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Re: Tonyebarcanista And Co, Come And See Someones Attestation RESULT. by socialmediaman: 8:03am On Nov 04
rafindo:
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After showing is attestation, you now result to is unbelievable chant. My bro your hate for this man will make you commit suicide.

Do you have to use foul or harsh language to make a comment? What would happen if you left your comment at the bolded?

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Re: Tonyebarcanista And Co, Come And See Someones Attestation RESULT. by escodotman: 8:11am On Nov 04
tinsel:

Nwannem , abum onye igbo. What you young ones are doing here are putting igbos scattered across the federation and put with stakes in other tribes into serious trouble.
What gives you the impression that I am Igbo?

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Re: Tonyebarcanista And Co, Come And See Someones Attestation RESULT. by escodotman: 8:16am On Nov 04
allthingsgood:


I don't know if the problem is your flat brain or just plain old daftness. You are referring me to a name he used in school as well as results released online, but are still arguing that he didn't go to school. Isn't that sheer stupidity
Smh

You ipob wailers need to apply for a brain asap
Address the fact that he used mohamed and not mohammadu before. You guys brains are all under your feet, that's why you could never reason intellectually but like a programmed zombie. No one is saying he didn't go to school, but the issue is whether he finished to write WAEC or absconded to join the military! Foolish zombies.

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Re: Tonyebarcanista And Co, Come And See Someones Attestation RESULT. by dotcodotuk: 8:31am On Nov 04
jumpandpas:



See him insulting people upanda.

If Buhari's WAEC is with the military, why did he go and forge another one?

Go and call police
Re: Tonyebarcanista And Co, Come And See Someones Attestation RESULT. by escodotman: 8:34am On Nov 04
Officialpdpnig:


You keep passing around ignorance mixed with idiocy like hot akara on a cold morning.

Buhari is a public individual because you can hold him accountable and also because his life is now in the limelight but not so when it comes to personal and private information about him which by law, only his approval can reveal.

Your understanding of the term "public office holder" is nonsensical


He is holding a public office and not living a public life.

The office is the focus and not his life.

I have told you to go and trade in that knocked engine you have in your head for a working model but you are still bent on showing off this your gargantuan levels of doltishness.
I had already distanced myself from an uneducated nitwit like you when it became obvious that you are already a lost cause but you keep displaying utter madness like a thug that APC supporters are! Freedom of Information Act is applicable to all public office holders. This is the premise on which SERAP wrote to NYSC to demand the information on the status of the former minister of finace. There are other many examples. Rather than reason like a sane individual that you are not, you have decided to act like a lunatic that you are and keep defending an obvious fraud. I must confess your brain has completely degenrated and your thinking capacity is irreparably damaged.

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Re: Tonyebarcanista And Co, Come And See Someones Attestation RESULT. by TonyeBarcanista(m): 8:44am On Nov 04
dotcodotuk:
HATRED BLINDS!

A friend sat for his GCE decades ago. See pic. 1 for a COPY of his WAEC issued certificate. Several years later, he lost the original certificate. He swore to an affidavit in a court of law and applied for attestation of his results. WAEC verified his identification and issued an attestation which includes his then current passport photograph. See pic 2. My friend is lucky he had a copy of his certificate. If he hadn't, he would have only had to make do with a statement of result by his alma mater pending the issuance of the attestation by WAEC. By the way, this friend is a private Nigerian who has never been a local government councilor!

It is revealing of the danger we are facing as a country that people who, at the drop of a hat, will remind us of how 'educated', 'exposed', 'sophisticated', 'travelled' they are cannot reason better than my 'Maigadi' that doesn't have a primary school certificate. In spite of all their claims to 'education', they have zilch or only little understanding of administration and politics. No wonder someone, with a Teacher Training Certificate, the equivalent of no more than a GCE beat them with their 'PhDs' and they could only resort to killing the man! Their 'education' wasn't sufficient to counter his integrity, sincerity, love for his people and the wisdom he acquired from age-old time-tested and proven truisms.

May God save us from hatred. It renders any and all 'education' useless!
The friend lost his own original certificate and swore to affidavit to that effect.

However, Buhari LIED that his was with the military board only to go behind to do Oluwole certificate. Is Buhari originals with military board or has he suddenly found it?

There is something fishy in Buhari's stuff and this every Nigerian know.

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Re: Tonyebarcanista And Co, Come And See Someones Attestation RESULT. by seanfer: 8:53am On Nov 04
TonyeBarcanista:

The friend lost his own original certificate and swore to affidavit to that effect.

However, Buhari LIED that his was with the military board only to go behind to do Oluwole certificate. Is Buhari originals with military board or has he suddenly found it?

