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6000 Or 6million Or 60 Million? by Deo1986(m): 5:54pm On Aug 10, 2018
For enlightened minds please, man's existence on earth according to the Bible is a little above 6000 years counting from Adam. Is it a fact, is it logical? Did life begin with Adam? Should the Bible account of Creation be taken literally or figuratively?
Re: 6000 Or 6million Or 60 Million? by enilove(m): 6:15pm On Aug 10, 2018
Deo1986:
For enlightened minds please, man's existence on earth according to the Bible is a little above 6000 years counting from Adam. Is it a fact, is it logical? Did life begin with Adam? Should the Bible account of Creation be taken literally or figuratively?

The Biblical account of Adam as the first man and years of man's existence are true and not figurative . The same goes with the biblical creations of the earth.

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Re: 6000 Or 6million Or 60 Million? by Deo1986(m): 6:30pm On Aug 10, 2018
enilove:


The Biblical account of Adam as the first man and years of man's existence are true and not figurative . The same goes with the biblical creations of the earth.



Did I detect sarcasm in your comment? So man's existence on planet earth is just 6000 years?
Re: 6000 Or 6million Or 60 Million? by obinna58(m): 7:07pm On Aug 10, 2018
enilove:


The Biblical account of Adam as the first man and years of man's existence are true and not figurative . The same goes with the biblical creations of the earth.



Ishi-aki grin
Shut up

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Re: 6000 Or 6million Or 60 Million? by enilove(m): 7:31pm On Aug 10, 2018
Deo1986:
Did I detect sarcasm in your comment? So man's existence on planet earth is just 6000 years?

Was your questions sarcastic?

I believe the Bible .
Re: 6000 Or 6million Or 60 Million? by enilove(m): 7:36pm On Aug 10, 2018
obinna58:
Ishi-aki grin Shut up
Abuse does not not edify.
Re: 6000 Or 6million Or 60 Million? by obinna58(m): 8:13pm On Aug 10, 2018
enilove:


Abuse does not not edify.
Get your sense back first

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Re: 6000 Or 6million Or 60 Million? by enilove(m): 8:34pm On Aug 10, 2018
obinna58:

Get your sense back first

Why can't you make any meaningful contribution to the post other than abuse , if you think you are more sensible?
Re: 6000 Or 6million Or 60 Million? by LastDays777: 8:59pm On Aug 10, 2018
obinna58:

Get your sense back first

Prof. Obi we are still waiting for your contribution.
Re: 6000 Or 6million Or 60 Million? by LastDays777: 9:00pm On Aug 10, 2018
Deo1986:
Did I detect sarcasm in your comment? So man's existence on planet earth is just 6000 years?

I honestly believe its within 6000 only. What's your view sir
Re: 6000 Or 6million Or 60 Million? by festwiz(m): 10:01pm On Aug 10, 2018
Carbon dating shows fossils as old as 65million years old. Also, if you studied biology (basic level) you'd know the evolution of man.

Kindly read on evolution and enlighten yourself.

Also, according to a theist here, it's 6000 years. That doesn't explain Chinese records that go back 5000 years.

https://www.google.com.ng/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/10173291/5000-year-old-Chinese-characters-discovered.html&ved=2ahUKEwjPy9znsOPcAhWOyaQKHaxKBrUQFjAOegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw3jZJnR9gIaZX3gzSF3fr_i

#peace

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Re: 6000 Or 6million Or 60 Million? by enilove(m): 10:36pm On Aug 10, 2018
LastDays777:

I honestly believe its within 6000 only. What's your view sir
Sir , that is my belief also.

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Re: 6000 Or 6million Or 60 Million? by enilove(m): 10:36pm On Aug 10, 2018
LastDays777:

I honestly believe its within 6000 only. What's your view sir
Sir , that is my belief also.
Re: 6000 Or 6million Or 60 Million? by johnhood(m): 10:48pm On Aug 10, 2018
Please think something else.
Re: 6000 Or 6million Or 60 Million? by obinna58(m): 11:57am On Aug 11, 2018
LastDays777:


Prof. Obi we are still waiting for your contribution.
Fossil fuel takes millions of year to form, you're talking about earth, and yet still demand contribution, people struggle and spend their time, money doing experiments in order to improve humanity while religious people fold their hands claiming that their fairly tale book(composed by ancient people lacking intellectual knowledge) knows all.

