ogatboy:



Forget Western Media brain wash, Russia will checkmate America. America is the problem in the world and they are in check cos of Russia. I stay with a Syrian and speak to someone in Aleppo on a daily basis. US are actually the ones sponsoring the bad guys. You know why?? It’s the oil. They want access to it.

wildkat:



No you're not being silly. Exaclty my point. You're the only person making sense here. These two nations will never fight each other cos of the grave consequences. Rather they use a smaller nation to test their latest weapons in a proxy war. I repeat myself: "This is a repetition of 1991 Gulf war in Kuwait.

ogatboy:



Forget Western Media brain wash, Russia will checkmate America. America is the problem in the world and they are in check cos of Russia. I stay with a Syrian and speak to someone in Aleppo on a daily basis. US are actually the ones sponsoring the bad guys. You know why?? It’s the oil. They want access to it.

tellmemore15:


Bros you tried, you mean you could wrote all this speculations based on your thoughts only.

lets assume you were right that something happened which definitely didn't, you need to understand that both countries (US & Russia) try hard to avoid an avoidable war. The US avoids Russia just as Russia avoids the US. but still, the US keeps making it clear who the boss is and Russia gets it. They would never have attacked the US ships,without enough warnings, cautions and more warnings, common "THEY KNOW THE REPERCUSSION" that is the end of the world nah moreover that is the essence of a deterrent. remember last month, about 200 russian backed militias were killed when they tried to attack a US base in Syria, it was "a slaughter" as the Russians claimed.

as much as both countries try to avoid direct confrontations, the US has always shown they are the boss even in the clouds of syria.

moreover, the US made the strikes as precise as possible so no one would see reasons to escalate. I conclude by saying I think Trump truly wants out of Syria.

mojeer678:


Let America be the "victor" in Syria if it stops the conflict.

America got it's tech handed to it in an old oil pan from bob's garage, there are endless videos of America's missiles being shot down and everyone knows it, yet the Pentagon is claiming complete success. FACT: Pentagon propaganda won't fool Russia, intact targets are the proof and Syria is off the hook largely unscathed. At this point the best thing to do is let the Pentagon be the "five year old that beat uncle at chess" and forget it. For the first time America attacked a nation that was actually able to bring a gun to the fight

There are claims that Russia was hitting nothing because all the missiles they fired went too high for cruise missiles that "fly 100 feet off the ground". But the missiles were dropped from aircraft this time around, and approached from above, which means the videos everyone saw with high air bursts were consistent with actual shoot downs. Syria had no trouble with posting pictures of a university research facility that got hit, why are there no photos of anything else? That's your answer in a hand basket.

KratosCorp:
You guys are just making all these Russia-glamorization noise online, but you have no clue how powerful the US is.

See, America can virtually shut the entire earth down in 24 hours if it boils down to it - and that's without firing a single missile. Self-restraint is the only thing that keeps the US in check, not your pathetic Russia or third-world China.

falopey:
[b]I can see Russia supporters on this forum shouting Russia this Russia that. They have forgotten that war is not fought only by military hardwares. There is only one weapon Russia does not have against the great America. It is called Economic weapon. Or has anyone ever heard Russia placing economic sanctions on the US? Yes, that’s a weapon Russia and it’s allies (if at all they have any good allies) don’t have against the US.

US has announced less than 24 hours ago more sanctions against Russia companies. That means war has started already even without firing a weapon. As it stands right now, Russia is the one at the receiving end of the war. US can afford to fight Russia without firing a weapon just with economic restrictions. But Russia cannot fight back in like manner. If Russia is heavily sanctioned by US and her allies, trust me, Russia economic will nose dive. Then their government will be forced to negotiation table.

