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Re: Daddy Freeze Bags 'Religious Disruption Award'. See Reactions by okonyia(m): 8:25pm On Dec 16, 2018
Shallow minds are praising this fool called Freeze. I hope you will all know he is seeking for stomach infrastructure through dubious means
Re: Daddy Freeze Bags 'Religious Disruption Award'. See Reactions by MANNABBQGRILLS: 8:30pm On Dec 16, 2018
Corrinthians:
Sharrap sir. grin grin grin

I stand with freeze. Oyedepo is a crook jor. grin
Hmmm, we don't talk against any man of God.
It is in our Holy Book to leave men of God for God to judge.
Have a great week Chairman!
Re: Daddy Freeze Bags 'Religious Disruption Award'. See Reactions by okeniti: 8:32pm On Dec 16, 2018
A king.
Re: Daddy Freeze Bags 'Religious Disruption Award'. See Reactions by Alexk2(m): 8:55pm On Dec 16, 2018
Nazaretha1:
Lev 27: 30-32,l
Num 18:24-28
Deut 12:1-17
Deut 14:22-28
Deut 26:1-12
Neh 10:37-38
Neh 12
Heb 7:5-6
Gal 3:10
Read up those scriptures bro. According to the laws of Moses in the Torah, the 613 Mitzvot, it is unlawful for these pastors to recieve tithe as it is. We know the works of the Lord needs money to get things done but Elokim himself cannot be shamed by people who try to tweak His words to serve their bellies nor his gullible children who wouldn't study the scriptures to see the truth. Look, even Galatians 3:10 says anyone who does not continue to do all of the laws in the Mitzvot and the Torah, a curse is placed on them. And have you seen the 613 Mitzvot laws, even Israelis find it difficult to fulfil them talkless of us who just pick the ones that suit us. So a curse is placed on anyone who wishes to stay under the law. Besides, tithes, only of farm produce and the tenth animal are to be given to levites who then give to priests solely because the levites don't have an inheritance among the Israelites.
You can download a PDF of the 613 Mitzvot and judge for yourself if you're cursed based on Galatians 3:10 or not.
Selah!

Like seriously I don't even know how to reply you as you just keep contradicting yourself... Don't be confused pls.and I'll break your very writeup down without adding mine.
You've carefu.lly quoted verses that supports tithes giving mostly from the old testament and you quoted Galatians 3:10 "anyone who does not continue to do all of the laws in the Mitzvot and the Torah, a curse is placed on them." so you already agreed that anyone who refused to follow those laws(tithe inclusive) is cursed as emphasized by you. Now tell me what's is the basis of your support for daddy freeze doctrine? Why condemning those who choose to obey the laws as given?
That is just from your very post bro... I could add mine if you're not still clear. BTW all those mitzvot and Torah stuffs isn't my business until I fully understand all the bible; so spare me.
Re: Daddy Freeze Bags 'Religious Disruption Award'. See Reactions by gypsey(m): 9:15pm On Dec 16, 2018
Freeze!! Ma Nigga!! grin
Re: Daddy Freeze Bags 'Religious Disruption Award'. See Reactions by omoelerin1: 9:19pm On Dec 16, 2018
Mpanyi:
Religious distuption award or Christian disruption award? That coward doesn't and can't try that nonsense with Islam.
He is not a Muslim. He professes Christian faith. So he has a right to teach its doctrine and attack and correct those who practice anything contrary to its tenets.

