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Re: Wole Soyinka: Obasanjo Knelt Down For Atiku In 2003 by degamemaster(m): 10:26am On Aug 03, 2018
Yoruba's fighting each other. I'm out of here mehn.



But come to think of it, why must it be Southerners bringing down fellow Southerners?


OBJ is not a perfect person but calling him out like this would embolden the terrorists from the caliphate who have made themselves our sworn enemies.



People should stop attacking each other in the South.

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Re: Wole Soyinka: Obasanjo Knelt Down For Atiku In 2003 by Tadeus(m): 10:31am On Aug 03, 2018
iammo:
Yoruba destroying yorubas since the days of awolowo and akintola undecided , Yoruba ronu, its funny how tinubu an ally of MKO is teaming up with same Buhari that got the juiciest apointement under abacha, while throwing jabs at obasanjo. Same obasanjo that gave back power to shagari a man from sokoto through democracy and Buhari and co(abacha and Ibb) dethroned through coup de tat, same obasanjo that came back home to confront abacha on MKO's denial to power when Buhari conveniently choose to keep quiet and become PTDF chairman, same obasanjo that was imprisoned while wole Soyinka was in exile. Professor Soyinka, northern youth are mocking you, they see you as someone who disrespect his own to promote others, no matter what they never disrespect their own, they may disagree but never ridicule their own

Sensible comment. You did your research well . I could stil recollect vividly how this prof mislead us to vote for this mumu change simply bcoz he was close to amechi den. Everybody knows wat it means to be close to cheerful giver(amechi). I wil pick obj over prof coz obj is a true leader

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Re: Wole Soyinka: Obasanjo Knelt Down For Atiku In 2003 by adeyak83(m): 10:43am On Aug 03, 2018
SarakiBukola:


Only a mentally handicapped person would support his tribesmen even when they commit crime.

Yoruba are more intelligent than that. That's why they are high achievers

Keep your advice for your people with their caste system.

Gbam
Re: Wole Soyinka: Obasanjo Knelt Down For Atiku In 2003 by veraponpo(m): 10:51am On Aug 03, 2018
iammo:
Yoruba destroying yorubas since the days of awolowo and akintola undecided , Yoruba ronu, its funny how tinubu an ally of MKO is teaming up with same Buhari that got the juiciest apointement under abacha, while throwing jabs at obasanjo. Same obasanjo that gave back power to shagari a man from sokoto through democracy and Buhari and co(abacha and Ibb) dethroned through coup de tat, same obasanjo that came back home to confront abacha on MKO's denial to power when Buhari conveniently choose to keep quiet and become PTDF chairman, same obasanjo that was imprisoned while wole Soyinka was in exile. Professor Soyinka, northern youth are mocking you, they see you as someone who disrespect his own to promote others, no matter what they never disrespect their own, they may disagree but never ridicule their own

Please stop playing politics of tribalism and ethnicity. What is the usefulness of Obasanjo to Yoruba or humanity?

A man that cannot be mentioned for any good thing.

We know what Awolowo did.

We know what Akintola did

We know what Soyinka did- he brought j=honour to us as a race ( black nation), continent ( Africa), tribe ( Yoruba) , country ( Nigeria).

In fact, we can point to few things that Tinubu did

What did Obasanjo do for Yoruba?

Buhari is more useful than Obasanjo.

Somebodey that oversaw the killing of our Cicero ( Bola Ige)

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Re: Wole Soyinka: Obasanjo Knelt Down For Atiku In 2003 by iammo(m): 11:02am On Aug 03, 2018
veraponpo:


Please stop playing politics of tribalism and ethnicity. What is the usefulness of Obasanjo to Yoruba or humanity?

A man that cannot be mentioned for any good thing.

We know what Awolowo did.

We know what Akintola did

We know what Soyinka did- he brought j=honour to us as a race ( black nation), continent ( Africa), tribe ( Yoruba) , country ( Nigeria).

In fact, we can point to few things that Tinubu did

What did Obasanjo do for Yoruba?

Buhari is more useful than Obasanjo.

