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Does The Bible Advocate For Slavery? by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:16am On Apr 15, 2018
Does The Bible Advocate For Slavery?

"When people talk about slavery in the Bible and say the Bible advocates it, what do you say to them when they refuse to accept that slavery in the Bible is different from slavery centuries ago in America?" Steven Gorges

You have to remember that being anti-Bible for many is a hill upon which they will die. It’s a huge deal, because if the Bible is God's Word then they are accountable for adultery, fornication, for sinful imaginations, and for lust (which the Bible says is adultery of the heart). So their hard-nosed agenda is to prove that the God of the Bible is unjust in His judgments, and therefore any thought of Judgment Day and Hell is bogus.

So they are searching after truth about as much as a man dying of thirst searches after salt. They rather want to bolster their case for an evil Bible, so they fortify themselves with what they think are mistakes, contradictions, and atrocities, etc.

If you explain that biblical slavery was akin to being a servant to pay off debt, the skeptic will just run off to cut and paste more problems he has with the Bible.

The only effective way to convince him is to move away from his contentious intellect (his carnal mind) and appeal to his God-given society-shaped conscience and take him through the moral Law. With the help of God your aim is to make him thirst after righteousness. It was only when I saw my sins (way back in 1972) that I began to see my danger and whisper "What must I do to be made right with God?" The salt of the Law made me thirst for the righteousness that can only be found in Christ.

www.NoahTheMovie.com (not the unbiblical Russell Crowe version).

Source: https://www.facebook.com/official.Ray.Comfort 15 April 2014 at 15:44 ·
Re: Does The Bible Advocate For Slavery? by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:10am On Jan 31, 2023
Why write about slavery in the Bible?

Slavery is an important topic because it deals with morality.

Read more at, http://ow.ly/z3fZ50MCMSS
Re: Does The Bible Advocate For Slavery? by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:11am On Feb 03, 2023
"What are the different kinds of slavery in the world?"

See the following table is meant to illustrate the differences between the forms of slavery at http://ow.ly/IuR050MCOiX

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Re: Does The Bible Advocate For Slavery? by jaephoenix(m): 11:26am On Feb 03, 2023
Ephesians 6:5-8 Paul states, “Slaves, be obedient to your human masters with fear and trembling, in sincerity of heart, as to Christ” which is Paul instructing slaves to obey their master. Similar statements regarding obedient slaves can be found in Colossians 3:22-24, 1 Timothy 6:1-2, and Titus 2:9-10.

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Re: Does The Bible Advocate For Slavery? by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:11pm On Feb 03, 2023
"Why didn’t God stop slavery in the Bible?"

This is a frequent question addressed at the following link: http://ow.ly/t5Ks50MCQ9c

Re: Does The Bible Advocate For Slavery? by jaephoenix(m): 3:01pm On Feb 03, 2023
OLAADEGBU:
"Why didn’t God stop slavery in the Bible?"

This is a frequent question addressed at the following link: http://ow.ly/t5Ks50MCQ9c

I picked up this excerpt from your article. The article basically was saying god was right in allowing and permitting slavery.

God permits evil in the world, slavery included, because that is the nature of the fallen world that is coupled with our freedom
So going by the above bullshit, why didn't god allow murder, lying? Why did he bother about the 10 Commandments if its the nature of the fallen world?

Op, please don't dodge this question and point me to another cretarded article. Thank you

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Re: Does The Bible Advocate For Slavery? by Image123(m): 3:15pm On Feb 03, 2023
jaephoenix:


I picked up this excerpt from your article. The article basically was saying god was right in allowing and permitting slavery.

God permits evil in the world, slavery included, because that is the nature of the fallen world that is coupled with our freedom
So going by the above bullshit, why didn't god allow murder, lying? Why did he bother about the 10 Commandments if its the nature of the fallen world?

