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Answers Needed, No One Should Take It Personal by Nobody: 9:19am On Jun 10, 2018 |
I was in an argument with a friend and coworker on certain things in the Bible that no one have been able to explain, he tried explaining but I wasn't convinced with the answers. Here are some of the questions. 1) in Genesis 7:2, Noah was instructed to take seven animals each. My question is how was he (Noah) able to take seven animals each knowing they are more than 8.7 million species of Animals. And if everyone on earth but Noah’s family was killed in a great flood, did Noah’s kids sleep with each other? Isn’t this a sin? 2) Why did Bible not talk much about the father of Abraham or how he was born ( The Bible doesn't say where Abraham was born. Abraham first appears in the Bible in Genesis 11:27) , secondly Bible says ( Take your son, your only son, Isaac, whom you love, and go to the region of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains I will tell you about'” (Genesis 22:2). Why didn't Bible recommended Ishmael as the son of Abraham, why only Isaac. 3) In Genesis 19:26 But Lot's wife looked back, and she became a pillar of salt. Did anyone witness Lot's wife becoming a pillar of salt when she looked back at Sodom? If yes who's the person that witnesses her becoming pillar of salt. (Note: Her husband or kids didn't look back) 4) Job 1:1-22 (Job 1:20–22 God talked to Satan again. He said everything had been taken from Job. And Job was still righteous. But Satan said Job would not be righteous if he were very sick. So God said Satan could make Job sick. But Satan could not kill him.) Question What’s the deal with Job? Does god and Satan normally sit around talking about how to test people to see if they are loyal to god? What is with that? 5) In Joshua (1-24) Why have the Jews go across the promised land killing everyone and everything in sight? Isn’t that the first genocide ever recorded theoretically? 6) Where is the tree of life? From reading Genesis it would be safe to assume it still exists. Where is it? Don’t you think someone would have noticed a flaming sword out in the middle of nowhere? 7) Why didn’t Jesus have any female disciples (or did he) And was Eve really to blame for everything? 8.) Jeremiah 1:5 “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.” Question: Does it mean God knows what we will become in life and also know how we gonna die? Please all I want are answers and not insults, I'm a Christian who's confused about some certain things in the Bible and thinking of becoming an Atheist because of all the unanswered questions. Thanks
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Re: Answers Needed, No One Should Take It Personal by Nobody: 9:26am On Jun 10, 2018 |
As a Yoruba Muslim, go ask your lmam |
Re: Answers Needed, No One Should Take It Personal by Nobody: 9:31am On Jun 10, 2018 |
I do appreciate should this make front page, thanks |
Re: Answers Needed, No One Should Take It Personal by Siki355(m): 9:32am On Jun 10, 2018 |
d mods should pls do d needful |
Re: Answers Needed, No One Should Take It Personal by Whysoserious: 9:51am On Jun 10, 2018 |
Here is my take. I can not provide much answer for you because I don't have them. However, becoming an atheist isn't something you should be considering. You shouldn't be going from trying to see a light back into total darkness. Already you believe in the existence of God only that you haven't discovered a way to connect and see the light. Don't go back to not believing at all. I am not criticizing anyone but the English Bible over the years has become a book Christians are meant to take with "faith". No questions asked whatsoever. So for the simple fact that you are raising questions means you are reading genuinely to find answers. There are lots of illogical things in the bible. You see, Christians filter through this book, take what works for them and ignore the rest and maybe its the English bible and the message portrayed. But numerous times as I have read some parts...they don't make sense. Ask a pastor and they would say " you need the holy spirit to understand". I mean, God's words should be clear,right?. Perhaps you should try to find other ways to link with God. Believe me, if you look at the bigger picture of the situation of the world rn, we are in the dark times. May God give you the grace and opportunity to find him as he has helped others who seeked answers. 4 Likes |
Re: Answers Needed, No One Should Take It Personal by Avoidsexxx(m): 9:51am On Jun 10, 2018 |
#life past what you see on youtubes #life is full of mysteries |
Re: Answers Needed, No One Should Take It Personal by Whysoserious: 9:59am On Jun 10, 2018 |
PS... My mind was as inquisitive as yours also. And I was getting depressed too until I actually tried to see why there was so much heat on the second major religion we have in this country. I am not trying to promote things. But if you would think why there is so much heat on something and actually look into it yourself, you will see things you never knew you never knew. Like I said, the bigger picture is what you should try to see. Just don't go back to atheism. That would be an act of ingratitude to God. We don't even know how we got here. John 25: 4-6 demonstrates Jesus -as holy as christiandom see him- as a worm. And the rest of us, maggots. It means we are so tiny. So insignificant. Never should you think we can by our own will get this life. God made all this. Find God in places you don't think you want to... But never go back to atheism. That is the worst you can do. 1 Like |
