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Saturday Sabbath To Sunday Worship;were Christians Right On This? by valentineuwakwe(m): 10:44pm On Mar 03, 2018
Hello,
Happy weekend to you all....please I need to ask this question and i need sincere answers and comments. we were told the original Sabbath day was Saturday but the early Christians after Christ resurrection change the Saturday Sabbath to Sunday worship, were they right or wrong in doing this act?
Re: Saturday Sabbath To Sunday Worship;were Christians Right On This? by shadeyinka(m): 11:51pm On Mar 03, 2018
Christians are no bound by the rules of Judaism like circumcision, washing of hands etc.

Sunday isn't even special for Christians.

In Saudi Arabia, Christians don't worship on Sundays but on Fridays. Are they hell bound?

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Re: Saturday Sabbath To Sunday Worship;were Christians Right On This? by Ubenedictus(m): 12:06am On Mar 04, 2018
valentineuwakwe:
Hello,
Happy weekend to you all....please I need to ask this question and i need sincere answers and comments. we were told the original Sabbath day was Saturday but the early Christians after Christ resurrection change the Saturday Sabbath to Sunday worship, were they right or wrong in doing this act?
on what authority do we judge the early Church?
Re: Saturday Sabbath To Sunday Worship;were Christians Right On This? by Ubenedictus(m): 12:09am On Mar 04, 2018
shadeyinka:
Christians are no bound by the rules of Judaism like circumcision, washing of hands etc.

Sunday isn't even special for Christians.

In Saudi Arabia, Christians don't worship on Sundays but on Fridays. Are they hell bound?
Christian in Saudi don't worship on Fridays
Re: Saturday Sabbath To Sunday Worship;were Christians Right On This? by Nobody: 1:14am On Mar 04, 2018
I really don't know what to add... but I know that Some churches still worship on Saturdays.
Re: Saturday Sabbath To Sunday Worship;were Christians Right On This? by Nobody: 1:51am On Mar 04, 2018
It was part of the law(4th commandment) of Moses that Sabbath day(Saturday) be observed as a day of worship. Even Jesus went to the synanagogue to worship on Saturday. Later, Constantine had to change the day from Saturday to Sunday. So officially it became Sunday but originally Saturday.
However, the worship of God now has nothing to do with the day or place rather it has everything to do with the heart because God desires that personal relationship. So he that feels Saturday is good for him should go ahead, same with the man who chooses Sunday. It is not a prerequisite for salvation nor a condition for making heaven. It is a matter of choice.
So the question of being right or wrong depends solely on you. If you see it from the perspective of the law, then you are in for a long walk with the law but if you come from Grace, then the difference is the taste.

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Re: Saturday Sabbath To Sunday Worship;were Christians Right On This? by congorasta: 3:09am On Mar 04, 2018
princeking2:
It was part of the law(4th commandment) of Moses that Sabbath day(Saturday) be observed as a day of worship. Even Jesus went to the synanagogue to worship on Saturday. Later, Constantine had to change the day from Saturday to Sunday. So officially it became Sunday but originally Saturday.
However, the worship of God now has nothing to do with the day or place rather it has everything to do with the heart because God desires that personal relationship. So he that feels Saturday is good for him should go ahead, same with the man who chooses Sunday. It is not a prerequisite for salvation nor a condition for making heaven. It is a matter of choice.
So the question of being right or wrong depends solely on you. If you see it from the perspective of the law, then you are in for a long walk with the law but if you come from Grace, then the difference is the taste.



law and grace indeed..
we tend to choose either of them when suitable for our arguments.
Re: Saturday Sabbath To Sunday Worship;were Christians Right On This? by Liliyann(f): 5:48am On Mar 04, 2018
Saturday or Sundays makes little or no difference
God does not care about the days.
What matters is your heart of praise and thanksgiving.

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Re: Saturday Sabbath To Sunday Worship;were Christians Right On This? by lonikit: 6:25am On Mar 04, 2018
Liliyann:
Saturday or Sundays makes little or no difference
God does not care about the days.
What matters is your heart of praise and thanksgiving.

read ur bible very well. God emphasized Sabbath day more 100 times in the bible and there are serious punishment for profaning it. punishment like death.

to the thread; I tink the reasons are:
1. culture has been rated above the law.
2. we are now in the era of grace bcus Paul said Christians shud not be judged regarding food or Sabbath.
Re: Saturday Sabbath To Sunday Worship;were Christians Right On This? by lonikit: 6:27am On Mar 04, 2018
shadeyinka:
Christians are no bound by the rules of Judaism like circumcision, washing of hands etc.

Sunday isn't even special for Christians.

