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Re: Can The Devil Die? by SeedofDavid: 11:32am On Oct 05, 2018
sonmvayina:


How old are you.. You sound very low in intelligence, have you completed secondary school? Just asking in good faith.. No insult intended
brother, you can lie oh... continue to not insult him.
Re: Can The Devil Die? by solite3(m): 12:14pm On Oct 05, 2018
blueAgent:


I guess Eziekel28:17 is not part of the bible?
death does not mean anhilation
Re: Can The Devil Die? by sonmvayina(m): 4:14pm On Oct 05, 2018
blueAgent:


I guess Eziekel28:17 is not part of the bible?

The old testament and new testament are for 2 different religions and therefore 2 different ideologies.. The old testament was written by the jews for Judaism.. The new testament was written by the Romans /Greeks for their own religion.. They added it to the Jewish scriptures to mock the God of the jews which they equated to their Satan and created their God (jesus) as the saviour of man...
Re: Can The Devil Die? by blueAgent(m): 5:37pm On Oct 05, 2018
solite3:
death does not mean anhilation
So what does it mean?
Re: Can The Devil Die? by blueAgent(m): 5:41pm On Oct 05, 2018
Blasphemy
Re: Can The Devil Die? by blueAgent(m): 5:41pm On Oct 05, 2018
sonmvayina:


The old testament and new testament are for 2 different religions and therefore 2 different ideologies.. The old testament was written by the jews for Judaism.. The new testament was written by the Romans /Greeks for their own religion.. They added it to the Jewish scriptures to mock the God of the jews which they equated to their Satan and created their God (jesus) as the saviour of man...




Blasphemy.

You don't know what you are saying. I gave you a bible verse that says all scripture both old and new testament were given to us by God you claiming that it was the Romans who invented the new testaments is pure fallacy.
The Greeks and Romans were pagans.
secondly the new testament agrees very much with the old so your claim is totally crap.
Re: Can The Devil Die? by blueAgent(m): 5:43pm On Oct 05, 2018
Ubenedictus:
HOW DOES THAT CONTRADICT WHAT I SAID?

God said he will turn Satan to ashes and you are saying that Satan will not die.
Re: Can The Devil Die? by blueAgent(m): 5:47pm On Oct 05, 2018
OtemAtum:
Have you been into occultism or yahoo plus to know if they had seen a devil before.

You should direct your question to them not me.

www.informationng.com/2018/05/ex-yahoo-boy-reportedly-exposes-ritual-methods-speaks-on-eating-poo-running-mad-using-girls.html

https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/tori-45248779
Re: Can The Devil Die? by blueAgent(m): 5:53pm On Oct 05, 2018
sonmvayina:
Can God die? The devil is part of God just as we are all part of God.. The devil is not evil or independent of God neither is the devil an equal opposite of God.. That is the height of insult to make the devil a dual opposite of God and assigning to devil powers and kingdoms he does not have or possess.. What insanity..

The devil(Nergal in babylon mythology, Esu in yoruba/Benin mythology and Ekwensu in igbo mythology) is not an equal opposite of God, he does only what God has approved for him..

God cannot decree for the A to happen and the devil will come and change it to B, it is not possible now.. Before the devil does anything he gets the permission or go ahead from his master/God.,which is what is known all round the ancient world and African traditional religion.

It is the Romans that wants to mock God just as the prophet Daniel prophesied in Dan7 :25, that made the devil equal to God to deceive people and put them in darkness.. By creating their own God (jesus) as the saviour of man....

There is JUST nothing that God created that he cant control.. To think other wise is insulting..

People dey find light, without remembering that they can be blinded by the light..


Its obvious you are confused.
Re: Can The Devil Die? by blueAgent(m): 5:54pm On Oct 05, 2018
sonmvayina:


How old are you.. You sound very low in intelligence, have you completed secondary school? Just asking in good faith.. No insult intended

I laugh at you its obvious you don't know how funny and unreasonable your comments are.
Re: Can The Devil Die? by blueAgent(m): 5:54pm On Oct 05, 2018
sonmvayina:

They are still waiting... He has not come..
Said who and where did you get this information from?
Re: Can The Devil Die? by blueAgent(m): 5:57pm On Oct 05, 2018
sonmvayina:


So which power are you assigning to the devil? When it is God that is responsible for both good and evil.. Lamentation 3:38, Amos 2:6

Stop quoting bible verses you can barely comprehend.
Re: Can The Devil Die? by solite3(m): 6:27pm On Oct 05, 2018
blueAgent:


