hey what happened to my expensive thread? ahaa, pls tayo d, jesoul, david, montelike etc etc etc return to base and let us laugh at sarah palin (whom i have been accused of loving )

i have not heard much from her these days. i hope she has a solution for all this spill . . . . anyway, good to know that some politicians just open their mouth and talk like their brain, if any, tells them to . . . . psycho talk

anyway, mr tayo d, it's not that i dont like oil, but i just believe that people should be concerned about the environmental impact of drilling on the local communities. if you've been to the niger-delta region of nigeria and see for yourself the effects of oil drilling on those communities, you would drill with restraint. but the oil lords dont care, and they use the disgruntled tea-party/republicans/conservative ignoramuses to push their selfish agenda which has helped land madam alaska some $12million while the poor protesters are crying about jobs . . i laugh in zulu

anyway, jesoul, as a xtian, i dont hate people. if God created people in his own image and likeness, why should i hate them. i may disagree with them, like i disagree with you, but i wont hate them. rather i'll love them, as i love you too.

montelik, i didnt read that your post. it was too long, i wanted to read it later but nairaland crashed and wiped it all away.

pls bring your contributions and arguments . . and fire . . . and brimstone . . . but no personal abuse . . . except for palin . . . the wise rich one

^^lol. Prez, are you on cheap crack? 

You love Sarah Palin. Adore her. And when she's not in the news cycle its like there's a hole in your heart and emptiness in your soul, yearning with a yearn that is drenched in desparation.

I know of a cure.

Admit your feelings. Talk about it. Share it. It'll be like a form of catharsis, once its out you'll feel relieved and most importantly, able to move on  .

i love her as an entertainer . . . . but i guess the white house loves to see her in the news . . . whenever she is out there opening her mouth, Obama and co perform better in the polls

my only problem is that even the tea party polls dont rate her high as a presidential material. so perhaps they like her as an entertainer too

^ I hate to give you more fodder . . . but I am also one that hopes she doesn't run for president. I like her tons, but I don't think she's the right fit for the highest office in the land. Well, no more than Obama is

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
i knew it,i knew it . . i knew there is a place we agree on. we cant always be against each other all the time

now that it is settled that the comedian from alaska is not fit for office, let me partially agree that obama is not doing well in ofice at the moment. he has let down his supporters by trying to please his political opponents who have sworn to destroy his administration even if it means pulling down the country with it . . . . he plays to the right a lot and takes the left for granted . . . he is in for a shocker. i'm waiting for the day someone will challenge him for a primary run in 20I2

however, pls do not mention Obama and palin in the same sentence

and for peace, take this from me . . . . . . . . . that was an innocent kiss o, no deep meaning _{before ur boyfriend/partner/husband/admirer decends on me}

pres-elect:

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
i knew it,i knew it . . i knew there is a place we agree on. we cant always be against each other all the time

lol. Abi ke

now that it is settled that the comedian from alaska is not fit for office, let me partially agree that obama is not doing well in ofice at the moment. he has let down his supporters by trying to please his political opponents who have sworn to destroy his administration even if it means pulling down the country with it . . . . he plays to the right a lot and takes the left for granted . . . he is in for a shocker. i'm waiting for the day someone will challenge him for a primary run in 20I2

Hmm, call me crazy, but I fail to see where Obama has "pandered" to his opponents or the right in general in an honest effort to appease. Please examples? its been liberal policy after liberal policy.

however, pls do not mention Obama and palin in the same sentence

You're right. That was grossly irresponsible of me to tarnish Sarah's good name by streaking it alongside Obama's 

and for peace, take this from me . . . . . . . . . that was an innocent kiss o, no deep meaning _{before your boyfriend/partner/husband/admirer decends on me}

Lol, I don laugh tire. See how you covered all the bases lol. He is all the above and much more. And I know he wont mind me returning it   

the health care bill without public option . . . . . could have been written by michael steele. ahaaa, i hear it was copied from some guy in boston called . . . uuhmmmm . . . Mitt Rhomney


the current wall street reform, i hear is another pandering to the right . . not sure about that yet.

the wars in afghanistan and irag. what is the US doing in the middle east if not to keep oilling the treasure chest of the republican military industrial complex that president eisenhower warned about in I96I . . .

the spill baby spill pandering to the right. here was a guy who was against drilling and then suddenly he turned around to support it to pander to the right before . . . . . BP happened

i can go on and on . .the guy is just confused. a ''leftist'' supreme court judge retires and he appoints a centrist judge. how can someone like kagan replace someone like stevens?

