Pre-colonial African civilizations believed the earth was flat. That an iron dome covered it, and that outside the dome was water. Essentially, the earth was a domed habitat sitting in a giant sea.

Incredibly, the modern-day Flat Earth Society envisions the earth in the exact same way. And they have copious amounts of evidence supporting their position. Bear in mind that there has never been a single genuine picture of the earth showed to us by NASA or any other space agency. All pics we have seen have been composite/computer generated images.

Were our ancestors right?

Intriguingly, the Genesis account of the earth's creation seems to be describing a sea-surrounded Flat Earth as well. It talks about "separating the waters from the waters", and refers to a "firmament" or dome, covering the earth.

Rossikki:
Precolonial African civilizations believed the earth was flat. That an iron dome covered it, and that outside the dome was water. Essentially, the earth was a domed habitat sitting at the bottom of a giant sea.

Incredibly, the modern-day Flat Earth Society envisions the earth in the exact same way. And they have copious amounts of evidence supporting their position. Bear in mind that there has never been a single genuine picture of the earth showed to us by NASA or any other space agency. All pics we have seen have been composite/computer generated images.

Were our ancestors right?

Intriguingly, the Genesis account of the earth's creation seems to be describing a sea-surrounded Flat Earth as well. It talks about "separating the waters from the waters", and refers to a "firmament" or dome, covering the earth.

God mentioned that the Earth was suspended on nothing, according to the Bible . You dont seem to Read your Bible properly as its historical account is unparalleled. Then you errred by generalization of ‘our ancestors', because Yoruba's IFA creation account never mentioned that the Earth was flat.

Olu317:
God mentioned that the Earth was suspended on nothing, according to the Bible . You dont seem to Read your Bible properly as its historical account is unparalleled. Then you errred by generalization of ‘our ancestors', because Yoruba's IFA creation account never mentioned that the Earth was flat.

"Suspended on nothing" could mean it's just floating inside a huge ocean.

IFA creation accounts never mentioned the Earth was a globe either. I think the people back then would have found it odd to have to mention that the earth was flat, since that was what everyone believed. Trust me, your ancestors did not think the earth was a globe.

One interesting bit of evidence of a flat earth is that aeroplanes FLY STRAIGHT, no matter how far their destination. If the earth was a globe, they would have to constantly dip their noses downward during flight, to allow for the earth's curvature, and avoid veering off into 'outer space'.

But this never happens! They always fly straight!

Railway tracks are always built and laid straight, as though the earth were flat. If the earth was a globe, tracks would be built, and laid to align with the earth's curvature. Again, never happens. Because the earth is.....flat. Our ancestors were right.

one Question what kind of weed are you smoking I for like join. it's not only African ancestors that believed the earth was flat everyone did and dats when Christopher Columbus comes to save us from our stupidity.

Sinistami:
one Question what kind of weed are you smoking I for like join. it's not only African ancestors that believed the earth was flat everyone did and dats when Christopher Columbus comes to save us from our stupidity.

This thread is not for closed-minded, ignorant little kids. If you want to join this discussion, provide something of value, ie solid evidence to back your position. You clearly have not researched the topic, and are only basing your views on what you were taught from childhood. This thread goes way beyond the propagation of hand-me-down theories and indoctrination perpetuated by 'authorities'. Here, you think, research, and reason for yourself.

Now, what evidence do you have of a spherical earth? If you cannot provide any, there's the door.

Rossikki:
Precolonial African civilizations believed the earth was flat. That an iron dome covered it, and that outside the dome was water. Essentially, the earth was a domed habitat sitting at the bottom of a giant sea.

Incredibly, the modern-day Flat Earth Society envisions the earth in the exact same way. And they have copious amounts of evidence supporting their position. Bear in mind that there has never been a single genuine picture of the earth showed to us by NASA or any other space agency. All pics we have seen have been composite/computer generated images.

Were our ancestors right?

