Kunle-A:

With keen interest, i am watching.

oyenit:

me sef dey watch ooooo

Tadeus:

Interestin, im watching also

Fhemmmy:

This will be another interesting thread.
Eyes are watching and minds are decoding . . . . . . .

LondonCool:

If they dont change  their ways I will be compiling a list of complaints sent to me against some of these Cotonou car dealers here in order to prevent genuine members of the public from being taken on a ride. Watch this space !!

, Then with the increase in interest from UK/US based Nairalanders the Cotonou car agents started to add CLEARING OF CARS shipped Cotonou to their sales pitch/portfolio. They kept on updating their threads with smiley characters to remain relevant,

Consensus:

Poster, I have scrutinized this thread very closely. Your objective sounds as attention seeking, disjointed, distorted and blinkered.

Who cares if you made $48k profit here on Nairaland? You are obviously into business on nairaland and aim to nulify other peoples biz so as to increase your so-called $48k profit.

Also why should only US/UK nairalanders beware? No offence meant to them, but are they superior or any better than Nigerian based nairalanders?.

A year ago, in my pursuit to get a car I desired, I was infact duped by a non-nairaland based family friend who lives in US, before I finnaly got my self and resources back together.

Femmy2010, tadeus, larryshow, mr nice guy, ayodeji and other real Cotonou dealers, keep doing your thing and stay united. Do not let this baseless thread demoralize you.

You are all doing a good job and well done.

Mods, This thread is to be discarded, disposed and thrown into the recycle bin.

Tudór:

Who else sees the irony??

Its no secret that majority of this cotonu sheesh involves bringing cars over the legal age limit into the country brought in through bribes to custom officials or smuggling routes.

Those days, My school and off camp apartment being close to the border its was common to hear of custom officers being shot by these criminals or pedestrians run over by speeding smugglers in an attempt to escape customs.

Now we see them here beating their chests claiming integrity and barking for people not to soil their 'good' name.

On sunday they will go to church and lift up their hands to heaven and thank god, then on monday they'll go shoot custom officers, give bribes and run over pedestrians. Some on their thread they'll give glory to god and allah for business and call gods blessings on their prospective customers.

Hey, i'm not saying you shouldnt be a criminal/murderer/smuggler/bribe giver but dont come here with the self-righteous BS.

Soon now drug dealers go begin claim integrity and hala us for spoiling their good name.

texazzpete:

And again with the generalization.
What is it with you people anyway?

Tudór:

Who else sees the irony??

Its no secret that majority of this cotonu sheesh involves bringing cars over the legal age limit into the country brought in through bribes to custom officials or smuggling routes.

Those days, My school and off camp apartment being close to the border its was common to hear of custom officers being shot by these criminals or pedestrians run over by speeding smugglers in an attempt to escape customs.

Now we see them here beating their chests claiming integrity and barking for people not to soil their 'good' name.

On sunday they will go to church and lift up their hands to heaven and thank god, then on monday they'll go shoot custom officers, give bribes and run over pedestrians. Some on their thread they'll give glory to god and allah for business and call gods blessings on their prospective customers.

Hey, i'm not saying you shouldnt be a criminal/murderer/smuggler/bribe giver but dont come here with the self-righteous BS.

Soon now drug dealers go begin claim integrity and hala us for spoiling their good name.

Tudór:

Can you show me where I made generalizations??

My claim that MOST cotonu deals are for overage vehicles is both true and undeniable. And we all know what goes on when the vehicle is overage, dont we?

Kunle-A:



Those smugglers that are getting chased down by the customs are the one that are trying to BEAT the customs. There are several others that simply give the customs what they are asking / supposed to get and will travel through the normal road without hassle.


The truth is that there are still several cars over 10years old that are in great shape and are affordable for the general populace. It will be tough to find any vehicle to come thru Lagos for less than N1m.

I really don't see any problem in Cotonou dealers advertising their trade. But when they don't do what they promise (which i am suspecting is why this thread was began in the first place), that is where it gets dicey.

Tudór:

Who else sees the irony??

Its no secret that majority of this cotonu sheesh involves bringing cars over the legal age limit into the country brought in through bribes to custom officials or smuggling routes.

Those days, My school and off camp apartment being close to the border its was common to hear of custom officers being shot by these criminals or pedestrians run over by speeding smugglers in an attempt to escape customs.

Now we see them here beating their chests claiming integrity and barking for people not to soil their 'good' name.

