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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Laurene: 2:45am On Dec 11, 2019
koboko69:


Typical of a Trump supporter cheesy
Confused lots!!!!


I see the wanna be Republican who as usual chickens like Trump whenever facts are laid bare hiding and talking from the corner.
an error but you get the msg.
You demo rats got no case. Come back when you have one.
Bunch of jealous lots.
This election will make his as the best for the Republicans just watch and see.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by doitforyou(f): 4:18am On Dec 11, 2019
koboko69:


Mtcheew. Incoherent piece of shit!

You really sound like a Trump supporter cheesy

No wonder he loves the poorly educated.

Obviously u dont even know what u talking about.. cheesy
You should know when someone types “worst president in US history in Obama” a President that took America out of a recession? You know you’re not dealing with a rational person. Her post has right wing website written all over it. It’s copy and paste from right wing websites, it’s only them that argue in superlatives.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 7:55am On Dec 11, 2019
koboko69:


Its ok to support who ever u want to...
But do that with some sense of decency, and wisdom.
You abuse Nigerian politicians for corruption and people like u will be quick to compare Nigeria with US in every little matters. The president solicited Ukraine to do a dirty job for him to help is re-election bid just like he asked Russia to interfere in 2016 which every intelligence agency concluded that they indeed interfered in the elections. He got away with it before, now he thinks he is untouchable and is trying to make it look normal to ask foriegn nations to investigate political rivals. He had no issues with "corruption" in Ukraine in 2017 and 2018 but suddenly has concerns in 2019 when Joe Biden announced is interest in 2020 elections. Six of his associates have been convicted of various crimes, he recently agreed to pay 2million dollars stolen from charity meant for veterans, his lawyer is actively still doing what he is being impeached for, currently in Ukraine meeting with corrupt officials who have links to KGB. His Chief of Staff told Americans to get over it cos it get done all the time. He cared so.much about corruption that he never mentions it, he cares so much about corruption and wouldn't meet the newly elected president of Ukraine but he has met Putin of Russia 16 times since he got elected with Rusia's help and today who did he meet in the Oval office?
Republicans and people like u can keep deflecting these facts, and bringing up dumb excuses and defenses. He had every opportunity to clear himself if he wasn't guilty, but he chickened away, and told every other person who could clear him to also defile lawful subpoenas, The dumbness is asking Adam or Hunter to come testify shows how dumb Republicans and their supporters are, Trump has made that party look like a party of clowns. This is an impeachment inquiry about Trump asking a foriegn nation to interfere in our elections, what that F* as Hunter testifying got to do with that. If u had a problem with Hunter, why not use the channels laid out for investigating that, rather than trying to spin the inquiry like its about Joe or Hunter Biden, or ask a foriegn country to help you through your personal lawyer. U can choose to remain shameless, that's on you!
Lol at Bolded, Seemed like you really bought into Adam shifty Shiff's Parody grin
Answer to that is that the Ukrainian President said he never felt pressured. Were you living under a rock or something?. You don't have to waste your time replying with an article, This impeachment is a road to nowhere. Trump wins 2020.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 7:59am On Dec 11, 2019
President Trump now leading Democrat Candidates in Key Battle ground States.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 9:18am On Dec 11, 2019
Andriy Yermak, a top aide to Ukrainian President Zelensky, says they "never had that feeling” that US aid & investigations were connected.

"We did not have the feeling that this aid was connected to any one specific issue."

https://time.com/5746417/ukraine-andriy-yermak-impeachment-interview/

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 10:19am On Dec 11, 2019
To all those trying to gaslight and
claim the IG report found no
wrongdoing by the FBI,

The IG report revealed that The FBI:

Relied on fake Clinton-funded Steele dossier to target the Trump campaign.

Knew dossier was complete bunk by January 2017 and yet they kept suggesting otherwise to continue using it to seek spy warrants

Deceived and lied to the FISA court

Abused the FISA process

used a confidential human source to interact with and record conversations with Trump affiliates (Spying)

Doctored documents

Hid exculpatory evidence

Suppressed or ignored information negating the reliability of their principal source

Had no good explanation for these misconducts

Was rife with widespread wrongdoing


Anyone who would still defend these is either deceiving himself or just plain stupid

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 10:30am On Dec 11, 2019
feedthenation:
Fox cancels interview with James Comey, after the IG report clears him of everything various Fox hosts have accused him of.

