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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by proffemi: 11:12am On Jul 30, 2018
Xander85:


Au contraire, you're the one that comes out of this with egg on your face!

Your initial post is nothing more than the subjective rantings of a deranged, hypocritical paranoid-schizo! He was only letting know this fact!

How about you set the ball rolling by getting 'facts and data' on the bigotry of your own ethnic group towards Ndigbo? Or maybe you wanna posit that it's a one-way thing and that your people are innocent victims in all this?

Your language shows who you are. I'll leave it at that.

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by resurgent2019: 11:12am On Jul 30, 2018
proffemi:
Point of correction.

We don't hate each other. We're different. Absolutely. Some Igbos hate some yorubas and vice versa. Definitely. But NEVER swallow the narrative of wholesale hatred between Yorubas and Igbos. For every example of hatred, I bet you know dozens of examples of peaceful, harmonious inter-tribal marriage and productive cooperation.

This hints at the very point of this thread. If you repeat something long enough, people start believing it. Yhe more we allow tribalistic posts to become the norm here, the more people accept the doctrine of wholesale hate.

You are just being politically correct. Don’t you see how they destroyed your thread? You have time oooo. Goodluck with trying to convince igbos here. It seems you are less busy.

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by proffemi: 11:14am On Jul 30, 2018
Amumaigwe:


Oh, you are now sounding like a peace-loving dude because Igbos have proven themselves better than you lots in your game of hate? You should have inquired about the character of an Igbo man before venturing into such a foolhardy ish: we are too hot to handle.

Hmm. This Game of Hate you refer to has not ended yet for you to declare a victor.

Unless you are above 50, I know more about the "character of an Igbo man" more than you, so stop the chest beating already.
Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by resurgent2019: 11:15am On Jul 30, 2018
Amumaigwe:


Oh, you are now sounding like a peace-loving dude because Igbos have proven themselves better than you lots in your game of hate? You should have inquired about the character of an Igbo man before venturing into such a foolhardy ish: we are too hot to handle.

Yes, you are too hot to handle when it comes to hate. I blame anybody that tries to argue with igbos online. Igbos fight in packs like lions on a hunting expedition.

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by e7ejinima: 11:16am On Jul 30, 2018
The rivalry between Yoruba and Igbo is not a today's thing. It is now generational -passed from older generation to the newer ones.

Now, the question is - is it healthy?

Some will say it is not while some will say it is. At best, the answer to that is debatable.

Now know there's nothing so bad that there's nothing good in it and conversely (e.g. snake venom kills but it can also heal; sugar is sweet. Very sweet. But it's also harmful to the teeth and general health).

That's where I perch.

What's between Yoruba and Igbo is competition. Both are very competitive nations and both strive for excellence in what they do. So, the rivalry or competition in this light will make each nation to strive to better themselves even if it's just for 'making mouth' to the other rival. This is positive.

The negative: either tribe will undermine each other at any slightest opportunity. This happens in politics, in work places, even professional associations. This is very negative. This is also what the more backward Fulabi/Hausa feast on.

I will advocate for the Yoruba and Igbo to begin to come closer and forge a more formidable front. For instance, what the Yorubas want of the nation's polity is much closer to what the Igbos want -merit-based system, peace, security and stability; thriving economy; modernity (Both tribes are progressive in ideology, actions and expectations). Also, Igbos adapt easily to Yoruba culture and environment, and view versa. For I stance, many Igbos love amala and ewedu while many Yorubas love eba-ibo and vegetable or ogbono (ogbolo) soup. Igbos have also learnt to party to finish as the Yorubas while Yorubas are liking building and owning homes and landed property which the Igbo man like die. The younger Yorubas have also apparwntly adopted marrying and properly caring for one wife which is the main clincher for an Igbo man. Etc. Etc.

The op is clearly one-sided. His comment is typical of a side that feels the heat of the bashing. Its just bashing, e-bashing, thats all.

I find it all funny and entertaining. And Seun and Nairaland make tonnes of money from the trades. So don't expect them to promote that the bashing be stopped. All you read in Nairaland rules are just for saying sake.

With above I say, let the tribal bashing continue please. But the Yoruba and Igbo nations need to wake up. They hold the key to the progress of this nation. They should unite and fashion a common political agenda. The middlebelt is ready to come and join but not in the current acidic atmosphere that symbolises the history of Yoruba-Igbo relationship.

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by Turantula(m): 11:19am On Jul 30, 2018
resurgent2019:


This is exactly the point. And that’s why i blame the OP for even trying to talk sense into igbos. Igbos will continue hating Yorubas till eternity. An entire generation of igbos were raised to see Yorubas as enemies.

