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Re: Over 5,000 Nigerian Doctors In S/africa - Envoy by Jokerman(m): 6:58am On Jul 24, 2018
ednut1:
u no get sense abeg. After 8 years of suffering some are earning 80k working in hospitals wey no get beta equipment. U say mk dem no run. U are mad

Lol.... at least dem dey collect pay.... some people never see anything collect.... If all doctors leave, who go remain to help or change the country for the better??
Re: Over 5,000 Nigerian Doctors In S/africa - Envoy by Olujoe1(m): 7:00am On Jul 24, 2018
Nwaforj44:


The Consul General of Nigeria in South Africa, Godwin Adama, said there are about 5,000 Nigerian Medical practitioners working in various hospitals in South Africa.
The Vice Consul, Information and Culture, Mr David Abraham, said this in a statement made available to newsmen on Monday in Abuja.

Abraham quoted the Consul General, Godwin Adama, as saying this when Nigerian Doctors’ Forum South Africa, led by its Secretary General, Dr Emeka Ugwu, visited the CG in Johannesburg.


“This shows that virtually every hospital in South Africa has a sizeable number of Nigerian doctors; and this includes teaching, public and private hospitals.


“What this means is that Nigerian doctors and other professionals are constantly adding value to the system and this cannot be over-emphasised.”


He said South Africa is replete with Nigerian professionals, who are contributing to the economic development in both public and private sectors of the the country.


“Unfortunately, this has been either not reported at all or grossly under-reported.


“It is in this light that Nigerian professionals in South Africa have determined that they will no longer sit by and allow their numerous contributions be undermined and eroded by negative publicity,” he said.

http://www.akelicious.net/2018/07/over-5000-nigerian-doctors-in-safrica.html

I'm joining soon.... Nigeria doctors in diaspora
Re: Over 5,000 Nigerian Doctors In S/africa - Envoy by cy4by: 7:07am On Jul 24, 2018
Ahmed0336:
Before nko? When the government have failed in creating a good working environment and well packaged salaries what do you expect?
At the end of the day, the citizens suffer most especially those who don't have enough to travel abroad for treatment.
Re: Over 5,000 Nigerian Doctors In S/africa - Envoy by ednut1(m): 7:07am On Jul 24, 2018
Jokerman:


Lol.... at least dem dey collect pay.... some people never see anything collect.... If all doctors leave, who go remain to help or change the country for the better??
ur president and lawmaker who have power to equip nd revamp the system no dey use naija hospitals. U con say mk dem no run. In canada some nigerians are earning 250k dol yearly as docs, abeg mak patrotism go rest abeg
Re: Over 5,000 Nigerian Doctors In S/africa - Envoy by Jokerman(m): 7:10am On Jul 24, 2018
ednut1:
ur president and lawmaker who have power to equip nd revamp the system no dey use naija hospitals. U con say mk dem no run. In canada some nigerians are earning 250k dol yearly as docs, abeg mak patrotism go rest abeg

Doctors own better na... u know wetin Engineers dey suffer??

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Re: Over 5,000 Nigerian Doctors In S/africa - Envoy by Nobody: 7:19am On Jul 24, 2018
Health care in Nigeria is deteriorating by the day
God help us
Re: Over 5,000 Nigerian Doctors In S/africa - Envoy by QualityHealthCa: 7:19am On Jul 24, 2018
Nwaforj44:


The Consul General of Nigeria in South Africa, Godwin Adama, said there are about 5,000 Nigerian Medical practitioners working in various hospitals in South Africa.
The Vice Consul, Information and Culture, Mr David Abraham, said this in a statement made available to newsmen on Monday in Abuja.

Abraham quoted the Consul General, Godwin Adama, as saying this when Nigerian Doctors’ Forum South Africa, led by its Secretary General, Dr Emeka Ugwu, visited the CG in Johannesburg.


“This shows that virtually every hospital in South Africa has a sizeable number of Nigerian doctors; and this includes teaching, public and private hospitals.


“What this means is that Nigerian doctors and other professionals are constantly adding value to the system and this cannot be over-emphasised.”


He said South Africa is replete with Nigerian professionals, who are contributing to the economic development in both public and private sectors of the the country.


“Unfortunately, this has been either not reported at all or grossly under-reported.


“It is in this light that Nigerian professionals in South Africa have determined that they will no longer sit by and allow their numerous contributions be undermined and eroded by negative publicity,” he said
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http://www.akelicious.net/2018/07/over-5000-nigerian-doctors-in-safrica.html

Be forming stronghead in another man's land, maybe na them sey make una no "develope" una own country... cheesy
Re: Over 5,000 Nigerian Doctors In S/africa - Envoy by seXytOhbAd(m): 7:22am On Jul 24, 2018
Jokerman:
Those doctors are not patriotic.... FG should find a way to curtail the movement of these doctors...

