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Can The Devil Die? by blueAgent(m): 3:51pm On Oct 02, 2018
Will Satan rule Hell for eternity? is the Devil indestructible?
A lot of Christains and non-christains believe that the Devil cannot die they assume that he will be in charge in Hell  deciding the level of punishment meted to sinners this is untrue.

In Eziekel28:14 God through prophet Eziekel told us about the creation and fall of Satan using typology(hidden behind  the name King of Tyre)Arguments have been raised over the identity of the king of Tyre many dispute that the Bible verses refer to the Devil they of the opinion that the verse refers literally to the king of Tyre but a carefull study will reveal to us that only the devil fits this description.
No man has been in the gardern of God(verse13) Men are born not created verse13,No man has been to God's holy mountain, was a covering Cherub or walked in the midst of stones of fire(verse14) No man was born perfect verse15,No man was ever castdown from  Heaven verse16, only the Devil fits this description God gives us more insights to the indentity of this character through prophet Isaiah this time hidden under the name King of Babylon Isaiah14:4-20 compare it with Ezeikel28:17
In Ezeikel 28:17 God pronounced Judgement on Satan,God said he will lay Satan before the eyes of the world for all to see who Satan is and in verse 18
God says he will bring a fire to destory Satan and bring him to ashes Obadiah16, Mal4:1,psalm37:10,psalms 9:5,6
Some cite that the devil is a spirit so he cannot be destoryed yes God,Angels and even the Devil are all spirits but only God has life inherently.
For Satan to be indestructible means that he has immortality but God's word declears that only God has immortality.1Tim6:15  every other living Man or spirits get their life from God.
The devil through his power and influence has decieved humanity to believe that he is indestructible in occult teachings adhrents are promised immortality and great rewards this is far from the truth the Devil does not have immortality and cannot give what he does not have.

In Conclusion
People have made reference to words  in the bible that implies the Devil been punished forever or eternally  but the truth  is when we understand that God's word cannot be broken
One of the primary principles for understanding the Bible is that we must consider all the scriptures on a subject Only then will we come to a complete and accurate understanding of the matter we also need to compare bible verses to see the meaning of words as they are used in a particular context in the bible then we will come to the knoweledge that the Devil is destructible and will be destroyed by the fire of Hell just as God has spoken

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Re: Can The Devil Die? by Martinez19(m): 6:14pm On Oct 02, 2018
A fictional character can only die in the fictional world.

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Re: Can The Devil Die? by bloodofthelamb(m): 6:23pm On Oct 02, 2018
I agree with you. The devil can be destroyed and will be destroyed in the lake of fire. That is, he will cease to exist.

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Re: Can The Devil Die? by OtemAtum: 6:44pm On Oct 02, 2018
Eta-ntagba 17:1 There is no devil as a personality.

According to the BOOK OF TRUTH, there is no individual called DEVIL. Therefore I don't see your question as valid.

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Re: Can The Devil Die? by Bacteriologist(m): 12:47am On Oct 03, 2018
OtemAtum:
Eta-ntagba 17:1 There is no devil as a personality.

According to the BOOK OF TRUTH, there is no individual called DEVIL. Therefore I don't see your question as valid.



Also, your post is invalid. Your "book of truth" is as false as the absolute jargon registered in all other (fictitious) religious books.
Re: Can The Devil Die? by OtemAtum: 9:06pm On Oct 03, 2018
Bacteriologist:




Also, your post is invalid. Your "book of truth" is as false as the absolute jargon registered in all other (fictitious) religious books.
So you believe the devil to be an individual who was fighting with God? You must be joking.

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Re: Can The Devil Die? by sonmvayina(m): 9:20pm On Oct 03, 2018
Can God die? The devil is part of God just as we are all part of God.. The devil is not evil or independent of God neither is the devil an equal opposite of God.. That is the height of insult to make the devil a dual opposite of God and assigning to devil powers and kingdoms he does not have or possess.. What insanity..

The devil(Nergal in babylon mythology, Esu in yoruba/Benin mythology and Ekwensu in igbo mythology) is not an equal opposite of God, he does only what God has approved for him..

God cannot decree for the A to happen and the devil will come and change it to B, it is not possible now.. Before the devil does anything he gets the permission or go ahead from his master/God.,which is what is known all round the ancient world and African traditional religion.

It is the Romans that wants to mock God just as the prophet Daniel prophesied in Dan7 :25, that made the devil equal to God to deceive people and put them in darkness.. By creating their own God (jesus) as the saviour of man....

There is JUST nothing that God created that he cant control.. To think other wise is insulting..

People dey find light, without remembering that they can be blinded by the light..

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Re: Can The Devil Die? by Bacteriologist(m): 10:46pm On Oct 03, 2018
OtemAtum:
So you believe the devil to be an individual who was fighting with God? You must be joking.

I'm a freethinker.
Re: Can The Devil Die? by blueAgent(m): 5:32am On Oct 04, 2018
Martinez19:
A fictional character can only die in the fictional world.