Just like you as a Nigeria will criticize your govt when go against the law and not do the right thing. You have no business criticizing American politicians over how they govern their own country.
Re: Daddy Freeze Bags 'Religious Disruption Award'. See Reactions by omoelerin1: 9:25pm On Dec 16, 2018
solomonsly11:
An award for his STUPIDITY! Those that gave you this award were mocking you if you don't know, they 're pushing you to your destruction. I taught by know you ought to have popular more than this. Infact i pity your children and your children children cos you are he's putting curse upon them
Curse ko, blessing ni.
How many times have you delivered this kind of message to armed robbers, kidnappers, ritualists, even corrupt politicians?
Re: Daddy Freeze Bags 'Religious Disruption Award'. See Reactions by omoelerin1: 9:33pm On Dec 16, 2018
MANNABBQGRILLS:

Hmmm, we don't talk against any man of God.
It is in our Holy Book to leave men of God for God to judge.
Have a great week Chairman!
Where is it in your holy book that you shouldn't talk against your man of God, but man of god cannot leave people of god for God to judge but threaten them with hell fire?
Re: Daddy Freeze Bags 'Religious Disruption Award'. See Reactions by Nazaretha1(m): 10:18pm On Dec 16, 2018
Dear brother, there is nothing contradictory in the least to what I posted. I'd like to reiterate that I'm not a follower of daddy freeze but relative to tithing and first fruits, though, he uses languages that I personally do not like, I agree with him on the subject. I'll make a quick summary.
Tithes are to be given to the levites who in turn give to the priests solely because the Lord commanded that they do not have an inheritance of lands, etc among the children of Israel.
Tithes are to be given in farm produce and livestock materials.
Tithes cannot be converted to money except when the house of worship is far, it should be sold in exchange for money while the family or the individual goes to wherever the Lord their God will choose, use all of the money to purchase food and drinks, eat and be merry in the presence of the Lord, their God.
Although the law is good as it comes from God, we are not subject to it anymore because of the fulfilment of the law in the Lord Jesus Christ however, whoever wishes to stay in the laws of Moses, e.g; today's Israelis, a curse be upon them if and only if they cannot fulfill every one of those laws written in the the Mitzva which is almost impossible, which is why the Lord Jesus had to come in the first place.
According to the Mosaic laws, it is unlawful for gentiles (non-jews) to receive the levitical tithing and first fruits because pastors are not Israelis, neither are they from the tribe of Levi, neither are they priests, neither do they receive tithes in farm produce and livestock, neither do they obey the other laws in the Torah which they obviously couldn't.
Again, even in today's Israel, the levitical tithes and first fruits are not being paid because there is no temple. The Temple Mount alongside Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 CE by the Roman Empire as the Lord Jesus prophesied.
Brother, I advise you to download the 613 Mitzvot PDF and see how you (and all of us) are breaking them. Many of them you would've not even heard of. It's the same with every Christian since we are not subject to the Mosaic law but we fulfil it as our Lord also did.
Little wonder did the Lord himself not receive tithes, neither did his disciples and they never compelled anyone to. Even the fathers of protestant reformation in the 1500s did not.
The scriptures I typed are those that support tithing but only to those who are legally entitled to it as the Mosaic law is concerned. Not pastors, descendants of the tribe of Levi (check Heb 7:5-6).
Bro, let me reiterate that those scriptures support giving tithes and first fruits only to those entitled to it which are the levites and it's solely because they do not have an inheritance of lands etc among God's people according to God's commands. Heb 7:5-6, Num 18:24.

Alexk2:

Like seriously I don't even know how to reply you as you just keep contradicting yourself... Don't be confused pls.and I'll break your very writeup down without adding mine.
You've carefu.lly quoted verses that supports tithes giving mostly from the old testament and you quoted Galatians 3:10 "anyone who does not continue to do all of the laws in the Mitzvot and the Torah, a curse is placed on them." so you already agreed that anyone who refused to follow those laws(tithe inclusive) is cursed as emphasized by you. Now tell me what's is the basis of your support for daddy freeze doctrine? Why condemning those who choose to obey the laws as given?
That is just from your very post bro... I could add mine if you're not still clear. BTW all those mitzvot and Torah stuffs isn't my business until I fully understand all the bible; so spare me.
Re: Daddy Freeze Bags 'Religious Disruption Award'. See Reactions by Badmusthomas(m): 10:28pm On Dec 16, 2018
MChaze25:


