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Re: Is There Any European Country As Ethnically Diverse As Nigeria? by horsepower101: 6:37pm On Jul 14, 2018
paramakina202:
Croatia in world cup final is just 4mln people.
Multiply the number of Croatians by 11 and you will get the population of igbos.

Btw I strongly believe that Igbos are actually the largest ethnic group in Nigeria

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Re: Is There Any European Country As Ethnically Diverse As Nigeria? by paramakina202: 7:32pm On Jul 14, 2018
horsepower101:

Multiply the number of Croatians by 11 and you will get the population of igbos.

Btw I strongly believe that Igbos are actually the largest ethnic group in Nigeria

Exactly.

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Re: Is There Any European Country As Ethnically Diverse As Nigeria? by speedyGonzales: 8:04pm On Jul 14, 2018
Patrioticooduan:
I did my research and I noticed Russia is the only European country with enormous diversity with 180 ethnic groups. Even at that the Russians - the largest ethnic group makeup 83 percent. Why can't we copy Europe? Why are African descendants this way? Why do we take simple things hard? In Germany, the germans makeup 92 percent of Germany's population while the remaining are minorities and immigrants( blacks, turkish e.t.c.).

checkout the Swiss, they are ethnically diverse for a European country and they have and interesting system of governance. I looked into this years back. The only positive for a united Nigeria is our large number, because that gives us economic potential. So restructuring will give that best of both worlds such that the state which are now somewhat ethnically homogeneous would be autonomous but have a larger market to sell our produce and buy from. This means people in Nigeria can get very rich just selling within the Nigerian Market but locally the state governments have more power over their economy and state that cannot compete are allowed to fail. But obviously Nigerians are still allowed to move across states and follow the economy. Obviously this still sacrifices homogeneity but each states gains access to a single market much like the EU.

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Re: Is There Any European Country As Ethnically Diverse As Nigeria? by Patrioticooduan: 8:24pm On Jul 14, 2018
speedyGonzales:


checkout the Swiss, they are ethnically diverse and they have and interesting system of governance. I looked into this years back. The only positive for a united Nigeria is our large number, because that gives us economic potential. So restructuring will give that best of both worlds such that the state which are now somewhat ethnically homogeneous would be autonomous but have a larger market to sell our produce and buy from. This means people in Nigeria can get very rich just selling within the Nigerian Market but locally the state governments have more power over their economy and state that cannot compete are allowed to fail. But obviously Nigerians are still allowed to move across states and follow the economy. Obviously this still sacrifices homogeneity but each states gains access to a single market much like the EU.
How many ethnic groups are in Switzerland? Four!!!
Namely: Germans 66%.
Italians, French and one other one that makeup just 1%. How can you compare that with Nigeria?
Forget it Mr. We are too diverse in Nigeria. This is what is killing UA and other African countries

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Re: Is There Any European Country As Ethnically Diverse As Nigeria? by AZeD1(m): 8:59pm On Jul 14, 2018
Patrioticooduan:

How many ethnic groups are in Switzerland? Four!!!
Namely: Germans 66%.
Italians, French and one other one that makeup just 1%. How can you compare that with Nigeria?
Forget it Mr. We are too diverse in Nigeria. This is what is killing UA and other African countries
Stop blaming diversity for the failures of Nigeria and Africans.

Oji Uzor Kalu is an Igbo man, and he ruled his state for eight years, was it diversity that caused him to loot his state?

Every state and local government has been ruled since 1999 by people from that state/ethnicity but we still haven't made progress and you want to blame ethnicity? Are you blaming diversity for Ibori's stealing? Or the one done by Gbenga Daniels?


America a country of immigrants ( which automatically means diversity) has managed to move forward but people who were born in a country are blaming something that happened decades before they were born as the reason for Nigeria's failure.

The post is part of the reason Nigeria doesn't work, we find things to blame rather than face the truth.

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Re: Is There Any European Country As Ethnically Diverse As Nigeria? by Patrioticooduan: 9:15pm On Jul 14, 2018
AZeD1:

Stop blaming diversity for the failures of Nigeria and Africans.

Oji Uzor Kalu is an Igbo man, and he ruled his state for eight years, was it diversity that caused him to loot his state?

Every state and local government has been ruled since 1999 by people from that state/ethnicity but we still haven't made progress and you want to blame ethnicity? Are you blaming diversity for Ibori's stealing? Or the one done by Gbenga Daniels?