So what does it mean?
there are two types of death one is the separation of the soul from the body which is the first death second is the separation of the soul from God forever which is the second death.
Re: Can The Devil Die? by solite3(m): 6:29pm On Oct 05, 2018
sonmvayina:


The old testament and new testament are for 2 different religions and therefore 2 different ideologies.. The old testament was written by the jews for Judaism.. The new testament was written by the Romans /Greeks for their own religion.. They added it to the Jewish scriptures to mock the God of the jews which they equated to their Satan and created their God (jesus) as the saviour of man...
the God of the old testament is the same in the new testament.
the old testament prophesied about the new.
Re: Can The Devil Die? by sonmvayina(m): 10:39pm On Oct 05, 2018
solite3:
the God of the old testament is the same in the new testament.
the old testament prophesied about the new.

Not at all, the old testament talked about just one God that is responsible for everything both good and evil(Isaiah 45:7,lamentation 3:38).a universal God.. But in the New Testament it is a dualistic belief where you have 2 separate God's for good and evil, with their separate kingdoms...

You got it now?
Re: Can The Devil Die? by sonmvayina(m): 10:50pm On Oct 05, 2018
blueAgent:


Stop quoting bible verses you can barely comprehend.
I can't not stop you from worshipping your man God, it is up to you.. I know how difficult it is to just learn that all you believed in your life is but a fabrication.. It is hard to swallow..

Just take your time.. God is ever patience..
But the bottom line is you MUST learn the truth.. That is what will set you free...
Re: Can The Devil Die? by sonmvayina(m): 11:01pm On Oct 05, 2018
solite3:
the God of the old testament is the same in the new testament.
the old testament prophesied about the new.

In other words the old testament God is responsible for both good and evil, the devil only acts with the expressed permission from God as told in the story of job which incidentally is the only book where the devil is mentioned in the entire old testament BUT the new testament god is 3 in one and only responsible for good as the devil is now elevated to a dual opposite of God and becomes responsible for evil..

I don't know how else to educate you..

The messiah God promised the jews is an ordinary man from the line of David, he is coming just once to rule In a peaceful world (no second coming arrangements). He is not coming to die for sins as there is already a solution to the problem of sin (ezekiel 33)..
God never said to worship or go through the messiah to get to him.. Because God is within. God is the personification of totality of the consciousness of the universe.. Not a man or human being (numbers 23:19)..

Read the passages you said I don't know anything about and explain them to me..
Re: Can The Devil Die? by blueAgent(m): 4:42pm On Oct 08, 2018
sonmvayina:

I can't not stop you from worshipping your man God, it is up to you.. I know how difficult it is to just learn that all you believed in your life is but a fabrication.. It is hard to swallow..

Just take your time.. God is ever patience..
But the bottom line is you MUST learn the truth.. That is what will set you free...


You are confused, you have no prove of what you are saying just pure fantasy.

Like i said before show me where or how you knew that Jesus was a made up story by the Romans is that too diffcult for you to do?
Re: Can The Devil Die? by blueAgent(m): 5:29pm On Oct 08, 2018
solite3:
there are two types of death one is the separation of the soul from the body which is the first death second is the separation of the soul from God forever which is the second death.

I laugh in Igbo.

Where is this written in the Bible?
Re: Can The Devil Die? by KraticKratus: 9:54pm On Oct 08, 2018
bloodofthelamb:
I agree with you. The devil can be destroyed and will be destroyed in the lake of fire. That is, he will cease to exist.

what is the fuel in lake of fire made of?
Re: Can The Devil Die? by blueAgent(m): 4:47pm On Oct 09, 2018
KraticKratus:


what is the fuel in lake of fire made of?



Isaiah 34:8 For it is the day of the LORD's vengeance, and the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion. 34:9 And the streams thereof shall be turned into pitch, and the dust thereof into brimstone, and the land thereof shall become burning pitch. 34:10 It shall not be quenched night nor day; the smoke thereof shall go up for ever: from generation to generation it shall lie waste; none shall pass through it for ever and ever.



Isaiah 47:14
Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall
burn them; they shall not deliver themselves
from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor a fire to sit before
Re: Can The Devil Die? by sonmvayina(m): 5:20pm On Oct 09, 2018
blueAgent:



You are confused, you have no prove of what you are saying just pure fantasy.

Like i said before show me where or how you knew that Jesus was a made up story by the Romans is that too diffcult for you to do?