Re: Answers Needed, No One Should Take It Personal by Gggg102(m): 10:22am On Jun 10, 2018 |
Third question. Lot's wife could have been at the front of the other family members and when she looked back, the others saw her from behind. 2 Likes |
Re: Answers Needed, No One Should Take It Personal by histemple: 10:24am On Jun 10, 2018 |
This should be up on the front page. |
Re: Answers Needed, No One Should Take It Personal by Whysoserious: 10:31am On Jun 10, 2018 |
Gggg102: She being at the back was the mental picture the bible gave. Mental picture is everything. The way you read it is the way you see it. |
Re: Answers Needed, No One Should Take It Personal by rex444(m): 11:31am On Jun 10, 2018 |
Beautiful questions, smart one but it takes a stern priest well grounded to guide you but all these may not have answers which is where the assumption of faith is applied |
Re: Answers Needed, No One Should Take It Personal by Nobody: 11:59am On Jun 10, 2018 |
Any sensible person will easily sense the confusions in the Bible, the one u listed is very minute |
Re: Answers Needed, No One Should Take It Personal by Nobody: 12:36pm On Jun 10, 2018 |
YoungFr: 1 Like |
Re: Answers Needed, No One Should Take It Personal by M0ron: 12:39pm On Jun 10, 2018 |
YoungFr: Good jokes |
Re: Answers Needed, No One Should Take It Personal by Nobody: 1:27pm On Jun 10, 2018 |
[quote author=Luciferan369 post=68347043][/quote] Had some point and questions to ask about your answers but me asking will only lead to more confusion, so I gat to take your answer for now |
Re: Answers Needed, No One Should Take It Personal by Nobody: 1:36pm On Jun 10, 2018 |
YoungFr: Noted. Confusion is legitimate. |
Re: Answers Needed, No One Should Take It Personal by InansBobo(m): 3:58pm On Jun 10, 2018 |
I don't have your answers but don't go and become an atheist. If you are confuse, just believe there's God and there's heaven and hell and do all Jesus said you should do so you are not taken unawares in the last days |
Re: Answers Needed, No One Should Take It Personal by MuttleyLaff: 4:21pm On Jun 10, 2018 |
YoungFr:YoungFr , next time, do discussion, instead of argument, as an argument, is an exchange of ignorance, whereas a discussion, is an exchange of knowledge. YoungFr:He didnt need to take the 8.7 million species of animals, all he needed to take were seven animals each from the genus of the 8.7 million species of animals (i.e. all he needed to take take seven animal pairs of their original kind, from/out of the 8.7 million species of animals) YoungFr:8The LORD was pleased with Noah, however. 9These are the family records of Noah: Noah was a righteous man. Blameless during his times - Genesis 6:8-9 Noah’s kids sleeping with each other at this stage, isn't necessarily sinful, as besides, the earth needed repopulated and this merely is acting out of a past event that similarly happened with the first family (i.e. Adam & Eve's) and their kids Genesis 6:8-9 is very useful and informative in understanding how Noah kept the human genome, DNA and gene pool pure from abstaining from the Genesis 6:1-6 amorous congress activities YoungFr:If it was necessary to talk much about the father of Abraham or how he was born, it would have been done. YoungFr:And Terah took his son Abram, his grandson Lot son of Haran, and his daughter-in-law Sarai the wife of Abram, and they set out from Ur of the Chaldeans for the land of Canaan. - Genesis 11:31 YoungFr:Ishmael, is, recognised as the son of Abraham Ishmael, however, isnt recommended as the child or son of promise and that is why the bible doesnt put Ishmael forward as the child or son that was promised Abraham YoungFr:As soon as the men had brought them out, one of them said, “Run for your lives! Do not look back, and do not stop anywhere on the plain! Flee to the mountains, or you will be swept away!” - Genesis 19:17 It is not a literal pillar of salt YoungFr Believers are described as the salt of the earth, but when priorities become not quite in line with God's, like Lot's wife missing or longing for what has been condemned, then the preservation pillar of salt attitude, will unceremoniously be caught up in and swept away by the rising levels of flowing lava YoungFr:Death, comes to good and bad so it's the resilience of man, that's the deal with Job. YoungFr:And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: - Genesis 3:14 Not necessarily however Satan, as per Genesis 3:14 above, is prowling around, like a roaring lion, looking for anyone he can devour (i.e. eat) YoungFr:Satan, as we all know, did a job, on Jesus Christ Though Satan was told he could not kill Job, it didnt stop him to kill God The thing is, Job, is a type of Jesus Christ They both had everything going for them. Both lost everything, both were tempted Both were falsely accused of being sinners Both sufferred, though did nothing wrong Both remain steadfast and faithful to God Both were blessed, more abundantly at the end YoungFr:This was not and isnt genocide, it is God's Righteous Judgment You referenced Joshua (i.e. chapters 1-24) and said the Jews went across the promised land killing everyone and everything in sight but this isnt true, as the facts and truth are glaringly there to see, that Rahab in Joshua 6 and Gibeonites in Joshua 9 were spared YoungFr:He that has an ear let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the congregations {Gr. ekklesia – called out ones}; To him that overcomes (i.e. conquers) I will give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God. - Revelation 2:7 What does the moniker "YoungFr" mean or allude