America a country of immigrants ( which automatically means diversity) has managed to move forward but people who were born in a country are blaming something that happened decades before they were born as the reason for Nigeria's failure.

The post is part of the reason Nigeria doesn't work, we find things to blame rather than face the truth.

All what you wrote is bullshi.te. why do you guys mention america? Why not Europe or Asia that are occupied by indigenous tribes?

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Re: Is There Any European Country As Ethnically Diverse As Nigeria? by BreakupNigeria: 10:05pm On Jul 14, 2018
A very thought provoking thread. Good job op, Nigerians need such enlightenment to actually know that outright breakup or at least a very loose federation is what they need to be able to develop and evolve as a modern nation.

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Re: Is There Any European Country As Ethnically Diverse As Nigeria? by EternalTruths: 10:14pm On Jul 14, 2018
speedyGonzales:


checkout the Swiss, they are ethnically diverse and they have and interesting system of governance. I looked into this years back. The only positive for a united Nigeria is our large number, because that gives us economic potential. So restructuring will give that best of both worlds such that the state which are now somewhat ethnically homogeneous would be autonomous but have a larger market to sell our produce and buy from. This means people in Nigeria can get very rich just selling within the Nigerian Market but locally the state governments have more power over their economy and state that cannot compete are allowed to fail. But obviously Nigerians are still allowed to move across states and follow the economy. Obviously this still sacrifices homogeneity but each states gains access to a single market much like the EU.



Point of correction.


Switzerland is made up of 4 ethnic groups only.

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Re: Is There Any European Country As Ethnically Diverse As Nigeria? by BreakupNigeria: 10:20pm On Jul 14, 2018
Imagine the whole of Western Europe being lumped together as one country the same way the British imperialists lumped different diverse nations together and called them Nigeria.Wont the Germans, French, English, Dutch etc be at each other's jugular?? Why do they have so many countries with small population of less than 20 million and landmass that respects each other's ethnicity yet they gathered hundreds of distinct black ethnicities and dumped them together as one country?? Why didn't they respect our diversities just like them in Europe?? Or is it because we are blacks?? Or was it even on purpose to make sure we continue to fight each other perennially and remain backward instead of having no distractions that would make us focus on our individual well being and development?? If it's about market size, can't we have independent or pseudo independent nations that respects ethnicities while we still come together under one union without trade barriers like they have in EU?? Africans and blacks should think critically because if we continue like this we will end up killing each other.

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Re: Is There Any European Country As Ethnically Diverse As Nigeria? by EternalTruths: 10:24pm On Jul 14, 2018
BreakupNigeria:
Imagine the whole of Western Europe being lumped together as one country the same way the British imperialists lumped different diverse nations together and called them Nigeria.Wont the Germans, French, English, Dutch etc be at each other's jugular?? Why do they have so many countries with small population of less than 20 million and landmass that respects each other's ethnicity yet they gathered hundreds of distinct black ethnicities and dumped them together as one country?? Why didn't they respect our diversities just like them in Europe?? Or is it because we are blacks?? Or was it even on purpose to make sure we continue to fight each other perennially and remain backward instead of having no distractions that would make us focus on our individual well being and development?? If it's about market size, can't we have independent or pseudo independent nations that respects ethnicities while we still come together under one union without trade barriers like they have in EU?? Africans and blacks should think critically because if we continue like this we will end up killing each other.



AustroHungary empire broke up due to the diversity of that empire.

Likewise Ottoman empire.

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Re: Is There Any European Country As Ethnically Diverse As Nigeria? by pazienza(m): 10:55pm On Jul 14, 2018
EternalTruths:




AustroHungary empire broke up due to the diversity of that empire.

Likewise Ottoman empire.

Also Czechoslovakia broke up because of irreconcilable differences between the two major ethnic groups there, namely : Czech and Slovakians.

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Re: Is There Any European Country As Ethnically Diverse As Nigeria? by pazienza(m): 10:59pm On Jul 14, 2018
Today, Croatia had surpassed all that Yugoslavia had ever achieved in football .

Let's not forget that not long ago, Croatia was part of the "tower of Babel" called Yugoslavia, where the Serbians reigned with iron fist and forced everyone else to fall in line.

Croatians fought and broke away from Yugoslavia. Yugoslavia disintegrated into many countries.

Today, Croatians are better off than Serbians in football atleast.

Sometimes, you need to get rid of certain groups, if you must soar.

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Re: Is There Any European Country As Ethnically Diverse As Nigeria? by EternalTruths: 11:05pm On Jul 14, 2018
pazienza:


Also Czechoslovakia broke up because of irreconcilable differences between the two major ethnic groups there, namely : Czech and Slovakians.


