SmartMugu:
Don't be surprised if FRZ makes it to heaven and some of these so-called pastors end up in hell.

I would be surprised if he makes it to heaven (though I'm not in a better position to judge) because I know for sure heaven is against WOMAN BEATERS, FORNICATORS etc

Yankee101:
You do not understand branding then.

That signboard is targeted at non christians or non committed christians.

The first sign of any religious word will turn them off automatically. But immediately you walk into house on the rock, it is all about Jesus. But the idea is to draw you in with dazzle.

Go and study Marketing 101 and stop running your mouth because you gained relevance by critisizing church tithe.

Say no more sir!, u've said it all!!.

traeces:
This guy is always criticizing and insulting pastors over everything, yet he abused and drove out his wife and children and is living with another man's wife. These are only a few of the many unchristlike things about him so I wonder where he gets his moral justification from.

and all the pastors he criticizes are above sin abi

On first look, i thought it was an MTN advert

traeces:
This guy is always criticizing and insulting pastors over everything, yet he abused and drove out his wife and children and is living with another man's wife. These are only a few of the many unchristlike things about him so I wonder where he gets his moral justification from.

He does not claim to b a Christian, so u can pardon his un Christ like attitude. But how do u qualify the un christ like attitude of professed man of God??

Could he b a thorn in d flesh for d Church??
If he is, then d Church should stop focusing on d thorn, and start focusing on God...... Coz t was on that singular reason that God gave Paul a thorn in the flesh.

I am not a fan of DF, but on this, he is spot on. The gospel of the Kingdom is not Marketing 101. It is strictly JESUS CHRIST, the cross and the ressurection power. Anything outside this is self-help. Jesus said when we lift him up, he will draw men to himself. How many Professional Marketing course did Peter went when over 3000 souls gave their life in just one day. May the Lord help His church.

Nigerians are seriously gullible. unch of idiots. many of you will continue to advocate for all these people until you actually miss heaven. You should know your God and the God you serve.

This guy is making a very valid point here....get the message well.The guy brain sharp oooooooo

Yankee101:
You do not understand branding then.

That signboard is targeted at non christians or non committed christians.

The first sign of any religious word will turn them off automatically. But immediately you walk into house on the rock, it is all about Jesus. But the idea is to draw you in with dazzle.

Go and study Marketing 101 and stop running your mouth because you gained relevance by critisizing church tithe.

U may be right, not everyone has an understanding of branding and marketing.
I'm very sure neither did Jesus nor his disciples have an understanding of branding and marketing either, well based on scripture, Jesus was never branded, his disciples/apostles never dazzled d people. And religious words were not used either. Rather d Spirit brought conviction and repentance

So if a Pastor is using a method Foreign to Jesus whom he preaches
Foreign to Jesus disciples and foreign to the Bible, what should we do??
Keep quiet??
Applaud?? or
Correct??

Accept he truly repents, he will have his place in hell fire.

SmartMugu:
Don't be surprised if FRZ makes it to heaven and some of these so-called pastors end up in hell.

TWoods:


When did Jesus become about branding? When something no longer has the power to convict, the power to heal, the power to raise the dead, essentially the power of the Holy Ghost, it resorts to gimmicks like branding. Shame.

As from this day on, may Light never depart from your household. May God bless you abundantly.

kanayo76:
Accept he truly repents, he will have his place in hell fire.

Repent from what? Repent from preaching the Good News? Did you check Freeze's message at all? Tell me what exactly is wrong with what he wrote up there

obentenyson:
as much as I dislike daddy G.O freeze, the idiot is actually right on this one... Na churches like this dey give christianity bad name and make dead brain people like daddy freeze criticize and generalize the Whole issue... As if there are no good churches out there...

Mention just one of the good churches? Just one?

Sikiratu:



U may be right, not everyone has an understanding of branding and marketing.
I'm very sure neither did Jesus nor his disciples have an understanding of branding and marketing either, well based on scripture, Jesus was never branded, his disciples/apostles never dazzled d people. And religious words were not used either. Rather d Spirit brought conviction and repentance

So if a Pastor is using a method Foreign to Jesus whom he preaches
Foreign to Jesus disciples and foreign to the Bible, what should we do??
Keep quiet??
Applaud?? or
Correct??

