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Re: Need Advice On Salary At My New Job by candyguyofficia(m): 9:11pm On Jun 22, 2018
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Re: Need Advice On Salary At My New Job by rayobaba(m): 9:19pm On Jun 22, 2018
Don't pick range. Pick a figure. Tell them 250k. If u are their best during d interview, they wl tell u wat they can offer. It's better to price high than low. Pricing low can downgrade u and wl forever hunt you if u later found out they can offer more. Be smart.

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Re: Need Advice On Salary At My New Job by ogzille(m): 9:25pm On Jun 22, 2018
Re: Need Advice On Salary At My New Job by AgentGoat: 9:44pm On Jun 22, 2018
fruqy:
Hello everyone.

Please I need your advice. This is my first post on nairaland

I was interviewed for a job at a hotel and when it came to the "How much do you expect us to pay you?" question, I didn't know what to tell them.
Its a 5 star hotel and I will be overseeing their Information Technology Department. I will be in charge of their website, social media accounts, hotel management system and also be in charge of their software and hardware maintenance. They have two branches and I will be overseeing both of them.

I was thinking 200k but I don't know if it's too small or too much.

I need your advice guys.

I have to get back to them tomorrow.

Thank you.




300k the job role is too much.

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Re: Need Advice On Salary At My New Job by Swissheart(f): 10:01pm On Jun 22, 2018
Bros.....for a 5star hotel and with the roles attached to the position, 300k-350k is the deal. Most hotels pay in the range of 220k-250k for that position

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Re: Need Advice On Salary At My New Job by Rhea(f): 10:04pm On Jun 22, 2018
fruqy:
Hello everyone.

Please I need your advice. This is my first post on nairaland

I was interviewed for a job at a hotel and when it came to the "How much do you expect us to pay you?" question, I didn't know what to tell them.
Its a 5 star hotel and I will be overseeing their Information Technology Department. I will be in charge of their website, social media accounts, hotel management system and also be in charge of their software and hardware maintenance. They have two branches and I will be overseeing both of them.

I was thinking 200k but I don't know if it's too small or too much.

I need your advice guys.

I have to get back to them tomorrow.

Thank you.


Find out what your peers are earning. Then double it and start from there
Re: Need Advice On Salary At My New Job by zone51: 10:09pm On Jun 22, 2018
fruqy:
Hello everyone.

Please I need your advice. This is my first post on nairaland

I was interviewed for a job at a hotel and when it came to the "How much do you expect us to pay you?" question, I didn't know what to tell them.
Its a 5 star hotel and I will be overseeing their Information Technology Department. I will be in charge of their website, social media accounts, hotel management system and also be in charge of their software and hardware maintenance. They have two branches and I will be overseeing both of them.

I was thinking 200k but I don't know if it's too small or too much.

I need your advice guys.

I have to get back to them tomorrow.

Thank you.


I was in this situation 2 weeks ago, I got insider info that other managers are being paid 200k BUT the IT guy that is resigning is being paid 75k.

So I leverage on the info and told them I am currently earning 80k Where I am coming from, and I look at nothing less than 150k. They said 100k, I stood my ground that 150k.

My brother, I was given my appointment letter few days ago, to resume next month.

So, you shouldn't go below 150k, mind you...you will be on probation for 6 months, which IF confirmed and play office politics well [Hotel job is like that] wink, you will definitely get your salary increased.
Re: Need Advice On Salary At My New Job by CChillz: 10:11pm On Jun 22, 2018
Give them a range of 250k - 300k, then tell them you expect subsequent increase in the future. this will make them know that you are entitled to an increase. Most times, why they ask this question of how much do you want us to pay you, they want to prevent the issue of
1. subsequent increase in salary since you are the one choosing your salary scale.
2. They wanna see if you actually know your worth.
NB: you were supposed to find out the salary scale for you job role before now, just talk with a worker there or a cleaner or a waiter and ask them what the pay is like for different position, you should be able to get a clue of what they pay you job role.
Re: Need Advice On Salary At My New Job by Elbizzcklinz(m): 10:46pm On Jun 22, 2018
fruqy:
Hello everyone.

