OLAADEGBU:


Have you read the second column where he compares the scriptures with your church traditions?



God commanded that they should look on the bronze serpent to be healed He did not say that they should worship and bow down to the bronze serpent. You will not find the Israelites looking on any bronze serpent after that episode. Today God commands us to look unto Jesus who is the author and finisher of our faith, not bowing down before Mary.

I want to ask u a question....coz I see u cannot differentiate between honor and worship. Pls when people bow down bfre kings, r dey worshipping these kings And queens??

Ihateyoumod:


I want to ask u a question....coz I see u cannot differentiate between honor and worship. Pls when people bow down bfre kings, r dey worshipping these kings And queens??

"Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God" (Leviticus 26:1).

What part of this Scripture don't you understand?

OLAADEGBU:


"Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God" (Leviticus 26:1).

What part of this Scripture don't you understand?

So why did moses make a bronze serpent??...isn't tht a graven image

Unlike the ancient Egyptians that worshipped atum as a god that existed on his own, the vast majority of pagan scripts placed the first man as God but that earth was his mother. From there came a concept that Adam married his mother, as also in a case of Zeus who they believe to have made the human race.
The roman Catholic Church plagiarised the former pagan belief and instead of Zeus they had Jesus and instead of Rhea they had Mary. Why Jesus is seen as God. Mary is seen as mother of God. The same was practiced in Israel one time during a time of tribulation under the captivity of Babylon. Although they had Jeremiah, it looked like God had hid his face from them, the babylonians had a religious culture that related to their own but it was more fun. The secret of the hearts of the so called separated and sanctified Jews were open to them like watching a TV. They knew just what they wanted. Soon they were found practicing idolatry of the worship of tammuz and semiramis. It is nothing knew in the church.

OLAADEGBU:


If Mary is more of the presence of God as represented in the Ark then you are more than welcome to bow down before her image and worship the 'mother of God.'

Of course mary is more of the presence of GOD than some piece of wood and gold. but i won't worship her i would worship GOD who gave her grace and honour her his vessel of glory just as the israelites did with the ark.

Ihateyoumod:


So why did moses make a bronze serpent??...isn't tht a graven image

Moses made a bronze serpent because the Lord instructed him so as to heal those Israelites who would look unto it as an act of faith because of their sin. Who instructed you to make a graven image of Mary?

Ubenedictus:


Of course mary is more of the presence of GOD than some piece of wood and gold. but i won't worship her i would worship GOD who gave her grace and honour her his vessel of glory just as the israelites did with the ark.

The presence of God was in the Ark of Covenant which warranted the worship of God before the Ark, in other words the presence of God. Are you then worshipping God when you bow before the image of Mary because you believe she is more of the presence of God than the Ark?

Mizwisdom:



You are free to believe what you want, allow others to exercise the same freedom of choice

u are the kind of people who crucified Jesus. Hmm. . . THINK ABOUT THIS CRITICALLY.

orunto27:
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Direct Messengers of God are Prophets. Mary was one. She worked for God. Direct Messengers of Jesus Christ are Apostles.

no she was not a prophet. I said this to help u. If u argue. . . Oyo

Protestants are too confused abeg

OLAADEGBU:


The presence of God was in the Ark of Covenant which warranted the worship of God before the Ark, in other words the presence of God. Are you then worshipping God when you bow before the image of Mary because you believe she is more of the presence of God than the Ark?

something close to that

Ubenedictus:


something close to that

That is scary. See what should be done to that image in the verse below:

"He removed the high places, and brake the images, and cut down the groves, and brake in pieces the brasen serpent that Moses had made: for unto those days the children of Israel did burn incense to it: and he called it Nehushtan" (2 Kings 18:4)

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OLAADEGBU:
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No wonder!

Yale9:


No wonder!

Jesus is Wonderful!

OLAADEGBU:


That is scary. See what should be done to that image in the verse below:

"He removed the high places, and brake the images, and cut down the groves, and brake in pieces the brasen serpent that Moses had made: for unto those days the children of Israel did burn incense to it: and he called it Nehushtan" (2 Kings 18:4)

shoot and miss as usual,


Is that the ark of the covenant

Ubenedictus:


shoot and miss as usual,


Is that the ark of the covenant

That verse is talking about what was done to the serpent of bronze that the Israelites began to worship just as you are bowing down to the image of Mary. If worshipping the image in that verse was considered to be idolatry what makes you think you are not doing the same today?

