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Re: Pray Always, Never Lose Hope In Prayer by Kobojunkie: 11:26pm On May 13, 2023 |
ElijahIme1992:1. I see! You blatantly reject God's very own Word and Truth which clearly reveals that He does not answer prayers of the unrighteous as they are made filthy by their sins. Recall what Jesus Christ Himself said of those who reject God's teachings--- John 14 vs 15 - 23. |
Re: Pray Always, Never Lose Hope In Prayer by ElijahIme1992(m): 11:32pm On May 13, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:no I don't reject God's word, the problem is u don't understand it, do you believe in the Holy Spirit? 2 Likes |
Re: Pray Always, Never Lose Hope In Prayer by Kobojunkie: 11:52pm On May 13, 2023 |
ElijahIme1992:1. So in Isaiah 59 where God made clear that your sins made filthy all that is you to Him, you think rather than God, I made that up? Where in Isaiah 64, it clearly shows that Isaiah in fact said that sin is what makes filthy your good works, you think that I made that up instead? 2. According to Jesus Christ, only those who are Holy are capable of having the Spirit of Truth aka the Holy Spirit - John 8 vs 31 - 36 & John 14 vs 15 - 23 - and since I am still seeking first the Kingdom of God(Holiness) and God's Righteousness....I am not there yet to have Him. So, do you also reject what Jesus Christ said in this case as well? |
Re: Pray Always, Never Lose Hope In Prayer by correctguy101(m): 9:09am On May 14, 2023 |
pressplay411: I don't know all what your point is about but first at the bolded... Show me a person who knows a lot, works hard, has connections everywhere and knows people of high caliber that is not successful... Unless, you're speaking of spiritual success, goan Siddon oga |
Re: Pray Always, Never Lose Hope In Prayer by pressplay411(m): 1:48pm On May 14, 2023 |
correctguy101: Learn to respect people's right to have an opinion, whether or not you agree with them. And if you have any disagreement, express it with some level of civility. You don't even know me, yet you chose to be rude. 1 Like |
Re: Pray Always, Never Lose Hope In Prayer by pressplay411(m): 5:49am On May 18, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Your liberty is in 2 Corinthians 3.14-18 "But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ. But even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart. Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of the Lord." All your questions will be answered the day you honour and receive Him. Grace and Peace be with you. 1 Like |
Re: Pray Always, Never Lose Hope In Prayer by delkuf(m): 7:29am On May 18, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:you term the holy spirit as eternal life. You don't know anything about the bible |
Re: Pray Always, Never Lose Hope In Prayer by delkuf(m): 7:36am On May 18, 2023 |
ElijahIme1992:kobojunkies don't understand the word of God and won't accept others teaching, even if what they are saying is true |
Re: Pray Always, Never Lose Hope In Prayer by Kobojunkie: 10:49am On May 18, 2023 |
delkuf:Actually I do know more than you ; that much I know. You see, in God's Old Covenant, the Spirit of Eternal Life is the Holy Spirit--- the Spirit earned by those who attain Holiness and this is the reason why John the Baptist, when He spoke of Jesus Christ, said Jesus Christ would come Baptizing with the Holy Spirit(the spirit of Eternal Life from John's perspective) and Fire(The Spirit of Truth).. Now switch over to the New Covenant, and you have that rather than the spirit of Eternal Life being the Holy Spirit, it is instead the Spirit of Truth that is granted those who have attained Holiness through the following of Jesus Christ- John 8 vs 31 - 38 & John 14 vs 15 - 26 - and this explains why Jesus Christ referred to the another(second) Helper, the Spirit of Truth, as the Holy Spirit in the context of John 14. |
Re: Pray Always, Never Lose Hope In Prayer by Kobojunkie: 4:09pm On May 19, 2023 |