True

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Re: Is There Any European Country As Ethnically Diverse As Nigeria? by EternalTruths: 11:06pm On Jul 14, 2018
pazienza:
Today, Croatia had surpassed all that Yugoslavia had ever achieved in football .

Let's not forget that not long ago, Croatia was part of the "tower of Babel" called Yugoslavia, where the Serbians reigned with iron fist and forced everyone else to fall in line.

Croatians fought and broke away from Yugoslavia. Yugoslavia disintegrated into many countries.

Today, Croatians are better off than Serbians in football atleast.

Sometimes, you need to get rid of certain groups, if you must soar.


Igbos need to get separated from Hausa Fulani Yoruba people so as to achieve progress at lightening speed

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Re: Is There Any European Country As Ethnically Diverse As Nigeria? by pazienza(m): 11:09pm On Jul 14, 2018
EternalTruths:



Igbos need to get separated from Hausa Fulani Yoruba people so as to achieve progress at lightening speed

Also from irreconcilable groups down South. If you ask me.

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Re: Is There Any European Country As Ethnically Diverse As Nigeria? by AZeD1(m): 11:21pm On Jul 14, 2018
Patrioticooduan:

All what you wrote is bullshi.te. why do you guys mention america? Why not Europe or Asia that are occupied by indigenous tribes?
People mention America because it throws your excuse of diversity away.
London is probably the most multicultural city in the world and they are doing well.

Is it diversity that makes governors loot their state?
Re: Is There Any European Country As Ethnically Diverse As Nigeria? by AZeD1(m): 11:29pm On Jul 14, 2018
EternalTruths:



Igbos need to get separated from Hausa Fulani Yoruba people so as to achieve progress at lightening speed
Since 1999, Igbo's have been ruling their States and they've not gone far. I can't remember any Fulani person telling Orji Uzor Kalu, Theodore Orji, Ohakim, Nwobodo and others to loot their state.
If the South East governors had built 1 good hospital per year, the South East would by today have 85 good hospitals by today.

Stop blaming diversity for the greed of Nigerians.
Re: Is There Any European Country As Ethnically Diverse As Nigeria? by pazienza(m): 11:42pm On Jul 14, 2018
AZeD1:

Since 1999, Igbo's have been ruling their States and they've not gone far. I can't remember any Fulani person telling Orji Uzor Kalu, Theodore Orji, Ohakim, Nwobodo and others to loot their state.
If the South East governors had built 1 good hospital per year, the South East would by today have 85 good hospitals by today.

Stop blaming diversity for the greed of Nigerians.

I bet Serbs would have been telling Croatians same thing by now, if they are stuck and failing together in Yugoslavia.

Orji Uzor Kalu, Ohakim, Nwobodo, etc.
They are all products of the Nigerian system.

There is no telling how they could have performed, once the Abuja protection and connection are severed.

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Re: Is There Any European Country As Ethnically Diverse As Nigeria? by pazienza(m): 11:48pm On Jul 14, 2018
AZeD1:

People mention America because it throws your excuse of diversity away.
London is probably the most multicultural city in the world and they are doing well.

Is it diversity that makes governors loot their state?

This is a ridiculous post.

America is a migrant country, and UK is still controlled by the indigenous English, Scottish, Wales and Irish, who constitute the vast majority, in their respective territories. London as a City, doesn't exist in isolation.

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Re: Is There Any European Country As Ethnically Diverse As Nigeria? by PDJT: 11:59pm On Jul 14, 2018
@AZeD1

-Diversity doesn’t really do anything for you. London, for instance, didn’t become a great city due to “diversity”. You’re talking about a city, whose foundation was laid by the Romans when they invaded England in 55 B.C and colonized the people.

-Visit London today and see what their diversity experiment of just a few decade has led to.

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Re: Is There Any European Country As Ethnically Diverse As Nigeria? by AZeD1(m): 12:18am On Jul 15, 2018
pazienza:


I bet Serbs would have been telling Croatians same thing by now, if they are stuck and failing together in Yugoslavia.

Orji Uzor Kalu, Ohakim, Nwobodo, etc.
They are all products of the Nigerian system.

There is no telling how they could have performed, once the Abuja protection and connection are severed.
Nobody in Abuja told them to steal, they did it because of greed.

Blaming diversity for Nigeria's problem is like saying a guy steals his father because they leave diverse Street.

