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Re: VIN Tampering: A Case Study /Imgdump by BeardedTraveler: 8:49am On Jul 12, 2018
Cosplay:


That's probably because this vehicle does not appear to ever have been exported to or registered in the US or Canada.

This appears to be a Japanese origin 2001 Honda Civic LXI 5MT, registered and used in Asia for a time.

It would be tricky, obtaining any reliable history records for this vehicle, primarily because of the part of the world it was used in. Not impossible, just may cost much more than you'd be willing to part with for a history report.

Oh okay, I see.

That explains it then. Thanks for ur time and effort. I appreciate
Re: VIN Tampering: A Case Study /Imgdump by engrken2(m): 7:29pm On Jul 15, 2018
Cosbly please can you verify this vin number for me JTHBA30G055077108
Re: VIN Tampering: A Case Study /Imgdump by Cosplay: 7:51pm On Jul 15, 2018
engrken2:
Cosbly please can you verify this vin number for me JTHBA30G055077108

PDF History Report is attached.

I'm not so sure about this one.



Re: VIN Tampering: A Case Study /Imgdump by engrken2(m): 9:41pm On Jul 15, 2018
Car already in Nigeria... Just want you to verify previous history
Re: VIN Tampering: A Case Study /Imgdump by engrken2(m): 10:08pm On Jul 15, 2018
Thanks so much but is there a way I can get pictures of the accidents
Re: VIN Tampering: A Case Study /Imgdump by otunbadare01(m): 9:29pm On Jul 23, 2018
Oga cosplay. Pls help me check my vin. Am sure it's accidented. Hoping the demage wasn't to much 1HGCM56807A181540.
Thanks
Re: VIN Tampering: A Case Study /Imgdump by Cosplay: 10:55pm On Jul 23, 2018
otunbadare01:
Oga cosplay. Pls help me check my vin. Am sure it's accidented. Hoping the demage wasn't to much 1HGCM56807A181540.
Thanks

Pdf AutoCheck report attached.

Re: VIN Tampering: A Case Study /Imgdump by Cosplay: 10:56pm On Jul 23, 2018
digitalheadline:

Thanks Cosplay for all that you do here.
Please can you help check this VIN so I don't make a mistake
2T1BR30E45C504835
Thank you.

Pdf AutoCheck report attached

Re: VIN Tampering: A Case Study /Imgdump by Cosplay: 10:57pm On Jul 23, 2018
engrken2:
Thanks so much but is there a way I can get pictures of the accidents

Have you gained access to any at all?

Re: VIN Tampering: A Case Study /Imgdump by digitalheadline(m): 7:54am On Jul 24, 2018
Cosplay:


Pdf AutoCheck report attached
Thank you Cosplay.
The report is very detailed and clear. God bless
Re: VIN Tampering: A Case Study /Imgdump by otunbadare01(m): 8:43am On Jul 24, 2018
Cosplay:


Pdf AutoCheck report attached.

Thanks boss. Pls can I also get pictures. Will really appreciate. ESE sir
Re: VIN Tampering: A Case Study /Imgdump by xule20(m): 3:55pm On Aug 06, 2018
Cosplay:


Have you gained access to any at all?

Baba nla pls help me check this VIN, paying for the car this Friday. Thanks

1nxbr32ex4z331297
Re: VIN Tampering: A Case Study /Imgdump by Cosplay: 10:01pm On Aug 06, 2018
xule20:

Baba nla pls help me check this VIN, paying for the car this Friday. Thanks

1nxbr32ex4z331297

PDF history report is below.

Re: VIN Tampering: A Case Study /Imgdump by Cosplay: 10:02pm On Aug 06, 2018

Re: VIN Tampering: A Case Study /Imgdump by xule20(m): 11:12pm On Aug 06, 2018
Cosplay:

Interesting, what's ur suggestion? I intend to use it strictly for uber
Here are the naija pics. Price is 1.8

Re: VIN Tampering: A Case Study /Imgdump by sheffyUTD(m): 4:33pm On Aug 07, 2018
xule20:

Interesting, what's ur suggestion? I intend to use it strictly for uber
Here are the naija pics. Price is 1.8

This is 2004 vehicle, does Uber accept this
Re: VIN Tampering: A Case Study /Imgdump by xule20(m): 7:29pm On Aug 07, 2018
sheffyUTD:

This is 2004 vehicle, does Uber accept this
I'm going for 2006 model.
Re: VIN Tampering: A Case Study /Imgdump by profb: 12:22am On Aug 13, 2018
Masters in the house.
Please help with this report with pictures please

5Y2SL62883Z482755

Thanks
Re: VIN Tampering: A Case Study /Imgdump by maballack(m): 2:03pm On Aug 16, 2018
Thanks Cosplay .
Please can you help check this VIN someone brought it to my office been nigerian used, told my oga to hold on so i try and see if i can get a history check
JTJJM7FXXB5025268
Thank you.
Re: VIN Tampering: A Case Study /Imgdump by Cosplay: 2:12pm On Aug 16, 2018
maballack:
Thanks Cosplay .
Please can you help check this VIN someone brought it to my office been nigerian used, told my oga to hold on so i try and see if i can get a history check
JTJJM7FXXB5025268
Thank you.

PDF AutoCheck report is attached.

2011 Lexus GX 460 exported to Nigeria in 2011 in essentially brand new condition.

Re: VIN Tampering: A Case Study /Imgdump by maballack(m): 2:34pm On Aug 16, 2018
Wow thanks for that , impressive report , now just need to know why the seller is telling me vehicle was purchased and numbered in 2017 september
its having a mileage of under 50k though
thanks
Re: VIN Tampering: A Case Study /Imgdump by kennyzboy: 8:26am On Aug 17, 2018
Cosplay:


Uncle Cosplay good morning sir, please you've got mail in your mail box, please assist.
Re: VIN Tampering: A Case Study /Imgdump by saintjoel(m): 12:02pm On Aug 20, 2018
Cosplay.....


