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Did Jesus Really Die On A Cross? by Nobody: 10:34pm On Apr 10, 2018
Acts 5:30
King James Bible
The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.

Acts 13:29
King James Bible
And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree:

Acts 10:39
King James Bible
And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree:
Re: Did Jesus Really Die On A Cross? by lordm(m): 10:37pm On Apr 10, 2018
Another one
Re: Did Jesus Really Die On A Cross? by EVarn(m): 10:51pm On Apr 10, 2018
Interesting, you are saying that the very foundation on which christianity was built is a lie?

Well, technically, the words cross and tree can be used interchangeably, since a cross is made from a tree, perhaps its an allegory.


Jesus was recorded to have died on a cross, on numerous accounts.

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Re: Did Jesus Really Die On A Cross? by Meeloreh(f): 10:54pm On Apr 10, 2018
The cross is made from?
Isn't it wood?
Go check the origin of the word and not it's mere translation. Huh?!
By his stripes! That is cutting i.e. Slay
At least, you'll remember he had a conversation on the cross ?!
Re: Did Jesus Really Die On A Cross? by Nobody: 12:26am On Apr 11, 2018
removetheturban:
Acts 5:30
King James Bible
The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.

Acts 13:29
King James Bible
And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree:

Acts 10:39
King James Bible
And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree:
We have been through this before, but in case you have forgotten let me remind you...

1.. There is no record in the entire scripture where a person was crucified by the jews by hanging on the tree to die, rather the law stated that the person should be killed den his corpse hanged on the tree...
Deut21:22,23
22 And if a man have committed a sin worthy of death, and he be to be put to death, and thou hang him on a tree:
23 His body shall not remain all night upon the tree, but thou shalt in any wise bury him that day; (for he that is hanged is accursed of Godwink that thy land be not defiled, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance
The jews killed mostly by stoning, then at other times by sword. If u can point just one incidence in scripture where someone was injured and left to die slowly on a tree, den i rest my case. There are stories of executions of defaulters all over the old testament so please just provide one case
2...Jesus execution wasn't carried out by the jews but by Roman soldiers under pilate. The jews were guilty of his blood yes, same way Judas iscariot is but his execution didn't happen in their hands.. History has record of this practice of execution of criminals to die slowly on the cross as long as the time of the Grecian empire wch preceeded the Roman empire and it was very common under the Roman government.
3...The word interpreted as tree is the same word that was used for the staves (wooden sword) held by the temple servants dat came to arrest Jesus Christ.
4...i
hope that makes it clear
Re: Did Jesus Really Die On A Cross? by HappyPagan: 12:41am On Apr 11, 2018
EVarn:
Interesting, you are saying that the very foundation on which christianity was built is a lie?
.
Quite obvious.. Begins with a virgin's birth and ends with a dead man's resurrection. Only man could inspire such a fable.
Re: Did Jesus Really Die On A Cross? by FOLYKAZE(m): 7:51am On Apr 11, 2018
Jesus didn't die on the cross or tree. The entire crucifixion is scam.

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Re: Did Jesus Really Die On A Cross? by Superman30(m): 9:17am On Apr 11, 2018
Christians should better repent and become Muslims immediately