Somebodey that oversaw the killing of our Cicero ( Bola Ige)

I see most of you are hell bent on us tarnishing our ownself, am sure another disgruntled man would release a memoir how tinubu is the bigest thief in Lagos, they would not stop there they would reduce all Yoruba politician to thieves. So should we need to negotiate anything for the Yoruba nation all our delegates would be seen as criminals, while the real northern crook would become saints

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Re: Wole Soyinka: Obasanjo Knelt Down For Atiku In 2003 by sweetgala(m): 11:03am On Aug 03, 2018
iammo:
Yoruba destroying yorubas since the days of awolowo and akintola undecided , Yoruba ronu, its funny how tinubu an ally of MKO is teaming up with same Buhari that got the juiciest apointement under abacha, while throwing jabs at obasanjo. Same obasanjo that gave back power to shagari a man from sokoto through democracy and Buhari and co(abacha and Ibb) dethroned through coup de tat, same obasanjo that came back home to confront abacha on MKO's denial to power when Buhari conveniently choose to keep quiet and become PTDF chairman, same obasanjo that was imprisoned while wole Soyinka was in exile. Professor Soyinka, northern youth are mocking you, they see you as someone who disrespect his own to promote others, no matter what they never disrespect their own, they may disagree but never ridicule their own

You are obviously not conversant with facts and history; You also lack a clear understanding of Yoruba people and culture. A Yoruba man should never call white black just to serve a purpose. We don't lie to ourselves about the reality of things, we confront what is not right irrespective of whose ox is gored.

I'll now correct some errors on your part

1 - Akintola and Awolowo had a disagreement over principles aggrevated by their supporters, my grandfather was a major power broker and revered by both men, he honourably resigned during the fracas.

2 - It is known fact OBJ never wanted to be president after Muritala was assassinated, he famously ran to the marina and was only convinced by TY Danjuma and co; the fact he gave democracy a chance was in-line with an agreement he had with President Carter. NPNs Shagari won the election even thou there were concerns about the census distribution, NPN was under the leadership of Pa Akinloye and had such political giants like Fani-Kayode, Adeyinka Adebayo, Mbadiwe and even formed an alliance with Ojukwu.

3 - It is a known fact that the coup that brought Buhari/ Idiagbon to power was orchestrated and delivered by IBB, Abacha et al, Buhari just happened to be an ideal face. Several military biographies of those active at the time have confirmed this, once IBB and Abacha saw he wasn't going to play ball he was disposed of.

4 - Buhari was federal commissioner for Petroleum and Natural Resources under OBJ and was known to have done a good job, even when IBB made a claim of the $2.8B missing that Fela famously sang about a panel led by renown Justice Irekefe found it to be fictitious slander.

5 - You must now know that the northern youth are awakening out of a deep lul, the years of blind followership is over, Buhari and APC may secure 2019 but the days of 12million votes are surely over. In recent years the most vocal critics of PMB have been the Arewa consultative forum and the Arewa youth congress.

I like Buhari and had great hope but the man has been demystified he should have never contested to be president that position would rob any man of whatever dignity he has left. Gowon and Shagari were smart they left and never looked back.

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Re: Wole Soyinka: Obasanjo Knelt Down For Atiku In 2003 by sweetgala(m): 11:05am On Aug 03, 2018
iammo:


I see most of you are hell bent on us tarnishing our ownself, am sure another disgruntled man would release a memoir how tinubu is the bigest thief in Lagos, they would not stop there they would reduce all Yoruba politician to thieves. So should we need to negotiate anything for the Yoruba nation all our delegates would be seen as criminals, while the real northern crook would become saints

A lie should not be told to protect the truth, we come to equity with clean hands. The Nigeria of tomorrow needs people we can trust even if all we have are fallible humans.
Re: Wole Soyinka: Obasanjo Knelt Down For Atiku In 2003 by Andy2274: 11:07am On Aug 03, 2018
We know and agreed that OBJ did some wrong deals that put the country where we are today. Every man has his own black spots. Also remember that the secret cults we have in our higher institutions today started from you and your friends. So if you are criticizing do it small small.