There is something fishy in Buhari's stuff and this every Nigerian know.

Sir I respected you a lot, please don’t let your emotions override your actions...Major Hamza Al’Mustspha when submitting his form to INEC also submitted a sworn affidavit claiming he’s Educational Certificates are with the military.. Why are people not crucifying Him?

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Re: Tonyebarcanista And Co, Come And See Someones Attestation RESULT. by TonyeBarcanista(m): 9:03am On Nov 04
seanfer:


Sir I respected you a lot, please don’t let your emotions override your actions...Major Hamza Al’Mustspha when submitting his form to INEC also submitted a sworn affidavit claiming he’s Educational Certificates are with the military.. Why are people not crucifying Him?

Mustapha was explicit!

He never submitted any document to military, his house was raided after the demise of Abacha and his document stolen. He was in prison for 12 years and on regaining freedom he got an order from the court to mandate the military to release his properties that they confisticated, this the military ignored. It is safe therefore to say his is with the military. However, I will question his claims IF he had gone behind to collect "Attestation" of it from WAEC.

I'm not trying to be petty bro

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Re: Tonyebarcanista And Co, Come And See Someones Attestation RESULT. by fedorahat: 9:09am On Nov 04
TonyeBarcanista:

The friend lost his own original certificate and swore to affidavit to that effect.

However, Buhari LIED that his was with the military board only to go behind to do Oluwole certificate. Is Buhari originals with military board or has he suddenly found it?

There is something fishy in Buhari's stuff and this every Nigerian know.


Guy, you better pass this nonsense wey you just type na.

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Re: Tonyebarcanista And Co, Come And See Someones Attestation RESULT. by Racoon(m): 9:53am On Nov 04
socialmediaman:
The truth is that Buhari has lost the goodwill that brought him to power in 2015. Greed wouldn’t let him take the honorable path and resign or do 1 term and let someone more capable lead the country.

He’s no longer believable and Nigerians do not trust him or his promises again because guess what? He failed on every single important promise he made to Nigerians.

By the way, where are the looters Buhari promised to bring to book? Where are the petrol subsidy cabals Buhari promised to prosecute? Who are those phantom looters that returned trillions of dollars while Buhari goes around the world borrowing? How did Babachir Lawal escape justice? What about Kemi Adeosun? Ganduje? What happened to the $45million found in Lagos apartment? How did those involved in budget padding escape justice? Why is Buhari doing 2 terms after promising to do one term?

Buhari is no different from his predecessors in terms of lies, broken promises and corruption, but he’s worse than them on economic management.

Certificate or none, Buhari failed woefully and should not be on the 2019 ballot, but since he is, we’re waiting for him at the polls, that’s where we’ll have the final say!
Re: Tonyebarcanista And Co, Come And See Someones Attestation RESULT. by seanfer: 10:03am On Nov 04
TonyeBarcanista:


Mustapha was explicit!

He never submitted any document to military, his house was raided after the demise of Abacha and his document stolen. He was in prison for 12 years and on regaining freedom he got an order from the court to mandate the military to release his properties that they confisticated, this the military ignored. It is safe therefore to say his is with the military. However, I will question his claims IF he had gone behind to collect "Attestation" of it from WAEC.

I'm not trying to be petty bro

If you say that Mustapha's house was raided by the Military and he was in prison.... Can you remember Buhari's house was also raided in 1985 and he was incarcerated by IBB..... What took the Military so long to come out and clear the air on Buhari's Certificate even when PDP was in power they didn't mandated the Military to clear the Issue... I think what's good for goose is good for Gander.....
Have you checked the Letter Reni posted online that it was written to WAEC in Ghana and not the one in Nigeria but he still come out to defend something that is not right.... Sometimes i ask myself why this Level of Hatred for PMB by those who contributed to this mess we are right now?

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Re: Tonyebarcanista And Co, Come And See Someones Attestation RESULT. by seanfer: 10:08am On Nov 04
TonyeBarcanista:


Mustapha was explicit!

He never submitted any document to military, his house was raided after the demise of Abacha and his document stolen. He was in prison for 12 years and on regaining freedom he got an order from the court to mandate the military to release his properties that they confisticated, this the military ignored. It is safe therefore to say his is with the military. However, I will question his claims IF he had gone behind to collect "Attestation" of it from WAEC.