On sunday they will go to church and lift up their hands to heaven and thank god, then on monday they'll go shoot custom officers, give bribes and run over pedestrians. Some on their thread they'll give glory to god and allah for business and call gods blessings on their prospective customers.

Hey, i'm not saying you shouldnt be a criminal/murderer/smuggler/bribe giver but dont come here with the self-righteous BS.

Soon now drug dealers go begin claim integrity and hala us for spoiling their good name.

chelseabmw:

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larryshow4:



What your claims are is what i don't understand, you saying cotonou are meant for Underage car? You shouldn't bother talking about what you know nothing about, You said in your school you hear gunshot of customs and all of those, I think you don't know the different between Smuggling and Tokunbo cars, You need go get reason why the customs are shooting, but if i have to tell you, Smugglers smuggle Turkey and new material, and items that are been barned by the nigerian government, when it comes to that of car, its not up to that stage, try and get educated about issues you don't know about before you open your mouth to talk about it. I am not taking this personal, i am just teaching you what you don't know.

Tudór:


Did this guy read my post at all or you're just being sentimental because you happen to be a cotonu dealer??

Coz I honestly dont see how one can deduce what you've typed up there from my post.

frankcj:

any idea how much to convert right hand vehicle to left hand in nigeria apparently.

LondonCool:

Let me first of all begin by quoting one of my ex-lecturers at ABU, Dr Patrick Wilmot. He said

"All that I have tried to do is to hold up a mirror so that you can see your own reflection. If you do not like what you see, breaking the mirror will change nothing, neither will cutting my arm off, killing me will change even less. The truth of a man cannot be dissolved in his blood".

Before this thread diverges I'd like to state that I have sorted out the salient issues (and prevented a financial loss) with the agent and can only say that in doing business in Nigeria "all that glitters is not gold".

From UK we wish in theory we could buy our cars ,ship it through Cotonou,clear it, successfully convert it to LHD, and sell it through the same Agent and repeat the same cycle through the "One-Stop-Shop-Cotonou-Agent". In practice, my experience was different-hence the alert.

[b]I had never accused anyone here of fraud. Perhaps, I'd should rather call it "fraudulent misrepresentation"-the agent may see it differently and call it "Smooth Talk". I had to send my representative to sort out things on my behalf with the aforesaid Agent and it seems it is a very murky terrain out there. A lot of misrepresentations were made to me which made me to make lots of financial assumptions and commitments about our transaction.

After knowing what I now knew about what went wrong I ask myself the question "was there an intention to deceive by the agent and was it acted upon ?". I reluctantly say "No". Maybe he was too over zealous in trying to secure a buy-in from me OR maybe by rushing to post this thread I nipped an unanticipated situation in the bud. I am not here to SPOIL anyone's business or TARNISH the solid reputation of proven Cotonou agents; hence I will not be naming names (sorry to dissappoint the skeptics). Nevertheless, the points, issues and recommendations I made concerning the future way the business should be conducted still stan[/b]ds.

Someone mentioned (i.e Consensus ??) why my thread was addressed to US/UK Nairalanders as if they were superior to the Nigerian based Nairalanders et al. I'd like to say that I was addressing a concern that had to do with shipping/clearing Cars from Europe to Cotonou and needed to let them beware of emerging trends from certain agents. Conversely,if the glove was on the other hand and I was based in Nigeria and had problems about a US/UK based Nairalander who misrepresented his ability to deliver a pre-order shipping transaction I would have aptly titled the thread "Beware of UK/US based pre-order shipping agents". We are all Nigerians and our location does not make us inferior/superior to one another.

@Busy body,
Long time and thanks !!



THAT IS WHERE YOUR FAULT LIES

LEARN TO BE EXPLICIT IN UR STATEMENTS-GENERAL PRINCIPLE OF LIFE

Busy_body:


You are the one who needs to get yourself in the loop again. Yeah some smugglers fayawo through the bush to save the N50,000 odd fees, but going through this route and the Nigerian Police using you as their meal ticket has drastically reduced the number of people who engage in these activities because the money they are trying to save would be spent in three months or less trying to settle the numerous Nigerian Police they encounter daily.


By the way, no Cotonue dealer on Nairaland has ever been accused of purchasing cars and fayawoing it, otherwise we would have heard of it


And it is only older cars that come through Cotonue, ho do you explain 2005, 2006, 2007, and upwards cars available for sale there and the VIN campaign has led to people's awareness to make sure they are not buying a lemon, so what gives