Please I need your advice. This is my first post on nairaland

I was interviewed for a job at a hotel and when it came to the "How much do you expect us to pay you?" question, I didn't know what to tell them.
Its a 5 star hotel and I will be overseeing their Information Technology Department. I will be in charge of their website, social media accounts, hotel management system and also be in charge of their software and hardware maintenance. They have two branches and I will be overseeing both of them.

I was thinking 200k but I don't know if it's too small or too much.

I need your advice guys.

I have to get back to them tomorrow.

Thank you.

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Re: Need Advice On Salary At My New Job by millionboi2: 10:47pm On Jun 22, 2018
fruqy:
Hello everyone.

Please I need your advice. This is my first post on nairaland

I was interviewed for a job at a hotel and when it came to the "How much do you expect us to pay you?" question, I didn't know what to tell them.
Its a 5 star hotel and I will be overseeing their Information Technology Department. I will be in charge of their website, social media accounts, hotel management system and also be in charge of their software and hardware maintenance. They have two branches and I will be overseeing both of them.

I was thinking 200k but I don't know if it's too small or too much.

I need your advice guys.

I have to get back to them tomorrow.

Thank you.

Something tells me u are lyin
Re: Need Advice On Salary At My New Job by deepwater(f): 11:06pm On Jun 22, 2018
Justbeingreal:
Hotel 200k Hmmmm!

5 Star, they can afford far more than that bro
Re: Need Advice On Salary At My New Job by homosapien(m): 11:10pm On Jun 22, 2018
fruqy:
Hello everyone.

Please I need your advice. This is my first post on nairaland

I was interviewed for a job at a hotel and when it came to the "How much do you expect us to pay you?" question, I didn't know what to tell them.
Its a 5 star hotel and I will be overseeing their Information Technology Department. I will be in charge of their website, social media accounts, hotel management system and also be in charge of their software and hardware maintenance. They have two branches and I will be overseeing both of them.

I was thinking 200k but I don't know if it's too small or too much.

I need your advice guys.

I have to get back to them tomorrow.

Thank you.



Please Nigeria has a country don't have five star hotel. thank you
Re: Need Advice On Salary At My New Job by romme2u: 12:52am On Jun 23, 2018
Op you are not qualified for those job roles

Experience should tell you what a senior IT personnel should earn at an enterprise level establishment like a five star hotel

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Re: Need Advice On Salary At My New Job by Godwin616: 3:44am On Jun 23, 2018
romme2u:
Op you are not qualified for those job roles

Experience should tell you what a senior IT personnel should earn at an enterprise level establishment like a five star hotel
You are right. You spoke my mind. How can you be a senior IT personnel and you dont know your worth. Are you a starter? How many years of professional experience do you have and how much were you earning in your previous job. These are some of the factors to consider

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Re: Need Advice On Salary At My New Job by fruqy(m): 4:31am On Jun 23, 2018
kunleweb:




Jesus Christ look at how you're pricing yourself to oblivion. These are too much responsibilities for 200k, up it to 300k, give them list of responsibilities, economic surge and issues and tell them your experiences and more this is why they need you.

Quote jargons they don't know those technical jargons nor can verify, what you tell them is what they'll believe. How you sell yourself is how you will be priced. 200k self. See this guy, if i catch you by the tie ehn?


Also never rush to undermine yourself before any employer, tell them you're open for offers when asked how much you like to earn, answer the question with the responsibilities you will be providing the company, managing two branches means like working at two different stations, transport in between, ups and downs in between, you'll train other workers and impact some of your knowledge.