Op, please don't dodge this question and point me to another cretarded article. Thank you

What is the difference between a slave and a servant?
Re: Does The Bible Advocate For Slavery? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:16pm On Feb 03, 2023
At this the serpent said to the woman: “You certainly will not die. For God knows that in the very day you eat from it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like God, knowing good and bad.” Genesis 3:4-5

After the rebellion in the garden of Eden most humans wants to become gods over their fellow humans that is what led to slavery. Proverbs 22:7
So until God's Kingdom comes slavery will always be part of Satan's system of rule because without some humans serving as gods {Psalms 82:6} over their fellowman Satan's agents/worshipers have nothing to gain as they have no hope of a resurrection.
Paul the apostle admonished his brothers in the faith not to think of ending slavery through a revolution rather they should continue praying for God's Kingdom where everyone will have all things equal:

They will build houses and live in them, And they will plant vineyards and eat their fruitage. They will not build for someone else to inhabit, Nor will they plant for others to eat. For the days of my people will be like the days of a tree, And the work of their hands my chosen ones will enjoy to the full They will not toil for nothing, Nor will they bear children for distress, Because they are the offspring made up of those blessed by Jehovah, And their descendants with them! Isaiah 65:21-23

Today Satan's agents have modernized slavery so that many are still working really hard just for few to enjoy all the benefits while the ones laboring and their children are hopeless and helpless their masters (gods) are living like kings with their children. Ecclesiastes 4:1

All these will end when God's kingdom come until then true Christians who have the opportunity to have the means should know that it's like a snare for them {1Corinthians 7:31} because if care is not taken the power of riches may make them undermine their God {Proverbs 30:8-9} just as Satan promised Adam and Eve to forget about God and do whatever pleases them after all they themselves have become gods on their own! Genesis 3:4-5 smiley
Re: Does The Bible Advocate For Slavery? by LordReed(m): 3:17pm On Feb 03, 2023
jaephoenix:


I picked up this excerpt from your article. The article basically was saying god was right in allowing and permitting slavery.

God permits evil in the world, slavery included, because that is the nature of the fallen world that is coupled with our freedom
So going by the above bullshit, why didn't god allow murder, lying? Why did he bother about the 10 Commandments if its the nature of the fallen world?

Op, please don't dodge this question and point me to another cretarded article. Thank you

Oh the god allows murder and lying...when it suits him. LoLz.

As side from the Abrahamic god, other god concept holders don't pretend their gods are bastions of morality. The believers in the Abrahamic god pretend their god is the epitome of morality but turn right around and say he permitted some of the most heinous acts of man's inhumanity to man.

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Re: Does The Bible Advocate For Slavery? by Image123(m): 5:53pm On Feb 03, 2023
LordReed:


Oh the god allows murder and lying...when it suits him. LoLz.

As side from the Abrahamic god, other god concept holders don't pretend their gods are bastions of morality. The believers in the Abrahamic god pretend their god is the epitome of morality but turn right around and say he permitted some of the most heinous acts of man's inhumanity to man.

Are you a bastion of morality? If no, who is a bastion of morality?
Re: Does The Bible Advocate For Slavery? by LordReed(m): 5:57pm On Feb 03, 2023
Image123:


Are you a bastion of morality? If no, who is a bastion of morality?

Nope and no one.

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Re: Does The Bible Advocate For Slavery? by Dtruthspeaker: 6:08pm On Feb 03, 2023
jaephoenix:
Ephesians 6:5-8 Paul states, “Slaves, be obedient to your human masters with fear and trembling, in sincerity of heart, as to Christ” which is Paul instructing slaves to obey their master. Similar statements regarding obedient slaves can be found in Colossians 3:22-24, 1 Timothy 6:1-2, and Titus 2:9-10.

That is your father, Satan's attempt to replicate the Bible in his version. God's Bible said "servants".
Re: Does The Bible Advocate For Slavery? by Dtruthspeaker: 6:09pm On Feb 03, 2023
Image123:


Are you a bastion of morality? If no, who is a bastion of morality?

Certainly Satan indwells like reed can not be moral. grin
Re: Does The Bible Advocate For Slavery? by Dtruthspeaker: 6:19pm On Feb 03, 2023
LordReed:


Oh the god allows murder and lying...when it suits him. LoLz.

Satan's spokesman, LyingReed has come with his lies again.

LordReed:

As side from the Abrahamic god, other god concept holders don't pretend their gods are bastions of morality. The believers in the Abrahamic god pretend their god is the epitome of morality but turn right around and say he permitted some of the most heinous acts of man's inhumanity to man.

