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Relocating Back To Nigeria (To Lecture In University) by Devonian(m): 4:18pm On May 22, 2010
After over 10 years in the UK where I obtained my bachelor's, master's and doctorate degrees, in addition to teaching for a few years, I am planning to return to Nigeria and contribute my own quota to my fatherland. I intend taking up a teaching appointment in a University, preferably a Federal University.

Is there anybody on Nairaland who, as professionals or academics returned home from UK, USA, Canada or Australia, who can share their experiences with me here on:
(a) what to expect; and
(b) the pitfalls to avoid.
If you do not fall into this category please DO NOT respond to this posting. I need ONLY professionals or academics (not hustlers, no offence intended, please!) who have already experienced returning home after a long spell in European, North American and Australasia countries.
Re: Relocating Back To Nigeria (To Lecture In University) by netotse(m): 4:20pm On May 22, 2010
more info, what sector are you planning to go into, what town do you think you want to live in. . .
Re: Relocating Back To Nigeria (To Lecture In University) by rebranded(m): 6:05pm On May 22, 2010
One thing you should know about returning to Nigeria, you need a well paying job so as to at least buy the comfort you are used to over there in the UK or else you might not entirely enjoy it. You know best the reasons why you are returning, so comfort might not entirely be a big deal to you

I returned to Nigeria for 2years, after living 6yrs in the US and concluded i will rather live in the US than live in Nigeria and i have returned back to the US. You might hear that Nigeria is developing, but my opinion still has a lonnng way to go.

What i would say you should expect is, you cant change much in Nigeria because there are more people that have accepted the way things are done.
Pitfalls - negotiate for a good position before going to Nigeria.

Goodluck hope i was of some help

rebranded
Re: Relocating Back To Nigeria (To Lecture In University) by funkybaby(f): 6:46pm On May 22, 2010
I do not belong to the cartegory of people you have insisted should only respond to this thread. But hey, this is the Internet and this is nairaland. If Seun does not collect a penny from you to start this thread, why should you 'command' that only certain people should respond to the thread. After all, you are seeking for advice/tips and you never know whose tip might come in handy.

Anyways, regarding the tips and pitfalls you need to avoid, it depends largely on the position you are offerred at the uni (associate prof get mouth pass senior lecturer 1),  the university itself ( for example, OAU and uni of maiduguri are both federal schools but you cannot expect the same 'treatment' from both schools), the cartegory of students you will be teaching ( diploma, undergrad,postgrad or research students) and your long term goals in Nigeria. For example, if your goal is to become a VC of a uni someday,  it might take you 20 years at Ife and maybe 5 years at maiduguri.

Will you be staying at the staff quaters?

Be prepared to do plenty eye service sha especially if you are interested in juicy posts like Dean, HEad of faculty, DVC, etc.
Re: Relocating Back To Nigeria (To Lecture In University) by Meddler(f): 7:16pm On May 22, 2010
rebranded:

One thing you should know about returning to Nigeria, you need a well paying job so as to at least buy the comfort you are used to over there in the UK or else you might not entirely enjoy it. You know best the reasons why you are returning, so comfort might not entirely be a big deal to you

I returned to Nigeria for 2years, after living 6yrs in the US and concluded i will rather live in the US than live in Nigeria and i have returned back to the US. You might hear that Nigeria is developing, but my opinion still has a lonnng way to go.

What i would say you should expect is, you cant change much in Nigeria because there are more people that have accepted the way things are done.
Pitfalls - negotiate for a good position before going to Nigeria.

Goodluck hope i was of some help

rebranded

I do aplologize. Don't mean to hijack your thread. Rebranded what part of naija were you leaving in? I'm returning home too. what was your experience like?
Re: Relocating Back To Nigeria (To Lecture In University) by Kobojunkie: 7:31pm On May 22, 2010
@Poster, have you considered short contracts down there first? I mean go down there for 3 to 6 month periods at first. After the first or a couple more tries, you can decide if moving back fulltime to Nigeria is best for you.
Re: Relocating Back To Nigeria (To Lecture In University) by Nobody: 7:33pm On May 22, 2010
So who are the hustlers that you dont want their contribution?.the least person here could be of help to you if you dont know anyways,thanks for such compliment and i mean know disrespect for your person/thread
Re: Relocating Back To Nigeria (To Lecture In University) by PapaBrowne(m): 7:55pm On May 22, 2010
Devonian:

After over 10 years in the UK where I obtained my bachelor's, master's and doctorate degrees, in addition to teaching for a few years, I am planning to return to Nigeria and contribute my own quota to my fatherland. I intend taking up a teaching appointment in a University, preferably a Federal University.

