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Re: Are True Christians Suppose To Participate In Politics? by pointstores(m): 8:08am On Jul 22, 2018
No Christian can be like Jesus u can not measure any Christian person he does not have house ?is only work is the gospel ? He does not wear designer shirt ?he does not wear shoe? He has no wife? He has no child ? He has no church ?

David Solomon are kings joseph prime minister so any Christian can participate in politics if indeed is standing on a solid rock
Re: Are True Christians Suppose To Participate In Politics? by samueltee: 8:08am On Jul 22, 2018
What a question? Should have been Muslims and Traditionalists........




maximunimpact:
In Nigeria today the political climate is charged up ahead of the 2019 general elections and many aspirants are cashing in on voters across religious divides. Because i am a christian my opinion here will focus on what the bible says about worldly rulership and political power.

Why Did Jesus Not Get Involved in Politics?

PICTURE a scene from the year 32 C.E. It is late in the day. Jesus, the foretold Messiah, has already won great renown for healing the sick and even resurrecting the dead. Today, he has awed a crowd of thousands by performing powerful signs and by sharing teachings of God. Now he divides the hungry people into smaller groups. He prays to Jehovah and miraculously feeds them all. Then, to avoid waste, he collects the leftovers. How do the people react?​—John 6:1-13.

Well, after seeing Jesus’ miracles and his skillful leadership in managing the crowds and caring for their needs, the people conclude that Jesus would be a perfect king. (John 6:14) Their response is not surprising. Remember that they were desperate for a good, effective ruler; their beloved homeland was under the oppressive rule of a foreign power. So they put direct pressure on Jesus to join in the political process. With that background in mind, consider his reaction.

“Jesus, knowing they were about to come and seize him to make him king, withdrew again into the mountain all alone,” says John 6:15. Jesus’ stand could hardly have been more decisive. He resolutely refused to get involved in the politics of his homeland. His stand never changed. He said that his followers were to take the same position. (John 17:16) Why did he take this stand?

Why Did Jesus Choose Neutrality?

Jesus’ neutrality regarding the politics of this world was well-grounded in Scriptural principles. Consider just two.

“Man has dominated man to his injury.” (Ecclesiastes 8:9) That is how the Bible sums up the history of human rule. Remember, Jesus existed as a spirit in heaven long before he came to earth as a man. (John 17:5) He thus knew that man, however well-meaning, lacks the ability to care properly for the needs of billions of people; nor was he created by God to do so. (Jeremiah 10:23) Jesus knew that the solution to mankind’s problems lay elsewhere​—not in human governments.

“The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one.” (1 John 5:19) Do you find that statement startling? Many do. They think of sincere people who get involved in government because they want to make the world a better, safer place. Try as they might, though, even the most sincere rulers cannot overcome the influence of the one whom Jesus called “the ruler of this world.” (John 12:31; 14:30) That is why Jesus said to one worldly politician: “My kingdom is no part of this world.” (John 18:36) Jesus was the prospective King of God’s heavenly government. Had Jesus mixed in politics, he would have sacrificed his loyalty to his Father’s government.

Did Jesus teach, then, that his followers have no obligation to earthly governments? On the contrary, he taught them how to find the right balance between their responsibilities toward God and their obligations toward secular governments.

Jesus Respected Governmental Authority

While Jesus was teaching in the temple, opposers tried to put him in an impossible situation by asking whether people should pay taxes. If Jesus said no, his answer would have been deemed seditious and might even have fueled a spirit of revolt among downtrodden people eager to throw off the yoke of Roman oppression. But if Jesus said yes, many would have felt that he condoned the injustices they faced. Jesus’ answer was a masterpiece of balance. He said: “Pay back Caesar’s things to Caesar, but God’s things to God.” (Luke 20:21-25) So his followers have obligations to God and to Caesar​—that is, the secular government.

Governments maintain a measure of order. They rightly require citizens to be honest, to pay taxes, and to uphold the law. What example did Jesus set in paying “Caesar’s things to Caesar”? Jesus had been raised by parents who obeyed the law even when doing so was inconvenient. For example, Joseph and his pregnant wife, Mary, traveled some 90 miles [150 km] to Bethlehem when a Roman census decree required it. (Luke 2:1-5) Like them, Jesus was law-abiding, even paying taxes that he did not really owe. (Matthew 17:24-27) He also carefully refrained from overstepping his authority in secular matters. (Luke 12:13, 14) We might say that Jesus respected the machinery of government, although he refused to operate it. What, though, did Jesus mean about paying “God’s things to God”?

