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Re: 1990 W126 560sec Project by AutoElectNG: 3:27pm On Oct 20, 2018
kulikuli45:


How do I even check my mails?

The email account linked to moniker here.

Check your inbox
Re: 1990 W126 560sec Project by Nobody: 3:31pm On Oct 20, 2018
kulikuli45:


You are wrong sir.

The Mercedes-Benz M104 was a straight-6 automobile engine produced from 1989 through 1999. It was a double overhead cam design with 4 valves per cylinder. It replaced the M103 (V-boot) 6 cylinder engine.

If I just mention V8 engine, u can't tell if it's the old M117 grinding engine in 500SEL or the more powerful M113 in your S500.

I did not respond to you but to the person I quoted. He alleged a 4 banger. If you’re aggrieved then take it up with him.

I find the whole thing a distasteful exercise and a lame attempt to come out as a educated motorist by using engine nomenclatures like that.

EgunMogaji out.

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Re: 1990 W126 560sec Project by kulikuli45: 4:21pm On Oct 20, 2018
AutoElectNG:


The email account linked to moniker here.

Check your inbox

Yeah.
Seen.
Thank plenty.
Re: 1990 W126 560sec Project by kulikuli45: 4:37pm On Oct 20, 2018
EgunMogaji:


I did not respond to you but to the person I quoted. He alleged a 4 banger. If you’re aggrieved then take it up with him.

I find the whole thing a distasteful exercise and a lame attempt to come out as a educated motorist by using engine nomenclatures like that.

EgunMogaji out.

I'm not aggrieved about anything.

I find it amusing though that u will term it as a distasteful exercise and a lame attempt to come out as an educated motorist simply because I used the right nomenclature for an engine. Quite frankly, I just find it easier to; it doesn't matter how you feel about it. While your inputs would've been appreciated, you don't matter that much.

It's my thread and my project. If u find anything distasteful, u shd excuse urself rather that stoop to this level of childishness sir.

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Re: 1990 W126 560sec Project by Readonee35L(m): 6:25pm On Oct 20, 2018
kulikuli45:


I'm not aggrieved about anything.

I find it amusing though that u will term it as a distasteful exercise and a lame attempt to come out as an educated motorist simply because I used the right nomenclature for an engine. Quite frankly, I just find it easier to; it doesn't matter how you feel about it. While your inputs would've been appreciated, you don't matter that much.

It's my thread and my project. If u find anything distasteful, u shd excuse urself rather that stoop to this level of childishness sir.
Mr man You owe nobody no explanation.
The person tackling you also uses ambiguous words in his explanations. Now he's finding your words distasteful. Very funny. If anyone can't find out the meaning of Engine model numbers and their generations, then they don't belong here.
Do your thing and move. You get time to they explain grin
Smh .

For example . If i intend to describe Toyota 2GR-FE . He expects me to use 3.5L v6 when of course there are different 3.5L v6 depending on specification, application e.t.c

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Re: 1990 W126 560sec Project by laivwire(m): 9:32pm On Oct 20, 2018
Its about time for this thread. I expected you will start on technical and intrior refurbishing first before body works and wheels. Lets see how it pans out though cos I know this is definitely a $$$ guzzling project

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Re: 1990 W126 560sec Project by kulikuli45: 10:08pm On Oct 20, 2018
laivwire:
Its about time for this thread. I expected you will start on technical and intrior refurbishing first before body works and wheels. Lets see how it pans out though cos I know this is definitely a $$$ guzzling project

You thought right sir.
However, Makurdi (where I bought the car) wasn't my preferred place to work on her. I had to make it drive-able to Abuja, hence the engine touch-up and initial body work. The primer was to give it some sort of 'paint look' instead of the terribly deteriorating skin it had on.

Wheel and tyres was a steal. A good friend found them all for N90k. 18" chromes with 2016 rubber. Almost new. I just had to. Besides, the tyres on the car were gone. I needed to replace them either ways.

So being in Abuja now, we have settled in to the correct work sequence. Engine and Transmission installed yesterday. Wiring ongoing. You know how it is with trial and error ECU and Air flow meter.