JeSoul:

but I am also one that hopes she doesn't run for president. I like her tons, but I don't think she's the right fit for the highest office in the land. Well, no more than Obama is

I tend to agree too. Despite my personal partiality to Romney (if only he could squash his liberal tendencies and grow a spine ), I genuinely like Palin and her ideas. Politics could do with more people like her, in both parties and on both sides. Politicians who are straight forward and blunt, people who aren't afraid to say it like they mean it. Also a little populism is necessary as too many politicians have forgotten that the everyday people matter. But unfortunately I don't the US is ready for her now. Genuine populism is sentiment that makes the present political establishment scared and nasty. Its one of the reasons why even the leaders of the Republican party don't really like her. The way the political system is set up I am not sure she would fit as a President, unless she changes her self or the system changes.

montelik:

I tend to agree too. Despite my personal partiality to Romney (if only he could squash his liberal tendencies and grow a spine ), I genuinely like Palin and her ideas. Politics could do with more people like her, in both parties and on both sides. Politicians who are straight forward and blunt, people who aren't afraid to say it like they mean it. Also a little populism is necessary as too many politicians have forgotten that the everyday people matter. But unfortunately I don't the US is ready for her now. Genuine populism is sentiment that makes the present political establishment scared and nasty. Its one of the reasons why even the leaders of the Republican party don't really like her. The way the political system is set up I am not sure she would fit as a President, unless she changes her self or the system changes.

I agree mostly with you Montelik. I'll add another dimension. I think an ideal leader should be attractive to people of every political persuation. A problem I have with the poilitical system in America is if you're right - you always vote and talk and walk right, and if you're left vice versa.

  Palin is far right and stays there. I think an ideal society would require elements and ideas from both extremes to work. Balance is everything and as much as I love her, I don't think she's balanced enough.

You like Romney? hmm . . . no comment for now. lol.

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Now, lets have some target practice fun with our looney lefty Prez 

pres-elect:

the health care bill without public option . . . . . could have been written by michael steele. ahaaa, i hear it was copied from some guy in boston called . . . uuhmmmm . . . Mitt Rhomney

You're kidding right? the HC bill is right-ish? Prez, I ask again, what "ish" are you smoking ehn? You're so far left that anything not left of you, is considered right. Na wa for you oh. As for Romney, don't look to me to defend him, I know first hand the damage he caused in Mass.

the current wall street reform, i hear is another pandering to the right . . not sure about that yet.

ok, when you are sure, come back with your 2 kobo lol.

the wars in afghanistan and irag. what is the US doing in the middle east if not to keep oilling the treasure chest of the republican military industrial complex that president eisenhower warned about in I96I . . .

Pandering to the right? far from it. More like a humpty dumpty cop-out that neither fell to the left or right, but simply sat on the wall. He wanted everyone to love him which is why he couldn't make up his mind and thought a middle of the highway decision would satify us? I tire. You either bring them home or leave them there to finish the job. Pick one and believe it and stick with it. 

the spill baby spill pandering to the right. here was a guy who was against drilling and then suddenly he turned around to support it to pander to the right before . . . . . BP happened

  BP happened for real lol.

i can go on and on . . the guy is just confused.

The truest thing you've said so far 

a ''leftist'' supreme court judge retires and he appoints a centrist judge. how can someone like kagan replace someone like stevens?

I haven't taken the time to examine Kagan's record, but I've heard otherwise. There's hardly any such thing as "centrist" in American politics.

JeSoul:

I agree mostly with you Montelik. I'll add another dimension. I think an ideal leade[/b]r should be attractive to people of every political persuation. A problem I have with the poilitical system in America is if you're right - you always vote and talk and walk right, and if you're left vice versa.