Intriguingly, the Genesis account of the earth's creation seems to be describing a sea-surrounded Flat Earth as well. It talks about "separating the waters from the waters", and refers to a "firmament" or dome, covering the earth.

bi osupa l'aye. The earth is like the moon. Igba la fin soju aye. Igba ntokasi aye. the calabash is a representation of the earth

Yoruba tradition is clear, the earth is spherical

Rossikki:
One interesting bit of evidence of a flat earth is that aeroplanes FLY STRAIGHT, no matter how far their destination. If the earth was a globe, they would have to constantly dip their noses downward during flight, to allow for the earth's curvature, and avoid veering off into space.

But this never happens! They always fly straight!

Railway tracks are always built and laid straight, as though the earth was flat. If the earth was a globe, tracks would be built, and laid to align with the earth's curvature. Again, never happens. Because the earth is.....flat. Our ancestors were right.

Hahahaha

Rossikki:


"Suspended on nothing" could mean it's just floating inside a huge ocean.

IFA creation accounts never mentioned the Earth was a globe either. I think the people back then would have found it odd to have to mention that the earth was flat, since that was what everyone believed. Trust me, your ancestors did not think the earth was a globe.

Knowledge you seek,but wisdom you will find in Yoruba's cosmology.

The Bible says‘,he stretcheth the north on empty space ,and hangeth the earth on nothing'. This is not about probability or assumption but affirming to the strength of God,according to the Bible.
Likewise Yoruba cosmology acknowledged that the earth is pictured as being round–spherical and not flat,as you seem to think of it out of your imagination.Perhaps, you meant some of the ancient Caucasians thought so ,according to their account. In fact, Greek myth claimed the earth was suspended by one of their gods known as Atlas with his hands on his shoulder after he lost one of the war to Zeus . In Yoruba land, there is a tradition of worshiping Èlèdumarè(God),that involves the use of Éfún or èerù, to form a circle,(which symbolise eternity) in an open field with other ritual offering like obi(kolanut), adiyé/adié funfun (white cockrel ) to pray to God for the Ooni/other Kings and their people.

OlaoChi:
bi osupa l'aye. The earth is like the moon. Igba la fin soju aye. Igba ntokasi aye. the calabash is a representation of the earth

Yoruba tradition is clear, the earth is spherical

If the calabash is representative of the earth how does that mean ''spherical''? Is a calabash a sphere? Nope. A calabash is EXACTLY what a flat earth covered by a dome, or firmament, looks like.

...........................[img]https://flatearthscienceandbible.files./2016/03/img_0039-6.jpg[/img]

Outside the dome is water. That is what the bible means by ''separating the waters from the waters''. If the earth was a sphere sitting in 'outer space', that statement would make no sense.

Also, there is no evidence that the moon is a sphere. That something looks round from a distance does not mean it is a sphere or globe. It could be a flat, round disc.

lovelygurl:



Hahahaha

What's so funny?

Rossikki:


If the calabash is representative of the earth how does that mean ''spherical''? Is a calabash a sphere? Nope. A calabash is EXACTLY what a flat earth covered by a dome, or firmament, looks like.

...........................[img]https://flatearthscienceandbible.files./2016/03/img_0039-6.jpg[/img]

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Stop being ridiculous. A calabash is not covered by another calabash in its default state as a calabash.

Even the moon and the sun are flat discs, according to new research, and are nowhere near as far away from Earth as is claimed by mainstream science.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/898244/supermoon-2018-nasa-lie-flat-moon-proof-flat-earth-theory

Olu317:


Knowledge you seek,but wisdom you will find in Yoruba's cosmology.