How Jesus Gave “God’s Things to God”

Jesus was once asked which was the greatest of all the laws God gave to man. Christ answered: “‘You must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind.’ This is the greatest and first commandment. The second, like it, is this, ‘You must love your neighbor as yourself.’” (Matthew 22:37-39) Jesus taught that when it comes to paying “God’s things to God,” the first thing we owe Him is love​—which involves our wholehearted, complete allegiance.

Can such love be divided? Can our loyalty be split, with some going to Jehovah God and his heavenly government and some going to an earthly government? Jesus himself stated the principle: “No one can slave for two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will stick to the one and despise the other.” (Matthew 6:24) Jesus was there speaking about dividing one’s loyalties between God and riches, but he clearly felt that the same principle applied to involvement in politics​—as did his followers in the first century.

The oldest available records show that Jesus’ followers in the ancient world did not take any active part in politics. Because they gave all their worship to the One whom Christ worshipped, they refused to pledge allegiance to Rome and its emperor, to take up military service, and to accept public office. They suffered all manner of hostility as a result. Their enemies sometimes accused them of hatred against mankind. Was that accusation a fair one?

True Christians Care About People

Recall Jesus’ reference to the second-greatest of God’s commandments​—“You must love your neighbor as yourself.” Clearly, no genuine follower of Christ is free to hate mankind. Jesus loved people, expended himself for them, and helped them even with the most practical and mundane problems.​—Mark 5:25-34; John 2:1-10.

For what, though, was Jesus primarily known? He was addressed, not as Healer, not as Feeder of Thousands, and not even as Resurrector of the Dead​—although he did fill all those remarkable roles. But people called him Teacher, and rightly so. (John 1:38; 13:13) Jesus explained that a major reason he came to the earth was to teach people about the Kingdom of God.​—Luke 4:43.

That is why Christ’s genuine followers devote themselves to the same work that occupied their Master when he walked the earth​—teaching people the good news about God’s Kingdom. Jesus Christ commissioned all true Christians to teach people worldwide about that subject. (Matthew 24:14; 28:19, 20) That incorruptible heavenly government will rule over all of God’s creation, according to the law of love. It will accomplish God’s will, even eliminating suffering and death. (Matthew 6:9, 10; Revelation 21:3, 4) No wonder the Bible refers to Christ’s message as “good news”!​—Luke 8:1.

So if you are looking for the genuine followers of Jesus Christ on earth today, how can you identify them? Will they be mixing in the politics of this world? Or are they making their main mission the same as that of Jesus​—preaching and teaching about the Kingdom of God?

SOURCE
Re: Are True Christians Suppose To Participate In Politics? by Dan1cole(m): 8:11am On Jul 22, 2018
'When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.' - Proverbs 29:2
Now, you tell me... Are Christians suppose to be involved in politics?! smiley
Re: Are True Christians Suppose To Participate In Politics? by naijanative: 8:13am On Jul 22, 2018
Maximunimpact , I guess 99.99% you're a Jehova's Witness. Imagine a Nigeria where Christians are not involved in politics or serve the government. Your president, senators everyone is either a Muslim or Traditional Religionist. Our laws will be like that of Saudi. You may no longer have the right to become a Christian. You'll be subjected to Sharia, Amadioha or Sango laws. In fact, the strongest, which is Islam will take pre-eminence. You won't enjoy any freedom you're enjoying today including coming to Nairaland to write this stuff.

Christians are called to be servants - so shine your light wherever you are whether in politics or otherwise. Remember, a civil servant is also working for the government just like the politician.
Re: Are True Christians Suppose To Participate In Politics? by Ellixlimswag(m): 8:16am On Jul 22, 2018
as Christians commentators no one backed his objection to the mod opinion with Bible verse. Christians indeed

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Re: Are True Christians Suppose To Participate In Politics? by Mikeross62: 8:17am On Jul 22, 2018
why not


its mikeross yuan/rmb exchange
Re: Are True Christians Suppose To Participate In Politics? by Hedvaforever: 8:23am On Jul 22, 2018
In the Old Testament, Joseph and Daniel served in civil government, exerting influence to further the flourishing of their nations

In the New Testament, Jesus engaged in holistic ministry, caring for the spiritual and physical needs of people. Feeding the hungry and healing diseases were an outworking and extension of the reconciliatory message of the gospel.


reasons Christians should care about politics
By David Closson

During the course of a presidential campaign, it is common to hear evangelicals, especially younger ones, quip, “I’m just not that interested in politics,” or, “Politics just aren’t my thing.” These dismissive remarks are often delivered with a veneer of piousness implying that political engagement is inherently defiled, occupying an arena unfit for those serious about the gospel. For those inundated with television ads, robo-calls, campaign mail and the overall negative tone of politics, this might be a tempting position to adopt. However, it is not a position Bible-believing, gospel-loving Christians can or should accept as congruent with Scripture.