If you check all the money used in fighting Boko Haram in this country and check the number of poor people these fat pocket pastors would ve lifted out of poverty, you will understand freeze.
its true but we givd man of god advice not to abuse or challenge them
Re: Daddy Freeze Bags 'Religious Disruption Award'. See Reactions by D1official: 11:27pm On Dec 16, 2018
Donald95:


How

If what he says is stupid, why don't you reactors prove him wrong with facts and figures
They should change it to xtianity disruption award, Cos DAT midget u see as a god won't last a month if he spews rubbish against Islam.
Re: Daddy Freeze Bags 'Religious Disruption Award'. See Reactions by biztip: 11:52pm On Dec 16, 2018
at least he has an area he is good at unlike some of us
Re: Daddy Freeze Bags 'Religious Disruption Award'. See Reactions by shegra58: 12:05am On Dec 17, 2018
Alexk2:
The day daddy freeze will regret all his claims and false teachings, I prays it won't be too late for him. The Bible say "by there fruit, we Shall know them".. EOQ
see you the man dey back all his claimed with bible verse and no pastors has ever come public to counter it...Abeg God is not daft
Re: Daddy Freeze Bags 'Religious Disruption Award'. See Reactions by fortunechy(m): 12:30am On Dec 17, 2018
Those that gave him the award must come from the pit of hell..... what rubbish!!
Re: Daddy Freeze Bags 'Religious Disruption Award'. See Reactions by OGHENAOGIE(m): 1:10am On Dec 17, 2018
D1official:

They should change it to xtianity disruption award, Cos DAT midget u see as a god won't last a month if he spews rubbish against Islam.
oga keep quiet u and I know Islam is not as exploitative as xtianity...d issue with Islam is d fact dat some of her adherents are aggressive responsible for terrorism and deeply conservative...
Re: Daddy Freeze Bags 'Religious Disruption Award'. See Reactions by proddey(m): 4:00am On Dec 17, 2018
BiafraBushBoy:
wow...

Daddy Freeze is a man I RESPECT so much because he is only against Christians...

Oh... I thought Islam isn't a religion, it an association... cheesy!!! Why hasn't he spoken about immans and Alfas?

Oh, he is so scared that they will find him and kill him.

That was how they made seun create an oath before anyone is able to comment on the islamic category... but the Christian section is free for all to spew trash.
.
Freeze the useless coward! cheesy

He's not against Christians. He's against the false doctrines in Christianity most especially the prosperity gospel..
Re: Daddy Freeze Bags 'Religious Disruption Award'. See Reactions by Sleekfingers: 4:01am On Dec 17, 2018
BiafraBushBoy:
wow...

Daddy Freeze is a man I RESPECT so much because he is only against Christians...

Oh... I thought Islam isn't a religion, it an association... cheesy!!! Why hasn't he spoken about immans and Alfas?

Oh, he is so scared that they will find him and kill him.

That was how they made seun create an oath before anyone is able to comment on the islamic category... but the Christian section is free for all to spew trash.

Freeze the useless coward! cheesy

Is freeze a Muslim?... He is a Christian. and he is educating the brainwashed Christians in Nigeria.... From my point of view, many Nigerian Christians are not practicing Christianity at all.... Many of them are mere bench warmers.... They worship their pastors

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Re: Daddy Freeze Bags 'Religious Disruption Award'. See Reactions by MChaze25(m): 8:01am On Dec 17, 2018
Badmusthomas:

