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Re: Lagos State Government's Explanation Of Land Use Charge by duwdu: 2:35pm On Mar 09, 2018
ikorodureporta:
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This infographic presents the clearest explanation I've seen yet of this new Land Use Charge law. At least one now has a basis for reviewing the provisions of the law.

Thanks for posting.

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Re: Lagos State Government's Explanation Of Land Use Charge by EarthXmetahuman: 2:35pm On Mar 09, 2018
UNIQUEISRAEL:
Bravo!!! cheesy grin

An average Nigerian is naturally GREEDY, we always on the receiving end(we call on the government to build roads, clear gutters and sweep the dirty streets and house corners, RUBBISH!!!), and that's why Nigeria is still underdeveloped!
Go to other develop countries, you pay charges on each car, house you have! That's why an average citizen of those countries, have only one house or car, not that they lack money in acquiring more, but the advances in charge which is tantamount to liability cost!!
cry cry

We Must Grow! embarassed

Ambode, fire on, do your best! grin
I quite agree with this.. But the problem is, they embezzle this money. You can see what they are doing with your money in develop countries, that's why they call them developed.

Imagine paying extra money to give tinubu to build his empire.. Just dumb.

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Re: Lagos State Government's Explanation Of Land Use Charge by Collymond: 2:39pm On Mar 09, 2018
Crystasluvee:
You buy land for 20million , u Level cuz waterlogged area with 7million, u build better structure of flats for there with amounts to 10million. 37million in total.
U get 37million to build u no get simple cash to pay annually as LUC


U still rent each 3bedroom 800,000 per year. Agent fee 80,000, agreement 80000, utility fee and damages 40,000. U dey collect such money and to pay government way owe the land be problem.

Even those way no get shop go follow show say here no be American or USA. Yet u dey pray to go there.

Na bad thing if oyinbo queue for naija embassy for our visa to come lag?



Please advice your Mr Governor to start his mega City plan for Lagos by driving out first ,the area boys and Agbeross in lagos.... I have never seen a mega city with Agberoos ok
Waka up naija.

This is why we voted and will continue to vote for good governance irrespective of party. Ambode tuale
Re: Lagos State Government's Explanation Of Land Use Charge by LaudableXX: 2:50pm On Mar 09, 2018
UNIQUEISRAEL:
Bravo!!! cheesy grin

An average Nigerian is naturally GREEDY, we always on the receiving end(we call on the government to build roads, clear gutters and sweep the dirty streets and house corners, RUBBISH!!!), and that's why Nigeria is still underdeveloped!
Go to other develop countries, you pay charges on each car, house you have! That's why an average citizen of those countries, have only one house or car, not that they lack money in acquiring more, but the advances in charge which is tantamount to liability cost!!
cry cry

We Must Grow! embarassed

Ambode, fire on, do your best! grin

Such comments honestly shock me, because it shows that Nigerians do NOT think, and do not ask relevant questions. sad Right here on my table is a Land Use Charge that was issued to a client of mine. From 78,000 naira LUC last year for a residential property, that person is being asked to cough out 361,000 naira this year. On what basis? shocked Has the size of the house changed? No! Has the property been commercialised? No! So why impose almost 400% increase in LUC on the landlord?

Instead of addressing specific concerns, the govt of Ambode is dishing out adverts riddled with lies and half-truths. When you say a property is valued at 20 million, how was that sum arrived at? Will a property of a specific design valued at 20 million in Mushin, also be valued at 20 million in Lekki, bearing the same design? shocked

In the property market, there is something called 'a willing buyer-willing seller' relationship, that determines the market value of a property. Is that what took place in this case, before the value of the property was arrived at? My friend's estate agent placed a value of 30 million on a block of 4 flats in our neighbourhood at one time. At the end of the day, that block was sold for 18 million naira. So what was the parameter used to compute the market value of that block?