The Bible says‘,he stretcheth the north on empty space ,and hangeth the earth on nothing'. This is not about probability or assumption but affirming to the strength of God,according to the Bible.
Likewise Yoruba cosmology acknowledged that the earth is pictured as being round–spherical and not flat,as you seem to think of it out of your imagination.Perhaps, you meant some of the ancient Caucasians thought so ,according to their account. In fact, Greek myth claimed the earth was suspended by one of their gods known as Atlas with his hands on his shoulder after he lost one of the war to Zeus . In Yoruba land, there is a tradition of worshiping Èlèdumarè(God),that involves the use of Éfún or èerù, to form a circle,(which symbolise eternity) in an open field with other ritual offering like obi(kolanut), adiyé/adié funfun (white cockrel ) to pray to God for the Ooni/other Kings and their people.

It is YOU who lacks understanding. That something is described as being round or a 'circle' does NOT mean it is a sphere. A flat disc can be round and circular. ''Stretching the north on empty space'' as quoted in the book of Job, means the north within the earth land/atmosphere and within the empty space created by the dome which covers the earth, and separates it from the waters above it.

''Hanging the earth upon nothing'' does not imply the earth is in ''outer space''. It could be in the middle of a vast ocean, and thus is ''hanging on nothing''.

Job 37:18 says: ''Can you, like him, spread out the skies, hard as a cast metal mirror?' - referring to the dome.

Rossikki:


It is YOU who lacks understanding. That something is described as being round or a 'circle' does NOT mean it is a sphere. A flat disc can be round and circular. ''Stretching the north on empty space'' as quoted in the book of Job, means the north within the earth land/atmosphere and within the empty space created by the dome which covers the earth, and separates it from the waters above it.

''Hanging the earth upon nothing'' does not imply the earth is in ''outer space''. It could be in the middle of a vast ocean, and thus is ''hanging on nothing''.

Job 37:18 says: ''Can you, like him, spread out the skies, hard as a cast metal mirror?' - referring to the dome.

Oh k twisting teacher, I can say see your knowledge. Distort simple English at your own peril. I have said it as written in the Bible and It does not concern me if you go ahead and rephrase it to sooth your ego. All writers of Bible said the same thing about hanging on nothing ,which simply mean ‘suspended on air without any support in whatsoever ', but here you are using your own rhetoric interpretation. So, in your wildest dream, the earth will be inside the ‘vast ocean?' I mock you.


Quote me again at your own detriment.

Rossikki:
Stop being ridiculous. A calabash is not covered by another calabash in its default state as a calabash.

. That is Ìgba in Yoruba.

End of discussion

Olu317:
Oh k twisting teacher, I can say see your knowledge. Distort simple English at your own peril. I have said it as written in the Bible and It does not concern me if you go ahead and rephrase it to sooth your ego. All writers of Bible said the same thing about hanging on nothing ,which simply mean ‘suspended on air without any support in whatsoever ', but here you are using your own rhetoric interpretation. So, in your wildest dream, the earth will be inside the ‘vast ocean?' I mock you.


Quote me again at your own detriment.

Dude, you know NOTHING about Yoruba ancient beliefs. Colonialism has distorted your understanding. They believed the earth was FLAT. If you don't know, go and ask your elders. It's not about coming here to form Mr Knowledge. Small boy. ''Hanging the Earth upon nothing'' does NOT mean ''suspended in the air''. Stop using modern western interpretation of phenomena to form your ideas.

Tell me. Why does a plane fly STRAIGHT and FLAT no matter how far it goes?

Why does it not constantly dip its nose downward to avoid veering off into ''space''?

Why does it maintain a constant altitude THROUGHOUT its flight?

Can you use your brain to think, leave ancient beliefs aside?

lovelygurl:



Hahahaha

What's so funny? He stated a fact which is true.

LastDays777:


What's so funny? He stated a fact which is true.

It is extremely funny because the op seem lost in comparative analysis of the biblical interpretation, science and tradition .Perhaps, a neophyte with a wild imagination of composition of the Planet Earth.

Have you evern seen a route map of a plane ?

