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Powerlessness Of Pvc's by Chibuzoc(m): 9:11am On Jun 05, 2018
To all PVC proponents and propagandists: KNOW THIS !

Paul Biya took over in Cameroun as president in November of '82. In spite of his highhandedness, Camerounians have gone to the polls 7 times, equipped with their PVC to remove him. They failed woefully! It's 36 years now!

For 38 years, Togolese struggled with their PVC to remove President Gnassingbe Eyadema. The more they try, the more they fail. Until his death in 2005, Gnassingbe ruled Togo in spite of the fact that he was rejected by the people. PVC could not help them. At his death however, his son, Faure Gnassingbe took over power! Up till date and for a period of 50 years and counting, 2 men ruled a country! A father and his son, just because the people are politically correct, waiting for election year to remove them with their PVC. What a miserable life?

Mobutu Sese Seko Kuku Ngbendu Wa Za Banga.

He took over power in Zaire in 1965 as a dictator after killing Patrice Lumumba. He later became a democrat and instead of open democracy, he unified all political parties under himself. People had PVC's but it was just another useless piece of paper. It took a combined military revolution by the Rwandan Tutsi and the Ugandan army to topple his government in 1997! 32 years on!

President Teodore Obiang Nguema Mbasongo of Malabo is still very much in power since 1979! Is it that Equatorial Guineans do no have their PVCs ? By all means they do but the yoke upon their necks cannot be broken by a piece of paper.

For 42 years 175 days, El Hadj Omar Bongo Ondinba ruled Gabon! PVC or not, he wins election after election. Till his death in 2009! Even after death, his Biafran adopted son, Ali Bongo Ondinba took over power till date!

What was I supposed to say concerning the famous Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe? If not for military revolution, even at 93 years he would have been in power still.
Over 40 years of rulership.

We could go on and on to cite examples but one thing remains outstanding in the case of Cameroun.

Haven tried all they could with their PVC, the southern part of Cameroun knew and understand the power of boycott!

Led by President Sisiku Ayuk Tabe who was later arrested by the brutish Nigerian army, the Republic of Ambazonia embarked on a total boycott in November 2017.
No election, no schools, no office, no banks and no nothing! They declared a ghost town in the whole of their region and by the first quarter of 2018, UN led peacekeeping forces landed in Cameroun! As I write now, serious plans are on-going for a UN monitored referendum for the Ambazonian Republic!

What they could not achieve with 32 years of voting and PVCs, they have achieved with 6 months of boycott!

It's left for you to decide whether the power of PVC is limited or not.

When next you are confronted by the PVC/vote advocates, ask them why has voting failed Africa since 1960?

It's civil disobedience and resistance that weakens despots and tyrants. Not votes and PVCs. Tyrants are even more afraid of boycott than they are of a revolution. They can crush revolutions, arrest the ringleaders, tag them treasonable felons and eliminate them but they have no antidote to a successful boycott.

Do you want to shake tables? Boycott is the fastest, cheapest, safest, painless and loudest route. You need your voice to be heard, boycott!

Think freedom, think boycott.

Don't be fooled or coerced into mistaking a tyrant for a democrat, or a Buhari for a Jonathan. Do not look at 2019 through the prism of 2015. Your votes didn't count then and definitely will not count tomorrow. You didn't vote out Jonathan and certainly cannot vote out Buhari.

Do not mistake countries where institutions are strong for this British political shithole.

Voting works where institutions are strong and independent of the central government, not in evil forests like nigger-area. What you do, every time you go out to vote, is to endorse your slavery and oil the chains that bind you.
While boycott will bring all stakeholders to the conference table, voting validates the charade of a (s)election.

"Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our own mind", Robert Nesta Rastaman Marley.

Nice time pals, as you think towards freeing yourself from all kinds of slavery; starting from religion to politics.
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Re: Powerlessness Of Pvc's by inscreAF: 9:21am On Jun 05, 2018
If votes don't count then how was Jonathan voted out? I'll wait

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Re: Powerlessness Of Pvc's by inscreAF: 9:25am On Jun 05, 2018
Voting doesn’t matter , yet Hillary was defeated by Trump.. Can u see the loopholes in your logic. I can give u more examples
Re: Powerlessness Of Pvc's by inscreAF: 9:35am On Jun 05, 2018
Your whole argument is anecdotal evidence, the fact that u copied n pasted this makes it clear that u have nothing of value to contribute. If u don't want to vote fine , but don't come here and spread misinformation and filth. Voting doesn’t count yet politicians bribe folks at polling units? Say something of value or shut your ass up.
Re: Powerlessness Of Pvc's by luvmijeje(f): 9:58am On Jun 05, 2018
OP, You are one of the problems of this country. You are one of the reasons politicians get to the seat of power and do nothing.

Who tells you votes don't count? Yes, they will rig but always remember that both side of the divide will rig. Their rigging will cancel each. And they can only rig where they are popular. Buhari can't go to the East to rig. E no possible. So voting matters.