I'm not trying to be petty bro

If you say that Mustapha's house was raided by the Military and he was in prison.... Can you remember Buhari's house was also raided in 1985 and he was incarcerated by IBB..... What took the Military so long to come out and clear the air on Buhari's Certificate even when PDP was in power they didn't mandated the Military to clear the Issue... I think what's good for goose is good for Gander.....
Have you checked the Letter Reni posted online that it was written to WAEC in Ghana and not the one in Nigeria but he still come out to defend something

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Re: Tonyebarcanista And Co, Come And See Someones Attestation RESULT. by TonyeBarcanista(m): 10:11am On Nov 04
seanfer:


If you say that Mustapha's house was raided by the Military and he was in prison.... Can you remember Buhari's house was also raided in 1985 and he was incarcerated by IBB..... What took the Military so long to come out and clear the air on Buhari's Certificate even when PDP was in power they didn't mandated the Military to clear the Issue... I think what's good for goose is good for Gander.....
Have you checked the Letter Reni posted online that it was written to WAEC in Ghana and not the one in Nigeria but he still come out to defend something that is not right.... Sometimes i ask myself why this Level of Hatred for PMB by those who contributed to this mess we are right now?
Now, how can Buhari allege that his credentials is with the military and at the same time apply to WAEC that same credentials was missing/stolen? This was the basis he was supposedly issued the Attestation.

I DON'T hate President Buhari, I wasn't brought up to hate but things aren't clicking.
Re: Tonyebarcanista And Co, Come And See Someones Attestation RESULT. by seanfer: 10:17am On Nov 04
TonyeBarcanista:

Now, how can Buhari allege that his credentials is with the military and at the same time apply to WAEC that same credentials was missing/stolen? This was the basis he was supposedly issued the Attestation.

I DON'T hate President Buhari, I wasn't brought up to hate but things aren't clicking.

If the Military can't provide his Credentials and the are not in His custody, I don't think it is a bad thing for him to make use of the ways provided by law to get a copy from the relevant agency in charge of it..... I'm sure you can see the Attestation posted here... And please i will like to know if you've read the Letter Reno Omokri posted online and tell me your unbiased opinion about that Letter and the Propaganda Reno is trying to create...

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Re: Tonyebarcanista And Co, Come And See Someones Attestation RESULT. by TonyeBarcanista(m): 10:29am On Nov 04
seanfer:


If the Military can't provide his Credentials and the are not in His custody, I don't think it is a bad thing for him to make use of the ways provided by law to get a copy from the relevant agency in charge of it..... I'm sure you can see the Attestation posted here... And please i will like to know if you've read the Letter Reno Omokri posted online and tell me your unbiased opinion about that Letter and the Propaganda Reno is trying to create...
Bros, if I say my car is in your possession, I can't turnaround to claim my car is missing except you admit that my car was stolen in your possession. In this case, YOU not me, is meant to make appropriate report.

The military in 2015 claimed they had no idea of Buhari credentials while Buhari insisted it was with them. Except the military officially wrote Buhari that same was missing in their custody, there is no legal basis for Buhari to claim missing/damaged originals and thereby claiming Attestation.

May I add that if Buhari mean business, he would simply submit the result statement he obtained from Katsina state ministry of education to INEC.

NB: The constitution did not specify WAEC certificate, it simply say "evidence of Secondary education or equivalent", which a result statement or even testimonial was enough.

I guess he insisted on the military board route to avoid litigation on possible misrepresentation.

This is purely my opinion on this and it has no political or ethnic bias

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Re: Tonyebarcanista And Co, Come And See Someones Attestation RESULT. by KanuJEWSarePIGS: 11:05am On Nov 04
vedaxcool:
Athiefku has stolen the brains of his zombies and used it for elections rituals.

Aided by Peter Obi who bought all for a paltry sum of N90 each.

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Re: Tonyebarcanista And Co, Come And See Someones Attestation RESULT. by Nobody: 11:36am On Nov 04
The world has advanced beyond what Buhari can handle. We are developing AI devices, IoT peripherals, neural lace and machine language and Nigeria is breeding illiteracy into the world.

This is why population control nannites are tested in Africa and the wars are sponsored to get rid of inferior stocks of the species.

Stop supporting stagnacy friends
Re: Tonyebarcanista And Co, Come And See Someones Attestation RESULT. by oyatz: 12:14pm On Nov 04
1) In 2014-2015 when this issue came up,which you said 'Move for Nigeria' wrote to WAEC demanding for verification or replicate of Buhari's Sch cert result, Buhari was a private citizen and NOT yet the President.


2) Scrutiny of the conducts and lives of an office holder doesn't abrogate the rules of law, regulations and organizational policies of corporate international bodies like WAEC.