delkuf:To those of the Old Covenant, the Spirit of Eternal Life, the one given by God only to those who attain Holiness through continuous submission and obedience of the Old Law is in fact the Holy Spirit. 15 “Today I have given you a choice between life and death, success and disaster.So, it should come as no surprise that John the Baptist referred to the Spirit of Eternal Life as the Holy Spirit in his message on Baptist onto Repentance — Matthew 3 vs 7 -11 & Mark 1 vs 1 -8 & Luke 3 vs 2 - 18 — whereas he uses "fire" to indicate the Second Helper, the Spirit of Truth. Jesus Christ, however, switched things up when by insisting in John 3 vs 1 - 21 that the Spirit of Eternal Life is, in fact, a gift given to all sinners who will believe in Him and become born-again— become citizens of the Kingdom of God. (The Spirit of Eternal Life is a passport required to enter into the Kingdom of God, and adoption of the New Covenant as the fountain of living water aka Constitution is equally required.) Then in John 14 vs 15 - 26, Jesus Christ revealed that Another helper — the Spirit of Truth— to, in fact, be the Holy Spirit to those who love Him — have attained Holiness through continuous submission and obedience of His teachings and commandments - John 8 vs 31 - 33. Basically, Jesus Christ revealed that the title "Holy Spirit" isn't the same across every one of God's Laws. So, you see, to those of the Old Law, the Holy Spirit is and remains the Spirit of Eternal Life, whereas for those who are of the New Covenant, the identity of the Holy Spirit is different — the Spirit of Truth. |
Re: Pray Always, Never Lose Hope In Prayer by Kobojunkie: 4:13pm On May 19, 2023 |
pressplay411:I take this to mean you don't have answers but your ego — which you refuse to let die— will not allow you admit this.. |
Re: Pray Always, Never Lose Hope In Prayer by pressplay411(m): 6:36am On May 20, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Good morning/day to you. Everyone has been answering you. In fact you have quoted the answers too. However, you cannot understand it except by the revelation/understanding given only by the Spirit of Understanding. Your pursuit for the Truth is good. Matthew 6:33 However, your heart/motive has to be right too. Matthew 5 (Beatitudes) will help you sir. 1 Like |
Re: Pray Always, Never Lose Hope In Prayer by Kobojunkie: 6:54am On May 20, 2023 |
pressplay411:1. So you are unable to directly broach the question asked. Claiming that by these off-point talks of yours, you have somehow answered the questions speaks only further solidifies my suspicions. You don't know nor have an answer to any of the questions asked. |
Re: Pray Always, Never Lose Hope In Prayer by delkuf(m): 10:22am On May 20, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:show me a verse in the old testament that says the holy spirit is eternal life |
Re: Pray Always, Never Lose Hope In Prayer by Kobojunkie: 1:16pm On May 20, 2023 |
delkuf:In Ezekiel 36 vs 25 - 28, God Himself explained that He would install 2 spirits inside of His people with the second one tasked with causing them to carefully obeying His commandments basically the seal of the Covenant. John the Baptist told you just that when He explained that Jesus Christ would come Baptizing with the Holy Spirit and Fire - Matthew 3 vs 7 - 11 & Mark 1 vs 1 - 8 & Luke 3 vs 2 - 18. Jesus Christ Himself explained that He is The Way(that John was tasked with preparing), the Truth and the Eternal Life in John 14 vs 6. While explaining to you what it means to be born-again, the only Spirit mentioned by Jesus Christ was the Spirit of Eternal Life and Jesus Christ did not apply the term Holy to Him. Then in John 14 vs 15 - 26, Jesus Christ Himself told you that the Holy Spirit which is the another Helper you will be given by the Father is the Spirit of Truth. |
Re: Pray Always, Never Lose Hope In Prayer by delkuf(m): 3:19pm On May 20, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:So Ezekiel 36:25-28 explained that the holy spirit is eternal life as you claim. You problem is that you know and you don't want to learn. How does Ezekiel 36 explain that the holy spirit is eternal life Eternal life is the life of God given to us by God that give is the ability to life like Christ here on earth. Read John 3:14-15. Am out now, I will be giving more bible verses. Eternal life is the life of God |
Re: Pray Always, Never Lose Hope In Prayer by Kobojunkie: 3:40pm On May 20, 2023 |
delkuf:1. I suggest you read the Scripture for yourself so you can better understand my previous post to you. 2. So, I should completely abandon my one and only Teacher, Jesus Christ - Matthew 23 vs 8 - 10 -, in order that I can instead learn from you, a one who is not even certain of the God he claims to believe in? |
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