Until Russia can have the capability to place economic sanction on the US which it doesn’t have the power to do, then US will continue to be the must powerful country in the world with both economic and military weapons at her disposal.[/b]

Just30:
actually , all of those sanctions are having no real effect on the Russian economy than helping it ramp up it domestic productions . Manufacturing is returning back to Russia and when it become more critical , Germany the power house of Europe will slap Europe to not follow through with ant sanctions cause Russia is a huge market for Germany.
Russia has it eye on the mean goal which is being driven by China to weaken the US economically.
The Middle East will follow China on the economic front and the petrodollar will be gone.

slimdamatrix1:


Excuse me, America has its issues and they’re imperfect. I get it but Russia is worse!
You should google Russia and read more about their relations with other countries and how they run their country.

I love how South Front, a Kremlin outlet, is trying to soothe the butthurt of those angry over the spanking Assad just received with a bunch of laughably fake news.

If you want the truth, there are many serious outlets. Here's one of many:

Just30:
actually , the only thing keeping the peace of this world is Putin's restrain and patience.
His parliament and cabinet is ready to give him war orders.
His defence industry is already ready producing rapidly for war as ordered .
Everyone knows tomahawks are a mess
Those newest and smart weapons are not a match to the Russian ones
Now the Pentagon is investigating why so many of the 105 or 103 missiles were intercepted by updated missiles defences
https://southfront.org/pentagon-is-concerned-about-results-of-syria-strike-prepares-to-launch-internal-probe-sources/

KratosCorp:



________
https://www.militarytimes.com/pentagon/2018/04/14/us-launched-105-weapons-against-syria-with-none-intercepted-dod-says/
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falopey:
[/b] Your analysis is purely out of place. You don’t understand how international trade and politics operate. If you think China can do without the US economically, you must shine your eyes to see beyond the superficial. US is the biggest Chinese market for good. That’s why Trump is putting more tariffs on Chinese products because there is huge trade imbalance between US and China. China sell more to the US and get US dollar than US sell to China. Now imagine what weak American economy will mean for China’s economy. So your claim above about China is a fallacy. Products that cost $5 to produce in China are sold $200 in America. Which country in the world do you think China can get that kind of mad purchase of their products from? Only America. About petrodollar. The Middle East are the ones enjoying American petrodollars for your information. America itself is an oil producer and exporter of natural gas for your information. America is reserving her oil while buying from the Middle East. If you don’t know, you need to know that all the petrol anywhere used in America is mixed with 10% bio fuel. Electric cars are becoming order of the day on the streets of America. In the next couple of decades, Middle East and Russia will start drinking their oil by themselves. No more petrodollars for them.

Russia economy and Nigeria economy are the same in terms of them relying on crude oil for survival. No manufacturing is returning to Russia. 5 Nigerian naira is equal 1 Russian rupee. 360 naira is to 1 US dollar. Under Jonathan, Nigerian currency and Russia currency are more or less the same value. So what’s this noise about Russia about? Is it because it spending all her crude oil money on weapon acquisition? Let Europe stop buying oil from Russia. Russia is finished.

falopey:
[/b] Your analysis is purely out of place. You don’t understand how international trade and politics operate. If you think China can do without the US economically, you must shine your eyes to see beyond the superficial. US is the biggest Chinese market for good. That’s why Trump is putting more tariffs on Chinese products because there is huge trade imbalance between US and China. China sell more to the US and get US dollar than US sell to China. Now imagine what weak American economy will mean for China’s economy. So your claim above about China is a fallacy. Products that cost $5 to produce in China are sold $200 in America. Which country in the world do you think China can get that kind of mad purchase of their products from? Only America. About petrodollar. The Middle East are the ones enjoying American petrodollars for your information. America itself is an oil producer and exporter of natural gas for your information. America is reserving her oil while buying from the Middle East. If you don’t know, you need to know that all the petrol anywhere used in America is mixed with 10% bio fuel. Electric cars are becoming order of the day on the streets of America. In the next couple of decades, Middle East and Russia will start drinking their oil by themselves. No more petrodollars for them.