“I offered to go on Fox & Friends which I gather is a very important program for supporters of the President. And they agreed last night to book me at 8:00 tomorrow. I figured I can’t change the minds of Fox viewers about President Trump but I can change their minds, I hope, about the FBI by giving them actual facts. Then after the report came out they canceled my appearance. They must’ve read the report.” – Former FBI director James Comey.

James Comey is a liar,

"James Comey was not booked and was never confirmed to appear on Fox & Friends," - FOX News spokesperson

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 10:36am On Dec 11, 2019
Laurene:
keep watching... But I hope Pelosi steps downs or resigns if she fails to oust trump outta office. I hope you don't disappear when trump succeeds against all odds.
No American president has been removed from office instead it will go on and on in the judiciary ( like Andrew Johnson). Whoever controls the senate controls the impeachment. Trump maybe impeached but will never be removed from office.
I am surprised at the level of intelligence of Trump supporters. No wonder Trump administration is defunding education. It takes people without critical thinking ability to worship a human being as a diety.

Pelosi steps down for carrying out constitutional duties? To impeach a president is within the constitutional duties of the house and neither Pelosi or any of the Democrat house members is required to resign, whether it succeeds or not.

It is not the duty of the house to remove a president, that's the responsibility of the senate. The house duties stops at impeachment. Impeachment is a sort of indictment, it is the senate that would indict. This would not be the first time the house would impeach but the senate refuses to remove.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 10:59am On Dec 11, 2019
obixcel:
President Trump now leading Democrat Candidates in Key Battle ground States.


This will be very good, Trump winning his 2nd term and for the Democrats winning both houses in congress.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 11:21am On Dec 11, 2019
obixcel:
Democrats Articles of Impeachment released. And that is the most hilarious accusation I have ever read...accusing President Trump of soliciting Ukraine to interfere in 2020 Election? O Boy! grin grin You can't make this up?! Well, the conclusion is that it will be a ROAD THAT LEADS TO NOWHERE. #SenateTrials


What most people fail to understand is that an impeachment is not reversing an election mandate, rather it is holding an elected official accountable whilst in office. In layman's language, it is like someone being accepted to university, that fellow got caught cheating in an examination, kicking the person out of university is not reversing the university initial acceptance but punishing the person for wrong doing. This is so simple, yet so difficult for most people to understand.

Nobody likes impeachment process, because it shows that there is a flaw in the electoral process, something Nancy Pelosi has been trying to avoid. But Trump always thinks he is above the law and constitution of the land.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 12:10pm On Dec 11, 2019
obixcel:
President Trump now leading Democrat Candidates in Key Battle ground States.

https://www.axios.com/trump-impeachment-poll-michigan-pennsylvania-wisconsin-6776a580-9a0f-4362-a8a7-e6180f18ed14.html

The poll is from Firehouse Strategies a Republican polling firm.

Quarterly polling by the Republican firm Firehouse Strategies, with Optimus, had President Trump struggling in the mega-battlegrounds of Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin — but in the newest edition, he beats every Democrat.

The big picture: Trump won by an average of six percentage points in hypothetical match-ups against all current Democratic candidates, including Joe Biden, who was performing well in head-to-head contests against Trump in polling conducted earlier in the year.

A big congratulation to all Republicans and Trump supporters, it's already over. Let's Just go ahead and plan his inauguration ceremony for 2nd term.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 12:30pm On Dec 11, 2019
feedthenation:



What most people fail to understand is that an impeachment is not reversing an election mandate, rather it is holding an elected official accountable whilst in office. In layman's language, it is like someone being accepted to university, that fellow got caught cheating in an examination, kicking the person out of university is not reversing the university initial acceptance but punishing the person for wrong doing. This is so simple, yet so difficult for most people to understand.

Nobody likes impeachment process, because it shows that there is a flaw in the electoral process, something Nancy Pelosi has been trying to avoid. But Trump always thinks he is above the law and constitution of the land.
@Bolded Actually On the Contrary, what most people understand is that this impeachment was planned long before Trump took his oath of office. The Dems already made up their minds and moved in for the kill the moment they took over the House in 2018.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 12:33pm On Dec 11, 2019

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 2:55pm On Dec 11, 2019
Don Lemon TRIGGERED By Trump Thanos Troll Meme! STAGE 4 TDS! grin grin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haB95EdUE7o