  [b]Palin is far right and stays there. I think an ideal society would require elements and ideas from both extremes to work. Balance is everything and as much as I love her, I don't think she's balanced enough.

I agree and also disagree. Yes Palin is clearly conservative, but if you study her her record in Alaska she isn't beholden to blind ideology either, don't buy the BS. After all why would she have accepted to be McCain's running mate if she was the second coming of Barry Goldwater . Personally I think that a political leader need not appeal to every body. They can have strong convictions, they should also have common sense and also be prepared to listen and work with those with whom they disagree. But I also believe then when one starts trying to find perfect balance between two extremes you can often sacrifice commonsense and logic. After all isn't that how Massachusetts got saddled with "Romneycare", wasn't Romney trying to appeal to both political sentiments in fixing a problem, rather than using his commonsense to see his plan was not the best. He was too busy trying to be "balanced" that he didn't use simple logic.
Abe Lincoln didn't appeal to everyone yet he was a phenomenal president.

I recall my economics professor once said "an equal compromise between two fools, is still a foolish compromise".

As for Romney. I don't know why I just like the guy despite his flaws. Maybe its the hair

montelik:

I agree and also disagree. Yes Palin is clearly conservative, but if you study her her record in Alaska she isn't beholden to blind ideology either, don't buy the BS.

  Abeg no let the casual observer no think say I no love Palin oh!  I recall the speech she gave at the republican covention, men I'm not one given to oratorial skills, but dayum! lol

After all why would she have accepted to be McCain's running mate if she was the second coming of Barry Goldwater . Personally I think that a political leader need not appeal to every body. They can have strong convictions, they should also have common sense and also be prepared to listen and work with those with whom they disagree. But I also believe then when one starts trying to find perfect balance between two extremes you can often sacrifice commonsense and logic. After all isn't that how Massachusetts got saddled with "Romneycare", wasn't Romney trying to appeal to both political sentiments in fixing a problem, rather than using his commonsense to see his plan was not the best. He was too busy trying to be "balanced" that he didn't use simple logic.
Abe Lincoln didn't appeal to everyone yet he was a phenomenal president.

Don't get me wrong, I didn't mean "appeal to everyone" - not at all. I meant appeal to people from all sides, not everyone - that's impossible. All in all, I agree with you. Common sense should rule but unfortunately the actors are enslaved to false party loyalty. And everyone is guilty of it.

I recall my economics professor once said "an equal compromise between two fools, is still a foolish compromise".

Lol. Smart man.

As for Romney. I don't know why I just like the guy despite his flaws. Maybe its the hair

Lol. The hair for where? there's nothing special there now. Granted compared to the other carpets on the heads of lawmakers in Washington, he's not so bad.

montelik:

I agree and also disagree. Yes Palin is clearly conservative, but if you study her her record in Alaska she isn't beholden to blind ideology either, don't buy the BS.

The problem is that she doesnt even have a platform to be honest. Even she has no idea what ideology she subscribes to beyond millitant christianism.

montelik:

After all why would she have accepted to be McCain's running mate if she was the second coming of Barry Goldwater

I'm sure you dont need an ideological basis to accept such an offer.

@montelik
palin accepted to be vice president bc she was tired of being governor of alaska. she has no ideology. she believes she is a good xtian. but she is not. her utterances are not what you expect from God fearing people.

she is just another politician looking for fortunes. she did not see what she wanted in alaska gov house so she went out looking for it. she found it in extreme right wing rhetoric, she made money from it, lots of money, used the tea party platform to make more money. wrote a book that she wont read and perhaps never read(who wrote it?) and the book was bought by people most of whom will never read it . . . . she made more money(praise the lord) bless her soul. but she is not a true xtian. just another politician. period

but she is not all negative . . .she has good looks . . . . has a good marriage(very great thing in this day and age) is anti-abortion(yes, i like people who are anti abortion too . . . _{did jesoul just shout})
anyway, she is not fit for the office of the POTUS

^^^^ I wouldn't have replied. I have long ago learned never to try and argue with self professed "Liberals" when its comes to Palin. It never goes anywhere and it always too personal. But something wrote you caught my attention.

she believes she is a good xtian. but she is not. her utterances are not what you expect from God fearing people,

but she is not a true xtian.