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Re: Powerlessness Of Pvc's by HiddenShadow: 10:08am On Jun 05, 2018
inscreAF:
If votes don't count then how was Jonathan voted out? I'll wait

Because Jonathan is a democrat.
Re: Powerlessness Of Pvc's by HiddenShadow: 10:09am On Jun 05, 2018
luvmijeje:
OP, You are one of the problems of this country. You are one of the reasons politicians get to the seat of power and do nothing.

Who tells you votes don't count? Yes, they will rig but always remember that both side of the divide will rig. Their rigging will cancel each. And they can only rig where they are popular. Buhari can't go to the East to rig. E no possible. So voting matters.


If you vote counts, you won't have godsons as governors.
Re: Powerlessness Of Pvc's by inscreAF: 10:12am On Jun 05, 2018
HiddenShadow:


Because Jonathan is a democrat.

You have proven my point why votes count. Blessings to you and yours. Organise! Don't agonise!!

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Re: Powerlessness Of Pvc's by inscreAF: 10:16am On Jun 05, 2018
HiddenShadow:


Because Jonathan is a democrat.

In a democratic system, voting simply translates to sending out the right message to the government. It is only fair that a non-performing government should be punished, and one that has been doing a good job be appreciated and voted to power. And this is the responsibility of every citizen of the country.
Re: Powerlessness Of Pvc's by luvmijeje(f): 10:23am On Jun 05, 2018
HiddenShadow:



If you vote counts, you won't have godsons as governors.

Every politicians have a godfather. You can't get to the height of politics without having those connection. It's not a Nigeria issue. It's a world wide phenomenon.
Re: Powerlessness Of Pvc's by seunmsg(m): 10:29am On Jun 05, 2018
luvmijeje:
OP, You are one of the problems of this country. You are one of the reasons politicians get to the seat of power and do nothing.

Who tells you votes don't count? Yes, they will rig but always remember that both side of the divide will rig. Their rigging will cancel each. And they can only rig where they are popular. Buhari can't go to the East to rig. E no possible. So voting matters.

Votes count but not in the way most people think. Votes count to the extent that political elites wants it to. Currently in Ekiti, the governorship election is between Fayemi and Eleka. Fayose imposed Eleka on PDP while the Abuja power brokers of APC imposed Fayemi on APC. Both candidates are not the popular choice of Ekiti people but as it stands, they have no choice than to choose between the two. Whatever is the outcome of Ekiti election, it will still be a victory for the ruling political elites and not the people.

The above scenario is what the OP is trying to paint. If the people truly want to have a say in who gets elected, they must hijack the party nomination process from the political elites. Waiting till election day before making your political decision through the ballot is relatively futile as the elites have already made the decision for you during the party primaries.

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Re: Powerlessness Of Pvc's by luvmijeje(f): 10:39am On Jun 05, 2018
seunmsg:


Votes count but not in the way most people think. Votes count to the extent that political elites wants it to. Currently in Ekiti, the governorship election is between Fayemi and Eleka. Fayose imposed Eleka on PDP while the Abuja power brokers of APC imposed Fayemi on APC. Both candidates are not the popular choice of Ekiti people but as it stands, they have no choice than to choose between the two. Whatever is the outcome of Ekiti election, it will still be a victory for the ruling political elites and not the people.

The above scenario is what the OP is trying to paint. If the people truly want to have a say in who gets elected, they must hijack the party nomination process from the political elites. Waiting till election day before making your political decision through the ballot is relatively futile as the elites have already made the decision for you during the party primaries.

You have made a powerful point but you have failed to realize that the party is the bedrock of democracy. APC and PDP are not the only parties in Nigeria. Let other candidates create or join another party. If they are indeed popular, they will get a significant vote even if they don't win.

I'll give you an example. When Jimmy Agbaje first came out, he contested under an unknown party and he got an impressive votes after doing well in the gubernatorial debate. That's why PDP fielded him in the last election.

If you are indeed popular with the people , prove it under an unknown party.
Re: Powerlessness Of Pvc's by dudebuck: 10:51am On Jun 05, 2018
inscreAF:
If votes don't count then how was Jonathan voted out? I'll wait
you did not vote JOnathan out, you certainly will not vote out Buhari.
Re: Powerlessness Of Pvc's by dudebuck: 10:52am On Jun 05, 2018
luvmijeje:


Every politicians have a godfather. You can't get to the height of politics without having those connection. It's not a Nigeria issue. It's a world wide phenomenon.
No! You are wrong! Donald Trump doesn't have a godfather, if he had, then what is his name?
Re: Powerlessness Of Pvc's by dudebuck: 10:54am On Jun 05, 2018
luvmijeje:


You have made a powerful point but you have failed to realize that the party is the bedrock of democracy. APC and PDP are not the only parties in Nigeria. Let other candidates create or join another party. If they are indeed popular, they will get a significant vote even if they don't win.

