hadjipapiey:
Islam is a guided pathway to kindness,
Being kind however is a social fulcrum to peaceful beautiful life.
Hence, even if am an atheist, I would've extended my kindness fellowship to all and sundry.


I'm a Muslim, a proud one at it


Mind you, kindness I not only about money

hadjipapiey:
Islam is a guided pathway to kindness,
Being kind however is a social fulcrum to peaceful beautiful life.
Hence, even if am an atheist, I would've extended my kindness fellowship to all and sundry.


I'm a Muslim, a proud one at it


Mind you, kindness I not only about money

sholay2011:
I can't be kind without Christ.

sholay2011:
I can't be kind without Christ.

Highbrow:
While some people are kind because of the religion they have, others have no religion but are nonetheless kind.

The kindest people might not even be religious. Bill Gates is a very kind man though he isn't because of a religion.

Without your religion, wouldn't you be kind and good?

Lalasticla
Dominique

DeSepiero:


What makes you think that Bill Gates is very kind?

CAPSLOCKED:


MANY ANIMALS SHOW KINDNESS BECAUSE IT'S A VIRTUE, AND NOT BECAUSE THEY KNOW JESUS.

I FEAR FOR THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO BEAR YOUR RELIGIOUS NONSENSE EVERYDAY.

hadjipapiey:
Islam is a guided pathway to kindness,
Being kind however is a social fulcrum to peaceful beautiful life.
Hence, even if am an atheist, I would've extended my kindness fellowship to all and sundry.


I'm a Muslim, a proud one at it


Mind you, kindness I not only about money

Mobilia:
Great question....
See the issue isn't as much about "if" but rather the "motives" behind why one is doing something.
There's a problem on each side of the coin.
Let me deal strictly from the Christianity point of view.Those who are kind but don't profess Christ....have an issue because they don't acknowledge Christ as Lord and Savior. Then those who claim Christ... can be doing "kind deeds" but be unconverted.
Plenty of people are "kind" and claim some sort of religion...but no one but God can see that inner heart and whether or not the deed was done out of a sincere heart or a selfish heart....
People could be doing "good deeds" and still have a corrupt heart...
This is the sober warning given to professors of Christ in Matthew 7.
It's almost better to just outright "not" do something than to do something begrudgingly.... basically expecting something in return or to "show out" in order to get men's applause.
Self-introspection...and then prayer to God to deal honestly with folks is what's needed.

tintingz:
Like a quote said,

With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion.
Steven Weinberg

So yes, we see some Muslims doing good or kind to people we also see some non-muslims doing good and kind to people, but the problem here is when a Muslim do bad things e.g terrorists, fanatics etc he/she thinks he's doing it for Allah making him a good person.

hadjipapiey:



That's a wide pool of discussion you just digressed..
The long and short of it and the reality is, ALLAAH says "He who deliberately kills a soul (Human), is as if He has killed a NATION"

So, any Muslim doing evil under the tutelage of Islam, is on his own not for ALLAAH.

hadjipapiey:



That's a wide pool of discussion you just digressed..
The long and short of it and the reality is, ALLAAH says "He who deliberately kills a soul (Human), is as if He has killed a NATION"

So, any Muslim doing evil under the tutelage of Islam, is on his own not for ALLAAH.

tintingz:
There are verses from the same Quran terrorists used in justifying thier killigs, the point here is these terrorists see themselves as good people because they are following Allah's words, they even see many Muslims not following or supporting thier cause as non-muslims or half-baked Muslims.

Our morality, goodness, kindness shouldn't rely on some religious dogmas, imagine because someone is homosexual, apostate he/she is condemned.

superhumanist:



But the same book praises the killing of infidels......

And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter... and fight them until fitnah is no more, and religion is for Allah.

— Quran 2:191

hadjipapiey:




Dissecting it with a divergent view as your siggy implies, no one has the right to condemn another. Note: You can only condemn their actions

The Qur'an is an absolute encyclopedia of life which caught across all spheres. He who misinterpretes it is at own peril and He is among the misguided.

He whom ALLAH has guided, no one can misguide ;and He that has strayed away from ALLAH'S guidance, no one can guide except HIM alone.

Hence, this is simple and straight, ask ALLAH sincerely for Guidance, and he will guide who sought it.

Cheers

tintingz:
Are you saying homosexuals, apostate are not condemned in Islam?

Allah has said it "he guide and misguide whomever he will", Allah already knows who he will guide and misguide.

The only way to know what the Quran is saying is by people interpretations, exegisis. Allah does not talk to anybody, pray from morning to night Allah doesn't explain anything he said in the Quran, it's the people giving different exegisis about the Quran.

hadjipapiey:
Homosexuality is totally condemned by ALLAH and Islam as a whole never gave a smile at the action.
Note: The action of, and not the person
You can however do your best in admonishing who does it. Who knows, they may become the favourite of ALLAAH later

To the interpretations of the Qur'an, mind you, the Qur'an doesn't just come as revelation to the prophet Muhammad, cases, actions and reactions of events and happenings from the time of ADAM to the last of all prophet Muhammad were rehearsed to the Prophet.

You'll agree with me that few verses of the Qur'an are somewhat the same as it is in the Bible.

Hence, the prophet has come to give thorough interpretation of the Qur'an through his actions and his saying (Hadith).

Al-Quràn could be ambiguous for an ignorant if he/she didn't ask for the correct meaning. (hadith, commentaries, and views of the scholars of Al-Qur'an.

May ALLAH grant us better Understanding

tintingz:
Dude I was Muslim so don't bother telling me what I know.

There are various tafsir(exegisis) of the Quran, there are strong, weak hadiths, there are hadiths accepted by some sects and not accepted by some sects e.g Sunni and Shia, Suffi, Salafi, Wahabi etc These sects have different interpretations of the Quran.

Allah is not talking to anybody to interpret the Quran, if you're a Sunni muslim your ideology will be different to that of Shia Muslim.

Now back to homosexuality, homosexuals are both condemned both by thier actions and person if not Allah won't have wipe out people in Sodom and Gomorrah, homosexuals are to be killed according to the Sharia. If your God is all powerful and all knowing he should have wipe out homosexual act and not the people.

tintingz:
Even when some christians do bad things they still think they are good because thier God approve it e.g the child-witch case.

One doesn't need a God to be moral or good, you just have to show empathy to your fellow human even to nature.