Joker.

Go to a strong native doctor's house and ask him wheather his house is Disney Studios
and found out for yourself if the Devil is a fictional character.

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Re: Can The Devil Die? by blueAgent(m): 5:32am On Oct 04, 2018
bloodofthelamb:
I agree with you. The devil can be destroyed and will be destroyed in the lake of fire. That is, he will cease to exist.


True.
Re: Can The Devil Die? by blueAgent(m): 5:34am On Oct 04, 2018
OtemAtum:
Eta-ntagba 17:1 There is no devil as a personality.

According to the BOOK OF TRUTH, there is no individual called DEVIL. Therefore I don't see your question as valid.


Really?

Occultists and yahoo plus boys will be like who is this naive poster talking from his nose.
Re: Can The Devil Die? by blueAgent(m): 5:36am On Oct 04, 2018
sonmvayina:
Can God die? The devil is part of God just as we are all part of God.. The devil is not evil or independent of God neither is the devil an equal opposite of God.. That is the height of insult to make the devil a dual opposite of God and assigning to devil powers and kingdoms he does not have or possess.. What insanity..

The devil(Nergal in babylon mythology, Esu in yoruba/Benin mythology and Ekwensu in igbo mythology) is not an equal opposite of God, he does only what God has approved for him..

God cannot decree for the A to happen and the devil will come and change it to B, it is not possible now.. Before the devil does anything he gets the permission or go ahead from his master/God.,which is what is known all round the ancient world and African traditional religion.

It is the Romans that wants to mock God just as the prophet Daniel prophesied in Dan7 :25, that made the devil equal to God to deceive people and put them in darkness.. By creating their own God (jesus) as the saviour of man....

There is JUST nothing that God created that he cant control.. To think other wise is insulting..

People dey find light, without remembering that they can be blinded by the light..


So you mean that Jesus is a false Roman god?

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Re: Can The Devil Die? by Ubenedictus(m): 7:01am On Oct 04, 2018
The devil can die, all thing not God depend on GOD for life.
but i dont believe God is interested in d total anihilation of any intelligent creature both human and angelic.
Re: Can The Devil Die? by Martinez19(m): 9:27am On Oct 04, 2018
blueAgent:


Joker.

Go to a strong native doctor's house and ask him wheather his house is Disney Studios
and found out for yourself if the Devil is a fictional character.
Have you been to a native doctor's house?
Re: Can The Devil Die? by sonmvayina(m): 9:32am On Oct 04, 2018
blueAgent:



So you mean that Jesus is a false Roman god?

A BIG yes, don't you know by now... God does not condone human sacrifice and detest it, when the jews where following their neighbours to sacrifice their children to moloch, he punished them for it,

He gave them a commandment "do not make the image or likeness of anything in heaven, on earth or under the waters below the earth.. Do not bow down to them or serve them" why should they break it by worshipping a God created in the image and likeness of a man which is found on earth.. He will punish then if they do.. Maybe this time he will send small Qatar to over run them...

The messiah he promised them was from the shoot of Jesse, meaning he will have a human father and mother to usher in an era of Peace, no more wars and oppression.. Men will hammer their sword into ploughshares and learn of war no more.. Isaiah 2 and 11...

There was already a solution to the problem of sin, all God wanted was sincere and genuine repentance.(ezekiel 33)...no human sacrifice is required or necessary.
Re: Can The Devil Die? by solite3(m): 9:46am On Oct 04, 2018
I disagree that Satan will be anhillated.

the bible always use phrases like eternal punishment for sinners.
someone who has been anhillated cannot be said to be undergoing everlasting punishment.
Matthew 25:46
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

what is everlasting punishment?

Revelation 14:11
And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Revelation 20:10
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.



the punishment clearly means torment.

for there to be torment the person needs to be aware and couscious of the torment or else it is meaningless.

the devil will be in torment forever not anhillated for ever.
Re: Can The Devil Die? by sonmvayina(m): 11:39am On Oct 04, 2018
Most of the quotes are from the Christian or new testament scriptures, the old testament does not have an evil, independent or equal opposite devil..

So that is one big contradiction in both belief systems..

The Romans just added their BS story about a dying and rising God at the end of the Jewish Tanakh.. As mockery against the most high.

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Re: Can The Devil Die? by blueAgent(m): 5:42pm On Oct 04, 2018
Martinez19:
Have you been to a native doctor's house?

Why ask?
Re: Can The Devil Die? by blueAgent(m): 5:45pm On Oct 04, 2018
Ubenedictus:
The devil can die, all thing not God depend on GOD for life.
but i dont believe God is interested in d total anihilation of any intelligent creature both human and angelic.

So God was lying in Eziekel28:17 ?
Re: Can The Devil Die? by blueAgent(m): 5:49pm On Oct 04, 2018
solite3:
I disagree that Satan will be anhillated.

the bible always use phrases like eternal punishment for sinners.
someone who has been anhillated cannot be said to be undergoing everlasting punishment.
Matthew 25:46
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

what is everlasting punishment?