Does that make sense to you?
Re: Is There Any European Country As Ethnically Diverse As Nigeria? by pazienza(m): 2:14am On Jul 15, 2018
AZeD1:

Nobody in Abuja told them to steal, they did it because of greed.

Blaming diversity for Nigeria's problem is like saying a guy steals his father because they leave diverse Street.

Does that make sense to you?

They stole because of the Nigerian system that made it easy for them to do so, and they are walking free because of Nigerian judicial system.
Its all about Nigeria.

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Re: Is There Any European Country As Ethnically Diverse As Nigeria? by Patrioticooduan: 7:28am On Jul 15, 2018
AZeD1:

People mention America because it throws your excuse of diversity away.
London is probably the most multicultural city in the world and they are doing well.

Is it diversity that makes governors loot their state?
You don't know anything guy

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Re: Is There Any European Country As Ethnically Diverse As Nigeria? by Patrioticooduan: 7:29am On Jul 15, 2018
pazienza:


They stole because of the Nigerian system that made it easy for them to do so, and they are walking free because of Nigerian judicial system.
Its all about Nigeria.
Exactly
Re: Is There Any European Country As Ethnically Diverse As Nigeria? by Abagworo(m): 8:02am On Jul 15, 2018
Patrioticooduan:

Croatia bacward? The country has a GDP per capita of 14,000 dollars. Croatia is a country that experienced war from 1991-1995. The country is just 23. Can you compare such country to Nigeria?
Also, you can't compare America to Croatia due to many reasons. America is a country of immigrants. Ethnicity is determined by skin color and not native language or culture. This is why we hear 'African Americans', 'European Americans' and so on. In indigenous continents like Europe, Asia, and Africa, it is not like this.

Simply put the US has worked because tribes and ethnic groups have been narrowed down to skin colour. Let us adopt it in Africa since we are basically 3 skin colours of black, brown and light skin.

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Re: Is There Any European Country As Ethnically Diverse As Nigeria? by Patrioticooduan: 8:06am On Jul 15, 2018
Abagworo:


Simply put the US has worked because tribes and ethnic groups have been narrowed down to skin colour. Let us adopt it in Africa since we are basically 3 skin colours of black, brown and light skin.
Sorry, we can't adopt that in Africa simply because we are a continent made up of indigenious tribes. We can only adopt that of Europe and Asia

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Re: Is There Any European Country As Ethnically Diverse As Nigeria? by Curlieweed: 8:31am On Jul 15, 2018
Abagworo:


Simply put the US has worked because tribes and ethnic groups have been narrowed down to skin colour. Let us adopt it in Africa since we are basically 3 skin colours of black, brown and light skin.

The USA has a dominant culture (White Anglo Saxon Protestant - WASP) around which all other sub-groups coalesced. Subsequent groups from the Irish Catholics down to present day immigrants have had to adapt and adopt key elements of the dominant WASP culture to gain acceptance and ultimately achieve success in the American society.

It wasn’t a superficial issue of skin color. It’s about ethnicity, culture and heritage. That is the reason we have nations in the first place; as a vehicle for preserving our heritage for future generations. If that was not the case, we might as well have one world government and abolish individual nation states.

Every successful country on the planet has a dominant culture except synthetic colonial shyteholes like Nigeria.

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Re: Is There Any European Country As Ethnically Diverse As Nigeria? by Amberon11: 8:36am On Jul 15, 2018
Worry about how you can survive without Niger Delta oil and nobody cares about your state of origin.
kutchs:

Hahahahaha
If you knew my state of origin, you wouldn't have written this. Anyway that isn't the issue being discussed so shift let me read comments from intelligent brains.
Re: Is There Any European Country As Ethnically Diverse As Nigeria? by Horus(m): 8:40am On Jul 15, 2018
China is composed of 56 ethnic groups
Re: Is There Any European Country As Ethnically Diverse As Nigeria? by EternalTruths: 9:16am On Jul 15, 2018
Horus:
China is composed of 56 ethnic groups

Han Chinese are 94% of the population.


Breakup Nigeria and see progress.

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Re: Is There Any European Country As Ethnically Diverse As Nigeria? by Patrioticooduan: 9:30am On Jul 15, 2018
Horus:
China is composed of 56 ethnic groups
Yes

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Re: Is There Any European Country As Ethnically Diverse As Nigeria? by yanmiri(f): 10:32am On Jul 15, 2018
Redoil:
If nigeria divide who will take care of the northerners

gringringrin

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