If Buhari had applied to study or seek for employment in an institution called 'Move for Nigeria', then they have a locus standi to write to WAEC for a verification of his results but they can't wake up from the wrong side of the bed (after good sales at Alaba or Onitsha markets and drenching themselves in cheap orijin or Sapele water) then write to WAEC demanding for copies of Buhari's certificate.


You or 'Move for Nigeria' can't write to WAEC to demand for verification of your Governor's or LG Chairman's results because they are holding public offices.

ONLY the courts have such powers.



Buhari may be a bad man and you can hate Buhari for whatever reasons but this may not necessarily affect the position of the laws.








escodotman:
Go and be enlightened. The moment you become a public office holder, you are no longer a private citizen and your present life, including your past becomes a public property also, and they are all subject to public scrutiny. The only thing that is private to you is your medical status. It is like this all over the world. Seun Osewa, Nnamdi Kanu, Charlie Boy are all private citizens and no one has any right to demand for their documents unless they are seeking for employment from that same body or institution. Hope you are more enlightened now....

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Re: Tonyebarcanista And Co, Come And See Someones Attestation RESULT. by oyatz: 12:25pm On Nov 04
Bros, I have always admired the few people left on Nairaland like You and Abagworo who debate issues intelligently without the childish banters that now characterize this forum.

If I understand your post well, you no longer doubt that Buhari is educated or that he wrote School certificate exam conducted by Cambridge/WAEC but you are not comfortable with the ways WAEC issued attestation of results to him?
Is that your grouse now?








TonyeBarcanista:

Now, how can Buhari allege that his credentials is with the military and at the same time apply to WAEC that same credentials was missing/stolen? This was the basis he was supposedly issued the Attestation.

I DON'T hate President Buhari, I wasn't brought up to hate but things aren't clicking.
Re: Tonyebarcanista And Co, Come And See Someones Attestation RESULT. by oyatz: 12:42pm On Nov 04
Most of these Wailers just argue base on emotions instead of logic and reasons.

Many of them are badly educated traders in Alaba or Onitsha main markets whose understanding of Law, politics or economics is grossly shallow.
It would have been better if they keep their opinions to themselves but they come to online public forum and t want to express it as the gospel truths.




Officialpdpnig:


You keep passing around ignorance mixed with idiocy like hot akara on a cold morning.

Buhari is a public individual because you can hold him accountable and also because his life is now in the limelight but not so when it comes to personal and private information about him which by law, only his approval can reveal.

Your understanding of the term "public office holder" is nonsensical


He is holding a public office and not living a public life.

The office is the focus and not his life.

I have told you to go and trade in that knocked engine you have in your head for a working model but you are still bent on showing off this your gargantuan levels of doltishness.
Re: Tonyebarcanista And Co, Come And See Someones Attestation RESULT. by escodotman: 2:24pm On Nov 04
oyatz:
1) In 2014-2015 when this issue came up,which you said 'Move for Nigeria' wrote to WAEC demanding for verification or replicate of Buhari's Sch cert result, Buhari was a private citizen and NOT yet the President.


2) Scrutiny of the conducts and lives of an office holder doesn't abrogate the rules of law, regulations and organizational policies of corporate international bodies like WAEC.

If Buhari had applied to study or seek for employment in an institution called 'Move for Nigeria', then they have a locus standi to write to WAEC for a verification of his results but they can't wake up from the wrong side of the bed (after good sales at Alaba or Onitsha markets and drenching themselves in cheap orijin or Sapele water) then write to WAEC demanding for copies of Buhari's certificate.


You or 'Move for Nigeria' can't write to WAEC to demand for verification of your Governor's or LG Chairman's results because they are holding public offices.

ONLY the courts have such powers.



Buhari may be a bad man and you can hate Buhari for whatever reasons but this may not necessarily affect the position of the laws.








You are wrong again. Go and find out about FOI ACT (Freedom of Information) which became a law during Jonathan's administration. Once you are a public office holder, your life, past and present also becomes a public property, you are no longer a private citizen! This is to ensure the people elect leaders with integrity and also check if the credentials presented by an elected leader or a political office appointee is genuine or not. It was because of this FOI act SERAP wrote to the NYSC to demand the status of the former minister of finace which should have been her personal property, why, because she was a political office holder! It was on this same premise of FOI Act that Civil Society Organisations wrote to the presidency to demand for the amount Buhari spent for his medical trip. This same FOI Act enabled PREMIUM TIME newspaper uncover the fact that the minister of communication didn't undergo NYSC. There are many other examples, just to prove to you that once you become a public office holder, you are no longer entitled to your privacy.
Re: Tonyebarcanista And Co, Come And See Someones Attestation RESULT. by escodotman: 2:28pm On Nov 04
oyatz:
Most of these Wailers just argue base on emotions instead of logic and reasons.

