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How Is It Possible For A Man To Be Just Among His 4 Wives? by Lukgaf(m): 4:49am On Mar 15, 2018
The justice that Allaah makes obligatory on us has to do with al-Maaddah, things that can be bought with money and so on. We should be just when giving them money, when providing shelter, (regarding) what they wear and so on. However, it is not possible to be just amongst them in your heart. There is no one who can be just amongst his wives in his heart. You married them because you love them, but there is no doubt that you will love a person more than the other; you may not be able to identify it, but they may be the ones reading it for you. So Allaah does not ask us to be just regarding this.

What we should be just about are things we have power upon as the Prophet would say, ‘I have done that which I am capable of, do not call me to account for that which I am unable to do’. This justice has to do with something which money can buy and with catering for the needs of all the wives regarding what they want. If there is a wife from the four wives you have who was brought up with eating yam flour (lafun), which is from the cheapest of foods, you should give her what she needs. A bag of yam flour may not be up to ten thousand naira. If there is another one who was brought up with Semovita, (you should give her what she desires even when) you know the amount you will spend to get that will be exorbitant if you wish to buy the same size of Semovita as that of yam flour. So we should buy whatever each of them cherishes; this is justice.

There are from women, those who have never slept on bed before, they were trained with sleeping on mat. If she insists that you must buy her a mat, the one made by hand weaving; you have to follow suit. If you decide to buy a costly one and she rejects it, you will be just once you buy what she wants for her. As for the one who desires bed, buy a bed for her; that is justice. If you want to buy clothes for them and one of them desires a cloth of three thousand naira while the other desires a cloth of six thousand naira, if you buy what each of them wants, you have applied justice. The price is not a problem, because the most important thing is to give each wife whatever she requests. This is what is referred to as equality in Islaam; this is what Allaah orders us to do.

Injustice is when you cater for the need of one wife and you neglect the need of the other wife. However, it is left to women to be patient with their husbands. Most times, they make their husbands misbehave. They frustrate their husbands by asking for needs excessively. And this makes their husbands preoccupied with their own activities alone. Women should be patient with their husbands; be patient and contented with whatever provision Allaah has given your husbands. There is no doubt that every sensible person knows that facing hardship in marriage is preferable to not having a husband to marry. This is because if you remain in your father’s house, you will regret alone by the time you’re insulted once in a while. You may consider committing suicide by the time you are mocked for not having a husband. Since Allaah have blessed you to have a husband, be patient with him. It is better for you than staying in your father’s house. Na’am.

Question answered by Dr Sharoffudeen Gbadebo Raji (Hafidhou Llah)

[SOURCE: Q&A session of the tape, “Explanation of the Harms of takfeer” at Ede]

Transcribed by Aboo Aaishah Al Odeomeey

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Re: How Is It Possible For A Man To Be Just Among His 4 Wives? by Nobody: 9:33am On Mar 16, 2018
with the population of women we have hennnn.
but with god all things are possible.....if only women can make peace with each other.

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Re: How Is It Possible For A Man To Be Just Among His 4 Wives? by chibike69: 9:34am On Mar 16, 2018
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Re: How Is It Possible For A Man To Be Just Among His 4 Wives? by ollah2: 9:43am On Mar 16, 2018
It's not possible. It can never be possible. A mother isn't even just to her children let alone man to wives

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Re: How Is It Possible For A Man To Be Just Among His 4 Wives? by n1ky(f): 9:52am On Mar 16, 2018
" There is no doubt that every sensible
person knows that facing hardship in marriage is
preferable to not having a husband to marry.
This is because if you remain in your father’s
house, you will regret alone by the time you’re
insulted once in a while. You may consider
committing suicide by the time you are mocked
for not having a husband"


I don't support the above quote because IT IS BETTER TO BE SINGLE AND BE PRAYING TO BE MARRIED THAN TO BE MARRIED AND BE PRAYING TO BE SINGLE.