The message of the gospel is that by grace through faith sinners can be reconciled with God (Ephesians 2:7-cool. This message transforms individuals and enables them to lead godly lives. Mandated by Scripture (Matthew 28:19-20), Christians are charged to share the good news and disciple others in faith.

The gospel is a holistic message with implications for all areas of life, including how Christians engage the political process. Here are four reasons Christians should care about politics:

The Christian worldview speaks to all areas of life.

A frequently raised objection against Christian engagement with politics is that anything besides explicit preaching and teaching of the Bible is a distraction from the mission of the church. However, this is a limited understanding of the kingdom of God and contrary to examples in Scripture.

The Christian worldview provides a comprehensive understanding of reality. It speaks to all areas of life, including political engagement. In fact, the Bible speaks about civil government and provides examples of faithful engagement.

In the Old Testament, Joseph and Daniel served in civil government, exerting influence to further the flourishing of their nations.

In the New Testament, Jesus engaged in holistic ministry, caring for the spiritual and physical needs of people. Feeding the hungry and healing diseases were an outworking and extension of the reconciliatory message of the gospel.

Paul also advocates this approach: “As we have opportunity, let us do good to everyone” (Galatians 6:10). And: “For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them” (Ephesians 2:10).

Engaging in “good works” should include participating in the political process because of the legitimate and significant role of government. The decisions made by government have a substantial impact on people and the way we interact with them. A Christian worldview should include a political theology that recognizes every area of life must be included in the “good works” of believers, especially politics, an area with significant real-life implications for people.

Government derives its authority from God to promote good and restrain evil. This mandate is expressly stated in Romans 13:1-7. Elsewhere, Paul urges that prayers be made “for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life” (1 Timothy 2:1-2). Paul understood the need for Christian participation in government.

Government plays a role in the work of God’s kingdom on earth. Good government encourages an environment conducive for people living peaceably, whereas bad government fosters unrest and instability. Because of sin, the legitimate institution of government has, at times, been used illegitimately throughout history. However, numerous examples persist of Christians reasserting their influence and redeeming government to promote good and restrain evil.

In How Christianity Changed the World, Alvin Schmidt documents Christian influence in government. Examples include outlawing infanticide, child abandonment and gladiatorial games in ancient Rome, ending the practice of human sacrifice among European cultures, banning pedophilia and polygamy, and prohibiting the burning of widows in India. William Wilberforce, a committed Christian, was the force behind the successful effort to abolish the slave trade in England. In the United States, two-thirds of abolitionists were Christian pastors. In the 1960’s, Martin Luther King Jr., a Christian pastor, helped lead the civil rights movement against racial segregation and discrimination.

Carl Henry rightfully stated that Christians should “work through civil authority for the advancement of justice and human good” to provide “critical illumination, personal example, and vocational leadership.” This has been the historic witness of Christians concerned about government promoting good and restraining evil.

Jeremiah 29:7 says: “But seek the welfare of the city where I have sent you into exile, and pray to the Lord on its behalf, for in its welfare you will find your welfare.” Referring to Babylon, the prophet recognized that secular government served a legitimate purpose in God’s plan for Israel. This is still true. Today, good governments promote literacy, advance just laws, provide religious liberty and allow churches to preach and teach. Good government can serve as a conduit for the furthering of the gospel and human flourishing.