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Re: 6000 Or 6million Or 60 Million? by dalaman: 12:19pm On Aug 11, 2018
enilove:


Sir , that is my belief also.

Stop telling us what you believe. Just show us conclusive and scientific evidence that supports your position. Beliefs are just what they are, beliefs, they have nothing at all to do with reality.

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Re: 6000 Or 6million Or 60 Million? by enilove(m): 12:59pm On Aug 11, 2018
dalaman:


Stop telling us what you believe. Just show us conclusive and scientific evidence that supports your position. Beliefs are just what they are, beliefs, they have nothing at all to do with reality.

How will science tell you conclusively the years man have been existing on earth.

Don't you realise that science is a trial and error . Science is nothing but researches to discover what is in existence.

Was the earth created by science that I should rely on its findings instead of God's words ?

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Re: 6000 Or 6million Or 60 Million? by dalaman: 1:28pm On Aug 11, 2018
enilove:


How will science tell you conclusively the years man have been existing on earth.

Don't you realise that science is a trial and error . Science is nothing but researches to discover what is in existence.

Was the earth created by science that I should rely on its findings instead of God's words ?



Your ability to interact with me on this platform despite the fact that we live in 2 different continents is as a result of science. Science works, your religion which is nothing but superstition doesn't.
So when where and how did any God told you that the Bible is his word? When did any God appear to you and personally told you that? Men wrote down stories and told you that these stories are words of God and you believed without ANY evidence. Which evidence was provided to you before you believed that the Bible is the word of God? Why not the Koran or the Hindu Verdes? After all billions of people believe that the Koran and Hindu verdes are the words of God as well.

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Re: 6000 Or 6million Or 60 Million? by enilove(m): 3:06pm On Aug 11, 2018
dalaman:


Your ability to interact with me on this platform despite the fact that we live in 2 different continents is as a result of science. Science works, your religion which is nothing but superstition doesn't.
So when where and how did any God told you that the Bible is his word? When did any God appear to you and personally told you that? Men wrote down stories and told you that these stories are words of God and you believed without ANY evidence. Which evidence was provided to you before you believed that the Bible is the word of God? Why not the Koran or the Hindu Verdes? After all billions of people believe that the Koran and Hindu verdes are the words of God as well.


You wouldn't have been able to communicate with me , even with the aid of science if there is no breathe of life in you , which science can never discover or produced.

Another reason you can interact with me is the presence of radio active wave which science did not create .

I believe the Bible for many reasons and one of which is this :

Exodus 14:15-18,21-22 KJV
And the Lord said unto Moses, Wherefore criest thou unto me? speak unto the children of Israel, that they go forward: [16] But lift thou up thy rod, and stretch out thine hand over the sea, and divide it: and the children of Israel shall go on dry ground through the midst of the sea. [17] And I, behold, I will harden the hearts of the Egyptians, and they shall follow them: and I will get me honour upon Pharaoh, and upon all his host, upon his chariots, and upon his horsemen. [18] And the Egyptians shall know that I am the Lord , when I have gotten me honour upon Pharaoh, upon his chariots, and upon his horsemen. [21] And Moses stretched out his hand over the sea; and the Lord caused the sea to go back by a strong east wind all that night, and made the sea dry land , and the waters were divided. [22] And the children of Israel went into the midst of the sea upon the dry ground : and the waters were a wall unto them on their right hand, and on their left.

THE EGYPTIANS ARE AWARE OF THE OCCURRENCE OF THIS EVENT AS WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE AND HAVE NEVER DENIED IT.

WHO COULD DIVIDE A SEA , IF NOT ITS CREATOR . IT IS NOT IN HISTORY THAT THIS KIND DOES HAPPENS AT TIME , WHICH WOULD HAVE MADE ONE TO BELIEVE IT WAS A COINCIDENCE .

