americanson:
okay. But what about the SONCAP ish... How do I over come it please?

You need SONCAP.
It is usually issued in the country of goods manufacture after SON officials visit.
Obtaining it is quite easy and straight forward. If you are dealing directly with the product manufacturer in China.
Tell the manufacturer you need SONCAP certificate of the products to be sent with your bill of laden. The manufacturer will include the cost of the SONCAP to cost of goods and issue you invoice. (Note that your manufacturer will advice you of a Shipping company) Once you pay, manufacturer handles the remaining process. You only need to make sure your bill of laden, SONCAP and any other documents specified in your Form M gets to your Clearing agent in good time to avoid demurrage. You need a good and honest Clearing Agent at this point. Lots of tout without an office claim to be a Clearing Agent. The Clearing Agent is the one in position to answer all the questions you have been asking.
Hope this helped. Wishing you success ahead.

All4good:

You need SONCAP.
It is usually issued in the country of goods manufacture after SON officials visit.
Obtaining it is quite easy and straight forward. If you are dealing directly with the product manufacturer in China.
Tell the manufacturer you need SONCAP certificate of the products to be sent with your bill of laden. The manufacturer will include the cost of the SONCAP to cost of goods and issue you invoice. (Note that your manufacturer will advice you of a Shipping company) Once you pay, manufacturer handles the remaining process. You only need to make sure your bill of laden, SONCAP and any other documents specified in your Form M gets to your Clearing agent in good time to avoid demurrage. You need a good and honest Clearing Agent at this point. Lots of tout without an office claim to be a Clearing Agent. The Clearing Agent is the one in position to answer all the questions you have been asking.
Hope this helped. Wishing you success ahead.

Thanks a lot bro. I feel at ease now...

Connoisseur:


Most clearing companies are Form M compliant. They process these forms months in advance in anticipation of protective clients. The agent's gives you the Form M and BA no which is processed with their name, the BoL is issued in the name of your agent's company while you are the notify party. This simply means your agent is the importer.
The benefits of this process far outweighs the inconvenience of not having your name as the importer.

Good morning sir. Was just going over the thread again to take down any point I must have missed.

Based on your submission Here it means before I even pay for the goods or shipping, it is therefore imperative that I should get an agent FIRST, am I right?

olatunji71:
Let me also emphasise that importation of goods is not for the faint hearted be cos there are lots of intrigues involved. You don't have prior knowledge like you stated earlier on so you must equally thread with maximum care by seeking for series of advices from experienced importers. That would do you a lot of good and you would have yourself to thank for doing just that.

Thanks, at least I have started asking as u can see from this thread.

sonnie10:


Let me explain. It's not that your goods won't fit in the 20ft, it certainly will. The issue is that it is by itself and would have it's own bill of laden. This bill of laden is what customs and other authorities at the port look at to inspect, collect tax and allow your goods in. Your agent would have a lot of work to do, but at the end, the money comes from you and this drives cost.
However, in groupage, a predetermined amount is charged by the agent and cost is reduced by leveraging on others who will also contribute their own share towards their own goods. That is how small impoter survive the high cost of shipping and clearing.

hello, if I am gonna do groupage, whom do I tell to make it so? That is, is it the manufacturer or the shipping line that would be told to make it groupage?

americanson:


Good morning sir. Was just going over the thread again to take down any point I must have missed.

Based on your submission Here it means before I even pay for the goods or shipping, it is therefore imperative that I should get an agent FIRST, am I right?

You do not need to have an agent before you pay for your goods. You need to have an agent before the seller ships or at the point of shipping. This is because the agent would have to guide you on some of the process to make clearing easier.

sonnie10:


Let me explain. It's not that your goods won't fit in the 20ft, it certainly will. The issue is that it is by itself and would have it's own bill of laden. This bill of laden is what customs and other authorities at the port look at to inspect, collect tax and allow your goods in. Your agent would have a lot of work to do, but at the end, the money comes from you and this drives cost.
However, in groupage, a predetermined amount is charged by the agent and cost is reduced by leveraging on others who will also contribute their own share towards their own goods. That is how small impoter survive the high cost of shipping and clearing.

This sound interesting mate, If i may ask what is the purpose of groupage and How can first importer minimum is cost on Oil substance ?

You advise is well appreciated .

Connoisseur:


You do not need to have an agent before you pay for your goods. You need to have an agent before the seller ships or at the point of shipping. This is because the agent would have to guide you on some of the process to make clearing easier.