its true but we givd man of god advice not to abuse or challenge them

Advice?
If Buhari cannot listen or obey court cases, na those kinda men go listen to you?
You want to spoil business for them?
They have turned churches to business investments long ago.
Even the richest African woman has a church.
Bill Gates and Mark Zukerberg know Wetin church be?
We African see anything as business which is too bad!
When Jesus saw the temple being used as a business place, did he went there to advice them as if they will listen to him?
He turned over the tables challenging them that his father's house is not a business center.
No just blame freeze Abeg.
David Oyedepo was never as popular as Zoe Ministeries during my primary school days.
Today where is Zoe?
I guess you don't even know that name today.
All these men will come and go like popular public figures do but true churches will stand.
Avoid man-made churches. One-man show ministries & look at those standing the rest of time and countless ages.
Bye...
Re: Daddy Freeze Bags 'Religious Disruption Award'. See Reactions by Alexk2(m): 1:44pm On Dec 17, 2018
Nazaretha1:
Dear brother, there is nothing contradictory in the least to what I posted. I'd like to reiterate that I'm not a follower of daddy freeze but relative to tithing and first fruits, though, he uses languages that I personally do not like, I agree with him on the subject. I'll make a quick summary.
Tithes are to be given to the levites who in turn give to the priests solely because the Lord commanded that they do not have an inheritance of lands, etc among the children of Israel.
Tithes are to be given in farm produce and livestock materials.
Tithes cannot be converted to money except when the house of worship is far, it should be sold in exchange for money while the family or the individual goes to wherever the Lord their God will choose, use all of the money to purchase food and drinks, eat and be merry in the presence of the Lord, their God.
Although the law is good as it comes from God, we are not subject to it anymore because of the fulfilment of the law in the Lord Jesus Christ however, whoever wishes to stay in the laws of Moses, e.g; today's Israelis, a curse be upon them if and only if they cannot fulfill every one of those laws written in the the Mitzva which is almost impossible, which is why the Lord Jesus had to come in the first place.
According to the Mosaic laws, it is unlawful for gentiles (non-jews) to receive the levitical tithing and first fruits because pastors are not Israelis, neither are they from the tribe of Levi, neither are they priests, neither do they receive tithes in farm produce and livestock, neither do they obey the other laws in the Torah which they obviously couldn't.
Again, even in today's Israel, the levitical tithes and first fruits are not being paid because there is no temple. The Temple Mount alongside Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 CE by the Roman Empire as the Lord Jesus prophesied.
Brother, I advise you to download the 613 Mitzvot PDF and see how you (and all of us) are breaking them. Many of them you would've not even heard of. It's the same with every Christian since we are not subject to the Mosaic law but we fulfil it as our Lord also did.
Little wonder did the Lord himself not receive tithes, neither did his disciples and they never compelled anyone to. Even the fathers of protestant reformation in the 1500s did not.
The scriptures I typed are those that support tithing but only to those who are legally entitled to it as the Mosaic law is concerned. Not pastors, descendants of the tribe of Levi (check Heb 7:5-6).
Bro, let me reiterate that those scriptures support giving tithes and first fruits only to those entitled to it which are the levites and it's solely because they do not have an inheritance of lands etc among God's people according to God's commands. Heb 7:5-6, Num 18:24.

Interesting!!!... But let's look at it this way..
“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin [that is, various herbs], and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others [tithes] undone” (Matthew 23:23; compare Luke 11:42, emphasis added throughout).

Here, only days before His death by crucifixion, Christ plainly confirmed that tithing should be practiced, along with spiritual adherence to the “weightier” matters that the scribes and Pharisees were obviously neglecting.

God had earlier instructed the Israelites to support the tribe of Levi for its temple service. They did this by giving the Levites God’s tithe—this support providing the means for Israel to worship the Creator and be taught according to His will.

But with the destruction of the temple in A.D. 70, the functioning of the Levitical priesthood in the national worship system was not able to continue in the same way. Moreover, Jesus had given the awesome responsibility to proclaim God’s truth to the Church He built (Matthew 16:18; Matthew 28:18-20).

Even prior to the temple’s destruction, members of God’s Church and followers of the gospel message gave monetary and other types of aid to Jesus and His apostles, disciples and later other laborers helping to spread the gospel. The work Christ had given His Church to do had to be supported (1 Corinthians 9:9-14).