Christian witness in the public square contributes transcendent values about moral and ethical issues. Christian withdrawal opens a moral vacuum susceptible to influences that pressure government to move outside the purview designated by God. Politics affects government, shapes society and influences culture. Because of what the Bible teaches and the inevitability of its effect on our culture, Christians must care about politics. We need men like David, Solomon in government


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Re: Are True Christians Suppose To Participate In Politics? by dingbang(m): 8:25am On Jul 22, 2018
Is prof yemi osinbade a Muslim? Its like your head is not korekt
Re: Are True Christians Suppose To Participate In Politics? by emmaitive(m): 8:25am On Jul 22, 2018
God will not allow true xtian to do politics
Re: Are True Christians Suppose To Participate In Politics? by daywatcher: 8:26am On Jul 22, 2018
Nigeria will develop faster if muslims and christians stay away from our leadership. Because we will have leaders that lead us based facts, new knowledge and evidence.
Re: Are True Christians Suppose To Participate In Politics? by maximunimpact(m): 8:27am On Jul 22, 2018
naijanative:
Maximunimpact , I guess 99.99% you're a Jehova's Witness. Imagine a Nigeria where Christians are not involved in politics or serve the government. Your president, senators everyone is either a Muslim or Traditional Religionist. Our laws will be like that of Saudi. You may no longer have the right to become a Christian. You'll be subjected to Sharia, Amadioha or Sango laws. In fact, the strongest, which is Islam will take pre-eminence. You won't enjoy any freedom you're enjoying today including coming to Nairaland to write this stuff.

Christians are called to be servants - so shine your light wherever you are whether in politics or otherwise. Remember, a civil servant is also working for the government just like the politician.

No single scripture to support your opinion, how are non-Christians suppose to believe you? The bible is not complicated, only when humans want to be mischievous they try to mystify the word of God. Jesus and his apostles, even early Christians were neutral in world politics until apostasy came in.
Re: Are True Christians Suppose To Participate In Politics? by Hardrive(m): 8:27am On Jul 22, 2018
Politics is for anyone with character and sound knowledge and a good plan. We are human beings first.
Re: Are True Christians Suppose To Participate In Politics? by maximunimpact(m): 8:28am On Jul 22, 2018
dingbang:
Is prof yemi osinbade a Muslim? Its like your head is not korekt

he is not a christian, he's only a church goer
Re: Are True Christians Suppose To Participate In Politics? by TheUbermensch: 8:29am On Jul 22, 2018
There's some place in the Bible, I think the book of Kings that states that Priests shouldn't do the work of Kings and Kings shouldn't do the work of priest.


Before going any further it should be noted that politics is a matter of amorality. There are many things in it that conflict with the tenet of true Christian faith. Don't let anyone deceive you. It's not a thing for the light hearted. The end game is to get what you want. How you go about that doesn't matter.

But the Bible verse I paraphrased explains that those already holding a post in the church shouldn't bother with affairs of the state and vice versa.

So it is indeed in great error we have a VP clearly flouting God's word. How he did that and no one noticed beats my imagination.

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Re: Are True Christians Suppose To Participate In Politics? by Nobody: 8:30am On Jul 22, 2018
It is always difficult for a good christian to be in politics because you will compromise your faith. You cannot tell the truth in politics otherwise no one will vote for you. You must like everyone and confess openly that you like gays and lesbian, muslims, traditionalist etc. Elected leaders in Nigeria sometimes have to swear, take oath and make rituals with human blood. What of hired killings . How will a christian survive all of these.
Re: Are True Christians Suppose To Participate In Politics? by Noblefreeman(m): 8:32am On Jul 22, 2018
[quote author=maximunimpact post=69597838]In Nigeria today the political climate is charged up ahead of the 2019 general elections and many aspirants are cashing in on voters across religious divides. Because i am a christian my opinion here will focus on what the bible says about worldly rulership and political power.

Why Did Jesus Not Get Involved in Politics?

PICTURE a scene from the year 32 C.E. It is late in the day. Jesus, the foretold Messiah, has already won great renown for healing the sick and even resurrecting the dead. Today, he has awed a crowd of thousands by performing powerful signs and by sharing teachings of God. Now he divides the hungry people into smaller groups. He prays to Jehovah and miraculously feeds them all. Then, to avoid waste, he collects the leftovers. How do the people react?​—John 6:1-13.

Well, after seeing Jesus’ miracles and his skillful leadership in managing the crowds and caring for their needs, the people conclude that Jesus would be a perfect king. (John 6:14) Their response is not surprising. Remember that they were desperate for a good, effective ruler; their beloved homeland was under the oppressive rule of a foreign power. So they put direct pressure on Jesus to join in the political process. With that background in mind, consider his reaction.

“Jesus, knowing they were about to come and seize him to make him king, withdrew again into the mountain all alone,” says John 6:15. Jesus’ stand could hardly have been more decisive. He resolutely refused to get involved in the politics of his homeland. His stand never changed. He said that his followers were to take the same position. (John 17:16) Why did he take this stand?

