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Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by Jasmine360(f): 11:33am On Oct 07, 2018
ATIKU all the way!
Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by nelronaldo(m): 11:34am On Oct 07, 2018
Atiku!!
Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by chymeze: 11:34am On Oct 07, 2018
atiku 1573 votes
Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by TroubleMaker47(m): 11:34am On Oct 07, 2018
Atiku -1427!!
Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by frixie: 11:34am On Oct 07, 2018
Atiku Vs Buhari
Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by Antipob777(f): 11:34am On Oct 07, 2018
And Atiku wins

Hip Hop Hip

Hurrayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by adoniza(m): 11:34am On Oct 07, 2018
I Said It, Atiku Won!!!
Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by sgtponzihater1(m): 11:34am On Oct 07, 2018
Jasmine360:
ATIKU all the way!
True jasmine, true.
Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by megafem1: 11:34am On Oct 07, 2018
Too much monitoring agent in that PDP in form of loyal members
Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by johnjay4u2u(m): 11:35am On Oct 07, 2018
Atikulating
Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by icon02(m): 11:36am On Oct 07, 2018
Atiku wins by 1427 votes
Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by clefstone(m): 11:36am On Oct 07, 2018
fratermathy:


Okpes themselves decided to be Urhobos, hence the statement that Urhobo is a nation, not an ethnicity. We all know that Okpes do not speak Urhobo and Urhobos do not understand Okpe. When Urhobo Progress Union was formed, Okpe, Uvwie and Isoko leaders were invited to join the group. Okpe and Uvwie joined in, Isoko did not buy it.

If our definition of ethnicity goes beyond language and includes other criteria such as religion, culture, ontology, etc, then Urhobo, Isoko, Okpe, Erhowa and Uvwie are of the same ethnicity, regardless of whatever names we go by. However, we live in a society -as my initial statement indicated- where we are polarised by language and politics and as such, Isoko and Erhowa align themselves as one ethnic nation, whereas Okpe, Urhobo and Uvwie align as one. The Urhobo Council of Traditional Rulers have Okpe and Uvwie monarchs. UPU is well peopled by Okpe and Uvwie representatives, even as far as the Presidency in times past.

Regardless of the above, there are elements within Okpe who do not fancy the Okpe-Urhobo-Uvwie grouping and they are free to. Not all Igbo or Yoruba cultural units/groups want to be under the general tag too.

The above scenario is in no way similar to the Ikwerre-Igbo debacle. Ikwerres have never associated with Igbos, even for expediency. They don't speak Igbo and they don't share common ontology and mythology.


So, I repeat myself again, ethnicity is a complex of language, politics, culture, religion, onomastics, mythology, etc etc. But until someone or a group categorically states who they are, it is better not to assume regardless of what they appear to be.
an Okpe man will never introduce himself as Urhobo, even d Uvwies to an extent(my mum is Uvwie btw)
Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by 77up(m): 11:37am On Oct 07, 2018
Binikingdowm:
herdsmen keep shut
Lolz grin cheesy

Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by TroubleMaker47(m): 11:37am On Oct 07, 2018
kingmexy1997:
I no know say tambuwal go fit reach 100 votes self
Wike has finished Rivers money! cry
Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by livelymatilda22: 11:37am On Oct 07, 2018
TroubleMaker47:

Pls Is dis the final coalition of votes?
Yes
Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by bigmo1(m): 11:38am On Oct 07, 2018
If atiku wins this, who will OBJ support between buhari and atiku?

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Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by gentlegenius(m): 11:38am On Oct 07, 2018
Antipob777:
And Atiku wins

Hip Hop Hip

Hurrayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Not just that he has won. But the gap is really wide.
I am actually wondering how 68 votes could be void with the calibre of people that voted.
Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by Nuelstar(m): 11:40am On Oct 07, 2018
*PDP PRESIDENTIAL RESULT*

TOTAL DELEGATES-3274
VOID VOTES-68

1.DAVID MARK - 35

2 DATTI BABA-AHMED -5

3. JONAH JANG -19

4. KABIRU TURAKI - 65

5. SULE LAMIDO - 96

6. ATTAHIRU BAFARAWA - 48

7. IBRAHIM DANKWAMBO -111

8. AHMED MAKARFI - 74

9. RABIU KWANKWASO-158

10. BUKOLA SARAKI- 317

11. AMINU TAMBUWAL- 693

12. ATIKU ABUBAKAR- 1427

*ATIKU ABUBAKAR emerges PDP PRESIDENTIAL candidate*

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Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by Binikingdowm: 11:41am On Oct 07, 2018
77up:
Lolz grin cheesy
boko haram them...
Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by gentlegenius(m): 11:41am On Oct 07, 2018
bigmo1:
If atiku wins this, who will OBJ support between buhari and atiku?
You are still saying "if" when Atiku has actually won.
By the way, must OBJ support somebody? Is he not old enough to stay away from politics?