I am just tired of these Christians. Their ears are nailed up and only Christ can save them from the wolves that call themselves pastors.

Even if the Early Christians had an excuse about the limitations of the truth in the hands of the apostles, what excuse do today's Christians have? The Bible can be purchased easily today and many of them even have Bibles and yet they fail to show themselves approved. It's just a pity.

nwaanambra1:



if after reading freeze's comment and you still went ahead and type this rubbish, then i can boldly say you have minus zero IQ hence the reason why you don't even know what IQ means.

I don't need IQ wen i hv d A & EQ and i bet, u and all ur sheeples don't know or hv them.

Freeze do me a favor...jus shut up!

I wonder what would have you think/imagine that it's the bill/sign board that will get people interested in coming to church or to God [sup][/sup]. So you believe subtly deceiving people by replacing the Message with
more social/world friendly words will not turn them even more off when they arrive at your church and hear all the "christianese".

Go read your Bible and see if any worldly marketing strategy was used to preach the gospel. It is pure undiluted gospel with total trust and reliance on God to bring the converts. These are spiritual things not some carnal wordly thing that require worldly strategy/approach.

Going by your "marketing 101" theory and strategy, the pastor's name and picture have no business on the board�.

Yankee101:
You do not understand branding then.

That signboard is targeted at non christians or non committed christians.

The first sign of any religious word will turn them off automatically. But immediately you walk into house on the rock, it is all about Jesus. But the idea is to draw you in with dazzle.

Go and study Marketing 101 and stop running your mouth because you gained relevance by critisizing church tithe.

kachi19:
Well, i think these days this freezer's I.Q is getting reduced. I wonder why!!

What did he say there that shows his IQ is low or reducing.

Continue to criticize.You will soon be expired!

Topics on FRZ and Christianity be trending like NNPC job advert. Make I dey de read comments.

For me I stand with him.if u love Christianity pls dis is d time to separate the thieves from the church of God.Jesus did same during his visit to d temple

And this is your interpretation of the scripture quoted? Try again

StackNerd:


Like seriously! Marketing for Jesus right??


If I be lifted up, I will draw all men unto me John 12:32.
Jesus never gave us any wordly way of bringing men to him.

Please note: I am not criticizing HOTR .

JAZES:


Lol...so u go about asking MTN or other brands what is the message they are trying to pass across on a
billboard?
If what you are preaching is Christ and his church that he bought with his own precious blood, then it should be obvious to even a blind man. Please lest focus on the message Freeze is trying to pass across here cos he is on 100% right on this one.

Your point is clear but Freeze being 100% right on the statement made doesn't mean he is right in line with the advert.

For example, a keyword used 'learn' means what to you? What are they to learn? Is it about the Pastor, the church, or politics?

This is my point - Freeze should have asked to know more than criticizing.

U are advising a fellow to do same thing you are doing which makes your understanding of the scripture imbalance, you have successfully been reading the Bible, endeavour to study the scripture instead of reading. Actually, the command is "Meditate therein day and night". Can show you where branding, worldly marketing strategy WERE used not to preach the Gospel but to catch and draw the hearts of men before preaching then took place in the Bible.

bayusch246:
I wonder what would have you think/imagine that it's the bill/sign board that will get people interested in coming to church or to God [sup][/sup]. So you believe subtly deceiving people by replacing the Message with
more social/world friendly words will not turn them even more off when they arrive at your church and hear all the "christianese".

Go read your Bible and see if any worldly marketing strategy was used to preach the gospel. It is pure undiluted gospel with total trust and reliance on God to bring the converts. These are spiritual things not some carnal wordly thing that require worldly strategy/approach.

Going by your "marketing 101" theory and strategy, the pastor's name and picture have no business on the board�.

