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Re: Church Plans Quran-burning Event by paddylo1(m): 2:52am On Aug 02, 2010 |
Tboy007: [b]Nice try but dont come acting like ISLAM is any better than these Quran burning lunatics. . . I wonder why u should be praising an arab religion when your forefathers had their own AFRICAN TRADITIONAL RELIGION. . . U talk of doing your thing in Florida fine,whearas in saudi arabia u cant open a church talkless of practise my AFRICAN TRADITIONAL RELIGION Listen homie all that stuff u yarn is B.S. . .The bible and Quran are full of it. . .There are so many scientific fallacies in the quran,i dont even know where to start so i wont bother and of course the church was busy killing scientists who claimed the earth is round For your info i am AFRICAN first and foremost,and go with my traditions first before any imported nonsense from white or arab ppl Funny that all the signs u post on there are religions invented by their respective people , ISLAM. .Arabs JUDAISM. . Jews Budhism. .Asians Hinduism . .Indians Mormonism. . Whites whereas only the black man like u will worship a GOD he did not invent. . .rubbish[/b] |
Re: Church Plans Quran-burning Event by EzeUche22(m): 2:58am On Aug 02, 2010 |
Frankly, I feel these foreign religions have not done Africans any good. We kill each other over religion, we do not trust anyone over religion and causes a host of other problems. Why not follow the old ways? What was wrong with our traditional religions? Our ancestors had no problem with their religion. Africans are so quick to throw away their culture due to foreign influences, it shows an inferiority complex. My God is Chukwu! All I can pray for though, is that these racist Americans planning on burning the Quran do not anger Muslims in Africa which would make them target innocent African Christians who had no role in this nasty affair. We are all people of the book. Jews, Christians and Muslims follow the same God. Each religion has a common ancestor so why all this nonsense? |
Re: Church Plans Quran-burning Event by paddylo1(m): 3:01am On Aug 02, 2010 |
Frankly, I feel these foreign religions have not done Africans any good. We kill each other over religion, we do not trust anyone over religion and causes a host of other problems. Thank u. . .that is why things fell apart in igboland. . and other parts of Nigeria quite frankly How many chinese,Indian or Japanese do u see worshiping a foreign GOD?. . and we wonder why they are doing well. . . |
Re: Church Plans Quran-burning Event by ezeagu(m): 3:10am On Aug 02, 2010 |
EzeUche22: Outcasts, twin killing, blaming illnesses on "Ogbanje", human sacrifice and slavery by the "gods", apart from that nothing wrong. . . . . . . . |
Re: Church Plans Quran-burning Event by EzeUche22(m): 3:52am On Aug 02, 2010 |
ezeagu: Well that was all part of our culture at the time. Even the Judaic religions has some "barbaric" practices like stoning adulterers and cutting the limbs off of thieves. We could have "modernized" our religion and traditional practices. The Indians did not forget their gods. Their religion just evolved. That is something I admire about the Indians. Even though they were colonized, they did not forget their old ways. Maybe that is why Africa is not progressing. We have forsaken our culture and our gods. |
Re: Church Plans Quran-burning Event by bawomolo(m): 3:55am On Aug 02, 2010 |
ezeagu: lol get em. I do agree with ezeuche that we could have modernized our religions. there's nothing to be gained by this burning event. just fanatics trying to rile up fanatics on the other side. |
Re: Church Plans Quran-burning Event by Kenezi: 10:43am On Aug 02, 2010 |
The Indians who still have the racist caste system to this day? Their religion has never done them any good, just like human sacrifice never did Nigeria any good, but you can have the freedom to burn cash as protection from bullets if you want. |
Re: Church Plans Quran-burning Event by ezeagu(m): 6:05pm On Aug 02, 2010 |
Kenezi: I think it's more to do with upholding culture, and religion is a large part of culture, and in that way the Indian Hindu's are unified and their culture is ensured through their religion. Indians have problems with prejudice, but their culture is unique and authentic, this makes it one of the most recognisable cultures in the world. When I listed those negative aspects of Igbo spirituality, it was just a reminder that it wasn't perfect and many aspects of it (slave trading and out castes) led to the destruction of society. This doesn't change the advantages and power of having your own religion, which you can use to spread your culture, and therefore influence onto the world. . . . . |
Re: Church Plans Quran-burning Event by chrisical(m): 6:23pm On Aug 02, 2010 |
Someone should quickly tell these deluded plonkers BEFORE ITS TOO LATE not to carry out their babaric act.This may lead to a world-wide religious crisis. |
Re: Church Plans Quran-burning Event by Nobody: 6:24pm On Aug 02, 2010 |