This same market value of a property story, is what has put many banks in trouble today. sad A customer wants to borrow money from a bank, and tenders the C of O to his property to the bank, as collateral. The building is valued by Estate Surveyors at 40 million naira. By the time the customer defaults and that property is sold, a lot of times the sale price falls below the so-called market value due to the 'willing buyer-willing seller' relationship at that point in time, and they are unable to recoup the full value of the loan borrowed by the customer. It has happened several times. undecided

Ambode should stop his shenanigans. angry He increased land surveying fees last year from 80,000 per plot to almost 700,000 per plot, and got away with it. Later he increased waste disposal charges, and appointed Visionscape - a decision that has turned many parts of Lagos into a filthy zone. Not long after, he increased toll gate fees. People shouted, and later kept quiet. Now, he has also hiked vehicle registration fees by over 200%. shocked Ambode is running a govt of extortion, and has forgotten that the people he was elected to govern have their difficulties, challenges and options like everyone else.

In other places, roads are swept, gutters are cleared and many activities are carried out by govt without extortion of the citizens by such govts. Last year 2017, Lagos State Internal Revenue Service (LIRS) alone generated N247.022 billion. Have Lagosians received services commensurate with this figure?

Fashola our dear BRF was an effective, dynamic governor that executed a lot of note worthy programmes, but he did not institute a govt of extortion and exploitation, in order to achieve his goals. Ambode should realise that Lagosians do not have inexhaustible funds in these hard times, neither do they have limitless patience. One day, they might snap! angry

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Re: Lagos State Government's Explanation Of Land Use Charge by LaudableXX: 3:16pm On Mar 09, 2018
domack99:
All they need to do is to jack up the evaluation, quote a price you can't even sell your property
Exactly! shocked That is just what they have done, with the current LUC. They have come up with all sorts of badly computed estimated rates, to represent the market value of a property. Is market value not supposed to be based on a 'willing buyer-willing seller' relationship? Family houses are even now subject to LUC. They were exempted before.

ameri9ja:
Bad law. Very bad law. Ambode, u can't copy America piecemeal. It is an entire system that works together. You can't copy it here and there. It won't work. Nigeria is a different type of society. Never forget that.
May you live long! May the wisdom God gave you never diminish! cool
Re: Lagos State Government's Explanation Of Land Use Charge by dreycomalfoy(m): 3:19pm On Mar 09, 2018
UNIQUEISRAEL:
Bravo!!! cheesy grin

An average Nigerian is naturally GREEDY, we always on the receiving end(we call on the government to build roads, clear gutters and sweep the dirty streets and house corners, RUBBISH!!!), and that's why Nigeria is still underdeveloped!
Go to other develop countries, you pay charges on each car, house you have! That's why an average citizen of those countries, have only one house or car, not that they lack money in acquiring more, but the advances in charge which is tantamount to liability cost!!
cry cry

We Must Grow! embarassed

Ambode, fire on, do your best! grin
You get sense!!
Re: Lagos State Government's Explanation Of Land Use Charge by LaudableXX: 3:20pm On Mar 09, 2018
wellmax:
Good one from LASG.

People should stop spreading rumors of 400% increase.

If you are a landlord, the rates are cool.
Use your brain, please! angry God gave it to you for a specific purpose! Is it all landlords in Lagos, that were given the same amount as LUC charge? That advert was filled with lies and half-truths. Do your research. How did they arrive at the property value for each building?

A person paid 78,000 naira as Land Use Charge last year, and is being asked to pay almost 400,000 naira as LUC charge this year, how much percentage increase is that? I have the paper right here on my desk, as we speak. angry Why do you swallow every lie that Ambode's govt tells you?

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Re: Lagos State Government's Explanation Of Land Use Charge by LaudableXX: 3:22pm On Mar 09, 2018
dreycomalfoy:
You get sense!!
Another sycophant. The mindless gang have arrived. How I miss Fashola....our own dear BRF. At least, he had sense.
Re: Lagos State Government's Explanation Of Land Use Charge by LaudableXX: 3:27pm On Mar 09, 2018
chronique:
Who does the valuation? Where is the sincerity and honesty in government being the one to value your house and also tell you how much you are to pay as tenement rate? They'd simply overvalue your property and calculate the rate with an inflated valuation.