Why Did Jesus Choose Neutrality?

Jesus’ neutrality regarding the politics of this world was well-grounded in Scriptural principles. Consider just two.

“Man has dominated man to his injury.” (Ecclesiastes 8:9) That is how the Bible sums up the history of human rule. Remember, Jesus existed as a spirit in heaven long before he came to earth as a man. (John 17:5) He thus knew that man, however well-meaning, lacks the ability to care properly for the needs of billions of people; nor was he created by God to do so. (Jeremiah 10:23) Jesus knew that the solution to mankind’s problems lay elsewhere​—not in human governments.

“The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one.” (1 John 5:19) Do you find that statement startling? Many do. They think of sincere people who get involved in government because they want to make the world a better, safer place. Try as they might, though, even the most sincere rulers cannot overcome the influence of the one whom Jesus called “the ruler of this world.” (John 12:31; 14:30) That is why Jesus said to one worldly politician: “My kingdom is no part of this world.” (John 18:36) Jesus was the prospective King of God’s heavenly government. Had Jesus mixed in politics, he would have sacrificed his loyalty to his Father’s government.

Did Jesus teach, then, that his followers have no obligation to earthly governments? On the contrary, he taught them how to find the right balance between their responsibilities toward God and their obligations toward secular governments.

Jesus Respected Governmental Authority

While Jesus was teaching in the temple, opposers tried to put him in an impossible situation by asking whether people should pay taxes. If Jesus said no, his answer would have been deemed seditious and might even have fueled a spirit of revolt among downtrodden people eager to throw off the yoke of Roman oppression. But if Jesus said yes, many would have felt that he condoned the injustices they faced. Jesus’ answer was a masterpiece of balance. He said: “Pay back Caesar’s things to Caesar, but God’s things to God.” (Luke 20:21-25) So his followers have obligations to God and to Caesar​—that is, the secular government.

Governments maintain a measure of order. They rightly require citizens to be honest, to pay taxes, and to uphold the law. What example did Jesus set in paying “Caesar’s things to Caesar”? Jesus had been raised by parents who obeyed the law even when doing so was inconvenient. For example, Joseph and his pregnant wife, Mary, traveled some 90 miles [150 km] to Bethlehem when a Roman census decree required it. (Luke 2:1-5) Like them, Jesus was law-abiding, even paying taxes that he did not really owe. (Matthew 17:24-27) He also carefully refrained from overstepping his authority in secular matters. (Luke 12:13, 14) We might say that Jesus respected the machinery of government, although he refused to operate it. What, though, did Jesus mean about paying “God’s things to God”?

How Jesus Gave “God’s Things to God”

Jesus was once asked which was the greatest of all the laws God gave to man. Christ answered: “‘You must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind.’ This is the greatest and first commandment. The second, like it, is this, ‘You must love your neighbor as yourself.’” (Matthew 22:37-39) Jesus taught that when it comes to paying “God’s things to God,” the first thing we owe Him is love​—which involves our wholehearted, complete allegiance.

Can such love be divided? Can our loyalty be split, with some going to Jehovah God and his heavenly government and some going to an earthly government? Jesus himself stated the principle: “No one can slave for two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will stick to the one and despise the other.” (Matthew 6:24) Jesus was there speaking about dividing one’s loyalties between God and riches, but he clearly felt that the same principle applied to involvement in politics​—as did his followers in the first century.

The oldest available records show that Jesus’ followers in the ancient world did not take any active part in politics. Because they gave all their worship to the One whom Christ worshipped, they refused to pledge allegiance to Rome and its emperor, to take up military service, and to accept public office. They suffered all manner of hostility as a result. Their enemies sometimes accused them of hatred against mankind. Was that accusation a fair one?

True Christians Care About People

Recall Jesus’ reference to the second-greatest of God’s commandments​—“You must love your neighbor as yourself.” Clearly, no genuine follower of Christ is free to hate mankind. Jesus loved people, expended himself for them, and helped them even with the most practical and mundane problems.​—Mark 5:25-34; John 2:1-10.

For what, though, was Jesus primarily known? He was addressed, not as Healer, not as Feeder of Thousands, and not even as Resurrector of the Dead​—although he did fill all those remarkable roles. But people called him Teacher, and rightly so. (John 1:38; 13:13) Jesus explained that a major reason he came to the earth was to teach people about the Kingdom of God.​—Luke 4:43.