Morality dictates that "just is" must be served and God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is most Just above all.

And of course how can you sons of devils appreciate morality and just is when you sons of devils are the doers of immoralities and the people whom just is pursues?

Kaheen! Devil make una comot for here una no get right to talk for dis matter.
Re: Does The Bible Advocate For Slavery? by LordReed(m): 7:56pm On Feb 03, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


Satan's spokesman, LyingReed has come with his lies again.



Morality dictates that "just is" must be served and God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is most Just above all.

And of course how can you sons of devils appreciate morality and just is when you sons of devils are the doers of immoralities and the people whom just is pursues?

Kaheen! Devil make una comot for here una no get right to talk for dis matter.

LoLz. Thanks for confirming what I said. Bwahahahahaha!

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Re: Does The Bible Advocate For Slavery? by jaephoenix(m): 8:21pm On Feb 03, 2023
Image123:


What is the difference between a slave and a servant?

Slave
a person who is forced to work for and obey another and is considered to be their property; an enslaved person. He is usually abducted, against his/her will

Servant
a person who performs duties for others, especially a person employed in a house on domestic duties or as a personal attendant. He is a free born and gets remunerations

Any other questions, kind sire angry

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Re: Does The Bible Advocate For Slavery? by jaephoenix(m): 8:23pm On Feb 03, 2023
Image123:


Are you a bastion of morality? If no, who is a bastion of morality?
You glibly dodged the question. Theists love this attack-the-messenger-ignore-the-message antics

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Re: Does The Bible Advocate For Slavery? by jaephoenix(m): 8:29pm On Feb 03, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


That is your father, Satan's attempt to replicate the Bible in his version. God's Bible said "servants".

These are what the bible versions say

Ephesians 6:5
New International Version
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.

New Living Translation
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ.

English Standard Version
Bondservants, obey your earthly masters with fear and trembling, with a sincere heart, as you would Christ,

Berean Standard Bible
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear and sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.

Berean Literal Bible
Slaves, obey the earthly masters with fear and trembling, in sincerity of your heart as to Christ,

King James Bible
Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ;

New King James Version
Bondservants, be obedient to those who are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in sincerity of heart, as to Christ;

New American Standard Bible
Slaves, be obedient to those who are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in the sincerity of your heart, as to Christ;

NASB 1995
Slaves, be obedient to those who are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in the sincerity of your heart, as to Christ;

NASB 1977
Slaves, be obedient to those who are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in the sincerity of your heart, as to Christ;

Legacy Standard Bible
Slaves, be obedient to those who are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in the integrity of your heart, as to Christ;

Amplified Bible
Slaves, be obedient to those who are your earthly masters, with respect for authority, and with a sincere heart [seeking to please them], as [service] to Christ—

Christian Standard Bible
Slaves, obey your human masters with fear and trembling, in the sincerity of your heart, as you would Christ.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
Slaves, obey your human masters with fear and trembling, in the sincerity of your heart, as to Christ.


Unfortunately I don't have the honor of mutilating your bible yet.. These Bible versions happen to be the older ones. The more recent ones are the ones changing it to 'servants' when they realized their gaffes cheesy
But even at that, the contexts point to slaves.

Judging from your post, that means the devil wrote your bible. I didn't say so. You did grin

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Re: Does The Bible Advocate For Slavery? by Dtruthspeaker: 9:08am On Feb 04, 2023
jaephoenix:


Unfortunately I don't have the honor of mutilating your bible yet.. These Bible versions happen to be the older ones. The more recent ones are the ones changing it to 'servants' when they realized their gaffes cheesy
But even at that, the contexts point to slaves.

Judging from your post, that means the devil wrote your bible. I didn't say so. You did grin

See, if you were not mad, you would have seen that those words mean respect your lawful authority and ruler like parents, elders, etc (masters).

Nothing about approval of slavery, RATHER IT IS ONLY GOD WHO COMMANDED THAT SLAVES MUST BE FREED IN THE SABBATH YEAR. THE ONLY ONE WHO FREED SLAVES
Re: Does The Bible Advocate For Slavery? by jaephoenix(m): 9:50am On Feb 04, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


See, if you were not mad, you would have seen that those words mean respect your lawful authority and ruler like parents, elders, etc (masters).