OLAADEGBU:


That verse is talking about what was done to the serpent of bronze that the Israelites began to worship just as you are bowing down to the image of Mary. If worshipping the image in that verse was considered to be idolatry what makes you think you are not doing the same today?

was the ark also treated like that even though people prostrated before it?

Ubenedictus:


was the ark also treated like that even though people prostrated before it?

Why do you think the high priest ties a rope on his foot and bells on his waist when he goes into the holy of holies?

OLAADEGBU:


Why do you think the high priest ties a rope on his foot and bells on his waist when he goes into the holy of holies?

that one is simple, when he is moving the bells will ring, if he stops ringing for a long time the priest may assume he fainted and drag him out of the Holy of holies.
It was to prevent him from dying there

Ubenedictus:
that one is simple, when he is moving the bells will ring, if he stops ringing for a long time the priest may assume he fainted and drag him out of the Holy of holies.
It was to prevent him from dying there

Sure, because fainting is a possibility at the sight of a heavenly being.

Ubenedictus:


that one is simple, when he is moving the bells will ring, if he stops ringing for a long time the priest may assume he fainted and drag him out of the Holy of holies.
It was to prevent him from dying there

So you think that he might just faint there. Why would he faint, what would make him faint and why might he die there?

Syncan:


Sure, because fainting is a possibility at the sight of a heavenly being.

What heavenly being might he see there?

OLAADEGBU:


What heavenly being might he see there?

For real? You bring rope and ankle matter come. We're only helping you with your story, don't turn back and start claiming Ignorance.

Syncan:


For real? You bring rope and ankle matter come. We're only helping you with your story, don't turn back and start claiming Ignorance.

Are you claiming that you might faint when bowing down before the image of Mary?

OLAADEGBU:


Moses made a bronze serpent because the Lord instructed him so as to heal those Israelites who would look unto it as an act of faith because of their sin. Who instructed you to make a graven image of Mary?

Ola, this your god is an author of confusion o! He said do not make graven image. Then he said make graven image.

Ihateyoumod:


The OP quoted scripture literally, he has a very shallow understanding of scripture. Moses made a bronze serpent, didn't the law of not making graven images apply to him.

Ur defense would be he was commanded to do so. My response is, is God confused??....y would he say thou shall not graven images and den go against his own law asking moses to make an image. Couldn't he have saved them withoit using an image??....pls answer this last question. Finding an answer to tht question will open ur mind to the fact tht u don't read one portion of the Bible n begin to judge others like Pharisees do.

2 Kings 18:4 He removed the high places, and brake the images, and cut down the groves, and brake in pieces the brasen serpent that Moses had made: for unto those days the children of Israel did burn incense to it: and he called it Nehushtan.

OLAADEGBU:


Yes, 'you are free to believe what you want' but you must also be aware that you will be accountable to God for the choices you made from your free will.

Please who made you god to judge us for what we believe.

josh123:
During DAT time d ark of God represent d present and glory of God,God told them to worship him.Mary is just a mare mortal like u and i,and Catholics decided to worship her. She was only previledged to b d mother of Jesus,any other virgin woman can b d mother of jesus

Selective belief, i wonder what half baked protestants know about Christianity self.

OLAADEGBU:


The presence of God was in the Ark of Covenant which warranted the worship of God before the Ark, in other words the presence of God. Are you then worshipping God when you bow before the image of Mary because you believe she is more of the presence of God than the Ark?

Oga, u really really cherry pick scriptures. Sorry to say you don't understand your Bible and for your own good the Bible is not a story book.

If God can use a box, how much more a human being, then you spew more rubbish about Mary this Mary that, why is her name causing you headaches. Sincerely we don't understand your problem.
Then you go and bring kumuyi flyer and when he tells you he wants to pray for you, you lie down on the ground to receive prayer and apter that you come here and start judging others.

Brood of vipers is the term.

alfaman3:


Ola, this your god is an author of confusion o! He said do not make graven image. Then he said make graven image.

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me (Exodus 20:4-5)

When God instructed Moses to make an image of a bronze serpent and hang it on a tree for the dying Israelites to look on for them to be healed, He did not tell them to worship that image, it was an instruction to be carried out for them to be healed at that point in time. But you should trust human beings who are always prone to worship any image created by man. It is a sin to make a graven image in order to worship it. Don't bow down to anything but God. (See Exodus 20:4-5).