For instance, a typical Boeing 747 burns over 10 tonnes of fuel every hour and much more when it is climbing up to altitude. That equates to about 4 litres per second. So you would think that they would FLY IN PERFECT STRAIGHT LINE FROM THE DEPARTURE AIRPORT to the DESTINATION AIRPORT IN ORDER to minimise fuel burn. But if you have ever looked at one of the MAP DISPLAY ON BOARD you may have seen that the ROUTE is not STRAIGHT . One of the reason, plane don't fly straight is:

Route networks:-
Aircraft used to fly by reference to ground features – rivers, roads, railways, or coastlines. With the advent of radio beacons, aircraft then flew between these beacons and a system of ‘highways in the sky’ was developed. Even though most aircraft can now navigate remarkably accurately without having to track between radio beacons, this route network persists, even though most of the ‘waypoints’ – the nodes of the route network – are not associated with physical beacons.

Aeroplanes don't fly straight in whatsoever way which is unexplainable to man for now but with some claimed reasons,which I mentioned one .... If you are doubtful,google it or visit any plane control centers to verify. Screenshot to show as an example is attached.

Olu317:

It is extremely funny because the op seem lost in comparative analysis of the biblical interpretation, science and tradition .Perhaps, a neophyte with a wild imagination of composition of the Planet Earth.

Have you evern seen a route map of a plane ?

For instance, a typical Boeing 747 burns over 10 tonnes of fuel every hour and much more when it is climbing up to altitude. That equates to about 4 litres per second. So you would think that they would FLY IN PERFECT STRAIGHT LINE FROM THE DEPARTURE AIRPORT to the DESTINATION AIRPORT IN ORDER to minimise fuel burn. But if you have ever looked at one of the MAP DISPLAY ON BOARD you may have seen that the ROUTE is not STRAIGHT . One of the reason, plane don't fly straight is:

Route networks:-
Aircraft used to fly by reference to ground features – rivers, roads, railways, or coastlines. With the advent of radio beacons, aircraft then flew between these beacons and a system of ‘highways in the sky’ was developed. Even though most aircraft can now navigate remarkably accurately without having to track between radio beacons, this route network persists, even though most of the ‘waypoints’ – the nodes of the route network – are not associated with physical beacons.

Aeroplanes don't fly straight in whatsoever way which is unexplainable to man for now but with some claimed reasons,which I mentioned one .... If you are doubtful,google it or visit any plane control centers to verify. Screenshot to show as an example is attached.

Olu Olu. You forgot to put where you copied it from

http://www.eurocontrol.int/news/why-aircraft-dont-always-fly-straight-lines

Of course there is an explanation to everything including lies.

One pilot once said they don't calculate any curvature when flying. Why?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwZXMVqbfGc

This is how they indoctrinate us with evolution in school, we believe it and don't question everything.

LastDays777:


Olu Olu. You forgot to put where you copied it from

http://www.eurocontrol.int/news/why-aircraft-dont-always-fly-straight-lines

Of course there is an explanation to everything including lies.

One pilot once said they don't calculate any curvature when flying. Why?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwZXMVqbfGc

This is how they indoctrinate us with evolution in school, we believe it and don't question everything.

Where it is copied isn't important as the information itself. Beside, I have given a leeway to it. Apart from eurocontrol website,there are other sites that can explain it . Perhaps, an aeronautic engineer (scientist) will explain it better and not a pilot per see. And I am tempted to doubt the so called pilot, you claimed to categorically say they dont ‘calculate', because, such will be suicidal . The pilots know the route,just as drivers know their driveway lanes. If you infer on ‘irrational thinking,which drive to innovation, then it ought be given such opportunity on what probably haven't been given such thought on, but,on planes invention,science at it full pedigree, had been dealt with and still dealing with it by he Caucasian, different people of African descent,Asian people of different descent, after it has been have taken over from the founders of it,who naturally were the ancient dark skin race of Meroe/Egypt/Cush etc . To be honest with you,there are uncountable undisclosed and undiscovered mysteries that ought be explored. On Yoruba tradition, mentioned the division of the earth in four edge of the world, with their understanding of the world .Furthermore, for everything that has to do with the world, from Yoruba divinity knowledge,it is described in circle. May be the op,hasnt knowledge of it . But for the readers ,and contributors like you and I need inform properly for knowledge acquisition sake.