Spoken like a real life retard. Curtail the movement of people who are underpaid, overworked and under appreciated? Then that means you need to be caged

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Re: Over 5,000 Nigerian Doctors In S/africa - Envoy by Jaqenhghar: 7:24am On Jul 24, 2018
IamaNigerianGuy:


No. What this means is that Nigeria is a failed state where the educated and talented see no future.
Truth is this shithole has detoriorated to the extent that it is incapable of utililizing its human capacity
Re: Over 5,000 Nigerian Doctors In S/africa - Envoy by Nobody: 7:26am On Jul 24, 2018
Jokerman:


If every professional runs out, how can Nigeria get better??
it's not the professionals that ran out that made the country rotten. it's the country getting rotten that made the professionals run away. so u don't tell them to stay so that the country will get better. u fix the country and then they will stay. that's simple logic.

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Re: Over 5,000 Nigerian Doctors In S/africa - Envoy by Nobody: 7:27am On Jul 24, 2018
Diiet:
And yet they kill Nigerians as if we are not adding any value to their country.
Anytime they unjustly kill another Nigerian, our Doctors working over there should use their large presence in SA health sector to fight back by going on strike. If they do this, there goverment and people will learn to respect us.

Lol, why are they no killing all these doctors and professionals if they hate us for nothing,? Why always the " hustler"? . Shine your eyes and be wise. These doctors aren't stupid or clouded by silly emotions, they know what's really happening on the ground and want no part of it. If they did what you say they must do , who will lose undecided. You do know that South Africa attracts doctors from all over Africa, Europe and America and they have thousands of their own. They will simple deport the nigerian ones and recruit from serious nations .

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Re: Over 5,000 Nigerian Doctors In S/africa - Envoy by AngelicBeing: 7:35am On Jul 24, 2018
lekjons:
Nigeria is a failed country!
Gbam sad
Re: Over 5,000 Nigerian Doctors In S/africa - Envoy by emmie14: 7:59am On Jul 24, 2018
Jokerman:
Those doctors are not patriotic.... FG should find a way to curtail the movement of these doctors...
Those in UK and USA also not patriotic? Think or try to analyze the cause of exodus of Nigerian professionals abroad before labelling them unpatriotic? The poor working conditions and tribal sentiments in labour market included. The government knows what to do.
Re: Over 5,000 Nigerian Doctors In S/africa - Envoy by dandollaz: 8:00am On Jul 24, 2018
Jokerman:


So who go come change Nigeria...??
Which change?
I don't support war but Nigeria is not united and need to disintegrate.
Imagine the tribal/region war in this country.
Alot of blood flowing as if we are at war.
Re: Over 5,000 Nigerian Doctors In S/africa - Envoy by emmie14: 8:03am On Jul 24, 2018
Runalong333:


Lol, why are they no killing all these doctors and professionals if they hate us for nothing,? Why always the " hustler"? . Shine your eyes and be wise. These doctors aren't stupid or clouded by silly emotions, they know what's really happening on the ground and want no part of it. If they did what you say they must do , who will lose undecided. You do know that South Africa attracts doctors from all over Africa, Europe and America and they have thousands of their own. They will simple deport the nigerian ones and recruit from serious nations .
Impact more sensitive ideas into that imbecyl
Re: Over 5,000 Nigerian Doctors In S/africa - Envoy by Hienna(m): 8:08am On Jul 24, 2018
i will also do that if i was in their position
the problem with this country has started since 1960
am not supporting anyone
but its not the government alone, there are some hidden virus we dont know, they are the main destroyer.
Re: Over 5,000 Nigerian Doctors In S/africa - Envoy by Ikpongiton: 8:13am On Jul 24, 2018
that is why nigeria bureau of statistics say that,unemployment is reducing in nigeria.nonsense .
Re: Over 5,000 Nigerian Doctors In S/africa - Envoy by micflo28(m): 8:13am On Jul 24, 2018
Reason why common bullet wounds they hide under police report to avoid here. Serious Brain drain and exodus of intellectual property.

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Re: Over 5,000 Nigerian Doctors In S/africa - Envoy by Horus(m): 8:30am On Jul 24, 2018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ozZFB66Mao

Brain drain results in massive shortage of medical doctors in Nigeria
Re: Over 5,000 Nigerian Doctors In S/africa - Envoy by thedondada(m): 8:56am On Jul 24, 2018
Runalong333:


Lol, why are they no killing all these doctors and professionals if they hate us for nothing,? Why always the " hustler"? . Shine your eyes and be wise. These doctors aren't stupid or clouded by silly emotions, they know what's really happening on the ground and want no part of it. If they did what you say they must do , who will lose undecided. You do know that South Africa attracts doctors from all over Africa, Europe and America and they have thousands of their own. They will simple deport the nigerian ones and recruit from serious nations .

The hustler also known as drug dealer got shot with for no apparent reason.