What about the BLOOD which science cannot produce . If there is shortage of blood in a man's body , unless a matching blood is transfused into that body , there is no other remedy than death. Why can't science find solution to this critical issue of life?
Re: 6000 Or 6million Or 60 Million? by dalaman: 3:17pm On Aug 11, 2018
enilove:



You wouldn't have been able to communicate with me , even with the aid of science if there is no breathe of life in you , which science can never discover or produced.

Another reason you can interact with me is the presence of radio active wave which science did not create .

I believe the Bible for many reasons and one of which is this :

Exodus 14:15-18,21-22 KJV
And the Lord said unto Moses, Wherefore criest thou unto me? speak unto the children of Israel, that they go forward: [16] But lift thou up thy rod, and stretch out thine hand over the sea, and divide it: and the children of Israel shall go on dry ground through the midst of the sea. [17] And I, behold, I will harden the hearts of the Egyptians, and they shall follow them: and I will get me honour upon Pharaoh, and upon all his host, upon his chariots, and upon his horsemen. [18] And the Egyptians shall know that I am the Lord , when I have gotten me honour upon Pharaoh, upon his chariots, and upon his horsemen. [21] And Moses stretched out his hand over the sea; and the Lord caused the sea to go back by a strong east wind all that night, and made the sea dry land , and the waters were divided. [22] And the children of Israel went into the midst of the sea upon the dry ground : and the waters were a wall unto them on their right hand, and on their left.

THE EGYPTIANS ARE AWARE OF THE OCCURRENCE OF THIS EVENT AS WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE AND HAVE NEVER DENIED IT.

WHO COULD DIVIDE A SEA , IF NOT ITS CREATOR . IT IS NOT IN HISTORY THAT THIS KIND DOES HAPPENS AT TIME , WHICH WOULD HAVE MADE ONE TO BELIEVE IT WAS A COINCIDENCE .

What about the BLOOD which science cannot produce . If there is shortage of blood in a man's body , unless a matching blood is transfused into that body , there is no other remedy than death. Why can't science find solution to this critical issue of life?

What is this nonsense. Where you there when these events happened? The Egyptians have NO record of the Isrealiets ever enslaved in Egypt. They don't have the records anywhere. If you have any Egyptian record stating that the Jews were ever enslaved in Egypt at anytime bring it forward. Historically the biblical story about Egypt remains a myth.

No sea was divided, because the exodus is non historical. It remains so a Hebrew mythology that has NO evidence to support it.

I asked you to tell me how you know that the Bible is not the words of men. When did any God appear to you and told you that the Bible is his word? If you were born in a society that accepts Islam will you not be telling us that the Koran is the word of Allah? Keep living inside your bubble.

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Re: 6000 Or 6million Or 60 Million? by bloodofthelamb(m): 3:18pm On Aug 11, 2018
dalaman:


Your ability to interact with me on this platform despite the fact that we live in 2 different continents is as a result of science. Science works, your religion which is nothing but superstition doesn't.
So when where and how did any God told you that the Bible is his word? When did any God appear to you and personally told you that? Men wrote down stories and told you that these stories are words of God and you believed without ANY evidence. Which evidence was provided to you before you believed that the Bible is the word of God? Why not the Koran or the Hindu Verdes? After all billions of people believe that the Koran and Hindu verdes are the words of God as well.

Our ability to chat together despite we being in different location is as a result of God. God put this things in place long time ago. Man(science) only discovered how it works.

Even so, there is so many things that God has set up from the beginning yet to be discovered by men.

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Re: 6000 Or 6million Or 60 Million? by dalaman: 3:20pm On Aug 11, 2018
bloodofthelamb:


Our ability to chat together despite we being in different location is as a result of God. God put this things in place longer, man(science) only discovered how it works.

Even so, there is so many things that God has set up from the beginning yet to be discovered by men.