300k must be the minimum you present o. Don't come back and tell us story, i want to hear you come back and say you both agreed for 250k. Cause when you deduct expenses and forced transportation shuttling two branches will make you undertake, you'll know 200k is peanuts


Tell them all experienced Freelance ICT gurus earn 300k monthly from home, and very few free ones are very skilled, it's a fact. Don;t accept 200k for the work easily unless you have a written agreement for increment after a mutually agreed time


BY THE WAY I'M WELL INFORMED FIVE STAR HOTELS PAY 300K EVEN AT ENTRY LEVEL FOR NORMAL WORKERS LET ALONE ICT CHIEF


I CHANGE MY MOUTH, TELL THEM ANYWHERE BETWEEN 350 - 400K MONTHLY BECAUSE OF YOUR QUALITIES WHAT YOU BRING TO THE TABLE, THE CONTRIBUTIONS YOU WILL MAKE TO THE ORGANIZATION, AND YOU'LL MAKE A NEW INNOVATION MONTHLY, BROS IF YOU LACK IDEAS FOR EACH NEW MONTH, THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE BROTHERS HERE. PLEASE 400K PER MONTH, IT'S A FIVE STAR HOTEL, MANY TIMES A ROOM IS CHARGED ALMOST TEN BILLION, THEY HAVE THE BAR. RAISE YOUR BAR. DRESS CUTE, GET A CLEAN SHAVE, WEAR A SUIT, JUMIA ONE FOR 15K WITH A NEW SHOE FROM LAMORE AND SMACK THESE GUYS BACK DOWN NWANNE



NWANNE TELL THEM ALL ICT GUYS HAVE A BACK ROOM SUPPORT TEAM TO PROVIDE TECHNICAL SUPPORT AND ADDENDUM EXPERTISE, EVEN IN CONSULTING AND MORE THAT FORM PART OF OUR BACKBONE, TELL THEM YOU HAVE SPECIALISED HANDS THAT CAN ATTEND TO THEIR NEEDS IN ANY FORM OF CRISIS ( NA LIE, NA WE HERE, WE WILL SUPPORT YOU, ON ANY KIND OF ICT PROBLEMS ) JUST TALK TALL PLEASE AND GET THIS JOB.



GOOD LUCK


Thank you for this. It has really helped a lot.
Re: Need Advice On Salary At My New Job by fruqy(m): 4:35am On Jun 23, 2018
totalhouse:

The best way to answer them is to first ask for them to give you an offer (the amount they want to offer you) then you can now add to it as your request.

I actually did, they told me that I have to talk first which made it complicated.
Re: Need Advice On Salary At My New Job by fruqy(m): 4:36am On Jun 23, 2018
millionboi2:
Something tells me u are lyin

I'm not. Why would anyone make this up?
Re: Need Advice On Salary At My New Job by kilonso001(m): 5:20am On Jun 23, 2018
I don't think 200k is too small for a start as an IT manager for a 5 star hotel.

I used to work as the IT manager of a 4 star hotel while in Nigeria and I earn around that range.

However there is something you are missing out. And that is your service charge. It is very important you negotiate this very well as it will augument your salary. A 5 star hotel should be able to pay you a service charge of almost 100k every month as an IT manager and you must also be entitled to a free lunch daily amongst other things.

If these are not included in the package, my guy run for your life oooooooo

IT work in hotels no be moi moi ooooo. You will practically be in the office 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, once anything goes wrong in the hotel, they blame it on you. Even if the hotel is not at 100 % occupancy, they say it's the IT Dept.

The 200k salary will amount to nothing without these incentives. You could also ask for more incentives other than the 2 I mentioned above, like monthly data and call recharge, paid leave, medical insurance etc.

But don't just accept 200k and think it's a lot of money. With a 5 star hotel with 2 branches, am sure you will run away after 3 months if you are based on that salary.

You can DM for more information. Which I will readily give you at no cost.

Wish you all the best.

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Re: Need Advice On Salary At My New Job by kunleweb: 6:18am On Jun 23, 2018
fruqy:



Thank you for this. It has really helped a lot.



wink
Re: Need Advice On Salary At My New Job by Jubizy(m): 6:47am On Jun 23, 2018
I'd advice you say they should pay you according to the company salary structure.... Who knows might be more than what u expect... Since it's a 5star company... And if it's lesser you can always call their attention to it
Re: Need Advice On Salary At My New Job by MaziOmenuko: 6:50am On Jun 23, 2018
My friend went for an interview as a regional sales manager. When he was asked how much he wants, he said N250k per month; he was receiving N150k where he was working. He was employed by the new company with a salary of N250k. He resumed and realized that the zonal sales managers reporting to him were pocketing N300k and that his position is valued at N400k (that was what other regional sales managers were earning).