Let start by saying (as a Christian myself) that I don't like associating Christianity with politics. But surely you understand that faith is personal. This the same reaction I had when some people were attacking Obama as not being a true Christian because of his rather harsh views on abortion e.t.c. How can you judge someones faith or lack of it, when your faith is much a matter of the heart as it is your deeds.

montelik:

^^^^ I wouldn't have replied. I have long ago learned never to try and argue with self professed "Liberals" when its comes to Palin. It never goes anywhere and it always too personal.

good decision

But something wrote you caught my attention.Let start by saying (as a Christian myself) that I don't like associating Christianity with politics. But surely you understand that faith is personal. This the same reaction I had when some people were attacking Obama as not being a true Christian because of his rather harsh views on abortion e.t.c. How can you judge someones faith or lack of it, when your faith is much a matter of the heart as it is your deeds.

i'm inclined to agree with this statement.

is it just me or is there something i dont understand.
the same people that said Obama is socialist for ''taking over'' GM,
the same people who talk of govt take over,
the same people who talk of small govt,
the same people who talk of free enterprise,
the same people who publicly rejected the stimulus(and actually accepted it secretly before boasting about it publicly again . . .
the same people are now asking Obama to take over BP.

what is there in these people that blocks common sense from entering their brain?
and even now bobby jindal (who thought he will be the next president of white america  . . .lol) is asking the federal govt to help him out of a mess made by a capitalist company . . .

and senator lamar who wanted govt out of healthcare wants govt to run BP . . haaa

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/05/23/lamar-bp-takeover/

she's baaaaaaaaack . . . . . . . my secret lover lovee

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/may/24/nation/la-na-palin-oil-20100524

she says obama's ties to oil is what has led to his ''poor response'' to the gulf oil crisis . . .
dear sarah
when will you have brains? perhaps you dont need it, you have the money that brains cant get or perhaps you got the brains-to use and decieve the tea fools into thinking you are there for them while you make your millions off their support

ok, here: the crisis in the gulf was brought by a free enterprise organisation and not govt or natural disaster. so what about get your govt off our mess? . . oooops

you and old john got more than obama did from oil during the campaign
now that obama wants to reform the regulating arm of govt will your cronies in congree agree?

o sarah get some brains . . . .
spill baby spill . . . . . . . . .

                      this woman is an idiot

@Pres-elect,

Aren't you tired of being wrong all the time? Seun spared you the shame of keeping your misinformation on the www by deleting your first thread where you falsely accused your nemesis - Sarah Palin of keeping mute after the oil spill. However, you have chosen to continue to spread misinformation on this new thread. How right-hearted though wrong-headed can you be?

@Pres-elect,

is it just me or is there something i dont understand.
the same people that said Obama is socialist for ''taking over'' GM,
the same people who talk of govt take over,
the same people who talk of small govt,
the same people who talk of free enterprise,
the same people who publicly rejected the stimulus(and actually accepted it secretly before boasting about it publicly again . . .
the same people are now asking Obama to take over BP.

No one is asking to take over BP. Why do you take things out of context? What they are talking about is the clean up operation. I know it is hard for you, but please try harder to be objective.

what is there in these people that blocks common sense from entering their brain?
and even now bobby jindal (who thought he will be the next president of white america . . .lol) is asking the federal govt to help him out of a mess made by a capitalist company . . .

That's a lie. Bobby Jindal is asking for a Federal permit to do the job himself. Unfortunately, bureaucracy is making it impossible for him to get the permit. He wants to build sand dikes to prevent the oil from coming to shore. To do that, he will need a Federal permit which is not forthcoming. You are either lying deliberately or grossly misinformed.

@pres-elect,

she's baaaaaaaaack . . . . . . . my secret lover lovee

There is nothing secret about it. We all know about your underying love for Alaska's most prominent figure.

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/may/24/nation/la-na-palin-oil-20100524

she says obama's ties to oil is what has led to his ''poor response'' to the gulf oil crisis . . .