I have long stopped trying to reply igbo insults. I advice the OP to do same. Let’s face Fulani and Buhari.
Face your masters? Dont let Tinubu hear you O!

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by Juliusmalema: 11:19am On Jul 30, 2018
It is now clear that the OP is biased and poised to tarnish the good reputation of ndigbo....

I have for long stop reading any write up written by a yoruba man and edited by a yoruba man....coz is full of lies and hate.....

I have warned igbo to desist from any lagos-Ibadan express newspaper......

I have seen clearly the OP is on a deadly but the God we worship works in a mysterious way and never sleeps....

Ask awolowo about his latter end.

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by aniomafirstson: 11:28am On Jul 30, 2018
resurgent2019:


OP, please leave them alone. You can never dissuade them from hating other Nigerians—especially yorubas.

You should know that by now if you have been a long time member of this forum. You cannot beat then igbos when it comes to hate, you will only be wasting your own time. You better ignore them.


You can see how they have destroyed your thread? They roll in with waves of insults like a tsunami and completely destroy every thread. They are easily the most hateful people in Nigeria. But other than that, they are largely harmless. Its better you do something better with your time than try to reason with igbos oooo.

all this people self

you claim Igbos hate you but whenever we say we want Biafra you are even ready to fight war for 3years to keep them with you..

If you claim they hate you why can't you let them go

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by Juliusmalema: 11:30am On Jul 30, 2018
aniomafirstson:


all this people self

you claim Igbos hate you but whenever we say we want Biafra you are even ready to fight war for 3years to keep them with you..

If you claim they hate you why can't you let them go

well said bro.

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by resurgent2019: 11:31am On Jul 30, 2018
aniomafirstson:


all this people self

you claim Igbos hate you but whenever we say we want Biafra you are even ready to fight war for 3years to keep them with you..

If you claim they hate you why can't you let them go

Abeg free is about Biafra jareee. I can’t argue this morning.
Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by proffemi: 11:32am On Jul 30, 2018
e7ejinima:
The rivalry between Yoruba and Igbo is not a today's thing. It is now generational -passed from older generation to the newer ones.
...What's between Yoruba and Igbo is competition. Both are very competitive nations and both strive for excellence in what they do. So, the rivalry or competition in this light will make each nation to strive to better themselves even if it's just for 'making mouth' to the other rival. This is positive.

The negative: either tribe will undermine each other at any slightest opportunity. This happens in politics, in work places, even professional associations. This is very negative. This is also what the more backward Fulabi/Hausa feast on.

I will advocate for the Yoruba and Igbo to begin to come closer and forge a more formidable front. For instance, what the Yorubas want of the nation's polity is much closer to what the Igbos want -merit-based system, peace, security and stability; thriving economy; modernity (Both tribes are progressive in ideology, actions and expectations). ...

The op is clearly one-sided. His comment is typical of a side that feels the heat of the bashing. Its just bashing, e-bashing, thats all.


Finally, someone capable of articulating a position.

First, let me disabuse your mind of the notion that I am biased. I am a researcher, and arrive at no conclusion unless I have data to back it up. My conclusion is that notwithstanding the fact that tribalism is rife on Nairaland, more ndi'gbo resort to it unprovoked. It is based on months of (subjective!) observation. I hope you agree that if my observations are correct, then my argument is not one-sided? In which case, my question to you is: have you tried to actually collect data on this problem? If you have data to the contrary, I will most certainly eat crow. And gladly too.

Secondly, I agree with you that there is competition between the tribes. Unfortunately, this competition is rapidly becoming very unhealthy. I cannot see how you can find anything funny about that.

In creating this thread, I was not unmindful of the fact that the usual dregs would flood here with all manners of vituperation. I consider my decision to still go ahead with it on a Monday morning a debt paid to posterity, which will ultimately judge us all. The guilty, the innocent, and the insouciant.

Cheers.

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by aniomafirstson: 11:34am On Jul 30, 2018
resurgent2019:

Abeg free is about Biafra jareee. I can’t argue this morning.
Then get your facts right .If you claim Igbos hate you why can't you just let them go why?

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by resurgent2019: 11:36am On Jul 30, 2018
aniomafirstson:


Then get your facts right
.If you claim Igbos hate you why can't you just let them go
why?

So it is yoruba that is holding you abi?

See, how long have you been on NL? We have overflogged this issue na.

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by resurgent2019: 11:40am On Jul 30, 2018
Nobody hates igbos. And at the same time, most Nigerians on NL have long stopped tribal e-wars against igbos because they are tired.