Oh, I wish I could dash you 1,000 likes for this post! cheesy Kai, your head dey correct. That is the new gimmick Ambode's govt of exploitation has embarked upon. Will everyone who has a house in Lekki, Ikeja, Mushin, Magodo, Apapa, Ijeshatedo, Alaba etc, built according to the same specs and design, pay the same Land Use Charge? No! shocked They will give each of them different property values, even if all the buildings have the same spec, design, plot size and layout. And they will then work out the LUC rate, based on those inflated skewed property values.

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Re: Lagos State Government's Explanation Of Land Use Charge by LaudableXX: 3:29pm On Mar 09, 2018
shocked lipsrsealed
Re: Lagos State Government's Explanation Of Land Use Charge by maasoap(m): 3:35pm On Mar 09, 2018
UNIQUEISRAEL:
Bravo!!! cheesy grin

An average Nigerian is naturally GREEDY, we always on the receiving end(we call on the government to build roads, clear gutters and sweep the dirty streets and house corners, RUBBISH!!!), and that's why Nigeria is still underdeveloped!
Go to other develop countries, you pay charges on each car, house you have! That's why an average citizen of those countries, have only one house or car, not that they lack money in acquiring more, but the advances in charge which is tantamount to liability cost!!
cry cry

We Must Grow! embarassed

Ambode, fire on, do your best! grin
With this mega corruption everywhere in Nigeria? Do you know where all these taxes will end up? Private individuals pockets. Simple.

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Re: Lagos State Government's Explanation Of Land Use Charge by Jessam: 3:40pm On Mar 09, 2018
ikorodureporta:
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What if the property is empty, no landlord or tenant occupying it?
Re: Lagos State Government's Explanation Of Land Use Charge by chronique(m): 3:41pm On Mar 09, 2018
LaudableXX:


Oh, I wish I could dash you 1,000 likes for this post! cheesy Kai, your head dey correct. That is the new gimmick Ambode's govt of exploitation has embarked upon. Will everyone who has a house in Lekki, Ikeja, Mushin, Magodo, Apapa, Ijeshatedo, Alaba etc, built according to the same specs and design, pay the same Land Use Charge? No! shocked They will give each of them different property values, even if all the buildings have the same spec, design, plot size and layout. And they will then work out the LUC rate, based on those inflated skewed property values.

Exactly!
Re: Lagos State Government's Explanation Of Land Use Charge by LaudableXX: 3:44pm On Mar 09, 2018
duwdu:
This infographic presents the clearest explanation I've seen yet of this new Land Use Charge law. At least one now has a basis for reviewing the provisions of the law.

Thanks for posting.

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The infographic is riddled with half truths, and lies. Who is the estate surveyor and valuer that valued each of these buildings, in Lagos? Did they enter each building to determine if it was owner-occupier, or fully rented out, before they computed the LUC charge and gave it to the residents of each building? Is the LUC levied on a 3-bedroom flat in Ketu, the same as the one levied on a 3-bedroom flat in Ajah area of Lekki? There are too many questions you should ask, before swallowing these stories hook, line and sinker.

Ambode is running a govt of exploitation. Simple. Yet he has forgotten that Lagosians do NOT have inexhaustible funds, or inexhaustible patience to put up with rapid increases, back to back. If his plan is to impoverish landlords, he should continue....
Re: Lagos State Government's Explanation Of Land Use Charge by LaudableXX: 3:46pm On Mar 09, 2018
Jessam:
What if the property is empty, no landlord or tenant occupying it?
You still have to pay LUC on it. undecided That is Ambode's new law. His infographic was silent on that aspect.
Re: Lagos State Government's Explanation Of Land Use Charge by Nobody: 3:47pm On Mar 09, 2018
duwdu:


This infographic presents the clearest explanation I've seen yet of this new Land Use Charge law. At least one now has a basis for reviewing the provisions of the law.

Thanks for posting.

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What would happen to those with properties that cost more than N20m? The Otedolas, E moneys and the likes of Linda Ikeji whose house is reported to worth up to N700m?
Re: Lagos State Government's Explanation Of Land Use Charge by LaudableXX: 3:50pm On Mar 09, 2018
gbosaa:
What would happen to those with properties that cost more than N20m? The Otedolas, E moneys and the likes of Linda Ikeji whose house is reported to worth up to N700m?