In Saudi Arabia, Christians don't worship on Sundays but on Fridays. Are they hell bound?

our Jesus and all his apostles worshipped in synagogue on Sabbath. Judaism doesn't affect the sabbath bcus Christ practised it.
Re: Saturday Sabbath To Sunday Worship;were Christians Right On This? by shadeyinka(m): 9:54am On Mar 04, 2018
lonikit:


our Jesus and all his apostles worshipped in synagogue on Sabbath. Judaism doesn't affect the sabbath bcus Christ practised it.
You forget that initially Christians would have observed BOTH the Sabbath in the Synagogue (for those who were Jews) AND the First day of the week until the Persecution became so severe that worship took place mainly on the First day of the week. Apart from that, worship normally (initially took place in the evenings) after the sabbath.

Initially before Persecution of the Jews:

Act 13:42
Blessing and Conflict at AntiochSo when the Jews went out of the synagogue, the Gentiles begged that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath.

Act 18:4
And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded both Jews and Greeks.

After persecution arose from the Jews:
Jn 20:19
The Apostles CommissionedThen, the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled, for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood in the midst, and said to them, “Peace be with you.”

Act 20:7
Ministering at TroasNow on the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul, ready to depart the next day, spoke to them and continued his message until midnight.

1Co 16:2
On the first day of the week let each one of you lay something aside, storing up as he may prosper, that there be no collections when I come.

In conclusion or summary of the Christian position on days and Jewish rituals:

Col 2:11
Not Legalism but ChristIn Him you were also circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the sins of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ,

Heb 9:11
The Heavenly SanctuaryBut Christ came as High Priest of the good things to come, with the greater and more perfect tabernacle not made with hands, that is, not of this creation.

Rom1:14
I know and am convinced by the Lord Jesus that there is nothing unclean of itself; but to him who considers anything to be unclean, to him it is unclean. Yet if your brother is grieved because of your food, you are no longer walking in love. Do not destroy with your food the one for whom Christ

Col2:16-
So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ

Shalom.
Happy Sunday
Re: Saturday Sabbath To Sunday Worship;were Christians Right On This? by lonikit: 10:12am On Mar 04, 2018
shadeyinka:

You forget that initially Christians would have observed BOTH the Sabbath in the Synagogue (for those who were Jews) AND the First day of the week until the Persecution became so severe that worship took place mainly on the First day of the week. Apart from that, worship normally (initially took place in the evenings) after the sabbath.

Initially before Persecution of the Jews:


After persecution arose from the Jews:


In conclusion or summary of the Christian position on days and Jewish rituals:


Shalom.
Happy Sunday
my bro. u quoted act as bfr persecution and john to be after persecution. which one came first. its obvious they observe the day even in the new testament.

my opinion here is that the reason for change in days can be linked to grace as seen In the epistles of Paul... sabbath is quite different from other services. if you study the bible.
yes, other services were observed in other days in the old testament as well. but sabbath is a sacred day that is declared holy by God himself. that doesn't mean fellowship services as seen in the new testament can't be observed in other days. infact, after the ascension of christ, disciples were in one place fellowshipping almost every day but stil dat didn't stop them from observing the sabbath.

happy Sunday sir
Re: Saturday Sabbath To Sunday Worship;were Christians Right On This? by shadeyinka(m): 10:55am On Mar 04, 2018
Ubenedictus:
Christian in Saudi don't worship on Fridays
Opening Hours and Days
The Saudi working week begins on Sunday and ends on Thursday. Friday and Saturday are the official days of rest, but in certain cases Saturday might be considered as a working day. Office hours tend to be from 9:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. and from 4:30 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. (from 8:00 p.m. to 1:00 a.m. during Ramadan), with some regional variation.

https://www.nordeatrade.com/se/explore-new-market/saudi-arabia/opening-hours

Because of this, Christians in Saudi Arabia meet either on Friday or Saturday.

Also, no church is officially recognized in Saudi Arabi , you can't even build a church except in the embassies or in private homes and facilities.


Since you are Catholic, please read
Catholic Church in Saudi Arabia is officially barred from being practiced, though Catholics are allowed into the country for temporary work.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_in_Saudi_Arabia

Happy Sunday
Re: Saturday Sabbath To Sunday Worship;were Christians Right On This? by shadeyinka(m): 11:05am On Mar 04, 2018
lonikit:

my bro. u quoted act as bfr persecution and john to be after persecution. which one came first. its obvious they observe the day even in the new testament.

my opinion here is that the reason for change in days can be linked to grace as seen In the epistles of Paul... sabbath is quite different from other services. if you study the bible.
yes, other services were observed in other days in the old testament as well. but sabbath is a sacred day that is declared holy by God himself. that doesn't mean fellowship services as seen in the new testament can't be observed in other days. infact, after the ascension of christ, disciples were in one place fellowshipping almost every day but stil dat didn't stop them from observing the sabbath.

happy Sunday sir

You are correct.