This cannot be proven or refuted. It is just a thought she puts out there for people with brains to consider.

dear sarah
when will you have brains? perhaps you dont need it, you have the money that brains cant get or perhaps you got the brains-to use and decieve the tea fools into thinking you are there for them while you make your millions off their support

This staement smirks of jealousy.

ok, here: the crisis in the gulf was brought by a free enterprise organisation and not govt or natural disaster. so what about get your govt off our mess? . . oooops

Katrina was caused by a natural disaster. Why then was Bush to blame?

you and old john got more than obama did from oil during the campaign

This is not a factual statement. Where do you go off arguing without facts?

now that obama wants to reform the regulating arm of govt will your cronies in congree agree?

Regulate? Bush cited this same BP rig at least 6 times during his Presidency. Obama on the other hand was about to award the same rig the top safety award as a model of oil rig safety. What Obama needs is not new power, but to do his job.

I have one recommendation for you since you are so uninformed. In the words of Obama, "shut the damn hole".

correct me if i'm wrong. this is what i heard. and i'm sure i understand english well well well well and i know what this question and its reply mean
question:but would you favor taking over of bp if that became necessary?
ans: sure, that's up to the president to decide. .

educate me abeg

and talking about jindal, why does he want the fed govt and BP to do something about the spill? why does he want louisiana govt to do something about the mess brought by private company? why? will he use LA tax payers money to solve the problem created by private enterprise?

those who want Obama to solve this BP-sarah-spill-baby-spill-mess, dont they know that decades of small govt means that govt is not capable of solving this mess. they want obama to now be the punch bag when the feds come in and are unable to stop a mess by BP abi?

small govt indeed. small govt only when govt wants to help poor people or minorities

spill baby spill

@pres-elect,

correct me if i'm wrong. this is what i heard. and i'm sure i understand english well well well well and i know what this question and its reply mean
question:but would you favor taking over of bp if that became necessary?
ans: sure, that's up to the president to decide.

Maybe you should read the article you posted again and see that the writer put it in context for you. The video snapshot does not tell the whole story. Here's the article again: "Today, on CBS’ Face the Nation, Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-TN) — who spends a lot of his time fearmongering about various government takeovers — seemed to advocate that the government simply let BP off the hook and take over the clean-up effort" Can you see now that the takeovr effort is strictly over the clean-up effort and not takeover the company. How can the US govt take over a British Company?

educate me abeg

I have informed you. It is left to you to decide if you will get some education.

and talking about jindal, why does he want the fed govt and BP to do something about the spill? why does he want louisiana govt to do something about the mess brought by private company? why? will he use LA tax payers money to solve the problem created by private enterprise?

Let me put this in a way that you will understand. If as a renter I burst up my water pipe in the house, would you say it is just my problem even though you are the Lanlord? BP is only leasing the oil well while the US is the Landlord. A problem with BP' flat will affect everybody else in the apartment. The Landlord's intervention is only reasonable to protect other residents of the house.

those who want Obama to solve this BP-sarah-spill-baby-spill-mess, dont they know that decades of small govt means that govt is not capable of solving this mess. they want obama to now be the punch bag when the feds come in and are unable to stop a mess by BP abi?

Again the Landlord/Renter example will suffice. So why should I give the Landlord unlimited access and power over my apartment just because he is required to put contingency plans in place in case of a disaster? You mean he can just come into my house unannounced, dip his hands into my pot of soup uninvited simply because I am renting his apartment?

small govt indeed. small govt only when govt wants to help poor people or minorities

That I rent your apartment does not give you the power to take my garri and feed my neighbour simply because my neighbour is hungry.

spill baby spill

think bobo think.

pres-elect:

she's baaaaaaaaack . . . . . . . my secret lover lovee

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/may/24/nation/la-na-palin-oil-20100524

she says obama's ties to oil is what has led to his ''poor response'' to the gulf oil crisis . . .
dear sarah
when will you have brains? perhaps you dont need it, you have the money that brains cant get or perhaps you got the brains-to use and decieve the tea fools into thinking you are there for them while you make your millions off their support

ok, here: the crisis in the gulf was brought by a free enterprise organisation and not govt or natural disaster. so what about get your govt off our mess? . . oooops

you and old john got more than obama did from oil during the campaign
now that obama wants to reform the regulating arm of govt will your cronies in congree agree?

o sarah get some brains . . . .
spill baby spill . . . . . . . . .

                      this woman is an idiot

Small government does not mean no government. Promoting offshore drilling does not mean that one should not apply strict and clear regulations. The facts are that the federal government allowed BP to drill after exempting them from the required environmental impact studies and now that disaster has struck they are failing to take appropriate measures to deal with the crisis and are slowing the ability of Gov Jindal to do the work they won't do.