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Re: How Is It Possible For A Man To Be Just Among His 4 Wives? by DaBillionnaire: 10:02am On Mar 16, 2018
nice write up brother,

jazaakallaahu khayran wink

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Re: How Is It Possible For A Man To Be Just Among His 4 Wives? by OgologoDimkpa: 10:04am On Mar 16, 2018
DIKEnaWAR:
Na wa for una. Where do you people even get the strength?
That's why you keep asking for burantashi
No be only Byruntashi; go to the North they are the highest consumer of Tramadol shocked

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Re: How Is It Possible For A Man To Be Just Among His 4 Wives? by OgologoDimkpa: 10:07am On Mar 16, 2018
One man in the midst of 4 wives? This one is suicidal.
Everything is wrong with it cos no sane person will do that... shocked

polygamy breeds unhealthy marriage and relationship cos jealousy is always the orger of the day.

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Re: How Is It Possible For A Man To Be Just Among His 4 Wives? by Nobody: 10:45am On Mar 16, 2018
n1ky:
" There is no doubt that every sensible
person knows that facing hardship in marriage is
preferable to not having a husband to marry.
This is because if you remain in your father’s
house, you will regret alone by the time you’re
insulted once in a while. You may consider
committing suicide by the time you are mocked
for not having a husband"


I don't support the above quote because IT IS BETTER TO BE SINGLE AND BE PRAYING TO BE MARRIED THAN TO BE MARRIED AND BE PRAYING TO BE SINGLE.

caustic relationship are worst than helo fire
Re: How Is It Possible For A Man To Be Just Among His 4 Wives? by BenzEne1(m): 10:45am On Mar 16, 2018
Jazakallah Op.

I however abhor polygamy. It usually breeds a troubled family riddled with jealousy and hatred no matter how the folks involved try to paint it otherwise.

I dont think we can be just always with even material things. Some practices are really not feasible in these current age. Child marriages and polygamy are part of those. We as muslim cannot continue with these practices. Its part of the problem we face.

Most of these men cannot manage the wives and children properly. There are numerous cases of northern men who are beggars themselves practising polygamy and breeding a horde of children who are potential beggars themselves. Even the rich always have issues especially at the point of inheritance claims.

Polygamy should not ne practised. Since Islam doesn't frown on monogamy. We should embrace that. One wife is stress.enough talk less of four.

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Re: How Is It Possible For A Man To Be Just Among His 4 Wives? by yusufobinna1(m): 11:49am On Mar 16, 2018
BenzEne1:
Jazakallah Op.

I however abhor polygamy. It usually breeds a troubled family riddled with jealousy and hatred no matter how the folks involved try to paint it otherwise.

I dont think we can be just always with even material things. Some practices are really not feasible in these current age. Child marriages and polygamy are part of those. We as muslim cannot continue with these practices. Its part of the problem we face.

Most of these men cannot manage the wives and children properly. There are numerous cases of northern men who are beggars themselves practising polygamy and breeding a horde of children who are potential beggars themselves. Even the rich always have issues especially at the point of inheritance claims.

Polygamy should not ne practised. Since Islam doesn't frown on monogamy. We should embrace that. One wife is stress.enough talk less of four.
walahi, u are right with this last paragraph, handling one woman is a problem talk more of 4, polygamy breeds hatred, jealousy ,you hardly find love in a polygamous house .may Allah see us through
Re: How Is It Possible For A Man To Be Just Among His 4 Wives? by ndat(m): 12:54pm On Mar 16, 2018
n1ky:
" There is no doubt that every sensible
person knows that facing hardship in marriage is
preferable to not having a husband to marry.
This is because if you remain in your father’s
house, you will regret alone by the time you’re
insulted once in a while. You may consider
committing suicide by the time you are mocked
for not having a husband"


I don't support the above quote because IT IS BETTER TO BE SINGLE AND BE PRAYING TO BE MARRIED THAN TO BE MARRIED AND BE PRAYING TO BE SINGLE.
reason it well before I pray for your wishes to be granted, besides the OP isn't saying this for our support rather for admonishment.
Re: How Is It Possible For A Man To Be Just Among His 4 Wives? by Yunus2012(m): 1:14pm On Mar 16, 2018
ollah2:
It's not possible. It can never be possible. A mother isn't even just to her children let alone man to wives

It is highly possible and everyone must strife to do justice. To be just is a conscious thing, unlike love which is abstract. You mean a mother can't blame her elder child over the younger one simply because she loves the elder one better?