Although we can also conclude that the persecutions were not linear. There wasn't a sharp period it probably varies by synagogues, location and level of hostilities and tolerance.

Other than that, you very are correct.
The choice of Sunday was based on
1. The doctrine of grace
2. Convenience (it could have been any other day)
3. The bias of the knowledge that resurrection took place on the first day (Sunday).

Shalom
Re: Saturday Sabbath To Sunday Worship;were Christians Right On This? by SAMBARRY: 11:07am On Mar 04, 2018
The bible said WHOSOEVER MUST WORSHIP GOD MUST WORSHIP HIM IN SPIRIT AND IN TRUTH.IT DIDN'T SAY WHOEVER MUST WORSHIP HIM MUST WORSHIP HIM ON SATURDAYS OR SUNDAYS.

Nigerians and religious dogmas.smh
Re: Saturday Sabbath To Sunday Worship;were Christians Right On This? by Hiswordxray(m): 2:44pm On Mar 04, 2018
As Christians Christ has become our Sabbath.
"So don’t let anyone condemn you for what you eat or drink, or for not celebrating certain holy days or new moon ceremonies or Sabbaths.
17 For these rules are only shadows of the reality yet to come. And Christ himself is that reality." (Col 2:16-17).

Christ is the reality of the Sabbath, he is the fulfillment of Sabbath. To learn more follow this link:
http://www.hiswordxray.com/2016/11/christ-is-sabbath.html?m=1
Re: Saturday Sabbath To Sunday Worship;were Christians Right On This? by Ubenedictus(m): 8:28pm On Mar 04, 2018
shadeyinka:



https://www.nordeatrade.com/se/explore-new-market/saudi-arabia/opening-hours

Because of this, Christians in Saudi Arabia meet either on Friday or Saturday.

Also, no church is officially recognized in Saudi Arabi , you can't even build a church except in the embassies or in private homes and facilities.


Since you are Catholic, please read
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_in_Saudi_Arabia

Happy Sunday
there is no Church yet you think Christian are allowed to meet on Fridays
Re: Saturday Sabbath To Sunday Worship;were Christians Right On This? by Nobody: 8:39pm On Mar 04, 2018
congorasta:




law and grace indeed..
we tend to choose either of them when suitable for our arguments.
Did you make any valid point with that statement?
Re: Saturday Sabbath To Sunday Worship;were Christians Right On This? by Nobody: 8:41pm On Mar 04, 2018
lonikit:


read ur bible very well. God emphasized Sabbath day more 100 times in the bible and there are serious punishment for profaning it. punishment like death.

to the thread; I tink the reasons are:
1. culture has been rated above the law.
2. we are now in the era of grace bcus Paul said Christians shud not be judged regarding food or Sabbath.
Since you know these things, where do you stand now?
Re: Saturday Sabbath To Sunday Worship;were Christians Right On This? by shadeyinka(m): 8:45pm On Mar 04, 2018
Ubenedictus:
there is no Church yet you think Christian are allowed to meet on Fridays
Yes, they do meet unofficially in private residences and personal business premises or the embassies of their respective governments.
Re: Saturday Sabbath To Sunday Worship;were Christians Right On This? by Ubenedictus(m): 3:34pm On Mar 05, 2018
shadeyinka:

Yes, they do meet unofficially in private residences and personal business premises or the embassies of their respective governments.
hmmm.


let me hold the thought... I imagine the Catholic Church in Saudi is an underground Church... but I'm not too sure of this Friday worship
Re: Saturday Sabbath To Sunday Worship;were Christians Right On This? by shadeyinka(m): 6:21pm On Mar 05, 2018
Ubenedictus:
hmmm.


let me hold the thought... I imagine the Catholic Church in Saudi is an underground Church... but I'm not too sure of this Friday worship
Yes o!
The great Catholic church is an underground church. Officially, it doesnt exist in Saudi Arabia.

Any church that MUST worship on Sundays must either come early before official Sunday work hours or wait till Evening.

Most churches prefar to worship on Fridays.

Shalom
Re: Saturday Sabbath To Sunday Worship;were Christians Right On This? by Ubenedictus(m): 6:37pm On Mar 05, 2018
shadeyinka:

Yes o!
The great Catholic church is an underground church. Officially, it doesnt exist in Saudi Arabia.

Any church that MUST worship on Sundays must either come early before official Sunday work hours or wait till Evening.

Most churches prefar to worship on Fridays.

Shalom
I'll leave the Sunday issue for now till I can confirm.

cheers

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