Gekko:

I am paying roughly the equivalent of 6000 naira for uninterrupted electricty abroad, isn't Nigerians paying more to buy diesel to power generators?

Kobojunkie:

But how many Nigerians can currently afford the generators and paying of diesel? If Government spends 72 Billion to generate electricity for all the country, how many people will be able to afford the uninterrupted electricity then? How many people can afford 6000 Naira a month today(in Nigeria) to afford electricity, assuming that will be the cost when we finally fix the power issue? Unless we are advocating Government not only supply electricity but also subsidize the cost for seriously low income households(which happen to be the majority in our country), the cost issue is a real problem that we need a solution to, in my opinion.

Moves:

@ Kobo; I would say about 40% of the working population would be able to afford N6000 per month towards electricity but we all are not going to use the same amount of energy~~

Moves:

Moreover~pricing patterns canbe used and business users would pay more as in the west~ we energy charges during the daytime is more expensive~ affordability cannot be used as an excuse to lack of investment for 24\7 electricity.

netotse:





it is already possible for states to own their own distribution and indeed generation apparatus. . . there's a process that has to be followed that's all, and i can promise you, jonathan is not going to change the process, the statement he made was an appeal to emotions, when he asks the minister of state how far, they'll explain what's on ground to him and he'll hold his tongue. . .c'est fini

Choco5:

If electricity is provided people will pay for it. Its not about any 40% of the population. Stop pulling statistics out of your buttholes. If constant electricity is available, there is no Nigerian that will cut his own light saying he cannot pay for it. How many Nigerians can afford BRT by all this statistics? After all they are supposed to live on 1 dollar a day.
Now for the current administration to make it possible is another case. Its still in talking phase After all, in 2007 a dead president spoke of 10000mw.

Kobojunkie:


How will they pay for it?

How much did the BRT project cost Government? How much does Government make from the use of the service? Is the project running a loss or breaking even each month? Or does it, like most other government projects out there enjoy influx of 'free' government money to continue?

So, Nigerians who live on $1 a day( $30 a month) can afford to pay $30 a month for electricty(lets assume that is the base cost we get at the end of it all), and in addition afford rent and food?

edoyad:

I now understand it when some people say many NLers post from abroad and don't know didley squat about Nigeria. What is 6k a month for stable electricity ?
Many of those people who live in face-me-i-face-yous have i-pass-my-neighbours running on petrol bought at 70 naira per liter if you don't know . Even unemployed Nigerians who sell recharge cards and charge phone batteries for a living have gen. sets which they also have to service regularly. Look at the rubbish some ignoram(uses)i are saying here, that 6k is too much to pay so the plan is not viable Did anyone ever tell you that 6k was the flat rate ? Nigerians already pay some of the highest rates for phone calls so what are you on about ?

Choco5:

So what you are saying is that Nigerians cannot afford it and therefore electricity should not be provided because they simply cannot afford it? How is this even a point of argument?

Please, the real issue is if Jonathan can and will actually improve power in Nigeria. Is this the same old gisting that we heard when Obj and Yaradua came in? Can he come through with this his plan to sanitise distribution

netotse:

well if we get the electricity up and running, it'll stimulate a lot of sectors and hopefully increasing the size of the working population. . .

while i'm glad that you understand the issues at play, you seem to be focusing on the problems and not giving any thought to the solutions, truth is we need creative people to reason a way out of this mess, cos government cant even fund the development of the sector entirely by themselves. . .best they can do is let private companies do it and subsidize. . .

netotse:

well if we get the electricity up and running, it'll stimulate a lot of sectors and hopefully increasing the size of the working population. . .

while i'm glad that you understand the issues at play, you seem to be focusing on the problems and not giving any thought to the solutions, truth is we need creative people to reason a way out of this mess, cos government cant even fund the development of the sector entirely by themselves. . .best they can do is let private companies do it and subsidize. . .

Choco5:

Absolutely, the private sector must come in to help develop power distribution. After all, how many Nigerians could afford telecom bills when only Nitel was running 090. If these things are available as desired, people will purchase.

edoyad:

I now understand it  when some people say many NLers post from abroad and don't know didley squat about Nigeria. What is 6k a month for stable electricity ?
Many of those people who live in face-me-i-face-yous have i-pass-my-neighbours running on petrol bought at 70 naira per liter if you don't know . Even unemployed Nigerians who sell recharge cards and charge phone batteries for a living have gen. sets which they also have to service regularly. Look at the rubbish some ignoram(uses)i are saying here, that 6k is too much to pay so the plan is not viable Did anyone ever tell you that 6k was the flat rate ? Nigerians already pay some of the highest rates for phone calls so what are you on about ?

Kobojunkie:

Don't pretend to know what I am saying. I only asked you questions of your own assertions in this issue.

Regardless of who, in the end, does provide us electricity, I believe we will have to deal with the cost issue. If the private sector is going to handle this, then Government might have to provide subsidies, just as it has had to in so many other areas. Can our government afford it? The private sector will definitely not want to supply electricity in a situation where they might not be able to recoup their costs in the time shareholders expect. And to the average Nigerian, the issue of cost is definitely of concern.

Kobojunkie:

Nigeria currently pays some of the higest rates out there for telecomm service and what we have now is so many times more expensive than what we had back when Nitel was sole runner.  Just something to add their.

Nitel was run 100% on government money and not a lot of thought was given to making sure to make a profit on services and all.

Choco5:

You have highlighted one problem: That people will not be able to afford electricity. The issue of cost is a concern to everybody around the world not the average Nigerian. What you have said is not peculiar to Nigeria, or a problem that affects Nigerian electricity specially. What is your point, if you are even trying to make a point?


Can Johnathan make good on his promise in 12 months or was it all speech? and HOW can it be done?

Choco5:

You've just shown yourself that your argument of cost is baseless.
Nigerians pay some of the highest rates, but you ask how the average Nigerian will be able to afford electricity? What is this?

Choco5:

Edoyad, netotse and I have shown you that your argument is flawed, but you dont want to 'gree'. LOL. Its not by anger.
Whatever, dont take it harshly.

netotse:

well if we get the electricity up and running, it'll stimulate a lot of sectors and hopefully increasing the size of the working population. . .

while i'm glad that you understand the issues at play, you seem to be focusing on the problems and not giving any thought to the solutions, truth is we need creative people to reason a way out of this mess, cos government cant even fund the development of the sector entirely by themselves. . .best they can do is let private companies do it and subsidize. . .

Choco5:

dont take it harshly.