When people talk of killing of twins and human sacrifice etc, Occult practices doesn't constitute culture of a people. And all these B.S were handed down to you by your masters and you believe it? No one talks about the way Women and Children were treated in Europe up till mid 19th century. No one talks about that. Instead it's always focus on African traditions and demonize it that people focuses on. Of all the religion that survived at least the one I know of in Yoruba land, none requires Human sacrifices and yes my family are Ocean worshipers and we still do (Not Santeria that is a mainstream practice). And it's really a peaceful and empowers you with knowledge of the other world going on unseen. No human sacrifices in that. People mistake what even the people of then will call evil as our tradition. Bad!! They said Mungo park discovered River Niger when Africans has been fishing and living around the river for ages before Europeans even knew what was African. They should be putting first European on many things instead of first person. |
Re: Church Plans Quran-burning Event by Tboy007: 11:30pm On Aug 02, 2010 |
nice.one: @ nice one, I am aware of the media hype about islam, about the misconception about islam, about the misrepresentation of Islam(even by those who claim to be muslims) and really, I don't blame you for your "influenced" view/opinion. I blame the muslims. We have done litle in making our faith understandable to the rest of humanity. We are busy building skyscrapers in Dubai, striking business deals all around the globe and galivanting/touring Europe, Africa, America, Middle East and are comfortable with being mere on-lookers in the general affairs of humanity. Particularly, I blame myself also for not appreciating Islam early in life and sharing its teachings with others. I blame myself for not upholding the Islamic principle of being the "best friend" to my neighbour, I could go on & on, But in an epitome, I blame you not!!!! True Muslims aren't in any way comparable to these "haters". The Holy Qur'an clearly states that we shouldn't insult those who share not our beliefs [e.g books, aqeedah(creed), etc] so they won't in their ignorance and rage insult their creator (GOD) Forgive my ignorance, does B.S refer to 'bull shit'? If it does, I aren't dishing out no shit!!. Those who dish out "shit" soil their hands with the shit!!, Right?? Kindly make reference to the fallacies you claim to in the Qur'an. (I am sure u are probably gonna google this).Before the advents of astronomy, the holy Book had explained to us the cosmo. About evolution, the book is against Charles Darwin's theories (& this theory has been disproved by several scientists too: Some even contend that Darwin was trying to promote white supremist views) . Islam ain't a religion of the arabs. It is a mercy to the whole of mankind!! It is a TOTAL way of life!!!, Its message is to all humanity. GOD refers to humanity in the holy book with such appellations as: O mankind, O believers, etc with respect to rulings, etc. Never was there any specific reference to the arabs. In fact, Islam abhors the so-called "Nationalism" and advocates brotherhood: first in faith & then in humanity. So unlike you, I am more inclined to desribe myself as a muslim (the word "muslim" refers to any being/creature/etc that submits totally to the will of GOD) first and then secondly as a human. My demographic background has no influence whatsoever on how I perceive myself. It simply reminds me of the diversity of humanity and the "might" of the supreme being. The holy book clearly states that humanity is created in many races/tribes/nations so that we may recognise ourselves and Islam teaches that the best among us is not based on racial affiliation but on taqwa(piety). Your asertion of describing yourself as a black man smirks of ethnocentrism. It is the same as the white dude who deludes himself in the superiority of his color. I " shudder" to think that you believe "GOD" is an invention of man. From all the religions you made reference to, as shown in the "sic" pic I uploaded(Islam, Judaism,Budhism,Hinduism,Mormonism), it may interest you to know that all the others with the sole exception of Islam end with the suffix "ism", just like man-invented isms like Capitalism, Socialism,Egalitarianism, etc. So, based on etymology, you are right about your assertion: You only got it wrong with Islam!! Have you ever read the holy Qur'an? Your reference to my/our fore-fathers: The Islamic creed believes that everyone is born in a state of "fitra" (purity in faith: Submission to GOD's will) and I trace my genealogy to Abraham. Abraham was neither a mushrik(idol worshipper) nor was he a disbeliever.He was one of those who submitted their will to GOD. Mind you, there are different myths from my part of the country (South West, Nigeria) which subscribes to the fact that my ancestors migrated from elsewhere. Some claim we are from Egypt and others claim that we have our origins from Arabia (the legend of Lamurudu, etc)[These myths/legend may be contested. BUt at least that was what I was taught in High School: I don't know if the curriculum has been changed, lol!!!). And for your information,there is currently no government in the world based entirely on Islamic principles. Saudi Arabia, that you refered to operates a monarchy, & Islam doesn't advocate that. , 1 love, bro!!!! |
Re: Church Plans Quran-burning Event by paddylo1(m): 12:13am On Aug 03, 2010 |