The average Lagosian landlord's house does not cost up to 700 million. Yet the new LUC rates, penalises them heavily. Go and check.
Re: Lagos State Government's Explanation Of Land Use Charge by ameri9ja: 4:37pm On Mar 09, 2018
LaudableXX:

Exactly! shocked That is just what they have done, with the current LUC. They have come up with all sorts of badly computed estimated rates, to represent the market value of a property. Is market value not supposed to be based on a 'willing buyer-willing seller' relationship? Family houses are even now subject to LUC. They were exempted before.


May you live long! May the wisdom God gave you never diminish! cool

Thnx, bro. You too. It is obvious that this guy spent some time in US but not nearly enough to to get the full picture. He is trying to copy US (NYC especially) in a jerky, spotty, type of way, forgetting they arrived at and are still arriving at a comprehensive system that works for THEM after hundreds of years of trial and error. Hence they have numbers like 0.076? Ambode why do u have 0.076? Why not 0.075.?!

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Re: Lagos State Government's Explanation Of Land Use Charge by COMPAQ(m): 4:43pm On Mar 09, 2018
If the calculation shown is correct then perhaps all the negativity around it is misplaced. Meaning if you are living in your own house worth N60mln, you will only pay about N28k? That's not unreasonable at all!!
Re: Lagos State Government's Explanation Of Land Use Charge by LaudableXX: 4:55pm On Mar 09, 2018
COMPAQ:
If the calculation shown is correct then perhaps all the negativity around it is misplaced. Meaning if you are living in your own house worth N60mln, you will only pay about N28k? That's not unreasonable at all!!

It is even a big fat lie. angry Those adverts and Infographics are not based on any reality. sadThey are as fake as anything! I just shared an experience I got with others on this board. My client who paid 78,000 last year as Land Use Charge, is now being asked to cough up almost 400,000 naira this year as LUC. What is the value of her house?? shocked Who ascertained the property value of her building?
Re: Lagos State Government's Explanation Of Land Use Charge by phemmie06(m): 5:21pm On Mar 09, 2018
Why they don't include cemeteries? Na ojoro
Re: Lagos State Government's Explanation Of Land Use Charge by graces2016: 5:29pm On Mar 09, 2018
This policy is not good,it will add more hardship on the already existing problems in the economy.
Govt officials make more money from increase in revenue,not lagosians.
Increase in house rent on the way,except this wicked policy is resisted now.
No,No,No..Govt should manage and work with the available resources.
Re: Lagos State Government's Explanation Of Land Use Charge by Nobody: 5:30pm On Mar 09, 2018
LaudableXX:


The average Lagosian landlord's house does not cost up to 700 million. Yet the new LUC rates, penalises them heavily. Go and check.


I was just wondering if those ‘big boyz’ at VGC, Banana island etc would pay the same.

It doesn’t make sense for ‘premier league boys’ paying the same rate as those in ‘conference and league one’.

I think this new law will get new landlords paranoid about going to Ovation and other media to flaunt and celebrate their new cribs cos amongst the guests will be spys from Ambode office with notes, pens and other equipment measuring and evaluating the size of the swimming pools, cost of interlocking tiles, marbles etc. Even the nouveau riche would think twice before embarking on properties in Lagos.
Re: Lagos State Government's Explanation Of Land Use Charge by bluke(m): 5:31pm On Mar 09, 2018
UNIQUEISRAEL:
Bravo!!! cheesy grin

An average Nigerian is naturally GREEDY, we always on the receiving end(we call on the government to build roads, clear gutters and sweep the dirty streets and house corners, RUBBISH!!!), and that's why Nigeria is still underdeveloped!
Go to other develop countries, you pay charges on each car, house you have! That's why an average citizen of those countries, have only one house or car, not that they lack money in acquiring more, but the advances in charge which is tantamount to liability cost!!
cry cry

We Must Grow! embarassed

Ambode, fire on, do your best! grin

And Alpha Beta nominated as consultant.
maga (public)must pay
Re: Lagos State Government's Explanation Of Land Use Charge by duwdu: 6:42pm On Mar 09, 2018
LaudableXX:

Use your brain, please! angry God gave it to you for a specific purpose! Is it all landlords in Lagos, that were given the same amount as LUC charge? That advert was filled with lies and half-truths. Do your research. How did they arrive at the property value for each building?