Nothing about approval of slavery, RATHER IT IS ONLY GOD WHO COMMANDED THAT SLAVES MUST BE FREED IN THE SABBATH YEAR. THE ONLY ONE WHO FREED SLAVES
Can you point out one verse in your fairytale that castigated slavery? Just one. He said to release slave after they have suffered for 6 years, getting thrashed, whipped, dehumanized. It's just like a girl who has an abusive boyfriend. After r@ping and beating the shit outta her, the guys friend (yhwh) would tell the guy, "after 7 years you can release her", what happened to blasting the guy, telling him off that he's wrong, harassing him about his wrongdoing, even reporting to the police if possible. And then the friend turns to the abused girl and says"Please suck his dick properly, don't be disobedient. When he says jump outta the window, do it quickly head first etc"


Here are your fairytale verses about slavery

Leviticus 25:44-46
44 “ ‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves

Exodus 21:20-21
20 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result,
21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property

Titus 2:9-10
9 Teach slaves to be subject to their masters in everything, to try to please them, not to talk back to them

5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ

22 Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to curry their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord.

1 All who are under the yoke of slavery should consider their masters worthy of full respect, so that God’s name and our teaching may not be slandered

18 Slaves, in reverent fear of God submit yourselves to your masters, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh

Oh what a loving god cheesy

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Re: Does The Bible Advocate For Slavery? by LordReed(m): 10:26am On Feb 04, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


See, if you were not mad, you would have seen that those words mean respect your lawful authority and ruler like parents, elders, etc (masters).

Nothing about approval of slavery, RATHER IT IS ONLY GOD WHO COMMANDED THAT SLAVES MUST BE FREED IN THE SABBATH YEAR. THE ONLY ONE WHO FREED SLAVES

That applied ONLY TO HEBREW slaves. Slaves from other nations were to be held as property FOREVER.

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Re: Does The Bible Advocate For Slavery? by Dtruthspeaker: 11:01am On Feb 04, 2023
jaephoenix:

Can you point out one verse in your fairytale that castigated slavery? Just one.

I will give you 7.

1) Leviticus 19:18 "Thou shall not steal (whether persons or things. Exodus 20:15/17 expanded its scope) neither deal falsely".

It is dealing falsely to take a houseboy/girl for service which is what you told their lawful Masters (parents) only for you to turn them to slaves in your house and beating and evil treating them.

2) Leviticus 25:17 "Ye shall not therefore oppress one another; but thou shalt fear thy God:"

3) Exodus 23:9 "Thou shalt not oppress a stranger:

4) Exodus 20:21 "Thou shalt neither vex a stranger nor oppress him:

5) Exodus 20:22 "ye shall not afflict ...a fatherless child".

6) Exodus 23:2 "Thou shalt not follow a multitude to do evil:"

7) Exodus 23:6 "Thou shalt not wrest the judgement of thy poor in his cause"


jaephoenix:

He said to release slave after they have suffered for 6 years, getting thrashed, whipped, dehumanized. It's just like a girl who has an abusive boyfriend...

The word "who has'' already shows you that this is what God met on ground when He came to deal with the people of Israel.

They had already taken slaves and used to having slaves before He came exactly as Africa was already used to having more than one wives before God was introduced to us and now having one wife is part of our living.

So this is God laying the first Law prohibiting slavery AND RELEASING ALL SLAVES WHO HAVE BEEN TAKEN BEFORE HIS COMING, WHICH AS YOU CAN SEE BY THE TIME OF THE JUDGES, YOU DO NOT REALLY SEE ANY SLAVE AROUND, ONLY CONTRACTS OF SERVICE,

WHAT A GREAT GOOD GOD WHO SET THE CAPTIVES FREE FROM EVIL PEOPLE
Re: Does The Bible Advocate For Slavery? by Dtruthspeaker: 11:25am On Feb 04, 2023
LordReed:


That applied ONLY TO HEBREW slaves. Slaves from other nations were to be held as property FOREVER.

Not True Satan.

"To the Hebrew first is" The Law.