Also did some construction to fit the cable throttle system.

Next week will be interior, hopefully.

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Re: 1990 W126 560sec Project by Avedonn: 10:54am On Oct 21, 2018
kulikuli45:


You thought right sir.
However, Makurdi (where I bought the car) wasn't my preferred place to work on her. I had to make it drive-able to Abuja, hence the engine touch-up and initial body work. The primer was to give it some sort of 'paint look' instead of the terribly deteriorating skin it had on.

Wheel and tyres was a steal. A good friend found them all for N90k. 18" chromes with 2016 rubber. Almost new. I just had to. Besides, the tyres on the car were gone. I needed to replace them either ways.

So being in Abuja now, we have settled in to the correct work sequence. Engine and Transmission installed yesterday. Wiring ongoing. You know how it is with trial and error ECU and Air flow meter.

Also did some construction to fit the cable throttle system.

Next week will be interior, hopefully.

It'd be nice if you can update us with the expenses so far.

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Re: 1990 W126 560sec Project by kulikuli45: 3:50pm On Oct 21, 2018
Avedonn:


It'd be nice if you can update us with the expenses so far.

Ahhhhh.

I'll have to do some serious maths.

I gave the project a semi open cheque.

But I'm sure I can tabulate the major expenses.

I'll put that up some time soon.

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Re: 1990 W126 560sec Project by HeavenlyBang(m): 5:03pm On Oct 21, 2018
Jakumo:
Kukikuli I am actually shedding bitter tears of sorrow, as I note the cruel blasphemy that has been perpetrated against your Mercedes 500 SEC, by converting it from a once formidable rocket-ship, into a lowly 4-cylinder granny-mobile that can barely propel its own weight on a level road. I am in fact currently praying FEVERISHLY, to Ogun, the God of Iron, to forgive this terrible felonious offence that you have committed against the iconic Mercedes brand name and logo.

If only I were currently present in Nigeria, I would gladly finance your plane fare, or bus fare, so that you could to report to my jungle headquarters, where I would instruct my tenured Babalawo to administer several weighty, pepper-flavored slaps to your quivering face, as reformative punishment that will set a worthy example to all other Nairaland readers, who may be misled by this thread, and tempted to embark on any projects that could similarly emasculate, denigrate, and disfigure a vehicle that started its life as v8-powered flagship automotive classic, only to be reduced into an over-sized and under-powered lawn mower, as you have confessed to doing on this sad day.

Be that as it may, you now have the opportunity to redeem yourself, and regain admission into the Nairaland V8 Brethren Fraternity, so read carefully my recommendations regarding what must be done as a matter of paramount urgency.

Remove that horrid, repulsive little 4-cylinder engine from that SEC of yours, along with its transmission, and its nasty little rear differential, in order to package them all for delivery to the junk yard at Owode Onirin, where you will be rewarded with 5 thousand naira CASH, for your trouble.

Next, starting from a clean slate, go and seek out a nice M117 V8 (with 5-liter, and NOT 4.2 liter displacement), along with its dedicated transmission and rear differential, for IMMEDIATE installation into that car, so as to restore it back to the thrust-to-weight ratio intended for that car by the team of German engineers who crafted that masterpiece in 1990.

When these corrective measures have been implemented to the letter, I will formally notify Egun Agba at his Los Angeles Royal Palace, to apprise him of developments. The Honorable Chairman and Exalted OLUMETO of the Nairaland V8 Brethren Fraternity, will then convene a Panel of Investigation that will deliberate on the gravity of your sins, and the humble sincerity of your proposed atonement. It is only after the White Paper has been published, that you will truly know your fate, therefore it is imperative that you commence this mandated journey to redemption right away.

Thank you for your cooperation, and God Bress Nigeria.

Lol, there's a misconception here. The M104 is an i6 and is one of the greatest engines ever made, alongside the Barra, LS, and 2JZ.