Russia economy and Nigeria economy are the same in terms of them relying on crude oil for survival. No manufacturing is returning to Russia. 5 Nigerian naira is equal 1 Russian rupee. 360 naira is to 1 US dollar. Under Jonathan, Nigerian currency and Russia currency are more or less the same value. So what’s this noise about Russia about? Is it because it spending all her crude oil money on weapon acquisition? Let Europe stop buying oil from Russia. Russia is finished.

Just30:
you might be a special case of dumb to believe non was intercepted
When Syrians themselves have prove of their missile defence launching missiles .
The fact is , US tomahawks are useless
It will be expensive on any country to strike Syria with more Russian rods being supplied to the Syrian government

KratosCorp:
If you're not the ediot here, can you show me a SINGLE proof of the interception; apart from the childish , crap-grade animated poo you guys are throwing around on the web? Can you gladly oblige me on that, Mr. Dumb?

Just30:
first of all
Russian economy and Nigeria economy are not the same.
Second you don't know what petrodollar means
With less countries using the dollar for international purchases, thereby spreading the dollar
Hyperinflation will set in on the US economy.

No country can survive without the other with regards to trade . Domestic Chinese consumption surpasses what they send to the US. Without China , supermarkets in the US will go empty, US will become the new Venezuela.
As for your production cost market cost analogy
Only the production cost goes to China , the rest stays in the US.
The entire US economy will come crashing down
Should people not find anything on the selves of their supermarket.

JUHABACH:


brother, the u.s. is also a heavy manufacturer of products and has Canada and Mexico as neighbours, who also have thriving manufacturing sectors. saying that without china, u.s. supermarkets will become like Venezuela is a completely ignorant statement that requires ignoring every other economic factor. fact is China while the largest place for cheap labour, isn't the only option whereas no other nation on earth comes close to. the raw spending power of the u.s.
fact is China needs u.s. trade more than the u.s. needs china as its income is largely dependent on its trade relationship with the u.s.
fact is an economic instability is far more detrimental to China than it is to the u.s. and the Chinese government knows this. the u.s. will probably suffer some inflation (nowhere near hyper inflation) but with a few steps such as investing in the energy sector and making a manufacturing pivot to African countries with cheap labour, the problem can be remedied in a few years top. the u.s. economy recovered in record time from the worst economic crisis since the goddamn great depression. it's economy is far more resilient then people think.
it has been throughly tested by some of the worst economic disasters and had consistently recovered faster and stronger than anticipated.
China on the other hand has faced no such tests and is run by a neo dictatorship which means that should economic conditions worsen to high degrees, there is a far greater chance for an uprising against the institutions and the central government itself. the u.s. has no such fears.

it's always good to look at the big picture rather than a single pixel.

Just30:
you are laughable
One thing you don't know about the Asians is the fact that the structure of their society will never bring about an uprising .
Watch this , it's playing out so nicely .
Asia is the new financial powerhouse

The US has got no money to spend around the world
It coffers will dry up when drastically when China stops lending.
The war in Syria is all about geopolitics and thanks to Russia , the US is not going to win it .
China holds all the cards and how they play those cards is up to them. Oil trade is what keeps the dollar in circulation around the world .
As China has managed to get Russia and Iran
A huge oil supplier on board trading on petroyuan and since China is the single largest consumer of oil around the world, Saudi Arabia will have no choice than to sell it oil to China to be paid for in Yuan.
The entire Asian countries will have no objection transacting their international trade in Yuan because their economies are tightly link to that of China and that is where 80% of true economic activity and investment comes from .
Even Japan is in a mess and you think the US economy can escape it. I'm laughing
China will come out with damages but it will survive
The US will crumble

JUHABACH:


from your reply I have gotten three things;
a) you know nothing about Asian societies (particularly china)

b) your knowledge of economic and foreign affairs is painfully lacking at best

c) you are one of those automatic Anti-American trolls thus it's impossible to have an intelligent discussion with you.