Let me set you on the right path: 1. What is the Jewish idea of a messiah 2. Why did God promise to send a Messiah? 3.what is the messiah coming to achieve? 4.how many times is the messiah coming?

See if Jesus fulfil or fits into the idea of a Jewish messiah..

Just learn
Re: Can The Devil Die? by KraticKratus: 9:02pm On Oct 09, 2018
blueAgent:




Isaiah 34:8 For it is the day of the LORD's vengeance, and the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion. 34:9 And the streams thereof shall be turned into pitch, and the dust thereof into brimstone, and the land thereof shall become burning pitch. 34:10 It shall not be quenched night nor day; the smoke thereof shall go up for ever: from generation to generation it shall lie waste; none shall pass through it for ever and ever.



Isaiah 47:14
Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall
burn them; they shall not deliver themselves
from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor a fire to sit before

Nonsense

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Re: Can The Devil Die? by blueAgent(m): 4:54pm On Oct 11, 2018
sonmvayina:


Let me set you on the right path: 1. What is the Jewish idea of a messiah 2. Why did God promise to send a Messiah? 3.what is the messiah coming to achieve? 4.how many times is the messiah coming?

See if Jesus fulfil or fits into the idea of a Jewish messiah..

Just learn


Why is my question so had for you to answer?
Re: Can The Devil Die? by blueAgent(m): 4:55pm On Oct 11, 2018
KraticKratus:

Nonsense

I guess the fuel will be your Urine.
Re: Can The Devil Die? by blueAgent(m): 9:50pm On Oct 11, 2018
sonmvayina:


Let me set you on the right path: 1. What is the Jewish idea of a messiah 2. Why did God promise to send a Messiah? 3.what is the messiah coming to achieve? 4.how many times is the messiah coming?

See if Jesus fulfil or fits into the idea of a Jewish messiah..

Just learn


Jesus fufills all the bible prophecy of the coming Messiah.
Re: Can The Devil Die? by sonmvayina(m): 9:44am On Oct 12, 2018
blueAgent:



Jesus fufills all the bible prophecy of the coming Messiah.

You know you have not answered my question.. I want old testament Messianic prophecies and how jesus fulfiled them...

Let us educate ourselves..
Re: Can The Devil Die? by sonmvayina(m): 9:51am On Oct 12, 2018
blueAgent:



Why is my question so had for you to answer?

The jews where waiting for a Messiah that God promised to send them. He was coming from the shoot of jesse(David's father) meaning he will have a human father and a human mother.. He is coming to usher an era of world peace (no more wars and oppression), he will make God the creator known throughout the world, he will build the temple and the jews will resume the daily sacrifice to God,
And he is coming just ONCE to accomplish all these, he will do all these in the first attempt as there was no second coming arrangements..

So then, who is jesus? The jews don't have the idea of God mating with human as part of their belief.. That is a roman /Greek belief (I guess you have watched "clash of the titans and percy Jackson and the lightening thief)..

You got it now?
Re: Can The Devil Die? by sonmvayina(m): 10:23am On Oct 12, 2018
blueAgent:



Jesus fufills all the bible prophecy of the coming Messiah.

Check for your self

Isaiah 11

Ezekiel 37:24-25
Ezekiel 34:23-24

Hosea 3:5

Jeremiah 23, 31, 33
Re: Can The Devil Die? by KraticKratus: 11:43am On Oct 12, 2018
blueAgent:



I guess the fuel will be your Urine.

a religion based on guesswork.

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Re: Can The Devil Die? by blueAgent(m): 4:06am On Oct 19, 2018
sonmvayina:

Check for your self
Isaiah 11
Ezekiel 37:24-25 Ezekiel 34:23-24
Hosea 3:5
Jeremiah 23, 31, 33


Its obvious you are confused.
Re: Can The Devil Die? by blueAgent(m): 4:07am On Oct 19, 2018
sonmvayina:


The jews where waiting for a Messiah that God promised to send them. He was coming from the shoot of jesse(David's father) meaning he will have a human father and a human mother.. He is coming to usher an era of world peace (no more wars and oppression), he will make God the creator known throughout the world, he will build the temple and the jews will resume the daily sacrifice to God,
And he is coming just ONCE to accomplish all these, he will do all these in the first attempt as there was no second coming arrangements..

So then, who is jesus? The jews don't have the idea of God mating with human as part of their belief.. That is a roman /Greek belief (I guess you have watched "clash of the titans and percy Jackson and the lightening thief)..

You got it now?


Where did you get your information from?

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