oluwasegun007:
My greatest fear is that dangerous politics is happening in the church and it's worrisome.

DCMIX:
I need to hear from both sides before I conclude

focus7:


Point of corrections to the bolded, among all the names you mentioned only David Ibeyiomie served under Oyedepo, others served somewhere else and only made Oyedepo their mentor and spiritual father later in their lives.

HigherEd:
Putting this story out there is in no attempt to embarrass anyone or any church. As i always walk a very careful lane when reporting issues regarding the church. I have barely laid the facts as I remembered them.

The bible tells the story of how Lucifer rebelled in God's own perfect territory and was cast out with his entire team. So if rebellion and secession can happen in Heaven then it surely can happen in church.
If Paul and Barnabas(both anointed) could part ways over differences then it can happen between Oyedepo and Adjeman while we agree both of them are still anointed.
Therefore let no atheists nor unbeliever jump on this as reason to villify or misrepresent the church.

The church is Christ bride but it is not perfect, but it is still Christ bride nonetheless. Issue like this are common in Christianity, even from the early days. It then takes wisdom and maturity to handle these challenges as they come. This is not peculiar to Nigerian churches either. Unfortunately, we Christians might continue hearing stories like this till Jesus comes back. So let it not shake your faith in the mandate of the church. It is just one of those things.

I do not agree with Adjeman but I kind of understand him. I know in his heart he regards the church leadership and even respects Oyedepo. But somewhere there he feels he is being cheated and that would be where he might have erred. The prosperity character of a church like winners chapel flows from the top and trickles down. Whether the branch is in somalia or ogbomoso it would prosper. Same way the multiplication anointing in RCCG flows from top to bottom. I'm sure the Ghanian church was even astounded that they could contribute a whole $60,000 a month(back in 2004). Adjeman should have just learnt the principle and left. Men like Enenche, Adeyemi, Poju and Ibeyiomie learnt under Oyedepo and today have equally financially strong ministries irrespective of poor economy.

When the succession plan was allegedly closed to Abioye via church constitution people told him to leave and create his own church. Considering Abioye could cart away thousands of Winners members yet wisdom was present and Abioye refused to leave Oyedepo. And today, even the apparent successor sees Abioye as his Spiritual father and mentor(as I was told).

I also salute Oyedepo's wisdom in not going on a pulpit sponsored tirade against Adjeman. It is better recreational bloggers like me report these things than for it to be heard bitterly on the pulpit.

Lastly there is nothing necessarily wrong with remitting money to headquarters. The early gentile churches also remitted money back to jerusalem. Whatever process has been set up by the leadership of the church should be followed. If you can't, just leave!

Marotzke:
Did. TB also hijack the man's prophetic / healing annointing ?
The so called pastor doesn't have a name?
Which year did this happen?

jidemoh:

And say, what has he made of it today? No man bites the hands that feed him, he'll forever be hungry. From a church of 14,000 to 1,000. Is that an achievement? That to me is not a successful hijack.

daveP:
Exactly. you can't have true members again in this dispensation in African church system. You correct or try to direct, you'll get empty pews and another church will less stricter standards take them in with "the love of God and with grace to succeed"


And sinful lives will be on parade ere and there.


This is the number one fright and heart attack of current crop of Nigeria pastors. that cash..... that cash.... hmm.


Mammon reloaded.


It's sickening seriously.

Cries and wailings for prosperity since the 80s now are answered prayers. but what is the wealth being used to do. just the wealth RCCG has, 0.1% of it can be used to feed Burundi for a whole year, 3meals/day.

and yet the stupid rule of all to headquarters is wrong guy applied.


It's in the scriptures to send to hq. But dyu notice the way the high priest redistributed the gather wealth?
Lord!!!!

prince3009:
Very true!

I was fully aware of these events. Bishop Oyedepo sent some pastors back then including Pastor Abraham Aiyelabowo who was the resident pastor of Winners Chapel Uyo to take over from Bishop Adjeman. This was met with stiff resistance by Adjeman to the extent that there were fists cuffs and I even heard a gun was drawn (possibly by the Adjeman Faction).

Pastor Abraham Aiyelabowo was eventually made the resident Pastor of the new rebuilt Winners Chapel Ghana but the man still decamped and founded his own Triumphant Global Ministries Ghana which is booming today because the guy is full of humor and a crowd puller too. I remember his days as pastor in Winners Chapel Uyo only that the guy is a sexual predator who was shagging many women in the church back then both married and unmarried. The guy even bin wan shag my girlfriend Itoro who was always going to the house to help his wife with house chores. I was vexed about it and approached him only for him to attempt to sin-shame me in the congregation.

It is so painful that Bishop George Adjeman who I have known as a charismatic vibrant man on the pulpit would do something like that. The fact that Bishop Oyedepo gave him those terms shows that he (Oyedepo) has a large heart.

Anyways, after every...it's business as usual.

makinson2865:












stop saying what you don't know. All aforementioned names came out from winners under Bishop Oyedepo including pastor korede komaiya of masters place

NwaAmaikpe:

In my honest opinion. Since pastors claim the church belongs to it's members.

Nigerian churches should be registered as Public Limited Companies (PLC)
Listed on the stock exchange so it's members can benefit through stocks and dividends.