*".......AND GOD DIED....." 5 OF 6*

� *The correct teachings of Jesus within the Bible proves all Paul’s fabricated letters/writings within the Bible false*. The whole idea is just nonsensical. Paul, a man that never even met Jesus. *So, WHO IS/ARE THE AUTHORS OF THIS CONFUSION CALLED THE BIBLE*.
❌Obviously not God, but many uninspired, unidentifiable liars & Fraudsters & ANTICHRISTS such as Paul.
*“For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints*. 1 Corinthians 14:33”.
�With both anti God & Pro God positions, errors & fallacies, inconsistencies etc.
*“The Jehovah’s Witnesses in their “AWAKE!” Magazine dated 8 September, 1957, carried this startling headline “50,000 Errors in The Bible?*
� The protestant bible has 66-books, the Catholic bible has 73-books , despite this amazing disparity; the apologists still claim that there is only one error free bible supposedly revealed by the (3 in 1 God) PRESENTING THIS VERSE AS A PROOF
*“All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness” 2Timothy 3:16.*
❓SO, HOW MANY BOOKS WERE ACTUALLY GOD-BREATHED.
⚠ *The same bible warns: “and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book.” Rev. 22:19”*.
❓SO, WHO IS CURSED BY THE BIBLE? *THE CATHOLICS OR THE PROTESTANTS?* TO BE SURE OF THIS, WE NEED TO KNOW THE TRUE NUMBER OF BOOKS SUPPOSEDLY REVEALED BY GOD SO AS TO KNOW WHO ADDED OR SUBTRACTED FROM IT.✅Allah, in the last testament called THE QURAN also curses the authors of confusion. *“So woe to those who write the "scripture" with their own hands, then say, "This is from Allah," in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn”. Q2: 79*.
�The sicknesses of the bible have been diagnosed long ago by the Christian theologians & the answer is expressed in the Preface to the *Revised Standard Version (RSV) 2nd ed., 1971) “Yet, the King James Version has grave defects*. By the middle of the nineteenth century, the development of Biblical studies and the discovery of many manuscripts more ancient than those upon which the King James Version was based, made it manifest that *THESE DEFECTS ARE SO MANY AND SO SERIOUS AS TO CALL FOR REVISION of the English translation.”.* The preface of the Queens James Bible also says *“the Bible is still filled with inequality and even contradictions that we have not addressed. No Bible is perfect, including this one.”*.
�Luke 1 vs 1-4 proof that the *bible is nothing but a compilation of stories & letters written by human beings to one another*. “Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.“.
❓Is it imaginable that despite all these proofs of human authorship with serious defects, the book still says that entire bible is GOD BREATHED? 2Timothy 3:16.
How can any right thinking person base his/her salvation in the hereafter on a book of confusion supposedly written by 40 uninspired men of Satan.
�INSPIRED INDEED, WHAT A BOOK!
�Tap these links for extensive proofs that the bible is simply the words of Men, not God. http://www.answering-christianity.com/authors_gospels.htm
http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac6.htm�In contrast to the sick book called the bible, is *the last testament & the best challenge which has been divinely revealed to the last prophet & divinely protected*.
� “Verily We: It is We Who have sent down the Dhikr/Reminder (i.e. the Quran) and surely, We will guard it (from corruption)”. Q15:9.
� *This is the most positive speech in the world. It’s a proclamation to humanity, a fountain of mercy, guidance for all, healing for the sick, wisdom for all, warning to the heedless, assurance to doubters, solace to the suffering, hope to the desperate, criterion differentiating right from wrong & the greatest miracle to humankind.It is the timeless Speech of Allah, it is not a creation of Allah.*