Many of them are badly educated traders in Alaba or Onitsha main markets whose understanding of Law, politics or economics is grossly shallow.
It would have been better if they keep their opinions to themselves but they come to online public forum and t want to express it as the gospel truths.




It is you zombies who have been blinded by your unpatriotic support for a fraud and an illetrate and bahave as if you've been programmed like a robot to keep asslicking him even in the face of obvious failure!
Re: Tonyebarcanista And Co, Come And See Someones Attestation RESULT. by TonyeBarcanista(m): 7:30pm On Nov 04
oyatz:
Bros, I have always admired the few people left on Nairaland like You and Abagworo who debate issues intelligently without the childish banters that now characterize this forum.

If I understand your post well, you no longer doubt that Buhari is educated or that he wrote School certificate exam conducted by Cambridge/WAEC but you are not comfortable with the ways WAEC issued attestation of results to him?
Is that your grouse now?
My Brother, there are two issues here which are conflicting and parallel.

1. Is Buhari's originals with military board?

2. Is Buhari's originals missing/stolen/destroyed?

Now, if he says they are with the military board, that means they are not presumed to be missing/stolen or destroyed, as such, he has no basis to obtain Attestation of Certificate, which is only issued when originals has been stolen, missing or destroyed.

If my car is in your custody, I can't claim it is missing. If it is missing in your custody, you are the one to make report that the car is stolen or missing. Except you state such, I have no locus standi to file for missing vehicle.

If I go to station to report that my car has been stolen and at same time say it is in your custody, it becomes contradictory.

Now let me chip in, what prevented Buhari from submitting the statement of result he obtained from Katsina state ministry of education to INEC? This would have saved us all these troubles.
Re: Tonyebarcanista And Co, Come And See Someones Attestation RESULT. by CilicMarin: 7:44pm On Nov 04
TonyeBarcanista:

My Brother, there are two issues here which are conflicting and parallel.

1. Is Buhari's originals with military board?

2. Is Buhari's originals missing/stolen/destroyed?

Now, if he says they are with the military board, that means they are not presumed to be missing/stolen or destroyed, as such, he has no basis to obtain Attestation of Certificate, which is only issued when originals has been stolen, missing or destroyed.

If my car is in your custody, I can't claim it is missing. If it is missing in your custody, you are the one to make report that the car is stolen or missing. Except you state such, I have no locus standi to file for missing vehicle.

If I go to station to report that my car has been stolen and at same time say it is in your custody, it becomes contradictory.

Now let me chip in, what prevented Buhari from submitting the statement of result he obtained from Katsina state ministry of education to INEC? This would have saved us all these troubles.


Stop digging further, you are already in a hole.

First, Buhari claimed in his affidavit that The military carted away his credentials when they raided his house in 1983.

Second, The military denied being possession of the said credential....meaning along the way it was misplaced.

There is nothing wrong in swearing an affidavit in "Good Fate" believing the same to be correct.

I have sworn an affidavit of a lost ID card, Sim cards etc which I later found in my house. That is the reason all affidavits are made in "Good FATE".

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Re: Tonyebarcanista And Co, Come And See Someones Attestation RESULT. by Mace0lane: 7:51pm On Nov 04
Jokerman:


What have you done as a Yoruba man in your society to show love to others
My dear I don’t show love to people whose soul is fraught with irredeemable endemic hate for others. That we all know is the Igbo tribe. Igbo hate no one but claim Hausa Fulani Ikwerre Yoruba Malaysian Singaporeans Indians South Africans Arabs hate them. What a pathetic tribe, is that kind of shity tribe I should waste my precious love on ? Mbanu !
Re: Tonyebarcanista And Co, Come And See Someones Attestation RESULT. by oyatz: 9:15pm On Nov 04
Did you read my post very well before you replied?
Read it again, this time slowly and digest it.


1) Gen Buhari was NOT a public office holder in 2014-2015 when you said 'Move for Nigeria' requested for a verification of his WAEC results

2) Freedom of information act is a Nigerian law binding on Nigerians and Nigerian institutions but not without limitations.
a) WAEC is not a Nigerian institution

b) FOI act will only come into this issue IF Buhari had submitted the certificate to INEC, which you as a citizen or 'Move for Nigeria' can request for to scrutinize it but you can't rely on the FOI act to request from WAEC to furnish you details about a certificate that was never submitted to any Nigerian institution.

3) In the Minister's case, a fake NYSC exemption certificate was submitted to the Government to enable her get an appointment and as such ,you can go to Government office to request for it but you can't ask for certain private details about her which aren't directly related to Government ,for instance asking her school to furnish you about her grades or source of the money she used to pay for tuition fees.

