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Re: Governor Ambode Is A Big Thief ~ Ettu Mohammed, Energy Expert by LaudableXX: 1:21pm On Mar 08, 2018
ibotic:
His model did not include costs of labour
Did not include hardware costs
Logistical costs
Transportation costs...etc

Instead of us to go and develop our land
my people will be claiming lagos.
As an Nnewi babe...
shame is catching my flat.head

So all this costs will amount to the difference of 8 billion naira, that was discovered in his entries?

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Re: Governor Ambode Is A Big Thief ~ Ettu Mohammed, Energy Expert by ibotic(f): 1:32pm On Mar 08, 2018
LaudableXX:


So all this costs will amount to the difference of 8 billion naira, that was discovered in his entries?

Not necessarily so but until we have a breakdown of the sum total as presented by the state government, it remains an exercise in futility to accuse them of fraud....Kapish
Re: Governor Ambode Is A Big Thief ~ Ettu Mohammed, Energy Expert by LaudableXX: 1:44pm On Mar 08, 2018
ibotic:
Not necessarily so but until we have a breakdown of the sum total as presented by the state government, it remains an exercise in futility to accuse them of fraud....Kapish
You obviously have not done your research. undecided The govt stated clearly the amount it spent on powering street lights in Lagos. The engineer did his own analysis and calculations, using current market rates for diesel and compared it to what Ambode's govt said they spent. The difference is as clear as night and day. And logistics cost are already factored into final diesel costs. It is not a seperate charge. So what other breakdown are you waiting for again, when it is clear that the govt is telling a big fat lie? shocked

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Re: Governor Ambode Is A Big Thief ~ Ettu Mohammed, Energy Expert by ibotic(f): 2:57pm On Mar 08, 2018
LaudableXX:

You obviously have not done your research. undecided The govt stated clearly the amount it spent on powering street lights in Lagos. The engineer did his own analysis and calculations, using current market rates for diesel and compared it to what Ambode's govt said they spent. The difference is as clear as night and day. And logistics cost are already factored into final diesel costs. It is not a seperate charge. So what other breakdown are you waiting for again, when it is clear that the govt is telling a big fat lie? shocked

Again like I stated, in the absence of the breakdown of how the government arrived at those figures, it is imperative that we be a little discerning in jumping to conclusions. Other costs which might have been factored in and which do not form part of the basis of Mr Ettus figures might include transportation, consultation, logistics, hardware costs...etc...
Re: Governor Ambode Is A Big Thief ~ Ettu Mohammed, Energy Expert by LaudableXX: 3:02pm On Mar 08, 2018
ibotic:
Again like I stated, in the absence of the breakdown of how the government arrived at those figures, it is imperative that we be a little discerning in jumping to conclusions. Other costs which might have been factored in and which do not form part of the basis of Mr Ettus figures might include transportation, consultation, logistics, hardware costs...etc...

What transportation? What logistics? After making it clear to you, that logistics costs for diesel form an integral part of the price of the commodity? Chai! shocked Gov Ambode clearly said his administration used N12bn in buying diesel to power 31, 446 street lights. Or didn't you read what Ambode said?

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Re: Governor Ambode Is A Big Thief ~ Ettu Mohammed, Energy Expert by Nobody: 3:08pm On Mar 08, 2018

Ambode is like Rotimi Amaechi, he doesn't like money. All the contracts goes to his godfather Tifnubu.
Re: Governor Ambode Is A Big Thief ~ Ettu Mohammed, Energy Expert by fireback: 3:17pm On Mar 08, 2018
ambode is using fashola system of robbery. during the time fashola, if he does a project of 120,000, he will budget 120million... so don't blame ambode for this

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Re: Governor Ambode Is A Big Thief ~ Ettu Mohammed, Energy Expert by Nobody: 3:19pm On Mar 08, 2018
fireback:
ambode is using fashola system of robbery. during the time fashola, if he does a project of 120,000, he budget 120million... so don't blame ambode for this

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Re: Governor Ambode Is A Big Thief ~ Ettu Mohammed, Energy Expert by divineappo(m): 3:22pm On Mar 08, 2018
ibotic:


Not necessarily so but until we have a breakdown of the sum total as presented by the state government, it remains an exercise in futility to accuse them of fraud....Kapish
what is exactly your point?

so, citizens should shut up and keep looking like mumu, right?

we should not speak out against political leaders, same way Christians don't speak against religious leaders when they err, because of "touch not my anointed"
right?