Just30:
two things I know I've notice You think economics and foreign affairs is as displayed by Hollywood You thinks military might is about creating mercenaries

JUHABACH:


where in my post did I mention anything related to the military?

smh.

>claims I m using Hollywood sense
>thinks China has all the cards in world trade
>thinks the Syrian war matters in the grand scheme of world trade
>thinks oil will be the future of global trade.

yeah... this isn't worth it.

MrMystrO:


Loool

Uncle sam has been compromised, What we have now is the United states of Israel bro
Zionist puppets is what they are.

slimdamatrix1:


Excuse me, America has its issues and they’re imperfect. I get it but Russia is worse!
You should google Russia and read more about their relations with other countries and how they run their country.

Just30:
you are laughable
One thing you don't know about the Asians is the fact that the structure of their society will never bring about an uprising .
Watch this , it's playing out so nicely .
Asia is the new financial powerhouse

The US has got no money to spend around the world
It coffers will dry up when drastically when China stops lending.
The war in Syria is all about geopolitics and thanks to Russia , the US is not going to win it .
China holds all the cards and how they play those cards is up to them. Oil trade is what keeps the dollar in circulation around the world .
As China has managed to get Russia and Iran
A huge oil supplier on board trading on petroyuan and since China is the single largest consumer of oil around the world, Saudi Arabia will have no choice than to sell it oil to China to be paid for in Yuan.
The entire Asian countries will have no objection transacting their international trade in Yuan because their economies are tightly link to that of China and that is where 80% of true economic activity and investment comes from .
Even Japan is in a mess and you think the US economy can escape it. I'm laughing
China will come out with damages but it will survive
The US will crumble

tellmemore15:


Very funny, seriously you don't know much. you don't even know china has been a leach to the US.

What do they manufacture other than what the west dictates to them. how many people are using Chinese product all over the world. Made in China does not mean its a Chinese product.


you think the US would be so bold to place bans or tariffs on Chinese product if they don't know what they are doing. the Chinese are already feeling the heat like seriously.

If China doesnt retrace her step within the next six mnths, they may never recover.

As off russia, they are just a joke. They really have nothing up their sleeve even military wise. The world confirmed this when they announced their new weapons, all nuclear tiped.

It shows they cant even engage in a conventional war, only building deterants, to sell to who sef?

Like coming to a boxing ring with AK47. oviously youre not ready for the fight knowing fully well AK's are not used in the boxing ring, moreover, all the boxers equally have AK's too.

At the same time, they are not a right-off shaa.

tellmemore15:


Bros you tried, you mean you could wrote all this speculations based on your thoughts only.

lets assume you were right that something happened which definitely didn't, you need to understand that both countries (US & Russia) try hard to avoid an avoidable war. The US avoids Russia just as Russia avoids the US. but still, the US keeps making it clear who the boss is and Russia gets it. They would never have attacked the US ships,without enough warnings, cautions and more warnings, common "THEY KNOW THE REPERCUSSION" that is the end of the world nah moreover that is the essence of a deterrent. remember last month, about 200 russian backed militias were killed when they tried to attack a US base in Syria, it was "a slaughter" as the Russians claimed.

as much as both countries try to avoid direct confrontations, the US has always shown they are the boss even in the clouds of syria.

moreover, the US made the strikes as precise as possible so no one would see reasons to escalate. I conclude by saying I think Trump truly wants out of Syria.

slimdamatrix1:


Who is number one in those countries? Biggest economy, strongest military etc. You’re not just living in a cave, but you’re clueless as to how the world works- in case you dunno, America practically runs the world.

Not in the mood for an argument, I barely slept last night. I rather talk about cartoons right now

OAUTemitayo:


This is a classic display of ignorance.

ojkalito:
Nigeria Air defense system only stops rain during burial ceremony


Olaniyi50
All you are good at is "bringing down your country" without contributing anything meaningful to her development. *spits*

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