Bro, what drew the attention of the souls who got saved under peter's preaching? Attention firstly got drawn, I want you to go back and study this same scriptural verse you just quoted.
Ask yourself, what drew the attention of over 3000 souls to a spot? What brought them? What made them glued to that spot?. God bless

treasure2:
I am not a fan of DF, but on this, he is spot on. The gospel of the Kingdom is not Marketing 101. It is strictly JESUS CHRIST, the cross and the ressurection power. Anything outside this is self-help. Jesus said when we lift him up, he will draw men to himself. How many Professional Marketing course did Peter went when over 3000 souls gave their life in just one day. May the Lord help His church.

Sikiratu:



U may be right, not everyone has an understanding of branding and marketing.
I'm very sure neither did Jesus nor his disciples have an understanding of branding and marketing either, well based on scripture, Jesus was never branded, his disciples/apostles never dazzled d people. And religious words were not used either. Rather d Spirit brought conviction and repentance

So if a Pastor is using a method Foreign to Jesus whom he preaches
Foreign to Jesus disciples and foreign to the
Bible, what should we do??
Keep quiet??
Applaud?? or
Correct??

mature respond. precise, concise and timely. God bless you. though i have chose not to throw aspersions on church which i belong to, but the veil of deceit covering so many church members of various church will taken away when this words of the lord is fulfilled " And they shall not teach every man his neighbor, and every man his brothers, saying know the Lord. For all shall know me, from the least to the greatest" Heb 8:11

Sikiratu:


He does not claim to b a Christian, so u can pardon his un Christ like attitude. But how do u qualify the un christ like attitude of professed man of God??

Could he b a thorn in d flesh for d Church??
If he is, then d Church should stop focusing on d thorn, and start focusing on God...... Coz t was on that singular reason that God gave Paul a thorn in the flesh.

FRZ will beg to disagree with you if you hold that he does not claim to be a Christian because even in this his post, he states; "We are the #FreeNation in Christ, unlike many other ‘brands’ we are not ashamed to identify with Jesus! ~FRZ"

This is what most people don't know. Different offices in the body of Christ, same Lord, same Spirit but different administrations. The billboard is just like churches having wristbands. You can decide to advertise and relate with and to people with the contents on your wristbands or preach with it, your decision. Wisdom is of course the principal thing

fabre4:



the bolded lies your answer. this is an advertisements not preaching understand the difference simple. if u think u know all why dont you start your own church and lets see how well you do

A man that fights men of God and the church is an anti-christ. Very soon Jesus will blind this unbeliever's eyes for fighting his body. Am not saying that men of God are perfect, in fact some of them do some things that want to make me question if they are real but, thank God i never did, common, refrain from judging and condemning MOG, God never made you a judge over them. In all the weaknesses, trials and failures of the church, the church still remain the church and body of Jesus Christ, and only him has the power to judge his church and he does not make anyone a judge over his servant.

Baba, this scripture you just quoted would have made more sense if you would release the full content of it from the beginning and justify it's importance to this discussion. I have a thing with quoting scripture out of context. God bless

bjnice:


mature respond. precise, concise and timely. God bless you. though i have chose not to throw aspersions on church which i belong to, but the veil of deceit covering so many church members of various church will taken away when this words of the lord is fulfilled " And they shall not teach every man his neighbor, and every man his brothers, saying know the Lord. For all shall know me, from the least to the greatest" Heb 8:11

traeces:


FRZ will beg to disagree with you if you hold that he does not claim to be a Christian because even in this his post, he states; "We are the #FreeNation in Christ, unlike many other ‘brands’ we are not ashamed to identify with Jesus! ~FRZ"

It doesn't mean that he is a Christian. I love Jesus Christ and I am not ashamed to identify with Him and yet I hate being labeled a Christian.

BluntBoy:


It doesn't mean that he is a Christian. I love Jesus Christ and I am not ashamed to identify with Him and yet I hate being labeled a Christian.

You can either choose both or none,yet not in between, would you embrace being rather labelled a muslim? From the name Christ was the word "christian" conjured!