That is why Christ’s genuine followers devote themselves to the same work that occupied their Master when he walked the earth​—teaching people the good news about God’s Kingdom. Jesus Christ commissioned all true Christians to teach people worldwide about that subject. (Matthew 24:14; 28:19, 20) That incorruptible heavenly government will rule over all of God’s creation, according to the law of love. It will accomplish God’s will, even eliminating suffering and death. (Matthew 6:9, 10; Revelation 21:3, 4) No wonder the Bible refers to Christ’s message as “good news”!​—Luke 8:1.

So if you are looking for the genuine followers of Jesus Christ on earth today, how can you identify them? Will they be mixing in the politics of this world? Or are they making their main mission the same as that of Jesus​—preaching and teaching about the Kingdom of God?

SOURCE[/nice informal witnessing my brother ]
Re: Are True Christians Suppose To Participate In Politics? by TheUbermensch: 8:32am On Jul 22, 2018
maximunimpact:


No single scripture to support your opinion, how are non-Christians suppose to believe you? The bible is not complicated, only when humans want to be mischievous they try to mystify the word of God. Jesus and his apostles, even early Christians were neutral in world politics until apostasy came in.

Only Jehovah's Witnesses say rubbish like "Apostasy".

Obviously you do not understand the structure of government or politics so you see it as evil.

Without politics there'd be no government and and with no government there'd be no order. And without order I can kill the next birdbrained JW that knocks on my door like its their father's and nothing would happen.

So yea, be thankful for politics.

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Re: Are True Christians Suppose To Participate In Politics? by JamesIkosong(m): 8:37am On Jul 22, 2018
If you have written a book, don't just rush to publish it. Get an editor first.

Re: Are True Christians Suppose To Participate In Politics? by TruthinAction: 8:39am On Jul 22, 2018
Joseph was second in command in Egypt.

Daniel was second in command in 3 successive government in a strange land.

The Scripture says in

Proverbs 29:2 When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.

Notice it didn't say, if the righteous but when the righteous.

We are the one that should be ruling. We are the head and not the tail.

We will be fully in charge when Jesus takes over the kingdom from the devil during his millennium reign.
Re: Are True Christians Suppose To Participate In Politics? by VagileVictor(m): 8:45am On Jul 22, 2018
Yes! Yes!! Yes!!! Christians are supposedly the major politicians and should be engrossed into it because the Holy Book says "When the righteous rules, the people rejoice".

I believe very strongly that if the kind of politics being played in the Churches are transferred or brought into the system, sanity will be maintained because the situation surrounding elective positions in our Churches do not lead to death.

It is the heartless and jobless traditionalist who have subtly paved themselves into the political leadership that kills, maim and destroys everything that tends to be a blockage on their way to the top.

May God take out those heartless and jobless traditionalist from our political spheres in Jesus name.
Re: Are True Christians Suppose To Participate In Politics? by maximunimpact(m): 8:49am On Jul 22, 2018
TheUbermensch:


Only Jehovah's Witnesses say rubbish like "Apostasy".

Obviously you do not understand the structure of government or politics so you see it as evil.

Without politics there'd be no government and and with no government there'd be no order. And without order I can kill the next birdbrained JW that knocks on my door like its their father's and nothing would happen.

So yea, be thankful for politics.

are you a christian?
Re: Are True Christians Suppose To Participate In Politics? by Ijaya123: 8:51am On Jul 22, 2018
Who are Christians and who are politicians?
Re: Are True Christians Suppose To Participate In Politics? by theoldpretender(m): 8:56am On Jul 22, 2018
daywatcher:
Nigeria will develop faster if muslims and christians stay away from our leadership. Because we will have leaders that lead us based facts, new knowledge and evidence.

grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

From 1917-91, the Soviet Union was run by atheists. When it collapsed, it was in a mess economically speaking.(People were queing for food).

Here is a good soviet joke.

An American dog, a Soviet Dog and a polish dog were arguing (Poland was a satellite of the USSR fron 1945-89)

American dog: If I want some meat, I bark and someone gives me some meat!

Soviet dog: What's meat?

Polish dog : What's bark.?

Speaking of the USA...it achieved prosperity under leaders who openly extolled their Christianity.

You see, the reason why countries get developed is when the government provides the enabling environment for individuals to achieve their dreams, and also when people realise that the govt is not there to feed them 24/7.