Any observant person will notice that the rate of tribal threads have reduced. Nigerians are preoccupied with Fulanis and Buhari. No strength for hate on the part of most Yorubas.
Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by aniomafirstson: 11:40am On Jul 30, 2018
resurgent2019:

So it is yoruba that is holding you abi?
See, how long have you been on NL? We have overflogged this issue na.
An average Yoruba man doesn't want Biafra

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by gidgiddy: 11:41am On Jul 30, 2018
proffemi:


Finally, someone capable of articulating a position.

First, let me disabuse your mind of the notion that I am biased. I am a researcher, and arrive at no conclusion unless I have data to back it up. My conclusion is that notwithstanding the fact that tribalism is rife on Nairaland, more ndi'gbo resort to it unprovoked. It is based on months of (subjective!) observation. I hope you agree that if my observations are correct, then my argument is not one-sided? In which case, my question to you is: have you tried to actually collect data on this problem? If you have data to the contrary, I will most certainly eat crow. And gladly too.

Secondly, I agree with you that there is competition between the tribes. Unfortunately, this competition is rapidly becoming very unhealthy. I cannot see how you can find anything funny about that.

In creating this thread, I was not unmindful of the fact that the usual dregs would flood here with all manners of vituperation. I consider my decision to still go ahead with it on a Monday morning a debt paid to posterity, which will ultimately judge us all. The guilty, the innocent, and the insouciant.

Cheers.

It's clear to a blind man that you are writting from below..........

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by aniomafirstson: 11:42am On Jul 30, 2018
resurgent2019:
Nobody hates igbos. And at the same time, most Nigerians on NL have long stopped tribal e-wars against igbos because they are tired.

Any observant person will notice that the rate of tribal threads have reduced. Nigerians are preoccupied with Fulanis and Buhari. No strength for hate on the part of most Yorubas.

One of your brothers created this thread If I'm correct

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by resurgent2019: 11:43am On Jul 30, 2018
aniomafirstson:


An average Yoruba man doesn't want Biafra

What benefit will yorubas derive with igbos in Nigeria? Guy, free me ooo, I no get time for argument this morning. You keep deluding yourself with the thought that the average Yoruba cares whether igbos leave or stay. Yorubas don’t care!

If you want Biafra, go to Abuja and fight for it!

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by resurgent2019: 11:44am On Jul 30, 2018
aniomafirstson:


One of your brothers created this thread If I'm correct

He is an exception to the general rule on NL these days. He made a huge mistake creating this thread. I apologize on his behalf.
Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by aniomafirstson: 11:48am On Jul 30, 2018
resurgent2019:


What benefit will yorubas derive with igbos in Nigeria? Guy, free me ooo, I no get time for argument this morning. You keep deluding yourself with the thought that the average Yoruba cares whether igbos leave or stay. Yorubas don’t care!

If you want Biafra, go to Abuja and fight for it!

Tell yourself the truth

when operation Python dance was going on in the SE .. most Yorubas were jubilating

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by resurgent2019: 11:50am On Jul 30, 2018
aniomafirstson:


Tell yourself the truth

when operation Python dance was going on in the SE .. most Yorubas were jubilating

I don hear. Work hard on the Biafra issue and God will give igbos victory.
Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by aniomafirstson: 11:52am On Jul 30, 2018
resurgent2019:


I don hear. Work hard on the Biafra issue and God will give igbos victory.

Amen

no hard feelings

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by resurgent2019: 11:54am On Jul 30, 2018
aniomafirstson:


Amen

no hard feelings

Same here Bro. If you look well, yoruba no too get wahala. The main problem na Hausa.

We all know that.
Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by gidgiddy: 11:55am On Jul 30, 2018
aniomafirstson:




when operation Python dance was going on in the SE .. most Yorubas were jubilating

Of course, anything that brings misfortune to Igbo land makes them happy. After that, they will begin to look for who to do " One Nigeria" with.

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by resurgent2019: 11:58am On Jul 30, 2018
gidgiddy:


Of course, anything that brings misfortune to Igbo land makes them happy. After that, they will begin to look for who to do " One Nigeria" with.

SMH. It is well sha. Lemme not Talk.
Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by Juliusmalema: 11:58am On Jul 30, 2018
resurgent2019:


He is an exception to the general rule on NL these days. He made a huge mistake creating this thread. I apologize on his behalf.

just because of this apology, I will show some restraint....


try and educate him properly next time.


cc


proffemi

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by Strikethem: 12:33pm On Jul 30, 2018
loveth360:
get out of my mention.....
This is a Yoruba forum, own by bona-fide Yoruba son. So get out of the forum.

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by Strikethem: 12:36pm On Jul 30, 2018
aniomafirstson:


Tell yourself the truth

when operation Python dance was going on in the SE .. most Yorubas were jubilating
And when Hausa and Yoruba fought In Lagos, what were igbo doing. Wailing right?