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Re: Governor Ambode Is A Big Thief ~ Ettu Mohammed, Energy Expert by divineappo(m): 3:26pm On Mar 08, 2018
ibotic:


Again like I stated, in the absence of the breakdown of how the government arrived at those figures, it is imperative that we be a little discerning in jumping to conclusions. Other costs which might have been factored in and which do not form part of the basis of Mr Ettus figures might include transportation, consultation, logistics, hardware costs...etc...
why are u blindly defending this alausa govt?

do u work there? am just asking

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Re: Governor Ambode Is A Big Thief ~ Ettu Mohammed, Energy Expert by ibotic(f): 4:53pm On Mar 08, 2018
divineappo:
why are u blindly defending this alausa govt?

do u work there? am just asking

And how am I defending Alausa...
Re: Governor Ambode Is A Big Thief ~ Ettu Mohammed, Energy Expert by ibotic(f): 4:56pm On Mar 08, 2018
LaudableXX:


What transportation? What logistics? After making it clear to you, that logistics costs for diesel form an integral part of the price of the commodity? Chai! shocked Gov Ambode clearly said his administration used N12bn in buying diesel to power 31, 446 street lights. Or didn't you read what Ambode said?

So diesel for 31,446 street lights just appear from nowhere Trucks hired for transportation nko....Drivers nko.....repairs and maintenance nko
Re: Governor Ambode Is A Big Thief ~ Ettu Mohammed, Energy Expert by LaudableXX: 5:01pm On Mar 08, 2018
ibotic:
So diesel for 31,446 street lights just appear from nowhere Trucks hired for transportation nko....Drivers nko.....repairs and maintenance nko

Keep quiet, because you are sounding like a dummy. sad Cost of diesel includes the cost of trucking it to the destination!! Do you even know how the final cost for diesel is arrived at? There is a template used to calculate final cost, to the consumer! When you go to buy diesel at the petrol station, are you asked to pay for cost of trucking and drivers separately? please you are educated, so try to stop sounding like an illiterate!

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Re: Governor Ambode Is A Big Thief ~ Ettu Mohammed, Energy Expert by ibotic(f): 5:14pm On Mar 08, 2018
LaudableXX:


Keep quiet, because you are sounding like a dummy. sad Cost of diesel includes the cost of trucking it to the destination!! Do you even know how the final cost for diesel is arrived at? There is a template used to calculate final cost, to the consumer! When you go to buy diesel at the petrol station, are you asked to pay for cost of trucking and drivers separately? please you are educated, so try to stop sounding like an illiterate!

Why resort to puerile insults Ettu’s analysis (assuming it is right) was based on the unit cost of diesel, the government’s figures need not have been based on that simplified analysis and would have included costs which he did not factor in. What is so complicated in acknowledging this
Re: Governor Ambode Is A Big Thief ~ Ettu Mohammed, Energy Expert by lollarj(f): 5:40pm On Mar 08, 2018
chuksjuve:
Ambode is just fronting for Tinubu..

Tinubu is the bigger thief angry


big or small theif is a theif

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Re: Governor Ambode Is A Big Thief ~ Ettu Mohammed, Energy Expert by LaudableXX: 7:56pm On Mar 08, 2018
ibotic:
Why resort to puerile insults Ettu’s analysis (assuming it is right) was based on the unit cost of diesel, the government’s figures need not have been based on that simplified analysis and would have included costs which he did not factor in. What is so complicated in acknowledging this

I did not insult you, I merely offered you some advice. sad The costs for diesel (including its' transportation) were all factored into the final sales price of diesel. And the final sales price of diesel was used in Ettu's analysis. Logistics & transportation are not paid separately by end users, in the oil industry. It is in-built into the final sales figure. That is why you pay 200 naira to 250 naira per litre, for diesel. No additional fee, applies! You are the one coming up with imaginary additional costs, that do not exist.

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Re: Governor Ambode Is A Big Thief ~ Ettu Mohammed, Energy Expert by Nobody: 8:00pm On Mar 08, 2018
LaudableXX:


I did not insult you, I merely offered you some advice. sad The costs for diesel (including its' transportation) were all factored into Ettu's analysis. Logistics & transportation are not paid separately in the oil industry. It is in-built into the final sales figure. That is why you pay 200 naira to 250 naira per litre, for diesel. No additional fee, applies! You are the one coming up with imaginary additional costs, that do not exist.
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Re: Governor Ambode Is A Big Thief ~ Ettu Mohammed, Energy Expert by divineappo(m): 10:30pm On Mar 08, 2018
LaudableXX:


I did not insult you, I merely offered you some advice. sad The costs for diesel (including its' transportation) were all factored into the final sales price of diesel. And the final sales price of diesel was used in Ettu's analysis. Logistics & transportation are not paid separately by end users, in the oil industry. It is in-built into the final sales figure. That is why you pay 200 naira to 250 naira per litre, for diesel. No additional fee, applies! You are the one coming up with imaginary additional costs, that do not exist.
Gbam

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Re: Governor Ambode Is A Big Thief ~ Ettu Mohammed, Energy Expert by Nobody: 1:02am On Mar 10, 2018
LaudableXX:


I did not insult you, I merely offered you some advice. sad The costs for diesel (including its' transportation) were all factored into the final sales price of diesel. And the final sales price of diesel was used in Ettu's analysis. Logistics & transportation are not paid separately by end users, in the oil industry. It is in-built into the final sales figure. That is why you pay 200 naira to 250 naira per litre, for diesel. No additional fee, applies! You are the one coming up with imaginary additional costs, that do not exist.
Re: Governor Ambode Is A Big Thief ~ Ettu Mohammed, Energy Expert by Eketem: 5:16am On Mar 10, 2018
LaudableXX:


I did not insult you, I merely offered you some advice. sad The costs for diesel (including its' transportation) were all factored into the final sales price of diesel. And the final sales price of diesel was used in Ettu's analysis. Logistics & transportation are not paid separately by end users, in the oil industry. It is in-built into the final sales figure. That is why you pay 200 naira to 250 naira per litre, for diesel. No additional fee, applies! You are the one coming up with imaginary additional costs, that do not exist.

Big huge fat lie.
It is actually cheaper to buy from a truck than to go to a filling station. Those in trucks offer huge discounts especially buying in huge quantities. Some offer up to 40 Naira discount.


You actually pay less you don't pay separately for driver and truck.


This is from years of experience in buying diesel to power several bank branches. You must not lie to make a point but this is APC lies over needless matters.

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Re: Governor Ambode Is A Big Thief ~ Ettu Mohammed, Energy Expert by ameri9ja: 7:21am On Mar 10, 2018
Ambode is a thief. And don't forget what his wife did to that pastor because she had to stand in line like everyone else.

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Re: Governor Ambode Is A Big Thief ~ Ettu Mohammed, Energy Expert by LaudableXX: 2:10pm On Mar 10, 2018
Eketem:
Big huge fat lie.
It is actually cheaper to buy from a truck than to go to a filling station. Those in trucks offer huge discounts especially buying in huge quantities. Some offer up to 40 Naira discount.

You actually pay less you don't pay separately for driver and truck.

This is from years of experience in buying diesel to power several bank branches. You must not lie to make a point but this is APC lies over needless matters.

When people like you lack understanding, you resort to insults and those insults show how utterly clueless and ignorant you are. sad Go back to the beginning of this thread and read all my posts, on the subject.

Ambode alleged that he spent 12 billion on diesel in one year, to power about 31,446 streetlights in Lagos. shocked An engineer called Ettu took him to task, and said that at today's selling rate of 220 per litre, Ambode should NOT have spent more than 2 billion naira (or maximum 4 billion) on diesel, to power those street lights. And I agreed with the engineer. So what happened to the difference of 8 billion naira? That is the question Ambode and his staff, must answer. undecided

Another poster said the difference must have been spent on logistics, trucks, drivers etc. And that is where I disagree. sad Final cost of diesel per litre, is inclusive of logistics and trucking costs. There is no separate charge. Even if you buy diesel from a filling station, you are not billed separately for trucking and logistics, are you? So go back and read each of my posts again. I never said that you pay separately for driver or truck. So kindly do not misquote me, and do not jump to conclusions, by alleging that I made claims which I never did! angry

Thank God everyone can read, and they can see that the only big huge fat liar here, is you! It is obvious you failed to learn anything tangible in school.

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Re: Governor Ambode Is A Big Thief ~ Ettu Mohammed, Energy Expert by nwadiuko1(m): 2:25pm On Mar 10, 2018
As a Nigerian, my mind finds it difficult to believe that no atom of fraud underlies this issue, but the financial analyst/accountant in me thinks otherwise
Mr Ettu did not factor so many logistics in, in his analysis, he overlooked or ignored some running costs, maintenance costs,labour, etc......
he is an energy specialist, but a financial novice..
Re: Governor Ambode Is A Big Thief ~ Ettu Mohammed, Energy Expert by divineappo(m): 3:24pm On Mar 10, 2018
nwadiuko1:
As a Nigerian, my mind finds it difficult to believe that no atom of fraud underlies this issue, but the financial analyst/accountant in me thinks otherwise
Mr Ettu did not factor so many logistics in, in his analysis, he overlooked or ignored some running costs, maintenance costs,labour, etc......
he is an energy specialist, but a financial novice..
you do not even know what u are talking about.

what cost are u talking about?

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Re: Governor Ambode Is A Big Thief ~ Ettu Mohammed, Energy Expert by LaudableXX: 3:31pm On Mar 10, 2018
nwadiuko1:
As a Nigerian, my mind finds it difficult to believe that no atom of fraud underlies this issue, but the financial analyst/accountant in me thinks otherwise
Mr Ettu did not factor so many logistics in, in his analysis, he overlooked or ignored some running costs, maintenance costs,labour, etc......
he is an energy specialist, but a financial novice..
Bia, running cost and maintenance cost of what? Ordinary diesel? shocked

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