The federal government licensed and approved BP's drilling plans (including emergency plans regarding a situation just like this), therefore they can not refuse to accept partial responsibility for what has happened. You can't isolate BP "a free market company" for failures without also pointing out the failures of government to administer proper oversight. You seem not to understand the nature of oil drilling particularly in deep sea, the duty of the government is not just to grant licenses and stand back. Nobody who has advocated drilling has said there should not be strict oversight.

Please stop indulging in straw man arguments to try and convince yourself of your own positions.

let us get this right, the govt should spend tax payers money to clear a mess made by BP? what happened to too much spending? what happened to deficit? now bobby jindal will spend tax payer money to clean up a BP mess. why? the govt should clean up it's own mess; reform the regulatory body responsible for regulating the oil industry. that is what govt should do.

o yes, is that not what the conservatives have always wanted. less govt interference with private business?
ahaaaa, the govt should be involved in this case bc it affects american citizens huh? private enterprise is affecting US citizens therefore the govt should be involved, isnt it? wait a minute, this is familiar:
when private companies(big oil) ''misbehaves'' and citizens are affected. the govt should intervene but
when private companies(insurance industry) ''misbehaves'' and citizens are affected(44,000 deaths yrly due to not having insurance) the govt should not intervene

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha aha ;Dhahahahaha . . ha ha ha ha ha ha

spill baby spill . . . . . . .

that woman is an idiot . . . her supporters? . . . . . . . . brainless

no, the government should not be involved. its a recession,it will cost a lot of money, the govt cant afford it. no. this is BP's business and the BP should take care of it. it shouldnt matter that the people may suffer what matters is that the govt cant afford it. if 44,000 americans die every yr bc they dont have health insurance and the govt is not to intervene in private matters, why should the govt intervene in private company oil spill? it shouldnt matter if the whole gulf coast is wiped. as long as it is in the realm of private enterprise then the private enterprise should take care of it. after all this isnt a natural disaster like katrina where no private enterprise like BP or Humana may be blamed.

govt should only take care of govt affairs like wars, military, border security, justice, etc and not oil spill cleaning

small govt all the way

i'm loving it . . . . it really feels good to be a republican

@pres-elect,

let us get this right, the govt should spend tax payers money to clear a mess made by BP? what happened to too much spending? what happened to deficit? now bobby jindal will spend tax payer money to clean up a BP mess. why? the govt should clean up it's own mess; reform the regulatory body responsible for regulating the oil industry. that is what govt should do.

You are either lying deliberately or totally misinformed. How many times does it have to be made clear that BP will be responsible for the cost of cleaning up the oil spill?  Who do you think is paying the 20,000 or so workers that have now been employed to clean up the mess - Obama?  Did Kevin Costner ask for tax payer money to foot the multi-million dollar cecentrifugeshat BP is now testing even though Obama and his minnions don't want to employ the proven method?

o yes, is that not what the conservatives have always wanted. less govt interference with private business?

This is where you show your derth of knowledge.  The role of the govt in the market is not to pick winners and losers or to compete, but rather to ensure that there is a level playing field for all concernedd to punish fraud.  How does this fall into any of the categories?  Can you figure that out?

ahaaaa, the govt should be involved in this case bc it affects american citizens huh? private enterprise is affecting US citizens therefore the govt should be involved, isnt it? wait a minute, this is familiar:
when private companies(big oil) ''misbehaves'' and citizens are affected. the govt should intervene but
when private companies(insurance industry) ''misbehaves'' and citizens are affected(44,000 deaths yrly due to not having insurance) the govt should not intervene       

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha aha         ;Dhahahahaha . . ha ha ha ha ha ha

Tell me, how many people in America are denied access to healthcare because they have no insurance?  The answer is none.  So stop all these misnformation and the bogus figures you are pasting around the www.  You mean it is now a crime if I sell products that not everybody can afford?  You mean makers of Lamboughini are crLamborghinit because I and several others who would love to have one can't afford it?         

spill baby spill . . . . . . .

think bobo think

that woman is an idiot . . . her supporters? . . . . . . . . brainless

In one fell swoop,you have called millions of people brainless.  That sounds more like the words of an idiot than anything I've ever heard Palin say.