4) Section 131 of the construction is clear on eligibility for an election.
The constitution require that a prospective candidate be educated up to at least school certificate level or its equivalents.
The interpretation clause in Section 138 explicitly states the meaning of 'Its equivalents' which include being able to read and write in English and working in any Government office for up to 10 years.
There is no mention of WAEC certificate in the constitution or even the affidavit sworn to by Buhari.
The spokesman of the PDP campaign organization in 2015, FFK brought the issue of WAEC certificate into the matter.

5) If the PDP , the wailers, IPOBians and others feel that Buhari is not educated up to School certificate level or that he lied in the affidavit he sworn to, stating that his CREDENTIALS (not exactly the same thing as WAEC certificate) are with the Military Board, they can approach the courts which can determine whether Buhari indeed attended a Secondary school and many Military institutions he claimed to attend.




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escodotman:
You are wrong again. Go and find out about FOI ACT (Freedom of Information) which became a law during Jonathan's administration. Once you are a public office holder, your life, past and present also becomes a public property, you are no longer a private citizen! This is to ensure the people elect leaders with integrity and also check if the credentials presented by an elected leader or a political office appointee is genuine or not. It was because of this FOI act SERAP wrote to the NYSC to demand the status of the former minister of finace which should have been her personal property, why, because she was a political office holder! It was on this same premise of FOI Act that Civil Society Organisations wrote to the presidency to demand for the amount Buhari spent for his medical trip. This same FOI Act enabled PREMIUM TIME newspaper uncover the fact that the minister of communication didn't undergo NYSC. There are many other examples, just to prove to you that once you become a public office holder, you are no longer entitled to your privacy.
Re: Tonyebarcanista And Co, Come And See Someones Attestation RESULT. by escodotman: 8:41am On Nov 05
oyatz:

b) FOI act will only come into this issue IF Buhari had submitted the certificate to INEC, which you as a citizen or 'Move for Nigeria' can request for to scrutinize it but you can't rely on the FOI act to request from WAEC to furnish you details about a certificate that was never submitted to any Nigerian institution.
4) Section 131 of the construction is clear on eligibility for an election.
The constitution require that a prospective candidate be educated up to at least school certificate level or its equivalents.
The interpretation clause in Section 138 explicitly states the meaning of 'Its equivalents' which include being able to read and write in English and working in any Government office for up to 10 years.
There is no mention of WAEC certificate in the constitution or even the affidavit sworn to by Buhari.
The spokesman of the PDP campaign organization in 2015, FFK brought the issue of WAEC certificate into the matter.

5) If the PDP , the wailers, IPOBians and others feel that Buhari is not educated up to School certificate level or that he lied in the affidavit he sworn to, stating that his CREDENTIALS (not exactly the same thing as WAEC certificate) are with the Military Board, they can approach the courts which can determine whether Buhari indeed attended a Secondary school and many Military institutions he claimed to attend.




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Read all those things you put up there again. You are trying to twist facts or trying be clever by half! You said General Buhari was not a public office holder then but you forgot to mention that he was aspiring to be one, and had even became a candidate of a political party! Are you saying they should have allowed General Buhari to win the elction first and become a public office holder before they could scrutinize his acclaimed credential? What kind of twisted argument is that? Again, you said FOI is only inding on Nigerian institutions, is WAEC Nigeria not domiciled in Nigeria, on Nigerian territory and bound by Nigerian LAWS and as such not a Nigerian institution? You said since General Buhari didn't submit any certificate, FOI wouldn't come into play, what is wrong with Nigerians?? So all Nigerians who want to get into higher institution or get a job can just submit an affidavit and tell their prospective employers that their certificate is somewhere else even if they are lying and possess no certificate at all, and the claim shouldn't be probed or scrutinize because they didn't submit their any certificate all?? How did Nigeria get here? You argument that the constitution says a person must be educated up to a certain level, now, how do we know such a person is actually educated if he/she has no prove, which is a CERTIFICATE? Your argument is typical of zombies who all always try to twist obvious facts to cover up their incompetent god. Zombies should know that you can't approach the courts for everything, else it would be tantamount to abuse of judicial process!
Re: Tonyebarcanista And Co, Come And See Someones Attestation RESULT. by oyatz: 4:42pm On Nov 05
The problem with people like you is that you attach too much emotions and less of logic to your arguments.

You don't read the constitution but you assume that your opinions must be equal to the law

Section 131 of the Constitution is crystal clear on who is eligible to contest for an election.