These are two VINS...

SALSF25476A930973

SALSF25476A569801

Oya, tell me the reports and I will show you some pictures that you wouldn't believe...

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Re: VIN Tampering: A Case Study /Imgdump by Cosplay: 4:15pm On Aug 20, 2018
saintjoel:
Cosplay.....


These are two VINS...

SALSF25476A930973

SALSF25476A569801

Oya, tell me the reports and I will show you some pictures that you wouldn't believe...

smiley

At this point it would take an event as radical as a Nissan GT-R transforming into an apache helicopter to elicit disbelief from me.

SALSF25476A930973

AutoCheck report attached.

Summary (2018):

Salvage auction - January 2018

Reconstructed Salvage auction - May 2018


SALSF25476A569801

Appears to be invalid:

SALSF25476A :

Correct WMI + VDS

569801 :

Incorrect/Incomplete/Invalid VIS/Serial/Sequential Number.

Re: VIN Tampering: A Case Study /Imgdump by thebigkendo(m): 4:44pm On Aug 20, 2018
maballack:
Wow thanks for that , impressive report , now just need to know why the seller is telling me vehicle was purchased and numbered in 2017 september
its having a mileage of under 50k though
thanks

2nd or 3rd buyer maybe grin grin
Customs paper should tell you the truth

Under 50k mileage is still possible.. Nigerian don't drive "big engine" trucks alot...
Corolla & Camry as daily driver for normal running arounds then big trucks for village or party grin
Re: VIN Tampering: A Case Study /Imgdump by saintjoel(m): 7:10pm On Aug 20, 2018
Cosplay:


smiley

At this point it would take an event as radical as a Nissan GT-R transforming into an apache helicopter to elicit disbelief from me.

SALSF25476A930973

AutoCheck report attached.

Summary (2018):

Salvage auction - January 2018

Reconstructed Salvage auction - May 2018


SALSF25476A569801

Appears to be invalid:

SALSF25476A :

Correct WMI + VDS

569801 :

Incorrect/Incomplete/Invalid VIS/Serial/Sequential Number.


Well, you wanted proof that VIN tampering was been done in Nigeria and I've gotten you one..... Despite it compromises my security as a agent but only God knows Wetin go kill man.... This is a Range Rover with what we call " body editing " at the border....... A SUV with two VINS on it, the other VIN that came with it will be removed once the defects have been rectified and vehicle is about to be delivered..... Car dealers mostly do it now to beat your VIN checks......will get the altered VIN tomorrow cos the importer wants to loan me make I use am do big boy for ileya.... In my haste not to let him know that I was copying the other VIN under the windshield, I couldn't snap it properly...

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Re: VIN Tampering: A Case Study /Imgdump by Cosplay: 8:05pm On Aug 20, 2018
saintjoel:


Well, you wanted proof that VIN tampering was been done in Nigeria and I've gotten you one.....

That's not entirely accurate. Go to the first page of this thread. Check my other thread. I'm well aware it happens, as I described on both threads. Your input is quite welcome though.

saintjoel:
A SUV with two VINS on it, the other VIN that came with it will be removed once the defects have been rectified and vehicle is about to be delivered..... Car dealers mostly do it now to beat your VIN checks......

This is what they, and apparently you, don't seem to understand:

A VIN is not a random number.

You simply cannot just make up random alphanumeric characters and present as a VIN. Each character there has a specific significance, and is related to the other characters in the VIN

This VIN tampering you've described here would actually not "beat your VIN checks".

The original VIN of the Range Rover,

SALSF25476A930973

Specifically matches US/North American Range Rovers, and it's actually quite easy to validate any VIN for any vehicle from North America.



This counterfeit/forged VIN,

SALSF25476A569801

Is invalid, and would not show up on any range rover VIN database anywhere on the planet.



What do you think would happen when the client forwards this forged VIN to a platform for a history report for a vehicle originating in North America, and the VIN itself comes back as non-existent?

Red Flag

Simply put, for a North American - origin vehicle, the total absence of any history of any sort, is an even bigger red flag than a salvaged or damaged history.

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Re: VIN Tampering: A Case Study /Imgdump by Cosplay: 8:12pm On Aug 20, 2018
Erico2k2 how complicated would it be to access the VIN stored in the ECU for this Model Year??

Re: VIN Tampering: A Case Study /Imgdump by erico2k2(m): 8:23pm On Aug 20, 2018
Cosplay:
Erico2k2 how complicated would it be to access the VIN stored in the ECU for this Model Year??
Easy as ABC.
Re: VIN Tampering: A Case Study /Imgdump by Cosplay: 8:25pm On Aug 20, 2018
erico2k2:

Easy as ABC.

As far as I'm concerned, no discerning buyer would fall for this.

I would like to assume that anyone who's going to shell out the bucks for a Range would at least do some due diligence.

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Re: VIN Tampering: A Case Study /Imgdump by erico2k2(m): 9:45pm On Aug 20, 2018
Cosplay:


As far as I'm concerned, no discerning buyer would fall for this.

I would like to assume that anyone who's going to shell out the bucks for a Range would at least do some due diligence.
Ofcos, and youtube has been a blessing.
Re: VIN Tampering: A Case Study /Imgdump by saintjoel(m): 10:37pm On Aug 20, 2018
Cosplay:


As far as I'm concerned, no discerning buyer would fall for this.

I would like to assume that anyone who's going to shell out the bucks for a Range would at least do some due diligence.

And seriously, how many Nigerians have time for that??..But at the end, what do I know........ No wahala, don't have much time to argue....

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