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Re: Wole Soyinka: Obasanjo Knelt Down For Atiku In 2003 by desgiezd(m): 11:09am On Aug 03, 2018
iammo:
Yoruba destroying yorubas since the days of awolowo and akintola undecided , Yoruba ronu, its funny how tinubu an ally of MKO is teaming up with same Buhari that got the juiciest apointement under abacha, while throwing jabs at obasanjo. Same obasanjo that gave back power to shagari a man from sokoto through democracy and Buhari and co(abacha and Ibb) dethroned through coup de tat, same obasanjo that came back home to confront abacha on MKO's denial to power when Buhari conveniently choose to keep quiet and become PTDF chairman, same obasanjo that was imprisoned while wole Soyinka was in exile. Professor Soyinka, northern youth are mocking you, they see you as someone who disrespect his own to promote others, no matter what they never disrespect their own, they may disagree but never ridicule their own

Are you talking of the same Obasanjo that we all know? How did he confront Abacha for not relinquishing power to MKO? The same Obasanjo that hated MKO, Fela and Awolowo with passion because he didn't want anyone to be greater than him. The same Obasanjo that was happy that MKO was not allowed to be president.

Pls get your facts right

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Re: Wole Soyinka: Obasanjo Knelt Down For Atiku In 2003 by iammo(m): 11:10am On Aug 03, 2018
sweetgala:


You are obviously not conversant with facts and history; You also lack a clear understanding of Yoruba people and culture. A Yoruba man should never call white black just to serve a purpose. We don't lie to ourselves about the reality of things, we confront what is not right irrespective of whose ox is gored.

I'll no correct some errors on your part

1 - Akintola and Awolowo had a disagreement over principles aggravated by their supporters, my grandfather was a major power broker and revered by both men, he honourably resigned after officially sacking Akintola.

2 - It is known fact OBJ never wanted to be president after Muritala was assassinated, he famously ran to the marina and was only convinced by TY Danjuma and co; the fact he gave democracy a chance was in-line with an agreement he had with Pres Carter. NPNs Shagari won the election even thou there were concerns about the census distribution, NPN was under the leadership of Pa Akinloye and has such political giants like Fani-Kayode, Adeyinka Adebayo, Mbadiwe and even formed an alliance with Ojukwu.

3 - It is a known fact that the coup that brought Buhari/ Idiagbon to power was orchestrated and delivered by IBB, Abacha et al, Buhari just happened to be an ideal face. Several military biographies of those active at the time have confirmed this, once IBB and Abacha saw he wasn't going to play ball he was disposed of.

4 - Buhari was federal commissioner for Petroleum and Natural Resources under OBJ and was known to have done a good job, even when IBB made a claim of the $2.8B missing that Fela famously sang about a panel led by renown Justice Irekefe found it to be fictitious slander.

5 - You must now know that the northern youth are awakening out of a deep lul, the years of blind followership is over, Buhari and APC may secure 2019 but the days of 12million votes are surely over. In recent years the most vocal critics of PMB have been the Arewa consultative forum and the Arewa youth congress.

I like Buhari and had great hope but the man has been demystified he should have never contested to be president that position would rob any man of whatever dignity he has left. Gowon and Shagari were smart they left and never looked back.

I must say you are well informed and came with a good arguement, unlike the other riffrafs attacking me. But I still insist wole Soyinka going this far would only continue to demarket us as Yoruba, just when they are calling us cowards and two faced people prof is also adding this
Re: Wole Soyinka: Obasanjo Knelt Down For Atiku In 2003 by Born2Breed(f): 11:13am On Aug 03, 2018
OBJ is someone that must be avoided politically at all cost.
He is not only a betrayer but self centered old hat, who will never do anything That Won't favour him.
His like is in Aso rock right now ruining things.
Re: Wole Soyinka: Obasanjo Knelt Down For Atiku In 2003 by Caseless: 11:23am On Aug 03, 2018
OBJ is an ibo man now.

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Re: Wole Soyinka: Obasanjo Knelt Down For Atiku In 2003 by kyutepanda(f): 11:24am On Aug 03, 2018
when the truth needs to be said it should be said jor, you can't cos you respect someone you would now toy with other people's future

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Re: Wole Soyinka: Obasanjo Knelt Down For Atiku In 2003 by iammo(m): 11:26am On Aug 03, 2018
desgiezd:


Are you talking of the same Obasanjo that we all know? How did he confront Abacha for not relinquishing power to MKO? The same Obasanjo that hated MKO, Fela and Awolowo with passion because he didn't want anyone to be greater than him. The same Obasanjo that was happy that MKO was not allowed to be president.