Revelation 14:11
And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Revelation 20:10
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.



the punishment clearly means torment.

for there to be torment the person needs to be aware and couscious of the torment or else it is meaningless.

the devil will be in torment forever not anhillated for ever.


You pick bible verses out context explain what the Bible means when it said that sinners will die the second death?

https://www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/book/e/30/t/hell-fire--a-twisted-truth-untangled


https://www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/book/e/48/t/spirits-of-the-dead
Re: Can The Devil Die? by blueAgent(m): 5:50pm On Oct 04, 2018
solite3:
I disagree that Satan will be anhillated.

the bible always use phrases like eternal punishment for sinners.
someone who has been anhillated cannot be said to be undergoing everlasting punishment.
Matthew 25:46
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

what is everlasting punishment?

Revelation 14:11
And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Revelation 20:10
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.



the punishment clearly means torment.

for there to be torment the person needs to be aware and couscious of the torment or else it is meaningless.

the devil will be in torment forever not anhillated for ever.

I guess Eziekel28:17 is not part of the bible?
Re: Can The Devil Die? by blueAgent(m): 5:53pm On Oct 04, 2018
sonmvayina:


A BIG yes, don't you know by now... God does not condone human sacrifice and detest it, when the jews where following their neighbours to sacrifice their children to moloch, he punished them for it,

He gave them a commandment "do not make the image or likeness of anything in heaven, on earth or under the waters below the earth.. Do not bow down to them or serve them" why should they break it by worshipping a God created in the image and likeness of a man which is found on earth.. He will punish then if they do.. Maybe this time he will send small Qatar to over run them...

The messiah he promised them was from the shoot of Jesse, meaning he will have a human father and mother to usher in an era of Peace, no more wars and oppression.. Men will hammer their sword into ploughshares and learn of war no more.. Isaiah 2 and 11...

There was already a solution to the problem of sin, all God wanted was sincere and genuine repentance.(ezekiel 33)...no human sacrifice is required or necessary.


You are confused.

So who is the messiah he sent them?
Re: Can The Devil Die? by blueAgent(m): 5:56pm On Oct 04, 2018
sonmvayina:
Most of the quotes are from the Christian or new testament scriptures, the old testament does not have an evil, independent or equal opposite devil..

So that is one big contradiction in both belief systems..

The Romans just added their BS story about a dying and rising God at the end of the Jewish Tanakh.. As mockery against the most high.

Where in the Bible or my article that says the Devil is God's opposite and equal.

Mind you 2 Timothy 3:16-17 (KJV)
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God,
and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for
correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect,
thoroughly furnished unto all good works.


Which means both old and new testment are relevant to us.
Re: Can The Devil Die? by Martinez19(m): 6:09pm On Oct 04, 2018
blueAgent:


Why ask?
Answer the damn question.
Re: Can The Devil Die? by blueAgent(m): 6:11pm On Oct 04, 2018
Martinez19:
Answer the damn question.
No
Re: Can The Devil Die? by Martinez19(m): 6:15pm On Oct 04, 2018
blueAgent:


No
1) If you haven't gone to a native doctor's house and you believe in satan, do I then need to go to a native doctor's house?
2) why do you think Satan is real?
Re: Can The Devil Die? by blueAgent(m): 6:18pm On Oct 04, 2018
why do you think Satan is real?

Thats why you need to go or simply any deliverance Church
Re: Can The Devil Die? by sonmvayina(m): 7:10pm On Oct 04, 2018
blueAgent:



You are confused.

So who is the messiah he sent them?

They are still waiting... He has not come..
Re: Can The Devil Die? by sonmvayina(m): 7:14pm On Oct 04, 2018
blueAgent:
why do you think Satan is real?


Thats why you need to go or simply any deliverance Church

How old are you.. You sound very low in intelligence, have you completed secondary school? Just asking in good faith.. No insult intended
Re: Can The Devil Die? by OtemAtum: 7:21pm On Oct 04, 2018
blueAgent:



Really?

Occultists and yahoo plus boys will be like who is this naive poster talking from his nose.
Have you been into occultism or yahoo plus to know if they had seen a devil before.
Re: Can The Devil Die? by sonmvayina(m): 7:28pm On Oct 04, 2018
blueAgent:


Where in the Bible or my article that says the Devil is God's opposite and equal.

Mind you 2 Timothy 3:16-17 (KJV)
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God,
and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for
correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect,
thoroughly furnished unto all good works.


Which means both old and new testment are relevant to us.

So which power are you assigning to the devil? When it is God that is responsible for both good and evil.. Lamentation 3:38, Amos 2:6
Re: Can The Devil Die? by Ubenedictus(m): 10:45am On Oct 05, 2018
blueAgent:


So God was lying in Eziekel28:17 ?
HOW DOES THAT CONTRADICT WHAT I SAID?

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