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 7:25pm On Dec 11, 2019
obixcel:
Democrats Articles of Impeachment released. And that is the most hilarious accusation I have ever read...accusing President Trump of soliciting Ukraine to interfere in 2020 Election? O Boy! grin grin You can't make this up?! Well, the conclusion is that it will be a ROAD THAT LEADS TO NOWHERE. #SenateTrials
it is most hilarious of course! cheesy only when trump is involved, most hilarious is usually normality
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 7:42pm On Dec 11, 2019
Laurene:
you have no argument at all.. Why would he have to release his documents when the democrats hasn't released their own evidence?
Why would he release officials when the stupid democrats refused to release the supposed whitsle blower?
If he was really caught then the democrats should provide proof..
The president of Ukraine has denied being pressured to investigate biden's son.
The demo_rats has never hidden their dislike for trump even before taking the oat of office. They are just multi faceted, witch hunting, double faced hypocrites.
Lot of them will lose their seat during the next elections.
So I'm being shameless for standing for equity but your demo rats are not for supporting the worst president in US history in Obama?
Ad for Biden, he better pray to get the presidential tickets after this or else...
are you a typical republican? Oh sorry, yes of course you are otherwise you Won't ask a question as stupid as Why would he release officials when the stupid democrats refused to release the supposed whitsle blower? and the answer is simple even a simpleton should get it, the anonymity of the whistleblower is backed and protected by law and to reveal it in any fashion is a crime and even a half brained repugnicant should know this .... Gosh!
And on this question of yours, Why would he have to release his documents when the democrats hasn't released their own evidence? are you suggesting that evidence is supposed to have a partisan bias now? If not which one is "trump's evidence/documents vs democrats evidence/documents?" Maybe you don't know, but impeachment in the house is not a trial but an investigation, shouldn't a party accused of a crime provide every requested evidence by the investigating body to prove his/her innocence? The house subpoenaed records and key witnesses as they are empowered to do by the constitution and the white house refused to cooperate hence the charge of obstruction or are you suggesting the records are now partisan?
Why do almost all typical Republicans come of as very ignorant of basic civic education?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 7:52pm On Dec 11, 2019
obixcel:
Don Lemon TRIGGERED By Trump Thanos Troll Meme! STAGE 4 TDS! grin grin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haB95EdUE7o
Lol grin, Our thoughts and prayers go out to Don Lemon during this incredibly difficult time. grin grin grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 7:57pm On Dec 11, 2019
coluka:
To all those trying to gaslight and
claim the IG report found no
wrongdoing by the FBI,

The IG report revealed that The FBI:

Relied on fake Clinton-funded Steele dossier to target the Trump campaign.

Knew dossier was complete bunk by January 2017 and yet they kept suggesting otherwise to continue using it to seek spy warrants

Deceived and lied to the FISA court

Abused the FISA process

used a confidential human source to interact with and record conversations with Trump affiliates (Spying)

Doctored documents

Hid exculpatory evidence

Suppressed or ignored information negating the reliability of their principal source

Had no good explanation for these misconducts

Was rife with widespread wrongdoing


Anyone who would still defend these is either deceiving himself or just plain stupid
or maybe you are just too plain stupid to recognize that "clinton-funded" is not in the report, and steel himself was friends with ivanka and favourably disposed to the trumps as revealed by by the report, the FBI had agents as favourably disposed to the trumps as there were agents favourably disposed to the clintons debunking the FBI deep state pathological delusion, and the FBI wasn't rife with wrongdoings as misrepresentation of evidence to secure favourable FISA ruling to spy on one trump associate doesn't qualify as rife and as usual you cook up an alternate reality to justify the stupidity and crassness of the republican party or should i say trumpican party now as the Republicans we used to know had some modicum of dignity or maybe you're just deceiving yourself undecided
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 8:03pm On Dec 11, 2019
obixcel:
@Bolded Actually On the Contrary, what most people understand is that this impeachment was planned long before Trump took his oath of office. The Dems already made up their minds and moved in for the kill the moment they took over the House in 2018.
Is that the defense of the Republicans over the allegations against trump? Can a defence of "the prosecutions hates me" exonerate you from the crime? The Democrats accuse Trump of abuse of power, by blackmailing the Ukrainian president to announce an investigation into the Bidens and to publicly admit that they (rather than the Russians) interfered in the 2016 US elections. The Democrats presented their evidence (witness statements from diplomats involved with Ukraine and some officials of the state department ). Why not Republicans counter the witness statements and bring their own witnesses from the state department? Why always distracting from the subject matter, they hate Trump, Joe Biden is corrupt, whistleblower is a spy, Adam Schiff is planing a coup with Pelosi, the hearing are flawed because it's was done in secret, then the hearing is unfair because it is now done in the open, and all sorts of stupid excuses except the abuse of office allegations itself.
The Republicans hated Obama as much as the Democrats hated Trump, and at one time, the Republicans controlled both sides the house and the senate. Why not bring up a single allegation against Obama?
You guys keep forgetting that what goes around comes around. If as you guys are saying that there are no limits to executive power, then one day - whether in 2020 or 2024, the Democrats would control the white house. You guys will have no right to complain if a Democratic president further extends executive powers and become dictatorial.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 8:32pm On Dec 11, 2019
Catching up on IG Horowitz Senate hearing and It’s got so bad for James Comey and the fake news media's narratives that CNN and MSNBC stopped covering the hearings live. They can't afford to let their plantation niggers find out the truth grin

for example this answer by Horowitz,

Graham: Comey says he's vindicated by your report. True?