to? Does it have anything to do with the seminary? It might help in giving an explanation about the section, if you tell YoungFr:The tree of life, the garden of Eden and/or flaming sword has a double meaning The flaming sword isn't, to be mistakenly interpreted, in any particular way, to outrightly be a physical or actual flaming sword. Retropectively, it is something, that looked like a flaming sword, preventing forbidden and unauthorised access back to the presence and essence of the Godhead YoungFr:1And it came to pass afterward, that he went throughout every city and village, preaching and shewing the glad tidings of the kingdom of God: and the twelve were with him, 2And certain women, which had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities, Mary called Magdalene, out of whom went seven devils, 3And Joanna the wife of Chuza Herod's steward and Susanna, and many others, which ministered unto him of their substance - Luke 8:1-3 Jesus had many female disciples. Of course, yes, Jesus did have female disciples YoungFr:And the man answered, “The woman whom You gave me, she gave me fruit from the tree, and I ate it.” - Genesis 3:12 10Then Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are your accusers? Has no one condemned you?” 11“No one, Lord,” she answered. “Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Now go and sin no more.” - John 8:10-11 You need to re-read Genesis 3:12 and John 8:10-11 above, to see the woman 4000 years later, absolved from blame YoungFr:Let's put it this way. A good chess player thinks five moves ahead but God thinks right until the end of the last move on a board. That is part of how God, with good algorithmic solutions, knows the end from the beginning. God knows what you'll become in life Also knows when, where, how, why you're gonna die and what you're going to die from or of. Inspite of knowing all these outcomes, of the end from the beginning, He still, allows the action or process of bringing you into existence. No matter what, God will not deny you, your arrival and the existence to be Pharaoh? Did God know? Check Adam & Eve? Did God know? Check Cain? Did God know? Check YoungFr:Better the devil, you know, than the devil you don't 3 Likes |
Re: Answers Needed, No One Should Take It Personal by Anas09: 6:19pm On Jun 10, 2018 |
@YoungFr. Muttleylaff has provided you with the answers you claim to seek even when your own assertion of not being convinced with the answers someone else had previously given, tells more of your motive. Your tone here is far from a seeker. You seem more like a scorner than a seeker. I'm waiting to see how you'd wriggle yourself out of the answers provided for you. It'll tell if you are indeed a Churchgoer or an atheist pretending to be a Christian. |
Re: Answers Needed, No One Should Take It Personal by Nobody: 8:01pm On Jun 10, 2018 |
I'm lil bit convinced with the answers given so far, you can call me a church goer (that's why I'm seeking answers) but don't call me an atheist cos I believe so much in God that there's no day I don't play or listen to Christian music. In diff occasions God have been faithful to me so I have no doubts about his existence but I'm just confused about some verses in the Bible. What made me more confused is Jehovah Witnesses Bible, do you know that some verses are missing from the New Testament that lots of people didn't noticed it, I can give you more than 20 verses that's in KJV but not in Jehovah's Witnesses Bible. |
Re: Answers Needed, No One Should Take It Personal by Nobody: 8:02pm On Jun 10, 2018 |
Anas09: Funny you, well I'm lil bit convinced |
Re: Answers Needed, No One Should Take It Personal by Anas09: 8:38pm On Jun 10, 2018 |
YoungFr:Which part is not convincing? |
Re: Answers Needed, No One Should Take It Personal by MuttleyLaff: 8:38pm On Jun 10, 2018 |
YoungFr:The father at once cried out, "I do have faith, but not enough. Help me have more!" - Mark 9:24 2 Likes |
Re: Answers Needed, No One Should Take It Personal by Maamin(m): 8:46pm On Jun 10, 2018 |
Those questions are too soft to make one an atheist even without answers. Anyways! Well done @MuttleyLaff |
Re: Answers Needed, No One Should Take It Personal by Anas09: 9:03pm On Jun 10, 2018 |
YoungFr:That is because they have something they want to hide. A serious Bible Student should have more than 2 Versions of the Bible. I don't read only KJV. I have KJV, The Message Bible, Good News, Contemporary English Version, and Amplified Version. Forget about congregational doctrines, abeg look into the Word and ask the Holy Spirit to open your ears to hear the voice of the Word of God. Your mind's disposition right now is not that of a seeker, but a scoffer, with this, the Holy Spirit will just be looking at you. A seeker is someone who is 'Poor in the Spirit', it is on this premise that what The Lord Jesus said will come alive. 'He that seeketh shall find'. With your premise you are taking a position of someone who calls God a liar and is out to call jabbers to come malign the Only Potentate. I is well. 1 Like |
Re: Answers Needed, No One Should Take It Personal by philoo(m): 9:42pm On Jun 10, 2018 |
YoungFr: 1 Like |
Re: Answers Needed, No One Should Take It Personal by philoo(m): 9:43pm On Jun 10, 2018 |
YoungFr: |
Re: Answers Needed, No One Should Take It Personal by MuttleyLaff: 2:38am On Jun 11, 2018 |
YoungFr: philoo:[img]https://s1/images/Kayefi.jpg[/img] Kayefi. Half angel half human entities? Nah, this is an off the scale fairy tale as the Nephilim arent half Angel half human entities 1 Like |
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