LastDays777:


Olu Olu. You forgot to put where you copied it from

http://www.eurocontrol.int/news/why-aircraft-dont-always-fly-straight-lines

Of course there is an explanation to everything including lies.

One pilot once said they don't calculate any curvature when flying. Why?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwZXMVqbfGc

This is how they indoctrinate us with evolution in school, we believe it and don't question everything.

Exactly. They always use these long, convoluted explanations to try to explain the impossible. Any honest pilot you ask will tell you straight away that they ALWAYS fly at a constant altitude when flying from point a to point b. This guy is using an image of a plane lifting off and then later descending at the end of the flight to show that planes 'do not' fly straight, and is hoping we are too stupid to see his trick.

Olu317:

It is extremely funny because the op seem lost in comparative analysis of the biblical interpretation, science and tradition .Perhaps, a neophyte with a wild imagination of composition of the Planet Earth.

Have you evern seen a route map of a plane ?

For instance, a typical Boeing 747 burns over 10 tonnes of fuel every hour and much more when it is climbing up to altitude. That equates to about 4 litres per second. So you would think that they would FLY IN PERFECT STRAIGHT LINE FROM THE DEPARTURE AIRPORT to the DESTINATION AIRPORT IN ORDER to minimise fuel burn. But if you have ever looked at one of the MAP DISPLAY ON BOARD you may have seen that the ROUTE is not STRAIGHT . One of the reason, plane don't fly straight is:

Route networks:-
Aircraft used to fly by reference to ground features – rivers, roads, railways, or coastlines. With the advent of radio beacons, aircraft then flew between these beacons and a system of ‘highways in the sky’ was developed. Even though most aircraft can now navigate remarkably accurately without having to track between radio beacons, this route network persists, even though most of the ‘waypoints’ – the nodes of the route network – are not associated with physical beacons.

Aeroplanes don't fly straight in whatsoever way which is unexplainable to man for now but with some claimed reasons,which I mentioned one .... If you are doubtful,google it or visit any plane control centers to verify. Screenshot to show as an example is attached.

This a very deceptive drawing. A plane reaches its altitude within a few minutes of take off and remains constant throughout the flight until it approaches its destination.

Olu317:
Where it is copied isn't important as the information itself. Beside, I have given a leeway to it. Apart from eurocontrol website,there are other sites that can explain it . Perhaps, an aeronautic engineer (scientist) will explain it better and not a pilot per see. And I am tempted to doubt the so called pilot, you claimed to categorically say they dont ‘calculate', because, such will be suicidal . The pilots know the route,just as drivers know their driveway lanes. If you infer on ‘irrational thinking,which drive to innovation, then it ought be given such opportunity on what probably haven't been given such thought on, but,on planes invention,science at it full pedigree, had been dealt with and still dealing with it by he Caucasian, different people of African descent,Asian people of different descent, after it has been have taken over from the founders of it,who naturally were the ancient dark skin race of Meroe/Egypt/Cush etc . To be honest with you,there are uncountable undisclosed and undiscovered mysteries that ought be explored. On Yoruba tradition, mentioned the division of the earth in four edge of the world, with their understanding of the world .Furthermore, for everything that has to do with the world, from Yoruba divinity knowledge,it is described in circle. May be the op,hasnt knowledge of it . But for the readers ,and contributors like you and I need inform properly for knowledge acquisition sake.

A lot. That I have to agree with.

Rossikki:


Exactly. They always use these long, convoluted explanations to try to explain the impossible. Any honest pilot you ask will tell you straight away that they ALWAYS fly at a constant altitude when flying from point a to point b. This guy is using an image of a plane lifting off and then later descending at the end of the flight to show that planes 'do not' fly straight, and is hoping we are too stupid to see his trick.