Is there anybody on Nairaland who, as professionals or academics returned home from UK, USA, Canada or Australia, who can share their experiences with me here on:
(a) what to expect; and
(b) the pitfalls to avoid.
If you do not fall into this category please DO NOT respond to this posting. I need ONLY professionals or academics (not hustlers, no offence intended, please!)who have already experienced returning home after a long spell in European, North American and Australasia countries.

A tad bit arrogant and somewhat close minded I might say(no offence intended too)! One answer from a hustler or even a deportee sef can make all the difference in your life mister!!

So the first pitfall I'd say you avoid is 1arrogance! Nigerians hate it with a passion especially when it comes with a Nigerian on a foreign accent.
So even if you very good at what you do, try avoid shoving it in the faces of your fellow workmates(Lecturers in your case)

One good way to avoid pitfalls is to visit first for a month or two before making a final decision. You might use such an opportunity to check out various universities and intimate them on your desire to join their team.
Thirdly and very importantly, always have an exit strategy. That means if things get messy and don't go as planned, you can be sure to have something to fall back on.

On expectations, I'd say anticipate a tough environment that is funnily, laden with immense opportunities.
I should also add that you engage in some kind of business as a Lecturer's salary is not likely to sustain the comfort you've been used to while overseas.

For me, when I returned 2 Nigeria I had much of my priorities misplaced, so things almost got messy until I switched plans and ventured into business. Can't say I have regrets!
Re: Relocating Back To Nigeria (To Lecture In University) by Shock(m): 8:20pm On May 22, 2010
So i'm not an academician or a professional of sort, and i'm now responding to this thread, so wachu gon do?
Re: Relocating Back To Nigeria (To Lecture In University) by Nobody: 9:02pm On May 22, 2010
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Re: Relocating Back To Nigeria (To Lecture In University) by rebranded(m): 9:07pm On May 22, 2010
Meddler:

I do aplologize. Don't mean to hijack your thread. Rebranded what part of naija were you leaving in? I'm returning home too. what was your experience like?

Meddler i stayed in Lagos, its actually not bad if you live and work on the Island, Abuja also is a good option if you are returning home. My experience wasnt bad but when you look at the heat, dust, security and healthcare to name a few I would rather be here and go visiting.
Re: Relocating Back To Nigeria (To Lecture In University) by Meddler(f): 9:17pm On May 22, 2010
Thanks for replying rebranded. i'll be in Abuja, that's where my parents reside. Well i'm keeping an open mind and hope for the best. I'm just hoping it's not as bad as everyone makes it out to be. It will definitely be an interesting journey. I've been in the US for almost 10 yrs so this is definitely gng to be one heck of an adjustment cheesy
Re: Relocating Back To Nigeria (To Lecture In University) by Nobody: 9:27pm On May 22, 2010
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Re: Relocating Back To Nigeria (To Lecture In University) by REALTRUTH1: 9:30pm On May 22, 2010
@Poster,,,Let me give you a straight talk,,,
Some people ve been very economical in describe ur person,,,but I would say to here that you re arrogant!!!
Now get this scenerio as an advice,,,its a true life story,,its not a make up,,,am going to paraphrase it,,,
I know of someone who after the democratic intervention in Nigeria fro 1999 to 2003,,,there were lots of stories and testimonies that abound that Nigeria was experiencing a new dawn and that there were reforms redirecting the future of Nigeria to hope with OBJ at the helms of affair,,,,
Bottomline,,,in 2005 and 2006,,,a professional who had worked in top flight investment bank here in the US,,decided to return back to Nigeria,,,before he came,,,being a smart,,,he did his feasibility studies,,he decided to invest in Agriculture and the stock market,,,he sold everything he had in the US,,,brought in over $3Million,,,invested over $2Million in both the capital market and his agric business,,,he was very unfortunating,,,he came into the market when the market was about nose diving,,,,as I speak to you now,,,his money tied in the market,,waiting for the price to get to atleast where he bought those stocks,,,
As regards the agric business,,,,the people he employed messed up the business and he was severely defrauded of his invested in the agriculture biz,,,,As result of all that transpired,,,he sold out the rest of all he had left in for the agric business including the land and he and his family had to return back to the US to start afresh,,
   In your own case,,,I will advice you come down and pay a visit first,,interact  and investigate if you could fit in to the Nigerian system.Moreso,,I doubt if Nigerians especially in the Nigerian University re intimidated by foreign degrees,,,if you ve a foreign degree and you think U want to lecture,,,I bet you,,U would be frustrated out,,,and I can assure you that you can not find the necessary facilities that would enhance ur pursuits,,,,
If you re coming to do business that would ve been a lot more better,,,but thinking of Foreign degree stuff,,,who cares about??,,,,Didn't you hear of the Medical Doctor that was shot dead in benin about 6weeks ago??
Guy just think very well b4 taking that decision,,,If you re tired of UK,,,why don't you try US?? if you re frofessional,,,moreso what is ur discipline
Re: Relocating Back To Nigeria (To Lecture In University) by rebranded(m): 9:36pm On May 22, 2010
No problem meddler, im sure you will have a nice time Abj is more sane than most cities in Nigeria 10yrs is a long time you might have to learn to speak your language again  grin
Re: Relocating Back To Nigeria (To Lecture In University) by rebranded(m): 9:40pm On May 22, 2010
ftmom:

Oh, not to sound cynical but all that talk about contributing your quota? majority have no interest in your contribution, money is king and I mean immediate cash not "building for the future"

Having said that if you are not too concerned about being appreciated, go for it! and pray your frustrations will be little


Ftmom i agree with you on that, like i stated earlier going with the mindset to change anything is a waste of your time,

@OP i know someone that went back planning on moving his family after awhile, he spent 2months and moved back here turned down all the offers he had there. So please go first and be certain you want to make that move. GL
Re: Relocating Back To Nigeria (To Lecture In University) by udezue(m): 10:12pm On May 22, 2010
Lol @ the arrogance. Why don't u 1st visit and investigate things for yourself b4 u make that decision? You haven't gotten a job offer and u are ready pack and move or do u think they will readily dash u a job when thousands or more in Nigeria with same / similar degree are without work? haha a lil bit of common sense not arrogance will help u out in this situation.
Re: Relocating Back To Nigeria (To Lecture In University) by Devonian(m): 10:36pm On May 22, 2010
First of all shall I say that I posted this thread not with the intentions of being egoistic! Whilst acknowledging the fact that anyone who previously lived abroad and returned home (or people who haven’t travelled abroad, but knows the reality on ground) may have one or two things to say which would be quintessentially useful for my situation, I’m also aware that too many people derail threads on NL. For example, netotse, the first person to respond asked “what sector are you planning to go into” when this was already apparent in my post. This partly explains why I’m keen to hear from professionals and academics. Besides, I was hoping to hear from anyone in the same profession that left the West for Nigeria to give me feedback on their experiences back home in Nigerian universities. Consensus seems to be give it a test ride first (PapaBrowne "visit first for a month or two before making a final decision"; Kobojunkie "go down there for 3 to 6 month periods at first"; ftmom “set up a trial period during which you can decide what you want to do long term.”) I would certainly do this. Some also suggested business. I definitely wouldn’t go into business in Naija.
Re: Relocating Back To Nigeria (To Lecture In University) by Devonian(m): 10:52pm On May 22, 2010
udezue:

Lol @ the arrogance. Why don't u 1st visit and investigate things for yourself b4 u make that decision? You haven't gotten a job offer and u are ready pack and move or do u  think they will readily dash u a  job when thousands or  more in Nigeria with same / similar degree are without work? haha a lil bit of common sense not arrogance will help u out in this situation.