I understand but I was talking with respect to the Form M requirement, since it is stated that one should open a Form M first before importing and you also mentioned that agent can help with theirs (Form M). I interpreted it to mean that I have to get an agent FIRST to sort out the Form M before proceeding to pay the manufacturer.

americanson:
I understand but I was talking with respect to the Form M requirement, since it is stated that one should open a Form M first before importing and you also mentioned that agent can help with theirs (Form M). I interpreted it to mean that I have to get an agent FIRST to sort out the Form M before proceeding to pay the manufacturer.

Yeah based on your status, I think you should get an agent first. He would be able to guide you.

americanson:
I understand but I was talking with respect to the Form M requirement, since it is stated that one should open a Form M first before importing and you also mentioned that agent can help with theirs (Form M). I interpreted it to mean that I have to get an agent FIRST to sort out the Form M before proceeding to pay the manufacturer.

Only banks can officially issue a Form M and not agents. Any other way you go about it is backyard business.

americanson:


I asked the manufacturer and they told me that 9xx unit will feel 20FT and since we are buying 8xx units, which is very close to 9xx, I believe there is no need for groupage (LCL).

Concerning the SONCAP, doesn't the shipping company handle that?

Cc: Connoisseur , please can you shed light on this SONCAP?

Cc: iyajelili, please do you use SONCAP during your company's import? Please help on ways to go about it.

Thanks.

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Keep it up! Best wishes! Inspiring!

SoapQueen:
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Keep it up! Best wishes! Inspiring!

How are you,my oyibo

solepager:


Are you trying to be sarcastic or what?

you tell me.....

americanson:
How are you,my oyibo

OgaBoss Sir, I'm good Sir.

SoapQueen:



OgaBoss Sir, I'm good Sir.

oh great. Have you met with young yet?

Premiumwriter:
Abeg Wetin be container? Seriously I've been hearing the word but don't know what it meant in importation

Its called musical instruments ..

hamzyluv:


Its called musical instruments ..

lol... don't mind that guy.

sonnie10:


Only banks can officially issue a Form M and not agents. Any other way you go about it is backyard business.

According to Connoisseur, some Agents apply for the Form M from the bank in advance in expectant of a prospective client and by extension, they use their own Form M and act as the importer, which allows the client (me in this case) to use theirs.

He didn't say agents issue Form M. What he meant is that the agents go to the bank and apply for it but front as the importer, using his or her name but the client will be aware of all these while it is on going, which saves time too!

I am also aware that a form M is valid for 180 days and can be extend to another 180 days, bringing it to 360 days validity usage.

americanson:


According to Connoisseur, some Agents apply for the Form M from the bank in advance in expectant of a prospective client and by extension, they use their own Form M and act as the importer, which allows the client (me in this case) to use theirs.

He didn't say agents issue Form M. What he meant is that the agents go to the bank and apply for it but front as the importer, using his or her name but the client will be aware of all these while it is on going, which saves time too!

I am also aware that a form M is valid for 180 days and can be extend to another 180 days, bringing it to 360 days validity usage.

You got that

Lifeofpolice1:
stop ✋✋ lying or i slap the hell out of your mouth and also block this thread

How can mini importation shipping company charge $20000 how much profit do you hope to gain.

If you lack basic information on shipping fee or company stop posting what you do know

Assumption in life kills like HIV

why couldn't you add something useful to the thread than insulting the Op! I wonder why grown men behave like kids!!

Shugavee:
why couldn't you add something useful to the thread than insulting the Op! I wonder why grown men behave like kids!!

sorry na
I have change and besides the thread is over

Shugavee:
why couldn't you add something useful to the thread than insulting the Op! I wonder why grown men behave like kids!!

He got my two accounts banned because I retaliated after he had insulted me and then he goes around looking for investors that will invest in his transport business. I already told him.... that business will never materialize.

americanson:
oh great. Have you met with young yet?

Just got home! Had the time of my life! Was a great and fun meet.

SoapQueen:


Just got home! Had the time of my life! Was a great and fun meet.

oh wow congrats.

SoapQueen:


Just got home! Had the time of my life! Was a great and fun meet.

I replied your PM from days ago and dropped my real email. Do well to check.

americanson:
I replied your PM from days ago and dropped my real email. Do well to check.

Replied. I'm groggy as hell.

SoapQueen:



Replied. I'm groggy as hell.

sorry. Hope u didn't take alcohol?

SoapQueen:



Replied. I'm groggy as hell.

didn't get ur reply.

americanson:
sorry. Hope u didn't take alcohol?

Hells nah.. I don't drink at all.

SoapQueen:



Hells nah.. I don't drink at all.

okay. Didn't see any reply from u though. Happy Sunday

RealityShot:
is it you that should be looking for a shipping agent?
Is that not the work of the selling company?
Except of course you are buying things from different companies and loading them together into one container, right?

I will suggest Maersk Nig. Ltd. I see lots of containers in their name.
Contact them see if they can help you.

my thoughts exactly