Long story short, he later met with the HR who told him the company met with his expectations. It was promised that his sales incentives will be made more mouth-watering. So he has to toil to make what his subordinates make as statutory pay.

Learning point: do a little investigation before you undervalue yourself.

Note: this story could have been a reversal whereby my friend lost the job becuase he insisted on a certain figure which the company couldn't afford.

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Re: Need Advice On Salary At My New Job by bet9ja(m): 7:43am On Jun 23, 2018
MaziOmenuko:
My friend went for an interview as a regional sales manager. When he was asked how much he wants, he said N250k per month; he was receiving N150k where he was working. He was employed by the new company with a salary of N250k. He resumed and realized that the zonal sales managers reporting to him were pocketing N300k and that his position is valued at N400k (that was what other regional zone managers were warning).

Long story short, he later met with the HR who told him the company met with his expectations. It was promised that his sales incentives will be made more mouth-watering. So he has to toil to make what his subordinates make as statutory pay.

Learning point: do a little investigation before you undervalue yourself.

Note: this story could have been a reversal whereby my friend lost the job becuase he insisted on a certain figure which the company couldn't afford.


You have said it all. I have once been in such situation, I was asked the same question during an interview and my answer was straight forward. I told the interviewer that i would like to earn according to the salary structure related to my position (Software Developer). They were not satisfied, hence i had to give a range of figures (400 000 - 500 000 in conversion to Naira). The company later agreed to pay close to N400 000.

While on the job, I assume most of my colleagues are earning far more than i am earning - We are not allowed to discuss our salary (Company Policy) - but i never bothered. That said, money should not be your priority for now, focus on the job and continue to acquire more experience. And most importantly, add values to the organisation ).

MY CANDID ADVISE IS TO SECURE THE JOB FIRST, IRRESPECTIVE OF THE SALARY. YOU TEND TO GAIN MORE EXPERIENCE THAT WILL BOOST YOUR PAY IN SUBSEQUENT JOB.

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Re: Need Advice On Salary At My New Job by iswallker(m): 7:44am On Jun 23, 2018
fruqy:
Hello everyone.

Please I need your advice. This is my first post on nairaland

I was interviewed for a job at a hotel and when it came to the "How much do you expect us to pay you?" question, I didn't know what to tell them.
Its a 5 star hotel and I will be overseeing their Information Technology Department. I will be in charge of their website, social media accounts, hotel management system and also be in charge of their software and hardware maintenance. They have two branches and I will be overseeing both of them.

I was thinking 200k but I don't know if it's too small or too much.

I need your advice guys.

I have to get back to them tomorrow.

Thank you.


Just quote a general overseers salary...
Re: Need Advice On Salary At My New Job by Geesaintagape: 7:55am On Jun 23, 2018
This is sign of stingy company. How can you play 5 persons roles while there are teaming unemployed qualified youth seeking job.
Many hotel i know pay about 50k per your listed position @ a start so therefore that your hotel wants to cut cost by asking just you to do all. I greet you good morning in the evening bros
Re: Need Advice On Salary At My New Job by gbengs247: 8:21am On Jun 23, 2018
I don't seems to understand the reason for this question o. Is it that you told them you wanted to ask friends on Nairaland before you give an answer or what?

At least you must have given them a fee when they asked you to name your price.

Why not tell us what exactly you told them, so we can learn from your mistakes or good decision.

Wish you all the best bro.
Re: Need Advice On Salary At My New Job by fruqy(m): 8:37am On Jun 23, 2018
gbengs247:
I don't seems to understand the reason for this question o. Is it that you told them you wanted to ask friends on Nairaland before you give an answer or what?

At least you must have given them a fee when they asked you to name your price.

Why not tell us what exactly you told them, so we can learn from your mistakes or good decision.

Wish you all the best bro.

That is exactly how it is bro. I told them to pay me according to their salary structure or tell me what they think my services are worth but they said I have to think of sth and get back to them. That's all there is.
Re: Need Advice On Salary At My New Job by Nobody: 10:57am On Jun 23, 2018
Samogbo1:
Since U said it's a 5-star hotel, I will advise U go with the 200k as u planned.