Kindly make reference to the fallacies you claim to in the Qur'an. (I am sure u are probably gonna google this).Before the advents of astronomy, the holy Book had explained to us the cosmo. About evolution, the book is against Charles Darwin's theories (& this theory has been disproved by several scientists too: Some even contend that Darwin was trying to promote white supremist views) . Mercy. .of the world. . . do u even read your own Quran? Well let me help u. . . . [size=14pt]Intolerance in the Quran[/size] I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then smite the necks and smite of them each finger.--8:12 The Quran, virtually on every page, is a manifesto for religious intolerance. -- Sam Harris "Show us the straight path, The path of those whom Thou hast favoured; Not the (path) of those who earn Thine anger nor of those who go astray." Muslims generally interpret "those whom Allah has favored," "those who earn Allah's anger," and "those who go astray" as Muslims, Jews, and Christians, respectively. 1:6-7 Allah stamped wretchedness upon the Jews because they killed the prophets and disbelieved Allah's revelations. 2:61 Allah turned the Sabbath-breaking Jews into apes. 2:65-66 Jews are the greediest of all humankind. They'd like to live 1000 years. But they are going to hell. 2:96 Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kil them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.) 2:191-2 Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers. (See 2:65-66) 4:47 Jews and Christians believe in idols and false deities, yet they claim to be more rightly guided than Muslims. 4:51 "Those (Christians and Jews) are they whom Allah hath cursed." 4:52 For the wrongdoing Jews, Allah has prepared a painful doom. 4:160-1 Don't choose Jews, Christians, or disbelievers as guardians. 5:57 Jews and Christians are evil-livers. 5:59 The Jews rejected and killed Allah's prophets, since "they were wilfully blind and deaf." 5:70-71 Christians will be burned in the Fire. 5:72 Christians are wrong about the Trinity. For that they will have a painful doom. 5:73 Muslims that make friends with disbelievers will face a doom prepared for them by Allah. 5:80 Allah will destroy non-muslim cultures. 7:138-9 Allah turns Jews into apes! 7:166 Allah will punish the disbelieving Jews until the Day of Resurrection. 7:167 "The worst of beasts in Allah's sight are the deaf, the dumb, who have no sense [the non-muslims]." 8:22 Don't make treaties with non-Muslims. They are all evildoers and should not be trusted. 9:7-9 Treat converts to Islam well. (Kill those who refuse to convert. See 9:5) 9:11 Fight against Christians and Jews "until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low." 9:29 Christians and Jews are perverse. Allah himself fights against them. 9:30 Non-muslim who pretend to believe (so they won't be killed by Muslims) are unclean and will go to hell. 9:95 Stay away from non-Muslims. They are all liars. 9:107 Christians will cry out to Allah's "partners", but they won't hear them; Allah will send them to their doom. 18:52 "Woe unto the disbelievers from the meeting of an awful Day." Jesus was not the Son of God. Those who say he was (Christians) are going to hell. 19:35-37 When the Hour comes, Christians will be divided into two groups: Those who believed Allah's revelations, and those who disbelieved in them. The believers will be happy in the Garden; the disbelievers will be brought to doom. 30:13-16 Those ascribe a partner to Allah (like the Christians) will be among the losers. 39:65 Allah will taunt the Christians in hell, saying: Where are all my parnters that you used to believe in? 40:73 If you refuse to fight for Allah, he will punish you with a painful doom. 48:16 Allah will "cause it [Islam] to prevail over all religion." 48:28 Those with Muhammad are ruthless toward disbelievers and merciful toward themselves. 48:29 Stay away from non-Muslims, especially those who disbelieve in the afterlife. 53:29 Do whatever Muhammad tells you to do. (Or you'll go to hell.) 59:7 Allah gave Muhammad the one true religion and sent him to conquer all other (false) religions. 61:9 A hypocritical Jew looks like an ass carrying books. Those who deny the revelations of Allah are ugly. 62:5 "Shall We then treat those who have surrendered (Muslims) as We treat the guilty (Non-Muslims)?" 68:35 Disbelievers will enter hell with frantic with fear, knowing they will be tortured forever by Allah. 70:36, 44 Allah has prepared chains, manacles, and a raging fire for the disbelievers. 76:4 Don't obey disbelievers. 76:24 Disbelievers are wicked people. On the last day they will be in darkness and have dust on their faces. 80:40-42 Disbelievers will be given a painful doom. 84:22-24 http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/int/long.html |
Re: Church Plans Quran-burning Event by bkbabe97y(m): 3:15am On Aug 03, 2010 |
paddy_lo: You know, the more I read all your stuff the more I realize how ignorant u are. Dude, because you do not believe a teaching doesnt mean you castigate it, therein lies the problem of intolerance; youre just as intolerant as those you chastise. I also believe that foreign religions have brought the black man nothing but misery, but I dont go about criticizing them! You thump on the Quran, have you read the Torah lately? What about the Bible? My point is none of these religions is tolerant, they all preach peace and hate at the same time. . . think about it! |
Re: Church Plans Quran-burning Event by TMemos: 10:28pm On Aug 05, 2010 |
EzeUche22: paddy_lo: With an open mind, this is indeed food for thought. |
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