The interpretation clause in section 138 further clear all forms of ambiguity.

The electoral act even enjoin anyone who feels the information a prospective candidate supply in his forms is false to challenge it in court.

If the PDP and the wailers think they have any case, the most appropriate thing is to challenge the eligibility of Buhari to contest and not cyber or media blackmail.


The Law is an ass, the law at times may not necessarily agree with our opinions, expectations, preferences or wishes but the law is the law.

Buhari with a Masters Degree in Strategic Studies from an American military university (The US War College) is adequately qualify to run for an election.

Calling people that separate personal hatred and prejudices from rational debates zombies don't and won't change the law.



escodotman:
Read all those things you put up there again. You are trying to twist facts or trying be clever by half! You said General Buhari was not a public office holder then but you forgot to mention that he was aspiring to be one, and had even became a candidate of a political party! Are you saying they should have allowed General Buhari to win the elction first and become a public office holder before they could scrutinize his acclaimed credential? What kind of twisted argument is that? Again, you said FOI is only inding on Nigerian institutions, is WAEC Nigeria not domiciled in Nigeria, on Nigerian territory and bound by Nigerian LAWS and as such not a Nigerian institution? You said since General Buhari didn't submit any certificate, FOI wouldn't come into play, what is wrong with Nigerians?? So all Nigerians who want to get into higher institution or get a job can just submit an affidavit and tell their prospective employers that their certificate is somewhere else even if they are lying and possess no certificate at all, and the claim shouldn't be probed or scrutinize because they didn't submit their any certificate all?? How did Nigeria get here? You argument that the constitution says a person must be educated up to a certain level, now, how do we know such a person is actually educated if he/she has no prove, which is a CERTIFICATE? Your argument is typical of zombies who all always try to twist obvious facts to cover up their incompetent god. Zombies should know that you can't approach the courts for everything, else it would be tantamount to abuse of judicial process!

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Re: Tonyebarcanista And Co, Come And See Someones Attestation RESULT. by escodotman: 8:10pm On Nov 05
oyatz:
The problem with people like you is that you attach too much emotions and less of logic to your arguments.

You don't read the constitution but you assume that your opinions must be equal to the law

Section 131 of the Constitution is crystal clear on who is eligible to contest for an election.

The interpretation clause in section 138 further clear all forms of ambiguity.

The electoral act even enjoin anyone who feels the information a prospective candidate supply in his forms is false to challenge it in court.

If the PDP and the wailers think they have any case, the most appropriate thing is to challenge the eligibility of Buhari to contest and not cyber or media blackmail.


The Law is an ass, the law at times may not necessarily agree with our opinions, expectations, preferences or wishes but the law is the law.

Buhari with a Masters Degree in Strategic Studies from an American military university (The US War College) is adequately qualify to run for an election.

Calling people that separate personal hatred and prejudices from rational debates zombies don't and won't change the law.



No matter how much you try hard to prove your god's educational background, by even trying to make the law his alibi, it still doesn't change the fact that a publich office holder is not a private citizen. Your statement on going to challenge a public office holder's credentials in court is nonsense. If it were an opposition's educational background that is generating much controversy like Buhari's, zombies wouldn't mind setting the country on fire. Buhari didn't ask Nigerians, including his zombies, to go to court to check if Kemi Adeosun's NYSC's certificate was fake or not before sacking her. APC didn't ask Nigerians and the zombies to go to court to ''scrutinize'' if Adebayo Shittu was eligible to contest Oyo state governorship primary because he DID NOT SUBMIT NYSC CERTIFICATE before he was prevented from contesting after he bought the form (remember, just as buhari didn't submit WAEC certificate). It is a known fact that there are companies in Nigeria who still double-check the credentials that their employees submitted by contacting their varoius institutions. I guess in the eyes of zombies, the rules that apply to Nigerians do not apply to Buhari! Asking people to go to cour, so that the courts would ask WAEC if Buhari actually had certificate is hilarious! Calling people who want the law and due process to be respected ''wailers'' and ''IPOBians'' wouldn't change anything.
Re: Tonyebarcanista And Co, Come And See Someones Attestation RESULT. by oyatz: 10:30am On Nov 06
You keep parambulating without establishing a prima facie case against Buhari.

What exactly are we dealing with? Has Buhari committed any crime or a misdemeanor?

1) Is it a case of forgery of a WAEC certificate by Buhari, which is a criminal case?
2) Do you think Buhari lied under oath by swearing an affidavit that is false, an equally grave allegation punishable by law?
3) Is it that Buhari is not educated and ineligible to contest for an election?

What exactly is the bone of contention?