�THE QURAN. Read a copy today and be saved God willing.
� *Request for free the English pdf or audio translation from Sheikh Jesus.*
“Then do they not reflect upon the Qur'an? If it had been from [any] other than Allah, they would have found within it much contradiction”. Q4:82.
�The bible & the Qur’an talk about the creation of Adam & Eve (May peace be upon them) but there is a world of difference between their accounts. For instance, the bible blames only eve while the Qur’an blame both of them. We said: “O Adam! Dwell thou and thy wife in the Garden; and eat of the bountiful things therein as ye will; but approach not this tree, or ye run into harm and transgression.” [Q2:35].In the Bible, God is reported to have said that if they would eat from this tree, they would die. When they ate from the tree, they regretted what they had done, and sought forgiveness:
*“Our Lord! We have wronged ourselves. If you forgive us not, and bestow not upon us Your Mercy, we shall certainly be of the losers” [Q7:23]*.
�The sin of Adam stemmed from desire, not from arrogance unlike that of satan, hence Allah guided him to repent and He accepted that from him:
“Then Adam received from his Lord Words. And his Lord pardoned him (accepted his repentance). Verily, He is the One who forgives (accepts repentance), the Most Merciful” [2:37].
� *This became a methodology for Adam and his descendants: that whoever sins & repents sincerely, Allah will accept his repentance.Making mistakes is a part of human nature. Prophet Muhammad (peace of Allah be upon him) said, *“Every son of Adam is bound to commit sins…” (al-Tirmidhi) “…and the best of those who commit sins are those who repent.”* .also [Q39:53]
“And He it is who accepts repentance from His slaves, and forgives sins, and He knows what you do”. (42:25).
�The ultimate forgiveness befitting to the Almighty God (ALLAH, ELLAH, ELOHIM) is an unconditional forgiveness. Forgiveness after a revenge e.g. God killing Himself or His only Son before forgiving is fake, pointless & not a forgiveness but a revenge.
�For more authentic & divine details on the creation & journey of Adam to earth, tap this link https://islamqa.info/en/13286
Re: Did Jesus Really Die On A Cross? by Francolad(m): 11:31am On Apr 11, 2018
Terminator1234g:
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This man means we'll for Nigerians,
He entered office in 2015:
1. And since 2016,boko-haram became handicap to attack and other terrorist groups like ipob are now exterminated and their leader dead somewhere.
2. And now Looters are afraid of the name Nigeria.
3. And all is set for the payment of 5000 to all Nigerian youths.
4. And now bag of rice that was N22000 is N5000.
5. And now though dollar is high, it decreasing rate shows that in the next quarter of the year, 000.01 naira will be equal to 1 dollar and perhaps people have never been this rich in other regime compare to our great PMB regime.
6. Millions of employment everyday as those who were even sack are now getting more better jobs.
7. No strikes in our tertiary institutions again.
8. Great infrastructures now showing up every now and then both in the SS, SE, NE, NW, NC, SW... Just name it.
9. Improvement in public health care that even the president son and family are now attended to medically in Nigeria.
10. Nigeria is now written with integrity all over the world that if we can extend PMB tenure to 2023 and even add more years, a permanent seat in the UN is sure for us.
11. Industry are now working that we can now see self-driven cars on our highways.