In Nigeria we are not underdeveloped because religion. We are underdeveloped because most people prefer to graduate from school and go work in a nice comfy airconditoned office. Creating jobs, solving problems, they know not. Plus most people expect someone to help them out.

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Re: Are True Christians Suppose To Participate In Politics? by obowunmi(m): 8:59am On Jul 22, 2018
Y.E.S.

The answer is Yes.
Re: Are True Christians Suppose To Participate In Politics? by toye440: 9:02am On Jul 22, 2018
ednut1:
Answer is no. Politics is sin filled. See as pastor osibande has become a serial liar and hypo
our non participation is y Nigeria suffering. Mark my words every Moon god worshipper candidate always change their mission from changing or improving our status to demonically enforcing his demonic religion on all. When a christian rules u see new innovation, creativity and growth, but wen moon god worshipers rule u can see killings everywhere, blood letting to appease the moon god.
Re: Are True Christians Suppose To Participate In Politics? by sunmily: 9:02am On Jul 22, 2018
So if a country is made up of Christians only they should go and hire unbelievers to do politics for them
Re: Are True Christians Suppose To Participate In Politics? by jmoore(m): 9:08am On Jul 22, 2018
Nonsense post!!!

You don't want to be involved in politics but you obey paying tax to government. If government is satan, paying tax to government makes you a demon. Ignoramus!!!!

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Re: Are True Christians Suppose To Participate In Politics? by bigiyaro(m): 9:11am On Jul 22, 2018
pls Mr op, jst go down d drain alone, don't drag any body wit u. metcheww
Re: Are True Christians Suppose To Participate In Politics? by Maximus85(m): 9:17am On Jul 22, 2018
So, this is the secret. It's not the message you people hate. It is the people sharing the message that you hate. See how cordial and friendly you guys are commenting.

This is a message from We Jehovah's Witnesses. This is one of the loads of truths from the Bible that we preach.
Re: Are True Christians Suppose To Participate In Politics? by mcyemite(m): 9:30am On Jul 22, 2018
In case you don't really Christians are the first politicians
Re: Are True Christians Suppose To Participate In Politics? by chigoziri2403(m): 9:32am On Jul 22, 2018
Politics is of the world, no true Christian should be involved, for he would be corrupted, example a certain v. P in bondage
Re: Are True Christians Suppose To Participate In Politics? by Billygee2u: 9:44am On Jul 22, 2018
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In Nigeria today the political climate is charged up ahead of the 2019 general elections and many aspirants are cashing in on voters across religious divides. Because i am a christian my opinion here will focus on what the bible says about worldly rulership and political power.

Why Did Jesus Not Get Involved in Politics?

PICTURE a scene from the year 32 C.E. It is late in the day. Jesus, the foretold Messiah, has already won great renown for healing the sick and even resurrecting the dead. Today, he has awed a crowd of thousands by performing powerful signs and by sharing teachings of God. Now he divides the hungry people into smaller groups. He prays to Jehovah and miraculously feeds them all. Then, to avoid waste, he collects the leftovers. How do the people react?​—John 6:1-13.

Well, after seeing Jesus’ miracles and his skillful leadership in managing the crowds and caring for their needs, the people conclude that Jesus would be a perfect king. (John 6:14) Their response is not surprising. Remember that they were desperate for a good, effective ruler; their beloved homeland was under the oppressive rule of a foreign power. So they put direct pressure on Jesus to join in the political process. With that background in mind, consider his reaction.

“Jesus, knowing they were about to come and seize him to make him king, withdrew again into the mountain all alone,” says John 6:15. Jesus’ stand could hardly have been more decisive. He resolutely refused to get involved in the politics of his homeland. His stand never changed. He said that his followers were to take the same position. (John 17:16) Why did he take this stand?

Why Did Jesus Choose Neutrality?

Jesus’ neutrality regarding the politics of this world was well-grounded in Scriptural principles. Consider just two.

“Man has dominated man to his injury.” (Ecclesiastes 8:9) That is how the Bible sums up the history of human rule. Remember, Jesus existed as a spirit in heaven long before he came to earth as a man. (John 17:5) He thus knew that man, however well-meaning, lacks the ability to care properly for the needs of billions of people; nor was he created by God to do so. (Jeremiah 10:23) Jesus knew that the solution to mankind’s problems lay elsewhere​—not in human governments.