Can put out massive power when modified!
Re: 1990 W126 560sec Project by HeavenlyBang(m): 5:06pm On Oct 21, 2018
EgunMogaji:


I did not respond to you but to the person I quoted. He alleged a 4 banger. If you’re aggrieved then take it up with him.

I find the whole thing a distasteful exercise and a lame attempt to come out as a educated motorist by using engine nomenclatures like that.

EgunMogaji out.

Not sure what you mean but that's literally how Mercedes names its engines.

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Re: 1990 W126 560sec Project by kulikuli45: 8:59pm On Oct 21, 2018
HeavenlyBang:


Lol, there's a misconception here. The M104 is an i6 and is one of the greatest engines ever made, alongside the Barra, LS, and 2JZ.

Can put out massive power when modified!

Thank you my brother.

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Re: 1990 W126 560sec Project by Jakumo(m): 7:14am On Oct 22, 2018
HeavenlyBang:


Lol, there's a misconception here. The M104 is an i6 and is one of the greatest engines ever made, alongside the Barra, LS, and 2JZ.

Can put out massive power when modified!

Ah I see. I must confess that my religion forbids me from paying attention to the nomenclature of all non V8 power-plants, which led me to presume that the M104 was a piddling little four-cylinder lawn-mower engine.

Well, when HeavenlyBang speaks car engines, the wise must sit up and take notes, which I am doing now, albeit with some reluctance.

It just so happens that I own a 1985 year 500 SEC gathering dust in a shed, due to heating issues with the stock engine, that eventually got the better of me, so I am very interested to see how this proposed conversion works out in the power department, even though I still regard the use of any lesser sized engine than a V8, as a brazen act of sacrilege that would likely offend Ogun, the God of Iron.

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Re: 1990 W126 560sec Project by BOUNTYDOG(m): 10:30am On Oct 22, 2018
kulikuli45:


Ahhhhh.

I'll have to do some serious maths.

I gave the project a semi open cheque.

But I'm sure I can tabulate the major expenses.

I'll put that up some time soon.

If only you can get it to work with the M112 or M113, it would ve been a better project and I think the engine n gear of the m112/M113 should be cheaper than the M104 u plan to use
Re: 1990 W126 560sec Project by BOUNTYDOG(m): 10:33am On Oct 22, 2018
You will have a better economy and more power enter,plus pocket friendly if u got the m112

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Re: 1990 W126 560sec Project by xfay(m): 2:22pm On Oct 22, 2018
BOUNTYDOG:
You will have a better economy and more power enter,plus pocket friendly if u got the m112
it's a toss between the two actually the m104 is easier to retrofit. It can be used with a hydraulic 722.3 simplifying the wiring to just the engine. The m112 will be challenging to make function properly with its can bus and other modern car system absent in the old w126

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Re: 1990 W126 560sec Project by xfay(m): 2:28pm On Oct 22, 2018
BOUNTYDOG:


If only you can get it to work with the M112 or M113, it would ve been a better project and I think the engine n gear of the m112/M113 should be cheaper than the M104 u plan to use
. Will the exhaust manifold clear the steering box ? These are 90° V wide engines. The m117 is little bit narrower and the manifold has been designed to clear the box and other things. As mentioned b4 an alternative to the m104 (which is a nice choice ) is the lexus 1uzfe the early models, bullet prove, relatively easy to wire, provided the exhaust manifold clears the body or custom ones can be made
Re: 1990 W126 560sec Project by kulikuli45: 2:37pm On Oct 22, 2018
xfay:
. Will the exhaust manifold clear the steering box ? These are 90° V wide engines. The m117 is little bit narrower and the manifold has been designed to clear the box and other things. As mentioned b4 an alternative to the m104 (which is a nice choice ) is the lexus 1uzfe the early models, bullet prove, relatively easy to wire, provided the exhaust manifold clears the body or custom ones can be made

How about the Toyota 1Fz-Fe? Awesome engine too. I haven't seen it in a non-4wd vehicle though.
Re: 1990 W126 560sec Project by kulikuli45: 2:39pm On Oct 22, 2018
BOUNTYDOG:


If only you can get it to work with the M112 or M113, it would ve been a better project and I think the engine n gear of the m112/M113 should be cheaper than the M104 u plan to use

Great engine, byt modern electrics will be a major issue. Also fitting Power steering box, as against steering rack.
Re: 1990 W126 560sec Project by kingreign(m): 2:58pm On Oct 22, 2018
cool
Re: 1990 W126 560sec Project by enitiObanke(m): 4:38pm On Oct 22, 2018
kulikuli45:


How about the Toyota 1Fz-Fe? Awesome engine too. I haven't seen it in a non-4wd vehicle though.