Lol and they think it's xenophobia. That's an assassination in hustle terms a HIT
Re: Over 5,000 Nigerian Doctors In S/africa - Envoy by aribisala0(m): 9:01am On Jul 24, 2018
There is a simple solution. DO not issue certificates untl 8 years after graduation or they can pay 20 million for the cost of their training
Re: Over 5,000 Nigerian Doctors In S/africa - Envoy by puretayo(m): 9:03am On Jul 24, 2018
Oh lawd! I need visa to enter Biafra Republic.
Re: Over 5,000 Nigerian Doctors In S/africa - Envoy by sartorius(m): 9:07am On Jul 24, 2018
aribisala0:
There is a simple solution. DO not issue certificates untl 8 years after graduation or they can pay 20 million for the cost of their training

Bros, you are not in medieval era.

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Re: Over 5,000 Nigerian Doctors In S/africa - Envoy by steam74: 9:15am On Jul 24, 2018
Jokerman:
Those doctors are not patriotic.... FG should find a way to curtail the movement of these doctors...

Nice joke Jokerman.
Re: Over 5,000 Nigerian Doctors In S/africa - Envoy by Nobody: 9:29am On Jul 24, 2018
ofcourse! what should the doctors do? as nigeria is a shithole!!
Re: Over 5,000 Nigerian Doctors In S/africa - Envoy by aribisala0(m): 9:32am On Jul 24, 2018
sartorius:


Bros, you are not in medieval era.
Guy if you do not have a brain do not quote me rudely . I have zero tolerance for wiseguys so keep your wisecracks to yourself.

In the UK and the US for example hardly anyone graduates from medical without debt usually in excess of $60000.

The government is well within its rights to charge university students the real cost of their education without subsidy. Those who can pay are free to graduate and go
those who cannot will have to "work off " the debt on terms that are explicit before they matriculate. It is fair to say we retain your certificate until you have paid your debt.
If you owe a university they are within their rights to withhold your certificate

There is nothing medieval about that . It is business.
I know for a fact that doctors trained in the 70s 80s and 90s did not pay one kobo as fees and after graduation many have left the country .

That is not sustainable.
Now in England university education is no longer free so there is nothing new or unprecedented. There are student loans in every country. The method of recovery varies from place to place but if you are trained as a doctor for free in Nigeria and you want to leave then you should pay for the real cost of your education

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Re: Over 5,000 Nigerian Doctors In S/africa - Envoy by Tedassie(m): 9:40am On Jul 24, 2018
Diiet:
And yet they kill Nigerians as if we are not adding any value to their country.
Anytime they unjustly kill another Nigerian, our Doctors working over there should use their large presence in SA health sector to fight back by going on strike. If they do this, their goverment and people will learn to respect us.
I think i go with this idea,it will be nice if these doctors could come together as an association of some sort united in solidarity to achieving certain goals and objectives.

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Re: Over 5,000 Nigerian Doctors In S/africa - Envoy by aribisala0(m): 9:45am On Jul 24, 2018
Jokerman:
Those doctors are not patriotic.... FG should find a way to curtail the movement of these doctors...
I do no think their movement should be curtailed but there should be something like a student statement of account so every student knows the "cost price " of their university education each year and the amount they have contributed. That should form a social contract between the student and university with repayment terms made explicit from day one.

No one wants to put a price on it but is their a university subsidy in federal universitiies? And how much is it for different courses per student.

Everyone should get an annual statement even if they do not have to pay upfront so people can discard the idea that government does nothing for me.

After graduation the total "debt" is computed and terms agreed. If we have bilateral agreements with some destination countries for these doctors then they can agree to have deductions from ther salaries till their debt is paid.

Many Nigerian doctors are even advantaged compared to the doctors in countries like the US.

A Nigerian doctor arrives with no debt and starts earning while his US counterpart may have a debt of $100000 which would take them 10 years to pay.

They have a robust structure for recovering loans from the salaries of their own students so this can be sorted with a bilateral agreement and those wishing to go to signatory countries can go as long as Nigerian universities get paid
Re: Over 5,000 Nigerian Doctors In S/africa - Envoy by bigsmoke2(m): 9:54am On Jul 24, 2018
https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/www.nationalhelm.co/2018/01/nigerian-doctor-reveals-what-he-does-to-make-extra-cash-in-the-uk.html/amp?source=images
A doctor who is a former PA to an assistant commissioner in IMO state is doing kitchen assistant in the united states. That tells you how bad things are for in This country. Entry level doctors salary in Kenya rivals the top earning doctors in Nigeria. So tell me why I won't Go and drive taxi I'm Canada with my doctor certificate. When the renumeration is almost the same thing with consultants pay here.
Re: Over 5,000 Nigerian Doctors In S/africa - Envoy by danilmo: 10:20am On Jul 24, 2018
just finished preclinical,(now in path and pharm class ) surprised most ( I mean 60% ) of my class mate av already gotten usmle text and getting orientation from seniors on how to jet out,

I av no choice than to tell them to put me thru also..


hmm, Nigeria will get her fact right someday but before then lemme follow suite first..



Amarabae comes to mind, ( tell me na taxi all of them are driving)
cheesy

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