Pls get your facts right

Common now? Gen yaradua, and obj actively spoke against abacha. The famous ITT and RCN telephone contract that gave MKO his major break was facilitated by OBJ, MKO consulted OBJ before starting his aspiration
Re: Wole Soyinka: Obasanjo Knelt Down For Atiku In 2003 by Newmanluckyman(m): 11:29am On Aug 03, 2018
...why is it that south westners are not united?
Re: Wole Soyinka: Obasanjo Knelt Down For Atiku In 2003 by olajizz01(m): 11:30am On Aug 03, 2018
iammo:


Mr saraki wanna be, speak the truth always but never use your "truth" as a weapon to destroy others. In case you don't know, tarnishing obasanjo's person would not reduce anything to him, he still has his foreign contact intact, if the north and south still want to forge a deal he might still be among the delegates, why can't wole soyinka contact him directly or through egba kings and elders to thrash out differences. They would still use a Yoruba man to cut tinubu to size, but I believe we can do better
OBJ is not the type of person you can speak on behalf,Yoruba elder's forum summoned him to meeting during his regime just to recognise June 12,this useless man refused to answer them. Just 4get about him,he is a useless being.

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Re: Wole Soyinka: Obasanjo Knelt Down For Atiku In 2003 by surgical: 11:41am On Aug 03, 2018
iammo:


Ibadan mo ti wa padi mi, I know my agbole very well, counter my arguement don't shut me up sir
you don't dignify a fool with a response, all APC supporters always result to insult and absuses, because of their shallowness.

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Re: Wole Soyinka: Obasanjo Knelt Down For Atiku In 2003 by princesweetman2(m): 11:42am On Aug 03, 2018
sarrki:
Omo Ibo shut up

Flat headed pig from the lost tribe of Jews are angry at d fact dat we didn't move an inch wen karma befall wat Patrick Chukwuma kaduna nzeogwu did

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Re: Wole Soyinka: Obasanjo Knelt Down For Atiku In 2003 by Nobody: 12:02pm On Aug 03, 2018
iammo:
Yoruba destroying yorubas since the days of awolowo and akintola undecided , Yoruba ronu, its funny how tinubu an ally of MKO is teaming up with same Buhari that got the juiciest apointement under abacha, while throwing jabs at obasanjo. Same obasanjo that gave back power to shagari a man from sokoto through democracy and Buhari and co(abacha and Ibb) dethroned through coup de tat, same obasanjo that came back home to confront abacha on MKO's denial to power when Buhari conveniently choose to keep quiet and become PTDF chairman, same obasanjo that was imprisoned while wole Soyinka was in exile. Professor Soyinka, northern youth are mocking you, they see you as someone who disrespect his own to promote others, no matter what they never disrespect their own, they may disagree but never ridicule their own
Wetin this one dey yarn sef?So wole Soyinka should belaud obasanjo because he is his tribesman and overlook the atrocities he has committed.Haba! that is the height of hypocrisy

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Re: Wole Soyinka: Obasanjo Knelt Down For Atiku In 2003 by LZAA: 12:05pm On Aug 03, 2018
BrownRoofRep:
Not surprised a bit.
They are always on their knees. grin

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Re: Wole Soyinka: Obasanjo Knelt Down For Atiku In 2003 by kollinpowel(m): 12:06pm On Aug 03, 2018
dPriv:



Sensible comment.
my brother, A Yoruba man didn't just start that , it started when the Yoruba man decides to turn his back on is own people at the time of need, Obasanjo was never and has never been useful to the Yoruba race.

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Re: Wole Soyinka: Obasanjo Knelt Down For Atiku In 2003 by nuesmann(m): 12:10pm On Aug 03, 2018
iammo:
Yoruba destroying yorubas since the days of awolowo and akintola undecided , Yoruba ronu, its funny how tinubu an ally of MKO is teaming up with same Buhari that got the juiciest apointement under abacha, while throwing jabs at obasanjo. Same obasanjo that gave back power to shagari a man from sokoto through democracy and Buhari and co(abacha and Ibb) dethroned through coup de tat, same obasanjo that came back home to confront abacha on MKO's denial to power when Buhari conveniently choose to keep quiet and become PTDF chairman, same obasanjo that was imprisoned while wole Soyinka was in exile. Professor Soyinka, northern youth are mocking you, they see you as someone who disrespect his own to promote others, no matter what they never disrespect their own, they may disagree but never ridicule their own
SHOULD WE NOW SHY AWAY FROM THE TRUTH BECAUSE OF TRIBALISM.DOING THAT HASNT HELPED US IN THE PAST BROTHER