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by proffemi: 12:38pm On Jul 30, 2018
resurgent2019:
... I apologize on his behalf.

Please don't do that.

I am old enough, and posess enough soundness of mind to recognize where I have erred, and to do the needful. Your attempt at being gentlemanly risks undermining a very important discussion.

As I have said, posterity will judge not only the guilty, but the insouciant. Don't be insouciant to the manace of tribalism because of perceived more urgent Fulani threats.

You opined earlier that I was just being politically correct. I let it slide then because, contrary to the impression given by my creating a Monday morning post, I am indeed busy, and responding selectively to posts.

I am not being PC. I maintain that despite the obvious inter-tribal differences and competition, the narative of wholesale hate is one that should not be allowed to take hold. Some of my best friends growing up were Igbo. Some of the smartest people I personaly know are Igbo. I have Igbo kinsmen by marriage. At this very instant, I am giving multiple opportunities to Igbos at the expense of Yorubas. These are but personaly examples from an ocean of examples I can personally attest to. Why should we then allow the propagation of a narrative of wholesale hate just because some imbeciles on Nairaland got a few MB of data?

Posterity demands that we have this conversation. This may not be the best forum or time, but one can only try. I have a thick enough skin to ignore most of the predictably stupid responses. I look forward to more measured and reasonable posts, and if they are not forthcoming, we all go on with our lives.

But if I ever get challenged at some distant date, I can point to my efforts to defuse the situation.

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by Juliusmalema: 12:52pm On Jul 30, 2018
proffemi:


Please don't do that.

I am old enough, and posess enough soundness of mind to recognize where I have erred, and to do the needful. Your attempt at being gentlemanly risks undermining a very important discussion.

As I have said, posterity will judge not only the guilty, but the insouciant. Don't be insouciant to the manace of tribalism because of perceived more urgent Fulani threats.

You opined earlier that I was just being politically correct. I let it slide then because, contrary to the impression given by my creating a Monday morning post, I am indeed busy, and responding selectively to posts.

I am not being PC. I maintain that despite the obvious inter-tribal differences and competition, the narative of wholesale hate is one that should not be allowed to take hold. Some of my best friends growing up were Igbo. Some of the smartest people I personaly know are Igbo. I have Igbo kinsmen by marriage. At this very instant, I am giving multiple opportunities to Igbos at the expense of Yorubas. These are but personaly examples from an ocean of examples I can personally attest to. Why should we then allow the propagation of a narrative of wholesale hate just because some imbeciles on Nairaland got a few MB of data?

Posterity demands that we have this conversation. This may not be the best forum or time, but one can only try. I have a thick enough skin to ignore most of the predictably stupid responses. I look forward to more measured and reasonable posts, and if they are not forthcoming, we all go on with our lives.

But if I ever get challenged at some distant date, I can point to my efforts to defuse the situation.



just take this to newspaper editor....is not necessary here

The fact is that awolowo thought he could poke igbo without consequences by killing over 3 million innocent children.....he died regretting his action.

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by proffemi: 12:54pm On Jul 30, 2018
For those incapable of figuring out my rationale for opening the thread, I'll lay it out for you.

When one reads about ritual killings on Nairaland, there unfortunately tend to be Yorubas involved. One cannot blame the tribalists for coming out, knife-in-hand. Likewise, when you read about drug-related crimes, there are also likely to be Igbos involved. Again, one can't stop the "bloodbath" of posts. We can (at least, I can) turn a blind eye to that. I also generally give tribalism a wide berth on posts in partisan politics.

But when you have posts on disasters or human suffering, and tribalism rears up its ugly head, to me, it reveals hatred that has eaten so deeply into souls as to make the posters dangerous to themselves and others. I do not think we should support or even condone tribal posts on such threads.

Our differences are clear, and can be either a source of strength to this country, or our Waterloo. To allow hatred to fester is to court disaster.

And for the avoidance of doubt, I am 100% in support of Biafra, if that is what the majority of Igbos want. The fact that Igbos have not been able to actualize the dream (again: IF THIS IS INDEED WHAT THE MAJORITY OF IGBOS WANT) has less to do with Yorubas, and alot more to do with a need for ndi'gbo to re-write their political playbook.

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Re: Ndi'gbo and Yoruba Thought Leaders On Nairaland, Please Rein In Your Kinsmen by oohlife: 12:54pm On Jul 30, 2018
op you're even worst,you address hatred of another tribe but turn a blind eye towards your own tribe,in your attempt to address the issue of tribalism and hatred you ended up as promoter of it,not that am supporting it but is your tribe free to hate and another not?

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