“The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one.” (1 John 5:19) Do you find that statement startling? Many do. They think of sincere people who get involved in government because they want to make the world a better, safer place. Try as they might, though, even the most sincere rulers cannot overcome the influence of the one whom Jesus called “the ruler of this world.” (John 12:31; 14:30) That is why Jesus said to one worldly politician: “My kingdom is no part of this world.” (John 18:36) Jesus was the prospective King of God’s heavenly government. Had Jesus mixed in politics, he would have sacrificed his loyalty to his Father’s government.

Did Jesus teach, then, that his followers have no obligation to earthly governments? On the contrary, he taught them how to find the right balance between their responsibilities toward God and their obligations toward secular governments.

Jesus Respected Governmental Authority

While Jesus was teaching in the temple, opposers tried to put him in an impossible situation by asking whether people should pay taxes. If Jesus said no, his answer would have been deemed seditious and might even have fueled a spirit of revolt among downtrodden people eager to throw off the yoke of Roman oppression. But if Jesus said yes, many would have felt that he condoned the injustices they faced. Jesus’ answer was a masterpiece of balance. He said: “Pay back Caesar’s things to Caesar, but God’s things to God.” (Luke 20:21-25) So his followers have obligations to God and to Caesar​—that is, the secular government.

Governments maintain a measure of order. They rightly require citizens to be honest, to pay taxes, and to uphold the law. What example did Jesus set in paying “Caesar’s things to Caesar”? Jesus had been raised by parents who obeyed the law even when doing so was inconvenient. For example, Joseph and his pregnant wife, Mary, traveled some 90 miles [150 km] to Bethlehem when a Roman census decree required it. (Luke 2:1-5) Like them, Jesus was law-abiding, even paying taxes that he did not really owe. (Matthew 17:24-27) He also carefully refrained from overstepping his authority in secular matters. (Luke 12:13, 14) We might say that Jesus respected the machinery of government, although he refused to operate it. What, though, did Jesus mean about paying “God’s things to God”?

How Jesus Gave “God’s Things to God”

Jesus was once asked which was the greatest of all the laws God gave to man. Christ answered: “‘You must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind.’ This is the greatest and first commandment. The second, like it, is this, ‘You must love your neighbor as yourself.’” (Matthew 22:37-39) Jesus taught that when it comes to paying “God’s things to God,” the first thing we owe Him is love​—which involves our wholehearted, complete allegiance.

Can such love be divided? Can our loyalty be split, with some going to Jehovah God and his heavenly government and some going to an earthly government? Jesus himself stated the principle: “No one can slave for two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will stick to the one and despise the other.” (Matthew 6:24) Jesus was there speaking about dividing one’s loyalties between God and riches, but he clearly felt that the same principle applied to involvement in politics​—as did his followers in the first century.

The oldest available records show that Jesus’ followers in the ancient world did not take any active part in politics. Because they gave all their worship to the One whom Christ worshipped, they refused to pledge allegiance to Rome and its emperor, to take up military service, and to accept public office. They suffered all manner of hostility as a result. Their enemies sometimes accused them of hatred against mankind. Was that accusation a fair one?

True Christians Care About People

Recall Jesus’ reference to the second-greatest of God’s commandments​—“You must love your neighbor as yourself.” Clearly, no genuine follower of Christ is free to hate mankind. Jesus loved people, expended himself for them, and helped them even with the most practical and mundane problems.​—Mark 5:25-34; John 2:1-10.

For what, though, was Jesus primarily known? He was addressed, not as Healer, not as Feeder of Thousands, and not even as Resurrector of the Dead​—although he did fill all those remarkable roles. But people called him Teacher, and rightly so. (John 1:38; 13:13) Jesus explained that a major reason he came to the earth was to teach people about the Kingdom of God.​—Luke 4:43.

That is why Christ’s genuine followers devote themselves to the same work that occupied their Master when he walked the earth​—teaching people the good news about God’s Kingdom. Jesus Christ commissioned all true Christians to teach people worldwide about that subject. (Matthew 24:14; 28:19, 20) That incorruptible heavenly government will rule over all of God’s creation, according to the law of love. It will accomplish God’s will, even eliminating suffering and death. (Matthew 6:9, 10; Revelation 21:3, 4) No wonder the Bible refers to Christ’s message as “good news”!​—Luke 8:1.

So if you are looking for the genuine followers of Jesus Christ on earth today, how can you identify them? Will they be mixing in the politics of this world? Or are they making their main mission the same as that of Jesus​—preaching and teaching about the Kingdom of God?

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