Lol

Olu317:
On Yoruba tradition, mentioned the division of the earth in four edges of the world, with their understanding of the world.

Their ''understanding of the world'' is accurate. Just like their forbears who wrote the old testament.

“After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree.” (Revelation 7:1)

“the four quarters of the Earth” (Isaiah 11:12)

In addition, modern Flat Earth theory suggests that there are INDEED ''four corners'' to the circular earth made up of ice, that forms a protective barrier to the earth.



''Prof. Ferguson states .. that there are “four hundred passages in the Bible that condemn the Globe Theory, or the Flying Earth, and none sustain it. This map is the Bible Map of the world.” His map shows the Earth to be a flat, square disk that, judging by this less than perfect image, has a circular concavity almost touching the edges, out of the middle of which emerges a convexity with the North Pole at its (and the map’s) perfect centre.''

https://bigthink.com/strange-maps/437-oj-knows-the-four-corners-of-the-world

I believe the earth is FLAT. Please forget all those nonsense theories of Circumnavigation, apparent sun rise and setting, why ships disappear? ... Simple experiment, get a Camera with high Resolution lens. Go to a sea port, take a snapshot of a vessel leaving the banks, when it disappears on the horizon. Do me a favour and zoom in , you will find the vessel. Depending on your lens Rez output, you should be able to get a close up of the vessel afar!


What are we trying to prove?
PERSPECTIVE is the major player in this game!
Ancient history has it that the earth was flat and the earth was the center of the universe and everything revolved around US.

I Believe the Earth is FLAT, what I don't know for sure is why they LIED about it and Also the Apollo MOON Landing Scam in 1978.

IndustryEight:
I believe the earth is FLAT. Please forget all those nonsense theories of Circumnavigation, apparent sun rise and setting, why ships disappear? ... Simple experiment, get a Camera with high Resolution lens. Go to a sea port, take a snapshot of a vessel leaving the banks, when it disappears on the horizon. Do me a favour and zoom in , you will find the vessel. Depending on your lens Rez output, you should be able to get a close up of the vessel afar!


What are we trying to prove?
PERSPECTIVE is the major player in this game!
Ancient history has it that the earth was flat and the earth was the center of the universe and everything revolved around US.

I Believe the Earth is FLAT, what I don't know for sure is why they LIED about it

I think it was in order to discourage genuine beiief in the Creator. Claiming the earth was just one of billions of 'planets' floating out in 'space' effectively makes us insignificant. The 'powers that rule the earth' apparently saw it as being in their interest for us to see ourselves that way, and disconnect us from the Creator. They then created mainstream religions which merely propagate belief in God, as opposed to knowing...

Rossikki:


I think it was in order to discourage genuine beiief in the Creator. Claiming the earth was just one of billions of 'planets' floating out in 'space' effectively makes us insignificant. The 'powers that rule the earth' apparently saw it as being in their interest for us to see ourselves that way, and disconnect us from the Creator. They then created mainstream religions which merely propagate belief in God, as opposed to knowing...

When I got to know the deception behind religion eh! It felt like the worst heartbreak anyone could have, I was a devoted, tongue speaking Christian. Why all this deception I kept asking myself, but since these mainstream religion discourage Reason Logic and Ration. It was hard to get my hommies to think for themselves since someone else is using their brains for them.

Anyways, I pray these guys encounter the need to stop and think.

Igbo?

IndustryEight:



When I got to know the deception behind religion eh! It felt like the worst heartbreak anyone could have, I was a devoted, tongue speaking Christian. Why all this deception I kept asking myself, but since these mainstream religion discourage Reason Logic and Ration. It was hard to get my hommies to think for themselves since someone else is using their brains for them.

Anyways, I pray these guys encounter the need to stop and think.

This is why many of you would end up like F. Nietszche