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Re: Wole Soyinka: Obasanjo Knelt Down For Atiku In 2003 by whirlwind7(m): 12:27pm On Aug 03, 2018
iammo:
Yoruba destroying yorubas since the days of awolowo and akintola undecided , Yoruba ronu, its funny how tinubu an ally of MKO is teaming up with same Buhari that got the juiciest apointement under abacha, while throwing jabs at obasanjo. Same obasanjo that gave back power to shagari a man from sokoto through democracy and Buhari and co(abacha and Ibb) dethroned through coup de tat, same obasanjo that came back home to confront abacha on MKO's denial to power when Buhari conveniently choose to keep quiet and become PTDF chairman, same obasanjo that was imprisoned while wole Soyinka was in exile. Professor Soyinka, northern youth are mocking you, they see you as someone who disrespect his own to promote others, no matter what they never disrespect their own, they may disagree but never ridicule their own


Not just Yorubas. This is a trait common among Southerners.
Perhaps its due to too much enlightenment, education or western influence.

But you know what? In a homogeneous state, such behaviours usually leads to the best hands emerging to handle the affairs of state. In a heterogeneous state such as Nigeria, it is a liability.

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Re: Wole Soyinka: Obasanjo Knelt Down For Atiku In 2003 by fredylee: 12:37pm On Aug 03, 2018
iammo:
Yoruba destroying yorubas since the days of awolowo and akintola undecided , Yoruba ronu, its funny how tinubu an ally of MKO is teaming up with same Buhari that got the juiciest apointement under abacha, while throwing jabs at obasanjo. Same obasanjo that gave back power to shagari a man from sokoto through democracy and Buhari and co(abacha and Ibb) dethroned through coup de tat, same obasanjo that came back home to confront abacha on MKO's denial to power when Buhari conveniently choose to keep quiet and become PTDF chairman, same obasanjo that was imprisoned while wole Soyinka was in exile. Professor Soyinka, northern youth are mocking you, they see you as someone who disrespect his own to promote others, no matter what they never disrespect their own, they may disagree but never ridicule their own

This is not about tribe or sentiments. Look at the criticism objectively. Your likes are the issues threatening Nigeria's survival as a nation. Wole Soyinka is too gifted intellectually to tow the line your propose.

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Re: Wole Soyinka: Obasanjo Knelt Down For Atiku In 2003 by fredylee: 12:40pm On Aug 03, 2018
iammo:


I must say you are well informed and came with a good arguement, unlike the other riffrafs attacking me. But I still insist wole Soyinka going this far would only continue to demarket us as Yoruba, just when they are calling us cowards and two faced people prof is also adding this

This is not about Yoruba my friend! It is about the truth! Stop this backwardness.
Re: Wole Soyinka: Obasanjo Knelt Down For Atiku In 2003 by Nobody: 12:42pm On Aug 03, 2018
iammo:
Yoruba destroying yorubas since the days of awolowo and akintola undecided , Yoruba ronu, its funny how tinubu an ally of MKO is teaming up with same Buhari that got the juiciest apointement under abacha, while throwing jabs at obasanjo. Same obasanjo that gave back power to shagari a man from sokoto through democracy and Buhari and co(abacha and Ibb) dethroned through coup de tat, same obasanjo that came back home to confront abacha on MKO's denial to power when Buhari conveniently choose to keep quiet and become PTDF chairman, same obasanjo that was imprisoned while wole Soyinka was in exile. Professor Soyinka, northern youth are mocking you, they see you as someone who disrespect his own to promote others, no matter what they never disrespect their own, they may disagree but never ridicule their own
shut the fu...up you this ethnic bigot. So,because he should not tell the truth because he belongs to the same ethnic background to the subject.na wa 4 you. O.