Anyone who can not lay the blame where it belongs, be it father or mother or the police or government for that is being unjust and funnily, the consequences will be suffered by the whole community, not God who prescribed it.

There is a philosopher who said any society that lacks justice Will never progress even if they all worship God in truth. this is evident in our present day Nigeria which is deem to be highly religious but is largely enmeshed in the gutters of poverty. Compare this to the developed world where high premium is placed on JUSTICE in all its forms, be it social, economic or criminal. the average man on their street know what is good, like we all do, but also leaves by it. He is not waiting for the government to come and force him to do what is right. He does not do what is right only when it pays him. And even he does, the government Will be there to correct him.

Its more like arithmetic where 1+1=2. Where there is justice everything generally goes one well. Whether we worship God or may not a direct correlation as there is a judgement day in which everyone will account for his deeds.
Re: How Is It Possible For A Man To Be Just Among His 4 Wives? by ollah2: 1:25pm On Mar 16, 2018
Yunus2012:


It is highly possible and everyone must strife to do justice. To be just is a conscious thing, unlike love which is abstract. You mean a mother can't blame her elder child over the younger one simply because she loves the elder one better?

Anyone who can not lay the blame where it belongs, be it father or mother or the police or government for that is being unjust and funnily, the consequences will be suffered by the whole community, not God who prescribed it.

There is a philosopher who said any society that lacks justice Will never progress even if they all worship God in truth. this is evident in our present day Nigeria which is deem to be highly religious but is largely enmeshed in the gutters of poverty. Compare this to the developed world where high premium is placed on JUSTICE in all its forms, be it social, economic or criminal. the average man on their street know what is good, like we all do, but also leaves by it. He is not waiting for the government to come and force him to do what is right. He does not do what is right only when it pays him. And even he does, the government Will be there to correct him.

Its more like arithmetic where 1+1=2. Where there is justice everything generally goes one well. Whether we worship God or may not a direct correlation as there is a judgement day in which everyone will account for his deeds.


Bro you wrote plenty grammar. You can't do just yo your wives, IT IS NOT POSSIBLE.

You must give them equal amount of money
Equal amount of time, care, love, sex
Their children must be treated with just
You must have sex with them with just.

The list goes on

It's not just possible
Re: How Is It Possible For A Man To Be Just Among His 4 Wives? by Yunus2012(m): 4:02pm On Mar 16, 2018
ollah2:



Bro you wrote plenty grammar. You can't do just yo your wives, IT IS NOT POSSIBLE.

You must give them equal amount of money
Equal amount of time, care, love, sex
Their children must be treated with just
You must have sex with them with just.

The list goes on

It's not just possible


Justice is that you give each one what is needed. For example, you have 4 kids from 2 women. The justice is that you can't put dome in a private secondary school and other in a public school especially if you can afford it. But you can't also say because once is in a university that cost one million then the other in a secondary school must also spend one million. you put him in an appropriate school.

To help your understanding better, polygamy is not for every man. Anyone intending to go into polygamy, islamically must fulfill the following criteria:
1: Must be sexually fit
2: Must be financially OK because its a serious responsibility
3: Must be mentally sound because his skill in peace keeping and peace making will tested severally

What do you mean give them sex with just? Can two women require the same amount of sex? What is needed however is that you must share your time with them. its not Islamic teaching to marry a new wife and forsake the formal.

