your reply that you need to develop your thinking and move away from dirty mindset yourself.

You should know that Kanu had a great deal of resources and outlet before the crackdown that simply disappeared with him. You should as well remember the politicians that paid for his bail are now quiet.

I bet you also forgot how certain politicians like urge uzor kalu among others saw him in prison and also visited his family.

Why have they all gone quiet now, Why aren't they singing anything about Biafra again. At least, ipob was prescribed not Biafra. They have all redirected their efforts to Igbo VP or president in the succeeding election

Who is fooling who here?

Stingman:


I don't care who change it..

The fact remains that it is not working...for 50 years...

We need to revert to what our founding fathers agreed on...

Stingman:


...but God has already blessed you with sound thought process in Nigeria difficult situation...but behold this is what you are able to show in this modern era...in a state with N1.03 trillion budget..

Ogbeni always watch your big mouth...on who you can insult...

horsepower101:


I hate when they keep repeating the same old lies of going through the National Assembly when they clearly know that the north hold the majority. Nnamdi open call for referendum was the best option.

Nnamdi Kanu laughed at south east reps when they could even pass the south east development commission.

Stingman:


Yes I do...

Do you recongnize this man...?