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Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by berbs: 11:41am On Oct 07, 2018
gentlegenius:

Not just that he has won. But the gap is really wide.
I am actually wondering how 68 votes could be void with the calibre of people that voted.
Keep wondering

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Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by nelronaldo(m): 11:41am On Oct 07, 2018
To my leader Bukola Saraki, You did a great job. Nice one presido

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Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by TroubleMaker47(m): 11:42am On Oct 07, 2018
gentlegenius:

You are still saying "if" when Atiku has actually won.
By the way, must OBJ support somebody? Is he not old enough to stay away from politics?
Or Obj can as well DIE!! He's old grin
Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by berbs: 11:43am On Oct 07, 2018
gentlegenius:

You are still saying "if" when Atiku has actually won.
By the way, must OBJ support somebody? Is he not old enough to stay away from politics?
Obj can s3ck it up angry
Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by frixie: 11:43am On Oct 07, 2018
Saraki just test his popularity. Let the Senate resume now
Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by fratermathy(m): 11:45am On Oct 07, 2018
clefstone:
an Okpe man will never introduce himself as Urhobo, even d Uvwies to an extent(my mum is Uvwie btw)

"will never" is an overstretching of reality. Your statement will be better expressed as "Some Okpe men will never..." and that is quite fine. Uvwies don't have that complex. And like I said from the onset, Okpes do not traditionally speak Urhobo, as Okpe is a distinct language (although more than 70% speak Urhobo as either first or second language today). They only CHOOSE to be Urhobo and by "they", I mean the leaders of Okpe including the Orodje himself and the vast majority of Okpe people. If you want to take up ethnicity as a clause, then by all means, we can rightly say Okpes, Urhobos, Isokos, Erhowas and Uvwies belong to the same ethnic group. Whatever term it is called may be subjective. Socio-politically, however, Okpes and Uvwie choose to be Urhobos while Erhowa choose to be Isoko. In times past, all were classed as Urhobo or Sobo.

The emphasis on the above is on the fact that they "choose" to be who they are and identify as such. Ikwerre leaders haven't chosen to be Igbo nor do they identify as such. There are indeed Ikwerre people who may identify as Igbos for personal reasons, just as there are Urhobos who identify as Yorubas or Itsekiri for personal reasons but these are personal interests and not reflective of group identity. In this regard, Ikwerre is Ikwerre and Okpe is Urhobo.
Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by davidsthe(m): 11:45am On Oct 07, 2018
gentlegenius:

Not just that he has won. But the gap is really wide.
I am actually wondering how 68 votes could be void with the calibre of people that voted.

It's commendable you looked at this angle, without prejudice to their level of education, exposure and 'calibre' there are people with special ability at the convention. There may be sight impaired delegates of which I'm not sure alternatives was made for such people to vote with
Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by Mrmos: 11:46am On Oct 07, 2018
I am Yoruba but I will gladly support Peter OBI as vice of Atiku. Peter Obi I think is one person that can match the intelligence, smartness of Osibanjo. He has done well to deserve it.
PETER OBI FOR VICE PRESIDENT.

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Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by 77up(m): 11:53am On Oct 07, 2018
Highest bidder wins the race !


Congrat Atiku but PMB/OSINBAJO all the way !

Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by keeeem: 11:54am On Oct 07, 2018
Bros how can you be comparing Peter Obi with Osinbajo? Make una no get too excited nah!! Haba!! Can you see Osinbajo's demeanour when he makes his speeches? Softspoken, intelligent, pragmatic and so on and so on. You think he got his Professor from a roadshop shop in Yaba? Abeg compare likes for likes jare

Mrmos:
I am Yoruba but I will gladly support Peter OBI as vice of Atiku. Peter Obi I think is one person that can match the intelligence, smartness of Osibanjo. He has done well to deserve it.
PETER OBI FOR VICE PRESIDENT.

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Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by agabaI23(m): 12:01pm On Oct 07, 2018
keeeem:
Bros how can you be comparing Peter Obi with Osinbajo? Make una no get too excited nah!! Haba!! Can you see Osinbajo's demeanour when he makes his speeches? Softspoken, intelligent, pragmatic and so on and so on. You think he got his Professor from a roadshop shop in Yaba? Abeg compare likes for likes jare

You probably do not know Peter.

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Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by gift01: 12:01pm On Oct 07, 2018
Atiku vs PMB. You people just gave OBJ high blood pressure

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