The justice is not giving them the same amount of money but giving them the money they really need. If one wife has 4 kids and another has 2, is it just giving them same amount?

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Re: How Is It Possible For A Man To Be Just Among His 4 Wives? by udatso: 7:02am On Mar 30, 2018
Yunus2012:



Justice is that you give each one what is needed. For example, you have 4 kids from 2 women. The justice is that you can't put dome in a private secondary school and other in a public school especially if you can afford it. But you can't also say because once is in a university that cost one million then the other in a secondary school must also spend one million. you put him in an appropriate school.

To help your understanding better, polygamy is not for every man. Anyone intending to go into polygamy, islamically must fulfill the following criteria:
1: Must be sexually fit
2: Must be financially OK because its a serious responsibility
3: Must be mentally sound because his skill in peace keeping and peace making will tested severally

What do you mean give them sex with just? Can two women require the same amount of sex? What is needed however is that you must share your time with them. its not Islamic teaching to marry a new wife and forsake the formal.

The justice is not giving them the same amount of money but giving them the money they really need. If one wife has 4 kids and another has 2, is it just giving them same amount?
A wonderful reply. Jazakallahu khairan
Re: How Is It Possible For A Man To Be Just Among His 4 Wives? by udatso: 7:07am On Mar 30, 2018
BenzEne1:
Jazakallah Op.

I however abhor polygamy. It usually breeds a troubled family riddled with jealousy and hatred no matter how the folks involved try to paint it otherwise.

I dont think we can be just always with even material things. Some practices are really not feasible in these current age. Child marriages and polygamy are part of those. We as muslim cannot continue with these practices. Its part of the problem we face.

Most of these men cannot manage the wives and children properly. There are numerous cases of northern men who are beggars themselves practising polygamy and breeding a horde of children who are potential beggars themselves. Even the rich always have issues especially at the point of inheritance claims.

Polygamy should not ne practised. Since Islam doesn't frown on monogamy. We should embrace that. One wife is stress.enough talk less of four.
There's nothing in the kitab WA sunnah indicating that polygamy was for the past. Allah saw the wisdom in polygamy which is why He allowed it as evident in the Quran. We are not wiser or more knowledgeable than the creator Himself.
you should be careful with discouraging what Allah has made halal.
Re: How Is It Possible For A Man To Be Just Among His 4 Wives? by AlBaqir(m): 6:24am On Apr 02, 2018
Yunus2012:



Justice is that you give each one what is needed. For example, you have 4 kids from 2 women. The justice is that you can't put dome in a private secondary school and other in a public school especially if you can afford it. But you can't also say because once is in a university that cost one million then the other in a secondary school must also spend one million. you put him in an appropriate school.

To help your understanding better, polygamy is not for every man. Anyone intending to go into polygamy, islamically must fulfill the following criteria:
1: Must be sexually fit
2: Must be financially OK because its a serious responsibility
3: Must be mentally sound because his skill in peace keeping and peace making will tested severally

What do you mean give them sex with just? Can two women require the same amount of sex? What is needed however is that you must share your time with them. its not Islamic teaching to marry a new wife and forsake the formal.

The justice is not giving them the same amount of money but giving them the money they really need. If one wife has 4 kids and another has 2, is it just giving them same amount?

Excellent submission. Unfortunately that is not how our societal Alfa/ulama are preaching it. They will tell you it is "Sunnah" that require every tom, dick and harry to practice.

Today, Muslim's home (I mean polygamous home) are the worse (talking of southwest I know). Majority leave in penury. Many simply cannot afford to take care of their self invented problems under the guise of "it is Sunnah".

Worst part is those wives because of the situation are being pushed outside to work in order to carter for their children. I personally know of one diehard Salafi. No real job to even look proper for himself; he went ahead to do mathna. His two wives are fully eleha. Wallahi one of the wives once came to beg for money in my house.


Its a big shame the way people interpret Islam to suit their desires.

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