You're surely one of the unwanted spammers on this thread. Is there anything in this statement: “After over 10 years in the UK, I am planning to return to Nigeria and contribute my own quota to my fatherland” which suggests, I was chained down in the UK and hence never visited Naija during the period in question? I certainly do not need you to tell me I needed to secure jobs before returning. Neither do I need you to tell me there are loads of jobless Nigerians seeking seimilar lectureships. Leave that to the faculty search committee who would consider individual candidate's educational qualifications, experience, publications in peer-review academic journals, etc. You’re surely one of the scumbags and hustlers I was referring to when I posted this message.
Re: Relocating Back To Nigeria (To Lecture In University) by texazzpete(m): 11:00pm On May 22, 2010
I don't think the Poster is being arrogant. I think he needs good advice, and this is expected to come from intelligent, mature and professional individuals. No harm in specifying his target audience, is there?
Re: Relocating Back To Nigeria (To Lecture In University) by netotse(m): 11:14pm On May 22, 2010
Devonian:

First of all shall I say that I posted this thread not with the intentions of being egoistic! Whilst acknowledging the fact that anyone who previously lived abroad and returned home (or people who haven’t travelled abroad, but knows the reality on ground) may have one or two things to say which would be quintessentially useful for my situation, I’m also aware that too many people derail threads on NL. For example, netotse, the first person to respond asked “what sector are you planning to go into” when this was already apparent in my post. This partly explains why I’m keen to hear from professionals and academics. Besides, I was hoping to hear from anyone in the same profession that left the West for Nigeria to give me feedback on their experiences back home in Nigerian universities. Consensus seems to be give it a test ride first (PapaBrowne "visit first for a month or two before making a final decision"; Kobojunkie "go down there for 3 to 6 month periods at first"; ftmom “set up a trial period during which you can decide what you want to do long term.”) I would certainly do this. Some also suggested business. I definitely wouldn’t go into business in Naija.
guess what ppl? today is let-hotshot-doctorate-wielding-fella-stylishly-insult-me-and-get-away-with-it-day cheesy

it was evident in your first post? you mentioned teaching in a university, i kinda meant what subject area(to think i was trying to avoid posting off-tangent), i should've been clearer mea culpa. . .if you're an electrical engineer with a PhD university of lagos will employ you easily, that's the sorta thing that was going through my mind, was also planning to help search for lecturers salaries but i guess i have better things to do(what with me being NLs chief thread-derailer and all cheesy)
Re: Relocating Back To Nigeria (To Lecture In University) by Meddler(f): 11:16pm On May 22, 2010
rebranded:

No problem meddler, im sure you will have a nice time Abj is more sane than most cities in Nigeria 10yrs is a long time you might have to learn to speak your language again  grin

Lol no probs with that. I can still speak and understand Igbo pretty well  grin
Re: Relocating Back To Nigeria (To Lecture In University) by SEFAGO(m): 11:16pm On May 22, 2010
netotse:

guess what ppl? today is let-hotshot-doctorate-wielding-fella-stylishly-insult-me-and-get-away-with-it-day cheesy

it was evident in your first post? you mentioned teaching in a university, i kinda meant what subject, i should've been clearer mea culpa. . .if you're an electrical engineer with a PhD university of lagos will employ you easily, that's the sorta thing that was going through my mind, was also planning to help search for lecturers salaries but i guess i have better things to do(what with being NLs chief thread-derailer and all cheesy)



^ lolz not my business but not true though- you asked "what sector and what city" he wants to stay not what field do u wanna teach.

Regardless the guy is asking a honest question lol  cheesy
Re: Relocating Back To Nigeria (To Lecture In University) by netotse(m): 11:23pm On May 22, 2010
SEFAGO:

^ lolz not my business but not true though- you asked "what sector and what city" he wants to stay not what field do u wanna teach.