@Pres-elect,

no, the government should not be involved. its a recession,it will cost a lot of money, the govt cant afford it. no. this is BP's business and the BP should take care of it. it shouldnt matter that the people may suffer what matters is that the govt cant afford it. if 44,000 americans die every yr bc they dont have health insurance and the govt is not to intervene in private matters, why should the govt intervene in private company oil spill? it shouldnt matter if the whole gulf coast is wiped. as long as it is in the realm of private enterprise then the private enterprise should take care of it. after all this isnt a natural disaster like katrina where no private enterprise like BP or Humana may be blamed.

govt should only take care of govt affairs like wars, military, border security, justice, etc and not oil spill cleaning

small govt all the way

i'm loving it . . . . it really feels good to be a republican

For our information, the govt is not cleaning up this mess. BP is doing it. Any cost implication to govt will be paid for by BP. Sorry if you are one of those evil people who own BP shares.

At this point, many in Louisiana want to protect their shores, but like their Governor, Bobby Jindal, Obama has refuesed to give them permit to do the work. Can't you just imagine how this will work out with our new Govt healthcare. I hope you are ready to work through the red tape when you need to give someone a life saving operation in South Dakota, but have to wait for Obama's approval in Washington.

Tayo-D:

I hope you are ready to work through the red tape when you need to give someone a life saving operation in South Dakota, but have to wait for Obama's approval in Washington.

yes mr tayo, obama will even have to approve before any illness happens to anyone then he will approve before one goes to a hospital, then he will approve before any one is treated and just incase some patient decides to die, obama has to approve otherwise that patient will die illegally and as an illegal corpse he or she will have no death certificate. perhaps a certificate of life death will be issued as compensation but no death certificate

so jindal will spend the money of louisiana taxpayer to clean up the state? why? louisiana has a lot of deficit and needs to cut the spending. it shouldnt matter what problem it is, the state govt needs to reduce spending so they dont indebt the future generation. dont you think so? jindaal has been good all this while, rejecting stimulus money(which was secretly accepted ) bc the state needs to reduce spending . . . he was against healthcare bc it involved too much spending( even though thousands of people were dying due to lack of health insurance) yet he wants to spend money to remove oil sarah spill (which is good o, but hypocritical )

where the heck is Sarah Palin, I remember her shouting 'DRILL BABY DRILL BABY DRILL, maybe she's to busy making $£250,000 on the speaking circuit to comment, silly woman, even her daughter is charging $15,000 to speak.

I wish the people of Delta Niger had someone to speak up for me, na wa o, no one gives a damn about them but everyone seems to feeling sorry for the American's,

pres-elect:

hey what happened to my expensive thread? ahaa, pls tayo d, jesoul, david, montelike etc etc etc return to base and let us laugh at sarah palin (whom i have been accused of loving )

i have not heard much from her these days. i hope she has a solution for all this spill . . . . anyway, good to know that some politicians just open their mouth and talk like their brain, if any, tells them to . . . . psycho talk

anyway, mr tayo d, it's not that i dont like oil, but i just believe that people should be concerned about the environmental impact of drilling on the local communities. if you've been to the niger-delta region of nigeria and see for yourself the effects of oil drilling on those communities, you would drill with restraint. but the oil lords dont care, and they use the disgruntled tea-party/republicans/conservative ignoramuses to push their selfish agenda which has helped land madam alaska some $12million while the poor protesters are crying about jobs . . i laugh in zulu

anyway, jesoul, as a xtian, i dont hate people. if God created people in his own image and likeness, why should i hate them. i may disagree with them, like i disagree with you, but i wont hate them. rather i'll love them, as i love you too.