...I would also urge U to get a spy device (spy car key camera, spy pen camera, spy clothe button camera etc), U'll be needing either of those gadgets to enhance Ur professionalism cos ur duty will involve monitoring and I.T security alertness. U'll appreciate my exposure in the long run...

hala me... 0,9,0,9,9,3,7,0,7,5,3 or samogbo4real@gmail.com


To spy on who?

For him to install them in the hotel?

Bros, the guy never start the work sef. Im just dey commot for interview and you wan sack am.

O di egwu.
Re: Need Advice On Salary At My New Job by Justbeingreal(m): 11:06am On Jun 23, 2018
deepwater:


5 Star, they can afford far more than that bro
I see!
Re: Need Advice On Salary At My New Job by totalhouse(m): 11:25am On Jun 23, 2018
fruqy:


I actually did, they told me that I have to talk first which made it complicated.
then ask for a pay of about #300k. They will ask if that is your final offer, then ask them how much are they offering, you can reach a compromise on how much they want to offer you.
Re: Need Advice On Salary At My New Job by Gamesmart: 12:10pm On Jun 23, 2018
MaziOmenuko:
My friend went for an interview as a regional sales manager. When he was asked how much he wants, he said N250k per month; he was receiving N150k where he was working. He was employed by the new company with a salary of N250k. He resumed and realized that the zonal sales managers reporting to him were pocketing N300k and that his position is valued at N400k (that was what other regional zone managers were warning).

Long story short, he later met with the HR who told him the company met with his expectations. It was promised that his sales incentives will be made more mouth-watering. So he has to toil to make what his subordinates make as statutory pay.

Learning point: do a little investigation before you undervalue yourself.

Note: this story could have been a reversal whereby my friend lost the job becuase he insisted on a certain figure which the company couldn't afford.

He should have resigned.
Re: Need Advice On Salary At My New Job by gbengs247: 1:32pm On Jun 23, 2018
fruqy:


That is exactly how it is bro. I told them to pay me according to their salary structure or tell me what they think my services are worth but they said I have to think of sth and get back to them. That's all there is.
If that is the case, let me tell you some of the things you need to consider before you get back to them.

1. Consider your present take home and other benefits you are entitled to, make sure you are not getting less.

2. Do your Tax negotiations well. Ask them if the figure they expect you say is after tax or before tax(if before tax, charge 15% more than what you have in mind)

3. Ask them to tell you the type of bonuses and allowances they have e.g leave allowance, 13th month, Christmas bonus, productive, housing allowance, pension, gratuity etc)

4. Do they have HMO (Your Health is key)

5. Compare distance from your house. (Calculate well so you don't spend all your salary on Transport)

6. Consider your personal and career growth.

7. Consider annual leave (will they give you the opportunity to go on leave)

8. Consider freedom and work durations ( work environment, who you report to, How many days you work per week, when you resume and close etc)

9. Consider the how many people you will be working with (You need at least 2 people to help you with the job description you stated above)

Note: If you can get at least 7 positive responses out of the 10 listed above, then 200k is not bad, if less than 7 please charge more

Note: You might not need all the above if you don't have a job at the moment and you are in need of one so badly
Re: Need Advice On Salary At My New Job by romme2u: 7:01pm On Jun 23, 2018
Godwin616:
You are right. You spoke my mind. How can you be a senior IT personnel and you dont know your worth. Are you a starter? How many years of professional experience do you have and how much were you earning in your previous job. These are some of the factors to consider

smiley

Don't mind that ode

They are the people rubbishing and belittling the IT profession.

How can you be qualified to take charge of all IT infrastructure in a five star hotel (Enterprise Level) without knowledge of industry salary scale.

A five star hotel that have money to invest in website development and maintenance, maintain social media presence, hotel management system and probably CCTV systems as well as Wifi network plus all the workstations that are deployed for their staff should be able to afford 500k to 800k for an IT manager role.

Opportunist everywhere gunning for position far above their experience because of nepotism

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