Our ability to chat in different locations is as a result of Aliens. Aliens put things in order, science only discovered how it works. There are many things set up by aliens yet to be discovered by men.
Re: 6000 Or 6million Or 60 Million? by enilove(m): 4:40pm On Aug 11, 2018
dalaman:


What is this nonsense. Where you there when these events happened? The Egyptians have NO record of the Isrealiets ever enslaved in Egypt. They don't have the records anywhere. If you have any Egyptian record stating that the Jews were ever enslaved in Egypt at anytime bring it forward. Historically the biblical story about Egypt remains a myth.

No sea was divided, because the exodus is non historical. It remains so a Hebrew mythology that has NO evidence to support it.

I asked you to tell me how you know that the Bible is not the words of men. When did any God appear to you and told you that the Bible is his word? If you were born in a society that accepts Islam will you not be telling us that the Koran is the word of Allah? Keep living inside your bubble.

What is a myth ?

Tourists around the world going to Egypt are always shown the remains of the houses the Israelites lived in those days in the Land of Goshen.
Many foreign TV documentary programs have show this events and remains of the evidences of the stay of Israelites in Egypt .

This have been written in the Bible for over 2,000 years ago . This is not a hidden document . Why has no one in Egypt denied its truth , especially when those things said about the Egyptians are not good.
Israelites know they lived in Egypt and the Egyptians know as well. It is a fact.

I was a Muslim with my documents bearing Muslim name. I have not changed it.

If you are a Yoruba man , you would have heard of this comedian Ghenga Adeboye , who died and came back to life after 2 days or thereabout . He said he went to heaven and was told to return and bring his Bible and a hymn book. Which is a parable to signify that Christianity is the only way. Why ? The reason is that most of his records he would try to tell us we are serving the same God , but he was a good christian.

As I said earlier , can science produce blood ? Can it produce its own kind of FLESH without taking from already existing cells , that is , to clone it ?

I had an injury when I was 7 years which doctors could not cure but a day in the redeemed camp , after 20 years of the ailment , it vanished . This a fact . No Pastor prayed for me or knew about it. But there was an instruction from the ministering pastor that we should lay hands on anywhere we had infirmity , which I did . Since then no trace of it again. This was what a herbalist at Chanel 8 Tejuosho saw and exclaimed , he pratically sent me out.
The Bible says "all liars shall go to hell " . I don't lie . It is a fact.

There is God and from many evidences ( personal ) I know He is God and my Creator.

Your unbelief won't change the truth. God is real.
Re: 6000 Or 6million Or 60 Million? by obinna58(m): 4:42pm On Aug 11, 2018
bloodofthelamb:


Our ability to chat together despite we being in different location is as a result of God. God put this things in place long time ago. Man(science) only discovered how it works.

Even so, there is so many things that God has set up from the beginning yet to be discovered by men.
Does it look like God put those things in place long time ago while he's coming back with flying horse, or using the book of life
Re: 6000 Or 6million Or 60 Million? by dalaman: 4:53pm On Aug 11, 2018
enilove:


What is a myth ?

Tourists around the world going to Egypt are always shown the remains of the houses the Israelites lived in those days in the Land of Goshen.
Many foreign TV documentary programs have show this events and remains of the evidences of the stay of Israelites in Egypt .

This have been written in the Bible for over 2,000 years ago . This is not a hidden document . Why has no one in Egypt denied its truth , especially when those things said about the Egyptians are not good.
Israelites know they lived in Egypt and the Egyptians know as well. It is a fact.

Not true, I've actually been to Egypt 3 times. There is NO historical evidence outside the fables written inside the bible that shows that the Jews were ever enslaved in Egypt. None exist any where. The exodus is non historical. The bible does not even mention the name of the Pharoah at that time. All Egyptian Kings have names. The bible doesn't mention the name of the Pharoah which is typical of mythologies.

The bible is the book of an isn't Jewish folklore. The Jews don't believe in it. Majority if the Jews living in Israel today are non religious.



I was a Muslim with my documents bearing Muslim name. I have not changed it.

If you are a Yoruba man , you would have heard of this comedian Ghenga Adeboye , who died and came back to life after 2 days or thereabout . He said he went to heaven and was told to return and bring his Bible and a hymn book. Which is a parable to signify that Christianity is the only way. Why ? The reason is that most of his records he would try to tell us we are serving the same God , but he was a good christian.