montelik, i didnt read that your post. it was too long, i wanted to read it later but nairaland crashed and wiped it all away.

pls bring your contributions and arguments . . and fire . . . and brimstone . . . but no personal abuse . . . except for palin . . . the wise rich one

did u know she's going to Ghana to give a speech and wait for it, she's going to charge $150,000 for the speech, I wonder what she's going to chat about, aapparently she's going to be giving the speech at the University of Ghana, whoever is speaking up the bill which i suspect will be the Ghanian government needs to have their head examined, when will African governments learrn, we all know oil had just bn found in Ghana but the money should be used to build an orphnage for thousands of kids helping to clear or shall I say making peanuts from dump that had bn sent from UK and US, it's shocking, no one has bn prosecuted and its bn going on for ages. Africa is where they dump their used electronics.

sarah palin's daughter has not bn let out, charging $15,000 to talk rubbuish, she's a celebrity so is her mum, its all about money these days, I bet obama will make more than BILL Clinton when he lives office, I know he will, he seems to like hosting celebrities in the white house, he's a celeb politician.

thameamead:


did u know she's going to Ghana to give a speech and wait for it, she's going to charge $150,000 for the speech, I wonder what she's going to chat about, aapparently she's going to be giving the speech at the University of Ghana, whoever is speaking up the bill which i suspect will be the Ghanian government needs to have their head examined, when will African governments learrn, we all know oil had just bn found in Ghana but the money should be used to build an orphnage for thousands of kids helping to clear or shall I say making peanuts from dump that had bn sent from UK and US, it's shocking, no one has bn prosecuted and its bn going on for ages. Africa is where they dump their used electronics.

sarah palin's daughter has not bn let out, charging $15,000 to talk rubbuish, she's a celebrity so is her mum, its all about money these days, I bet obama will make more than BILL Clinton when he lives office, I know he will, he seems to like hosting celebrities in the white house, he's a celeb politician.

Thameamead, I'm not sure what your beef is. So she should go there for free? Political icons travel the world all the time giving speeches and they always charge for it.

Back in '06 Bill Clinton was charging as much as $300,000 per speech. http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/06/14/bill.clinton.speeches/
Al Gore in '07? $150,000. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-500586/Al-Gore-criticised-lining-pockets-3-300-minute-green-speech.html

Sista I could go on but charging for speeches is not unique to Sarah Palin. And if anyone wants to pay Bristol $15,000 to 'speak' then its not Bristol's fault but the people paying her. You think I would turn down $15,000 grand to go and speak on the effects on the long term effects on the environment of the oil spill? even though I don't knoiw jack about it?

JeSoul:

Thameamead, I'm not sure what your beef is. So she should go there for free? Political icons travel the world all the time giving speeches and they always charge for it.

Back in '06 Bill Clinton was charging as much as $300,000 per speech. http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/06/14/bill.clinton.speeches/
Al Gore in '07? $150,000. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-500586/Al-Gore-criticised-lining-pockets-3-300-minute-green-speech.html

I do not have a problem with political icons charging thousands on speaking tours but Sarah Palin is a political joke, she's so dull, why would Ghana pay such a huge amount to her when their are thousands of Ghanians living below the poverty, its ridiculous, if it was one of the up and coming oil explorations in Ghana paying for her speech, It certainly won't bother me. I find it strange people think she is relevant in the Tea Party Movement as well as the Republican PartY but she's a lot of hot air, she's prettywithout brains but good on her agents for helping her rake in almost $12M, she's not different from the likes of Paris Hliton and those reality people.

Sista I could go on but charging for speeches is not unique to Sarah Palin. And if anyone wants to pay Bristol $15,000 to 'speak' then its not Bristol's fault but the people paying her. You think I would turn down $15,000 grand to go and speak on the effects on the long term effects on the environment of the oil spill? even though I don't knoiw jack about it?

Good luck to Bristol, like mother like daughter, ,


Republicans deregulated the Minerals Service Management under Bush so they should lay off Obama and get BP to sort it out, shame no one is speaking for the people of Delta Niger.