It is not fair that members sow, while only the overseers reap. Even Jesus won't approve of such an exploitative arrangement.

Considering the amount of profit these church investments rake in, it is only rational that they should be taxed too.

5thElement:
In the end it's all about the money and not the salvation of souls.

What a pity.


All these new generation "churches" are built on the foundation of the demon called Mammon.


If you are poor, it's a sin so just keep sowing that little money you've got till you are blessed.

NwaAmaikpe:



In my honest opinion. Since pastors claim the church belongs to it's members.

Nigerian churches should be registered as Public Limited Companies (PLC)
Listed on the stock exchange so it's members can benefit through stocks and dividends.

It is not fair that members sow, while only the overseers reap. Even Jesus won't approve of such an exploitative arrangement.

Considering the amount of profit these church investments rake in, it is only rational that they should be taxed too.

FortifiedCity:
Adjeman successfully hijacked a billion dollar corporation. That's ingenious

FortifiedCity:
Adjeman successfully hijacked a billion dollar corporation. That's ingenious

NwaAmaikpe:



In my honest opinion. Since pastors claim the church belongs to it's members.

Nigerian churches should be registered as Public Limited Companies (PLC)
Listed on the stock exchange so it's members can benefit through stocks and dividends.

It is not fair that members sow, while only the overseers reap. Even Jesus won't approve of such an exploitative arrangement.

Considering the amount of profit these church investments rake in, it is only rational that they should be taxed too.

OrangeDream:
God, this is so informative and revealing. And i'm a Winner since 1999. Can't believe i read an entire 4thread on a stretch on these captivating secrets in the house of God. Nawa o

focus7:


Bros i respect your write ups and I didn't meant to insult you by my assertion but we need to put history in proper perspective.

For the record:

Paul Eneche served Abel Damaina, was posted to Abuja and while there he started his own ministry having properly handed over and was released.

Sam Adeyemi on his own served under George Adegboye, posted to Lagos and later started his own, the matter generated a prolonged issue between him and Adegboye but were later reconciled but he submits to Bishop David Oyedepo.

Poju Oyemade started his ministry as an undergraduate student in Unilag and was ordained into ministry by Bishop David Oyedepo, though he was a staunch follower of Oyedepo like a son and a member of Winners Chapel before then

Please you can check out the stories.

DCMIX:
I need to hear from both sides before I conclude

muzeze77:
Same thing happened with winners maryland USA. It was headed my a Ghanaian pastor kofi and it got so big and I heard profitable suddenly we heard that the pastor was being asked to relocate to ibadan , he refused and started his own church with some of his members. My Christian brothers and sisters open your eyes . This are no longer churches but corporations. If you don't know the amount of money the church is receiving , it means you are not a member, you are suppose to since winners belong to all members

Chubhie:

It gets crazily messier when you factor in how sex flowed freely. You want a spiritual life? stay away from the social gatherings called churches today and start looking inwards.

You can read your bible and attend church but never give away your mind to any man to rewire for their selfish goals.

GavelSlam:
Actor no dey die.

Beehshorp:
Church na business... If you know you know

HigherEd:
Putting this story out there is in no attempt to embarrass anyone or any church. As i always walk a very careful lane when reporting issues regarding the church. I have barely laid the facts as I remembered them.

The bible tells the story of how Lucifer rebelled in God's own perfect territory and was cast out with his entire team. So if rebellion and secession can happen in Heaven then it surely can happen in church.
If Paul and Barnabas(both anointed) could part ways over differences then it can happen between Oyedepo and Adjeman while we agree both of them are still anointed.
Therefore let no atheists nor unbeliever jump on this as reason to villify or misrepresent the church.

The church is Christ bride but it is not perfect, but it is still Christ bride nonetheless. Issue like this are common in Christianity, even from the early days. It then takes wisdom and maturity to handle these challenges as they come. This is not peculiar to Nigerian churches either. Unfortunately, we Christians might continue hearing stories like this till Jesus comes back. So let it not shake your faith in the mandate of the church. It is just one of those things.

I do not agree with Adjeman but I kind of understand him. I know in his heart he regards the church leadership and even respects Oyedepo. But somewhere there he feels he is being cheated and that would be where he might have erred. The prosperity character of a church like winners chapel flows from the top and trickles down. Whether the branch is in somalia or ogbomoso it would prosper. Same way the multiplication anointing in RCCG flows from top to bottom. I'm sure the Ghanian church was even astounded that they could contribute a whole $60,000 a month(back in 2004). Adjeman should have just learnt the principle and left. Men like Enenche, Adeyemi, Poju and Ibeyiomie learnt under Oyedepo and today have equally financially strong ministries irrespective of poor economy.

When the succession plan was allegedly closed to Abioye via church constitution people told him to leave and create his own church. Considering Abioye could cart away thousands of Winners members yet wisdom was present and Abioye refused to leave Oyedepo. And today, even the apparent successor sees Abioye as his Spiritual father and mentor(as I was told).

I also salute Oyedepo's wisdom in not going on a pulpit sponsored tirade against Adjeman. It is better recreational bloggers like me report these things than for it to be heard bitterly on the pulpit.

Lastly there is nothing necessarily wrong with remitting money to headquarters. The early gentile churches also remitted money back to jerusalem. Whatever process has been set up by the leadership of the church should be followed. If you can't, just leave!