Kulikuli45, pls cud email me back? I sent u an anonymous NL email just so dt i can open a direct line of communication wit u. Thanks
Re: 1990 W126 560sec Project by weyreypey: 12:46am On Oct 23, 2018
BOUNTYDOG:


If only you can get it to work with the M112 or M113, it would ve been a better project and I think the engine n gear of the m112/M113 should be cheaper than the M104 u plan to use

DAS 2 OR DAS3? IT IS A NO NO TOO MUCH ELECTRICS
Re: 1990 W126 560sec Project by kulikuli45: 6:34am On Oct 23, 2018
enitiObanke:


Kulikuli45, pls cud email me back? I sent u an anonymous NL email just so dt i can open a direct line of communication wit u. Thanks

Me nuh see nuttin
Re: 1990 W126 560sec Project by xfay(m): 11:56am On Oct 23, 2018
kulikuli45:


How about the Toyota 1Fz-Fe? Awesome engine too. I haven't seen it in a non-4wd vehicle though.
fuel consumption and weight then non 4wd gearbox availability perhaps
Re: 1990 W126 560sec Project by HeavenlyBang(m): 4:55pm On Oct 23, 2018
Put a VQ in it. Or an LS swap. cheesy
Re: 1990 W126 560sec Project by mammanbawa: 8:39pm On Oct 23, 2018
HeavenlyBang:
Put a VQ in it. Or an LS swap. cheesy
So he'll have a hybrid
Wolf in lion's clothing

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Re: 1990 W126 560sec Project by HeavenlyBang(m): 10:51pm On Oct 23, 2018
mammanbawa:

So he'll have a hybrid
Wolf in lion's clothing
grin grin

Both are solid engines, though I don't think any of the two would be actual fits.
Re: 1990 W126 560sec Project by BOUNTYDOG(m): 10:54pm On Oct 23, 2018
kulikuli45:


Great engine, byt modern electrics will be a major issue. Also fitting Power steering box, as against steering rack.

True
I Neva thought about that
I always worry when you have to change a car's engine
Even if it's same engine
When you change it entirely to a different engine,I will hardly drive that car with peace of mind
Re: 1990 W126 560sec Project by mammanbawa: 8:59am On Oct 24, 2018
HeavenlyBang:

grin grin

Both are solid engines, though I don't think any of the two would be actual fits.
Modern electrics will be a very serious issue
Tome, the best option is the M119 used in the legendary w124

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Re: 1990 W126 560sec Project by kulikuli45: 11:11am On Oct 26, 2018
M104 installation successful.
Started and ran smoothly after swapping ECU thrice.

Throttle modification from rod to cable ongoing. It's been tough getting the right throttle pedal for reconstruction.

Streetrun hopefully on a couple of days.

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Re: 1990 W126 560sec Project by HeavenlyBang(m): 12:33pm On Oct 26, 2018
kulikuli45:
M104 installation successful.
Started and ran smoothly after swapping ECU thrice.

Throttle modification from rod to cable ongoing. It's been tough getting the right throttle pedal for reconstruction.

Streetrun hopefully on a couple of days.

Sweet. Do the necessary test drives then clean that engine bay up, edakun.

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Re: 1990 W126 560sec Project by kulikuli45: 1:05pm On Oct 26, 2018
HeavenlyBang:


Sweet. Do the necessary test drives then clean that engine bay up, edakun.

grin grin grin
Yes naaa.
Test drive before clean up.
I go even refurbish the valve cover sef.

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