Let support this man of change forever.
#ISaiBaba #ISaiChange
Written by an educated elite.



I'm sorry to say but I just have to say it

You are definitely not okay.
You need serious medical evaluation like in an asylum.
Re: Did Jesus Really Die On A Cross? by Maamin(m): 3:54pm On Apr 11, 2018
Superman30:
Christians should better repent and become Muslims immediately



*".......AND GOD DIED....." 5 OF 6*

� *The correct teachings of Jesus within the Bible proves all Paul’s fabricated letters/writings within the Bible false*. The whole idea is just nonsensical. Paul, a man that never even met Jesus. *So, WHO IS/ARE THE AUTHORS OF THIS CONFUSION CALLED THE BIBLE*.
❌Obviously not God, but many uninspired, unidentifiable liars & Fraudsters & ANTICHRISTS such as Paul.
*“For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints*. 1 Corinthians 14:33”.
�With both anti God & Pro God positions, errors & fallacies, inconsistencies etc.
*“The Jehovah’s Witnesses in their “AWAKE!” Magazine dated 8 September, 1957, carried this startling headline “50,000 Errors in The Bible?*
� The protestant bible has 66-books, the Catholic bible has 73-books , despite this amazing disparity; the apologists still claim that there is only one error free bible supposedly revealed by the (3 in 1 God) PRESENTING THIS VERSE AS A PROOF
*“All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness” 2Timothy 3:16.*
❓SO, HOW MANY BOOKS WERE ACTUALLY GOD-BREATHED.
⚠ *The same bible warns: “and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book.” Rev. 22:19”*.
❓SO, WHO IS CURSED BY THE BIBLE? *THE CATHOLICS OR THE PROTESTANTS?* TO BE SURE OF THIS, WE NEED TO KNOW THE TRUE NUMBER OF BOOKS SUPPOSEDLY REVEALED BY GOD SO AS TO KNOW WHO ADDED OR SUBTRACTED FROM IT.✅Allah, in the last testament called THE QURAN also curses the authors of confusion. *“So woe to those who write the "scripture" with their own hands, then say, "This is from Allah," in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn”. Q2: 79*.
�The sicknesses of the bible have been diagnosed long ago by the Christian theologians & the answer is expressed in the Preface to the *Revised Standard Version (RSV) 2nd ed., 1971) “Yet, the King James Version has grave defects*. By the middle of the nineteenth century, the development of Biblical studies and the discovery of many manuscripts more ancient than those upon which the King James Version was based, made it manifest that *THESE DEFECTS ARE SO MANY AND SO SERIOUS AS TO CALL FOR REVISION of the English translation.”.* The preface of the Queens James Bible also says *“the Bible is still filled with inequality and even contradictions that we have not addressed. No Bible is perfect, including this one.”*.
�Luke 1 vs 1-4 proof that the *bible is nothing but a compilation of stories & letters written by human beings to one another*. “Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.“.
❓Is it imaginable that despite all these proofs of human authorship with serious defects, the book still says that entire bible is GOD BREATHED? 2Timothy 3:16.
How can any right thinking person base his/her salvation in the hereafter on a book of confusion supposedly written by 40 uninspired men of Satan.
�INSPIRED INDEED, WHAT A BOOK!
�Tap these links for extensive proofs that the bible is simply the words of Men, not God. http://www.answering-christianity.com/authors_gospels.htm
http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac6.htm�In contrast to the sick book called the bible, is *the last testament & the best challenge which has been divinely revealed to the last prophet & divinely protected*.
� “Verily We: It is We Who have sent down the Dhikr/Reminder (i.e. the Quran) and surely, We will guard it (from corruption)”. Q15:9.
� *This is the most positive speech in the world. It’s a proclamation to humanity, a fountain of mercy, guidance for all, healing for the sick, wisdom for all, warning to the heedless, assurance to doubters, solace to the suffering, hope to the desperate, criterion differentiating right from wrong & the greatest miracle to humankind.It is the timeless Speech of Allah, it is not a creation of Allah.*
�THE QURAN. Read a copy today and be saved God willing.
� *Request for free the English pdf or audio translation from Sheikh Jesus.*
“Then do they not reflect upon the Qur'an? If it had been from [any] other than Allah, they would have found within it much contradiction”. Q4:82.
�The bible & the Qur’an talk about the creation of Adam & Eve (May peace be upon them) but there is a world of difference between their accounts. For instance, the bible blames only eve while the Qur’an blame both of them. We said: “O Adam! Dwell thou and thy wife in the Garden; and eat of the bountiful things therein as ye will; but approach not this tree, or ye run into harm and transgression.” [Q2:35].In the Bible, God is reported to have said that if they would eat from this tree, they would die. When they ate from the tree, they regretted what they had done, and sought forgiveness:
*“Our Lord! We have wronged ourselves. If you forgive us not, and bestow not upon us Your Mercy, we shall certainly be of the losers” [Q7:23]*.
�The sin of Adam stemmed from desire, not from arrogance unlike that of satan, hence Allah guided him to repent and He accepted that from him:
“Then Adam received from his Lord Words. And his Lord pardoned him (accepted his repentance). Verily, He is the One who forgives (accepts repentance), the Most Merciful” [2:37].
� *This became a methodology for Adam and his descendants: that whoever sins & repents sincerely, Allah will accept his repentance.Making mistakes is a part of human nature. Prophet Muhammad (peace of Allah be upon him) said, *“Every son of Adam is bound to commit sins…” (al-Tirmidhi) “…and the best of those who commit sins are those who repent.”* .also [Q39:53]
“And He it is who accepts repentance from His slaves, and forgives sins, and He knows what you do”. (42:25).
�The ultimate forgiveness befitting to the Almighty God (ALLAH, ELLAH, ELOHIM) is an unconditional forgiveness. Forgiveness after a revenge e.g. God killing Himself or His only Son before forgiving is fake, pointless & not a forgiveness but a revenge.
�For more authentic & divine details on the creation & journey of Adam to earth, tap this link https://islamqa.info/en/13286

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You might have to create your own thread angry

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