As I said earlier , can science produce blood ? Can it produce its own kind of FLESH without taking from already existing cells , that is , to clone it ?

I had an injury when I was 7 years which doctors could not cure but a day in the redeemed camp , after 20 years of the ailment , it vanished . This a fact . No Pastor prayed for me or knew about it. But there was an instruction from the ministering pastor that we should lay hands on anywhere we had infirmity , which I did . Since then no trace of it again. This what what herbalist at Chanel 8 Tejuosho saw and exclaimed , he pratically sent me out.
The Bible says "all liars shall go to hell " . I don't lie . It is a fact.

There is God and from many evidences ( personal ) I know He is God and my Creator.

Your unbelief won't change the truth. God is real.



Haven't you heard of people that were visited by aliens that came and took them to the enter of the sun where they reside? There are many of them all over the Internet.

So your injury just magically disappeared because you were prayed upon by a pastor at redeem camp ground?
I flew from Abuja to Sydney on a camel back 4 weeks ago. I am not lying. Believe me. There are aliens and from my personal beliefs I know they exist.

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Re: 6000 Or 6million Or 60 Million? by enilove(m): 5:02pm On Aug 11, 2018
dalaman:


Not true, I've actually been to Egypt 3 times. There is NO historical evidence outside the fables written inside the bible that shows that the Jews were ever enslaved in Egypt. None exist any where. The exodus is non historical. The bible does not even mention the name of the Pharoah at that time. All Egyptian Kings have names. The bible doesn't mention the name of the Pharoah which is typical of mythologies.

The bible is the book of an isn't Jewish folklore. The Jews don't believe in it. Majority if the Jews living in Israel today are non religious.




Haven't you heard of people that were visited by aliens that came and took them to the enter of the sun where they reside? There are many of them all over the Internet.

So your injury just magically disappeared because you were prayed upon by a pastor at redeem camp ground?
I flew from Abuja to Sydney on a camel back 4 weeks ago. I am not lying. Believe me. There are aliens and from my personal beliefs I know they exist.


They are not aliens, they are demons , evil spirits .

Why are you avoiding my questions?

Can science produce blood?
Can you science give breathe to a died person?

If it cannot , why are you believing a lie that "there is no God"?
Re: 6000 Or 6million Or 60 Million? by dalaman: 5:05pm On Aug 11, 2018
enilove:



They are not aliens, they are demons , evil spirits .

Why are you avoiding my questions?

Can science produce blood?
Can you science give breathe to a died person?

If it cannot , why are you believing a lie that "there is no God"?

Aliens are the ones that produce blood. They give breath to a dead person.
Re: 6000 Or 6million Or 60 Million? by enilove(m): 5:55pm On Aug 11, 2018
dalaman:

Aliens are the ones that produce blood. They give breath to a dead person.
You are very funny .
Re: 6000 Or 6million Or 60 Million? by budaatum: 6:02pm On Aug 11, 2018
bloodofthelamb:


Our ability to chat together despite we being in different location is as a result of God. God put this things in place long time ago. Man(science) only discovered how it works.

Even so, there is so many things that God has set up from the beginning yet to be discovered by men.
After all, God created Apple, now!
Re: 6000 Or 6million Or 60 Million? by LastDays777: 6:42pm On Aug 11, 2018
obinna58:

Fossil fuel takes millions of year to form, you're talking about earth, and yet still demand contribution, people struggle and spend their time, money doing experiments in order to improve humanity while religious people fold their hands claiming that their fairly tale book(composed by ancient people lacking intellectual knowledge) knows all.

Good. At least we are making progress. So you believe the earth is 4.5 billion years? I want to know your view.
Re: 6000 Or 6million Or 60 Million? by LastDays777: 6:48pm On Aug 11, 2018
dalaman:


Aliens are the ones that produce blood. They give breath to a dead person.

Do you believe they are spirit beings?
Re: 6000 Or 6million Or 60 Million? by dalaman: 7:00pm On Aug 11, 2018
enilove:


You are very funny .

You are funnier.

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