The PDP and its wailers need to be specific on what they feel is wrong which can be challenged by legal means instead of throwing tantrums all over the cyber space.

Your present crying on Nairaland will not yield anything,so save yourself the headache and file a suit in court to stop Buhari from contesting. This is the most appropriate and civilized thing to do, not abusing people online or drawing unrelated cases into the matter.

Every case should and will be determined on its merits (not what happen elsewhere or in another case).




escodotman:
No matter how much you try hard to prove your god's educational background, by even trying to make the law his alibi, it still doesn't change the fact that a publich office holder is not a private citizen. Your statement on going to challenge a public office holder's credentials in court is nonsense. If it were an opposition's educational background that is generating much controversy like Buhari's, zombies wouldn't mind setting the country on fire. Buhari didn't ask Nigerians, including his zombies, to go to court to check if Kemi Adeosun's NYSC's certificate was fake or not before sacking her. APC didn't ask Nigerians and the zombies to go to court to ''scrutinize'' if Adebayo Shittu was eligible to contest Oyo state governorship primary because he DID NOT SUBMIT NYSC CERTIFICATE before he was prevented from contesting after he bought the form (remember, just as buhari didn't submit WAEC certificate). It is a known fact that there are companies in Nigeria who still double-check the credentials that their employees submitted by contacting their varoius institutions. I guess in the eyes of zombies, the rules that apply to Nigerians do not apply to Buhari! Asking people to go to cour, so that the courts would ask WAEC if Buhari actually had certificate is hilarious! Calling people who want the law and due process to be respected ''wailers'' and ''IPOBians'' wouldn't change anything.
Re: Tonyebarcanista And Co, Come And See Someones Attestation RESULT. by escodotman: 6:20am On Nov 09
oyatz:
You keep parambulating without establishing a prima facie case against Buhari.

What exactly are we dealing with? Has Buhari committed any crime or a misdemeanor?

1) Is it a case of forgery of a WAEC certificate by Buhari, which is a criminal case?
2) Do you think Buhari lied under oath by swearing an affidavit that is false, an equally grave allegation punishable by law?
3) Is it that Buhari is not educated and ineligible to contest for an election?

What exactly is the bone of contention?

The PDP and its wailers need to be specific on what they feel is wrong which can be challenged by legal means instead of throwing tantrums all over the cyber space.

Your present crying on Nairaland will not yield anything,so save yourself the headache and file a suit in court to stop Buhari from contesting. This is the most appropriate and civilized thing to do, not abusing people online or drawing unrelated cases into the matter.

Every case should and will be determined on its merits (not what happen elsewhere or in another case).




It seems you don't even understand what prima facie means. Buhari swore to an affidavit that his certificate was with the military and he has been the Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces for over 3 years now and couldn't order the certificate to be produced. Are Buhari and his zombies not deceiving themselves.... http://saharareporters.com/2018/10/28/video-how-army-denied-being-possession-buharis-certificate-2015 . https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/175303-dont-buharis-original-certificates-nigerian-army.html The military denied that Buhari's certificate was with them and that he didn't enter the army with certificate but with a letter from his school principal. And you think this is not a primacie case of perjury and lying under oath? Zombies should really go and get educated before coming to social media to display ignorance of professional terms they know nothing about. For you to be suffering and typing to defend Buhari doesn't change anything.
Re: Tonyebarcanista And Co, Come And See Someones Attestation RESULT. by oyatz: 7:53am On Nov 09
1) Now, you are just coming up with your exact grouse...Perjury and lying under oath, a very grave allegation.


2) "Affirmati Non Neganti Incumbit Probatio" He who asserts must prove.
The most appropriate thing to do is to get your 'hardcast evidence' and take the matter up in court.

The late Gani Fawehinmi immensely contributed to the entrenchment of democracy in Nigeria by doing this.


*On a lighter note, you can debate maturely without all these 'Zombies' every now and then.








escodotman:
It seems you don't even understand what prima facie means. Buhari swore to an affidavit that his certificate was with the military and he has been the Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces for over 3 years now and couldn't order the certificate to be produced. Are Buhari and his zombies not deceiving themselves.... http://saharareporters.com/2018/10/28/video-how-army-denied-being-possession-buharis-certificate-2015 . https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/175303-dont-buharis-original-certificates-nigerian-army.html The military denied that Buhari's certificate was with them and that he didn't enter the army with certificate but with a letter from his school principal. And you think this is not a primacie case of perjury and lying under oath? Zombies should really go and get educated before coming to social media to display ignorance of professional terms they know nothing about. For you to be suffering and typing to defend Buhari doesn't change anything.

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