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Re: Wole Soyinka: Obasanjo Knelt Down For Atiku In 2003 by Lovelife433(m): 12:55pm On Aug 03, 2018
tomakint:
Our own Baroka, Oluwole Soyinka drops the bombshell and I just hope it won't further dent the public image of Obasanjo more as the jester he is. Soyinka really prepared himself for this like he promised he will do during the M.K.O Abiola's posthumous GCFR award
our baroka, is there any sense in those rubish u just type? Pls go get sense and stop commenting on what u dont no off. Noncence.
Re: Wole Soyinka: Obasanjo Knelt Down For Atiku In 2003 by mysteryman2014: 12:59pm On Aug 03, 2018
iammo:
Yoruba destroying yorubas since the days of awolowo and akintola undecided , Yoruba ronu, its funny how tinubu an ally of MKO is teaming up with same Buhari that got the juiciest apointement under abacha, while throwing jabs at obasanjo. Same obasanjo that gave back power to shagari a man from sokoto through democracy and Buhari and co(abacha and Ibb) dethroned through coup de tat, same obasanjo that came back home to confront abacha on MKO's denial to power when Buhari conveniently choose to keep quiet and become PTDF chairman, same obasanjo that was imprisoned while wole Soyinka was in exile. Professor Soyinka, northern youth are mocking you, they see you as someone who disrespect his own to promote others, no matter what they never disrespect their own, they may disagree but never ridicule their own

Reason why there is much development in SW, as they tell you the home truth and never support evil at the detriment of the society.

Imagine the outcome of WS supporting the 3rd term agenda of OBJ just because he is Yoruba man.
Re: Wole Soyinka: Obasanjo Knelt Down For Atiku In 2003 by okwuvic(m): 1:12pm On Aug 03, 2018
If there is any tribe that should respect the igbos more in Nigeria; it should be the yorubas. How I wish they can respect that and leave tribalism and bowing and kneeling down before the northerners. 1966 coup plotters were majorly Igbos led by Chukwuma Nzeogwu. Their aim was never to install an Igbo president but to release Chief Obafemi Awolowo from Calabar prison and make him Head of State. If that coup was successful Nigeria I am sure would have been a better place to live in.

Can you imagine an elder statesman bowing and kneeling because of power and money; Selling his brothers into the slavery we are suffering today. No job, no security, no light, no water, herdsmen terrorism e.t.c.
Re: Wole Soyinka: Obasanjo Knelt Down For Atiku In 2003 by kenex4ever(m): 1:17pm On Aug 03, 2018
sarrki:



Omo Ibo shut up
tribalized piece of shit.
Re: Wole Soyinka: Obasanjo Knelt Down For Atiku In 2003 by yembet(f): 1:42pm On Aug 03, 2018
Why are our politicians, greedy and so desperate?
If they have the interest of te masses in their heart, it could have been better, but they are interested in looting and acquiring, more wealth.
As high chief, a reputable soldier, a three term ex- president of the Republic of Nigeria, to have knelt down down , fall so low, before Atiku, because, he wanted to go for a third teRM as as the President,was a disgrace to himself, his family and his associates.
I do respect him, as an elderly state man that , he is suppose to be, but he needs to go and retire and be an adviser to the younger generation.
Re: Wole Soyinka: Obasanjo Knelt Down For Atiku In 2003 by deji17: 1:51pm On Aug 03, 2018
iammo:
Yoruba destroying yorubas since the days of awolowo and akintola undecided , Yoruba ronu, its funny how tinubu an ally of MKO is teaming up with same Buhari that got the juiciest apointement under abacha, while throwing jabs at obasanjo. Same obasanjo that gave back power to shagari a man from sokoto through democracy and Buhari and co(abacha and Ibb) dethroned through coup de tat, same obasanjo that came back home to confront abacha on MKO's denial to power when Buhari conveniently choose to keep quiet and become PTDF chairman, same obasanjo that was imprisoned while wole Soyinka was in exile. Professor Soyinka, northern youth are mocking you, they see you as someone who disrespect his own to promote others, no matter what they never disrespect their own, they may disagree but never ridicule their own. Ti eyan ba ta ara ile e lopo to ba di owon ko ni ri ra
Jargon. All the Northerners that have been abusing Buhari are Yorubas abi? We are talking Nigeria politics you are writing gibberish. Everyone will be assessed base on their performance. If you steal then you are a thief.

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