A person paid 78,000 naira as Land Use Charge last year, and is being asked to pay almost 400,000 naira as LUC charge this year, how much percentage increase is that? I have the paper right here on my desk, as we speak. angry Why do you swallow every lie that Ambode's govt tells you?

Please take it easy. It honestly should not be viewed in percentage terms. The real issue should be: Was that 70k paid last year realistic for the area concerned? If it is, I'll have no issues with your argument.

The reality, though, is that someone with a choice property in, say, Ikoyi, should not expect to continue to get away with paying something like the 7k he/she's been paying, same as his/her counterpart with property in Ajegunle!

Of course, the Ikoyi person can play on statistics and say the "1000%" increase is oppressive, but we all know who the real oppressor and realistic charge avoider is.

Don't get me wrong...I'm affected and hit, as well, but there's no chance in hell one fee fits all, and a means of assessing the value of a property is always needed. Let's just hope the government thinks it more humane to just bring down the overall percentages chargeable.

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Re: Lagos State Government's Explanation Of Land Use Charge by LaudableXX: 6:44pm On Mar 09, 2018
duwdu:
Please take it easy. It's honestly should not be views in percentage terms. The real issue should be: Was that 70k paid last year realistic for the area concerned? If it is, I'll have no issues with your argument. The reality, though, is that someone with a choice property in, say, Ikoyi, should not expect to continue to get away with paying the 7k he/she's been paying, same as his/her counterpart with property in Ajegunle!

Of course, the Ikoyi person can play on statistics and say the "1000%" increase is oppressive, but we all know who the real oppressor is.

Don't get me wrong...I'm affected and hit, as well, but there's no chance in hell one fee fits all, and a means of assessing the value of a property is always needed. Let's just hope the government thinks it more humane to just bring down the overall percentages chargeable.
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Cut the crap! angry The person who paid 78,000 naira last year, has his income increased by 400% for him to suddenly be slammed with a bill of almost 400,000 naira?? shocked Do they expect such a person to steal to pay that bill? Why are you and your governor so heartless?

The real oppressor is this Lagos state govt, that is insensitive to the plight of Lagosians. Do Lagosians have an inexhaustible supply of funds? Do you even know how many people have lost their jobs or source of income, in the past one year? Did people vote Ambode into Alausa, so that he could exploit them?
Re: Lagos State Government's Explanation Of Land Use Charge by duwdu: 6:48pm On Mar 09, 2018
gbosaa:



I was just wondering if those ‘big boyz’ at VGC, Banana island etc would pay the same.

It doesn’t make sense for ‘premier league boys’ paying the same rate as those in ‘conference and league one’.

I think this new law will get new landlords paranoid about going to Ovation and other media to flaunt and celebrate their new cribs cos amongst the guests will be spys from Ambode office with notes, pens and other equipment measuring and evaluating the size of the swimming pools, cost of interlocking tiles, marbles etc. Even the nouveau riche would think twice before embarking on properties in Lagos.

Well, any genuine person/business who/that talk the talk, will walk the walk. That's one of the hallmarks of a proper, well managed society.

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Re: Lagos State Government's Explanation Of Land Use Charge by Seankay323: 7:20pm On Mar 09, 2018
COMPAQ:
If the calculation shown is correct then perhaps all the negativity around it is misplaced. Meaning if you are living in your own house worth N60mln, you will only pay about N28k? That's not unreasonable at all!!
60 mil will be 400k o

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Re: Lagos State Government's Explanation Of Land Use Charge by LaudableXX: 7:41pm On Mar 09, 2018
wellmax:
You are a total illiterate, wellmax. Nothing more

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