I'll give you an example. When Jimmy Agbaje first came out, he contested under an unknown party and he got an impressive votes after doing well in the gubernatorial debate. That's why PDP fielded him in the last election.

If you are indeed popular with the people , prove it under an unknown party.
Did Jimi Agbaje win? No!

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Re: Powerlessness Of Pvc's by dudebuck: 10:55am On Jun 05, 2018
inscreAF:


In a democratic system, voting simply translates to sending out the right message to the government. It is only fair that a non-performing government should be punished, and one that has been doing a good job be appreciated and voted to power. And this is the responsibility of every citizen of the country.
That is in countries where the institutions are strong. Not a zoo like Nigeria

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Re: Powerlessness Of Pvc's by dudebuck: 11:00am On Jun 05, 2018
inscreAF:
Your whole argument is anecdotal evidence, the fact that u copied n pasted this makes it clear that u have nothing of value to contribute. If u don't want to vote fine , but don't come here and spread misinformation and filth. Voting doesn’t count yet politicians bribe folks at polling units? Say something of value or shut your ass up.
Those poeple at the polling units are used to legitimize the whole charade. Take Anambra as a good example, those few 1diots that went to vote legitimized the illegitimate government in Anambra, only for the head of that government to issued an edidct that criminalizes Okada riding, which is a bread winning activity for a lot of Anambraians, including the 1diots that legitimized the otherwise illegitimate government of Obiano.

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Re: Powerlessness Of Pvc's by buhariguy(m): 11:02am On Jun 05, 2018
Pls the jobless lazy idiotic pigs of Biafra should boycott the 2019 election as directed by that akuna akuna wife of their supreme terrorist leader.

The op must be an enemy of the jobless lazy idiotic pigs of Biafra.

Op is working for the project called " buhari till 2023"
Re: Powerlessness Of Pvc's by luvmijeje(f): 11:02am On Jun 05, 2018
dudebuck:
Did Jimi Agbaje win? No!

No he didn't. But he made a mark. He's no longer a push over and through it he has gotten the needed connection.

The person who won my district in the house election came out from Accord party.
Re: Powerlessness Of Pvc's by luvmijeje(f): 11:09am On Jun 05, 2018
dudebuck:
No! You are wrong! Donald Trump doesn't have a godfather, if he had, then what is his name?

Who are the people who contributed to his campaign? I'll list one of the popular organization...... The National Rifle organization(NRA). That's why despite several mass shooting in America, he refuse to sign or present a bill that will affect the organization.

There are a lot of interest group or individuals sponsoring a politician. You can't do it all alone.
Re: Powerlessness Of Pvc's by inscreAF: 11:42am On Jun 05, 2018
dudebuck:
you did not vote JOnathan out, you certainly will not vote out Buhari.

Just the same way people never believed Jonathan could lose. Stay ignorant bro
Re: Powerlessness Of Pvc's by dudebuck: 1:56pm On Jun 05, 2018
inscreAF:

Just the same way people never believed Jonathan could lose. Stay ignorant bro
Okay na, no problem. But know that Buhari is here to stay. I am not his fan BTW.
Re: Powerlessness Of Pvc's by dudebuck: 2:08pm On Jun 05, 2018
luvmijeje:


Who are the people who contributed to his campaign? I'll list one of the popular organization...... The National Rifle organization(NRA). That's why despite several mass shooting in America, he refuse to sign or present a bill that will affect the organization.

There are a lot of interest group or individuals sponsoring a politician. You can't do it all alone.
No, the ignorant fellow is you, The gun rights is one of the fundamental rights an American has, this is because of the history of tge US itself, the then European kingdoms were very oppressive so people went to America to build a new life, which is why They called it the New world, now they had to build a new system were the government cannot oppress the poeple, the people had a good measure of power, one of those powers was the ability to have guns, with that the people can protect themselves from the government if the government decides to go rogue. This is called the Second Amendment. The Democrats who are the wolves in sheep clothing don't like it, that is why in states where the dems rule, people do not have Gun rights, and if some one gets a gun Illegally he can use it to shoot many poeple, but in states where everyone has the right to own at least one gun(ruled by Republicans ), there is less mass shooting, because if I open fire on a group, another person close by will open fire on me immidiately, there by stopping the carnage. So the argument against gun rights or NRA is completely baseless. Their gun is their power.
The NRA is nobody' god father.

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Re: Powerlessness Of Pvc's by dudebuck: 2:09pm On Jun 05, 2018
luvmijeje:


No he didn't. But he made a mark. He's no longer a push over and through it he has gotten the needed connection.

The person who won my district in the house election came out from Accord party.
making a mark is not eqaul to winning.

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Re: Powerlessness Of Pvc's by Chibuzoc(m): 3:49pm On Jun 05, 2018
inscreAF:
Voting doesn’t matter , yet Hillary was defeated by Trump.. Can u see the loopholes in your logic. I can give u more examples

Do not mistake countries where institutions are strong for this British political shithole.

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