Horowitz: "The activities we found don't vindicate anyone who touched this."

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 8:37pm On Dec 11, 2019
Horowitz: Steele's political bias should have been disclosed to court. "any evidence of bias is supposed to be disclosed to the court."

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 8:38pm On Dec 11, 2019
Horowitz: "We were surprised to learn" that confidential human sources were used against members of a major party presidential campaign without approval of DOJ lawyers.

FBI used a pretext meeting with Trump to gather damaging information on Trump campaign for counterintelligence probe. Person presented as a briefer was actually gathering information.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 8:47pm On Dec 11, 2019
Trump did not receive defensive briefing on Russia interference. In fact, the FBI used the briefing to gather and record information for the counterintelligence probe. Horowitz says this is obviously very disconcerting.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 8:55pm On Dec 11, 2019
The FBI guy who doctored evidence literally texted someone "Viva La Resistance,"shocked

someone's going to jail grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 8:58pm On Dec 11, 2019
Graham: I don't know what McCabe and Comey knew but I'm dying to find out. Notes that FBI "Viva The Resistance" guy doctored email six months after they knew Steele dossier was garbage.

I say haul them before Congress let them testify under oath.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 9:07pm On Dec 11, 2019
Horowitz detailing precisely how the "Viva La Resistance" guy doctored evidence that would have been "very helpful" to Carter Page
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 9:25pm On Dec 11, 2019
wirinet:

Is that the defense of the Republicans over the allegations against trump? Can a defence of "the prosecutions hates me" exonerate you from the crime? The Democrats accuse Trump of abuse of power, by blackmailing the Ukrainian president to announce an investigation into the Bidens and to publicly admit that they (rather than the Russians) interfered in the 2016 US elections. The Democrats presented their evidence (witness statements from diplomats involved with Ukraine and some officials of the state department ). Why not Republicans counter the witness statements and bring their own witnesses from the state department? Why always distracting from the subject matter, they hate Trump, Joe Biden is corrupt, whistleblower is a spy, Adam Schiff is planing a coup with Pelosi, the hearing are flawed because it's was done in secret, then the hearing is unfair because it is now done in the open, and all sorts of stupid excuses except the abuse of office allegations itself.
The Republicans hated Obama as much as the Democrats hated Trump, and at one time, the Republicans controlled both sides the house and the senate. Why not bring up a single allegation against Obama?
You guys keep forgetting that what goes around comes around. If as you guys are saying that there are no limits to executive power, then one day - whether in 2020 or 2024, the Democrats would control the white house. You guys will have no right to complain if a Democratic president further extends executive powers and become dictatorial.
What allegations!? Bulsh*t, crapy, made up articles of impeachment. When I read the articles of impeachment, I almost laughed my lungs out. It's as nonsensical and baseless as it comes.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 10:03pm On Dec 11, 2019
Graham notes that IG found dossier was central and essential to securing wiretap on American citizens. Now explaining how that document was funded by Clinton/DNC and that FISA court was not told that. Neither were they told that dossier author was obsessed with defeating Trump.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 10:04pm On Dec 11, 2019
Now GRAHAM explaining how FBI blatantly doctored evidence and failed to mention exonerating evidence in order to secure a warrant to spy on an innocent U.S. citizen

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 10:08pm On Dec 11, 2019
GRAHAM Notes that manipulation of evidence changed Carter Page's HELP to his country to the opposite. Notes that attorney who doctored that evidence in order to violate Carter Page's civil liberties *also happened to have extreme partisan bias* against Trump.

Graham notes that newsrooms in America share this extreme partisan bias, as reflected in the texts from all these key FBI officials.

Lawyer who doctored evidence texted his worry that his name is on the documents targeting people affiliated with new administration.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 10:10pm On Dec 11, 2019
Graham: If FISA court doesn't take corrective action and do something about being manipulated and lied to, they will lose my support.

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