Regardless the guy is asking a honest question lol  cheesy

if he's an engineer that's the question to ask, it's the same thing as asking what's your specialisation, or how many lecturers do you think simply teach?. . .of which i admitted i was at fault now. . .the idea of him rushing to brand me S.I. unit of thread derailment is what i dont like. . .
Re: Relocating Back To Nigeria (To Lecture In University) by udezue(m): 11:50pm On May 22, 2010
The guy is just a complete idiot. Nwa aturu. If you have been visiting Nigeria so often like you claim then by now you should have gotten a good idea of what to expect when u go back. Just admit you were bored and felt like creating a thread on NL to entertain ur lonely self. Sorry I had no idea you needed some entertainment not necessarily anyones advice. If by now you still haven't gotten a clue on how life might be for u in Nigeria since you've been travelling back then its clear you are nothing but a degree-holding dunce. You have proven that having a degree is not a clear sign of common intelligence. Meka so!!!

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Re: Relocating Back To Nigeria (To Lecture In University) by blunt1990: 11:59pm On May 22, 2010
@meddler
I really don't know your preps but I will advise you prep yourself mentally before you return to Nigeria. I retuned to Nigeria in February after opening a coy in UK and in Nigeria and have been in Abuja ever since, I find it extremely difficult living in Nigeria having lived in UK for over 6years. So many things about Nigeria is wrong and I will advise you put up a structure on ground before you retun, and please do not fail to have a contingency plan in case if things do not go on well in Nigeria.
I will like to hear your experience when you are back. best of luck
Re: Relocating Back To Nigeria (To Lecture In University) by Meddler(f): 12:12am On May 23, 2010
blunt1990:

@meddler
I really don't know your preps but I will advise you prep yourself mentally before you return to Nigeria. I retuned to Nigeria in February after opening a coy in UK and in Nigeria and have been in Abuja ever since, I find it extremely difficult living in Nigeria having lived in UK for over 6years. So many things about Nigeria is wrong and I will advise you put up a structure on ground before you retun, and please do not fail to have a contingency plan in case if things do not go on well in Nigeria.
I will like to hear your experience when you are back. best of luck

I hear ya. I'm gng to rely on my savings till by the grace of God something pans out and also be registering for NYSC . So one year is gng to be dedicated to NYSC. But I am preparing myself mentally. Is it really that bad?? I mean I understand the lack of basic stuff i take for granted here but is it really that bad. I guess a part of me is just hoping that everyone's stance on Nigeria is being blown out of proportion. But oh well I'll be having first hand experience pretty soon.
Re: Relocating Back To Nigeria (To Lecture In University) by violent(m): 12:30am On May 23, 2010
Meddler:

I hear ya. I'm gng to rely on my savings till by the grace of God something pans out and also be registering for NYSC . So one year is gng to be dedicated to NYSC. But I am preparing myself mentally. Is it really that bad?? I mean I understand the lack of basic stuff i take for granted here but is it really that bad. I guess a part of me is just hoping that everyone's stance on Nigeria is being blown out of proportion. But oh well I'll be having first hand experience pretty soon.

It depends on your threshold for comfort, like a poster rightly said, cash is king is naija!

If you've got enough $$$, you really can afford to pay for your ish all the way through.

Try not to get kidnapped while at it tho!
Re: Relocating Back To Nigeria (To Lecture In University) by cold(m): 10:42am On May 23, 2010
Just arrived the UK after 2 months in the motherland,kinda 'testing the waters' & in all honesty not much has changed.Nearly everybody wants to rip u off,everybody nids a lil greasing to get things done.It's so frustrating but my mind is made up,will have to go back PERMANENTLY at some point.For anyone plannin on rturnin to 9ja for good or for a long spell prepare ur mind,psych etc for serious adjustments cuz nothin seems to be workin back home.
Re: Relocating Back To Nigeria (To Lecture In University) by ikeyman00(m): 1:02pm On May 23, 2010
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well em i think it reasonable to say that there are lots of foreigners who has been living in the same naija

num2; yes it isn't gona be all rosy,there will always be a challenge

num3; in as much as there are lots of people returning back i think its always far to say there are lots of people doing otherwise

if man can go to the moon then whats the deal?
Re: Relocating Back To Nigeria (To Lecture In University) by Meddler(f): 2:47pm On May 23, 2010
So in essence go home with some seriously lowered expectation and just do things the opposite way. Gotcha wink
I think I can handle this
Re: Relocating Back To Nigeria (To Lecture In University) by Kobojunkie: 12:01am On May 24, 2010
@Poster, I really suggest you have some side business to help you handle the cost of living down in Nigeria.

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