It is a case of Freedom will be given to the Hebrew FIRST, then others will follow. That is The Plan and the order of things.
Re: Does The Bible Advocate For Slavery? by LordReed(m): 12:17pm On Feb 04, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


Not True Satan.

"To the Hebrew first is" The Law.

It is a case of Freedom will be given to the Hebrew FIRST, then others will follow. That is The Plan and the order of things.



Where is that written in the Bible?
Re: Does The Bible Advocate For Slavery? by Dtruthspeaker: 12:20pm On Feb 04, 2023
LordReed:


Where is that written in the Bible?

Serpent, where is what written?
Re: Does The Bible Advocate For Slavery? by LordReed(m): 12:51pm On Feb 04, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


Serpent, where is what written?

Where is it written that the slaves from other nations were to be released?

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Re: Does The Bible Advocate For Slavery? by jaephoenix(m): 3:43pm On Feb 04, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


I will give you 7.

1) Leviticus 19:18 "Thou shall not steal (whether persons or things. Exodus 20:15/17 expanded its scope) neither deal falsely".

It is dealing falsely to take a houseboy/girl for service which is what you told their lawful Masters (parents) only for you to turn them to slaves in your house and beating and evil treating them.

2) Leviticus 25:17 "Ye shall not therefore oppress one another; but thou shalt fear thy God:"

3) Exodus 23:9 "Thou shalt not oppress a stranger:

4) Exodus 20:21 "Thou shalt neither vex a stranger nor oppress him:

5) Exodus 20:22 "ye shall not afflict ...a fatherless child".

6) Exodus 23:2 "Thou shalt not follow a multitude to do evil:"

7) Exodus 23:6 "Thou shalt not wrest the judgement of thy poor in his cause"




The word "who has'' already shows you that this is what God met on ground when He came to deal with the people of Israel.

They had already taken slaves and used to having slaves before He came exactly as Africa was already used to having more than one wives before God was introduced to us and now having one wife is part of our living.

So this is God laying the first Law prohibiting slavery AND RELEASING ALL SLAVES WHO HAVE BEEN TAKEN BEFORE HIS COMING, WHICH AS YOU CAN SEE BY THE TIME OF THE JUDGES, YOU DO NOT REALLY SEE ANY SLAVE AROUND, ONLY CONTRACTS OF SERVICE,

WHAT A GREAT GOOD GOD WHO SET THE CAPTIVES FREE FROM EVIL PEOPLE
Youre just talking bullshit.
I said where yhwh said taking of slaves is wrong, not stealing or maltreatment.
Is he not the same god that told israelites to sack a city and take the people there as slaves?
If he says don't take slaves then he'd be contradicting himself, don't you think so?

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Re: Does The Bible Advocate For Slavery? by jaephoenix(m): 3:45pm On Feb 04, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


Not True Satan.

"To the Hebrew first is" The Law.

It is a case of Freedom will be given to the Hebrew FIRST, then others will follow. That is The Plan and the order of things.
There was no inclusion of others


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Re: Does The Bible Advocate For Slavery? by Image123(m): 7:43pm On Feb 08, 2023
LordReed:


Nope and no one.

cheesy cheesy You're just jealous.
Re: Does The Bible Advocate For Slavery? by Image123(m): 7:46pm On Feb 08, 2023
jaephoenix:

You glibly dodged the question. Theists love this attack-the-messenger-ignore-the-message antics

There was no question in what i quoted, stop sleeping when typing.
Re: Does The Bible Advocate For Slavery? by Image123(m): 7:52pm On Feb 08, 2023
jaephoenix:


Slave
a person who is forced to work for and obey another and is considered to be their property; an enslaved person. He is usually abducted, against his/her will

Servant
a person who performs duties for others, especially a person employed in a house on domestic duties or as a personal attendant. He is a free born and gets remunerations

Any other questions, kind sire angry


What is the word used for slave in the Bible, what is the word used for servant in the Bible?
Re: Does The Bible Advocate For Slavery? by LordReed(m): 9:44pm On Feb 08, 2023
Image123:


cheesy cheesy You're just jealous.

LMFAO! Jealous of a fairytale? What a joke. Bwahahahahaha!

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