Anticipating the end of the national worship system, Hebrews 7:12 refers to a change in the administration of tithing that accompanied a change in the priesthood. In Hebrews 7:1-19 it’s explained that the ancestor of the Levites, Abraham, paid tithes to the priest-king Melchizedek—a figure called the “king of righteousness” and “king of peace,” with no beginning or end, who was evidently the preincarnate Jesus. And now the tithes would go directly to Melchizedek again through His representatives.

The New Testament Church—the spiritual temple of God (1 Corinthians 3:16; Ephesians 2:19-22)—was superior to the physical temple that was destroyed when Jerusalem fell to the Roman army. And as the Church’s representatives, the New Testament apostles became the recipients of the tithes of God’s people (see Acts 4:35-37).

When we carefully explore the New Testament and the experience of the early Church, we should understand that the emergence of the Church did not mean a radical departure from the religious practices of the nation of Israel. Both the apostles Peter and Paul clearly upheld Old Testament teachings (2 Peter 1:20-21; 2 Peter 3:2, 2 Timothy 2:15; 2 Timothy 3:15-17).

Not until several decades after the founding of the New Testament Church does the book of Hebrews clarify the impact this new spiritual administration involving tithing had on the Church.

Because of its continuance in Old Testament practices, though sometimes applied in a new way, for decades the Church was regarded by outsiders as merely another sect of the Jews, but one that believed in the divinity of Jesus Christ. The Church is the spiritual forerunner in Israel’s New Covenant relationship with God and is even called “the Israel of God” in Galatians 6:16.

The opportunity for salvation was extended beyond the nation of Israel and offered to non-Israelites—those who would be called into the Church from all nations, being thereby grafted into Israel (see Romans 11:1-36; Ephesians 2:11-19; 1 Peter 2:9-10). This new spiritual nation would provide obedience through a converted heart (Matthew 21:43).
Re: Daddy Freeze Bags 'Religious Disruption Award'. See Reactions by okrikaboi: 4:35pm On Dec 17, 2018
BiafraBushBoy:
wow...

Daddy Freeze is a man I RESPECT so much because he is only against Christians...

Oh... I thought Islam isn't a religion, it an association... cheesy!!! Why hasn't he spoken about immans and Alfas?

Oh, he is so scared that they will find him and kill him.

That was how they made seun create an oath before anyone is able to comment on the islamic category... but the Christian section is free for all to spew trash.

Freeze the useless coward! cheesy
consider yourself banned cheesy
Re: Daddy Freeze Bags 'Religious Disruption Award'. See Reactions by hopefulLandlord: 7:46am On Dec 18, 2018
HigherEd:
Why not call it "attempted Christianity disruption" award. Freeze and his remaining coward Atheists dare not try Islam openly. Him mama no go recognize am when Muslims finish with him.

Freeze never said he's an atheist. not everyone that disagrees with the way your practise your religion is an atheist

The real cowards are people that label Freeze atheist so as to avoid facing his arguments head on

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Re: Daddy Freeze Bags 'Religious Disruption Award'. See Reactions by Nazaretha1(m): 9:21am On Dec 18, 2018
In Mat 23:23 and Luke 11:42, the Lord was referring to the Pharisees, the scribes and the lawyers and let's not forget that these people were Israeli nationals. That verse had nothing to do whatsoever with gentiles, nor the church receiving tithes of money. Remember, the verse said, "mint, anise and cumin", these are plants. In fact, the Lord made it clear that giving tithes etc, though good and lawful when it's been given to those who have rights to it (the levites) is less important than loving God and doing what is right in his sight.
Here, Christ not only confirmed that tithe should be given only to those who the Mosaic law stated that it be given, not gentiles, not even non-levitical jews, but also confirmed that tithe should be given as farm produce.
Yes, according to apostle Paul in 1st Corinthians 9, the work of God needs not just spiritual assistance or importation, men of God, people of God etc should also be assisted with monetary, material things. It is not just lawful but it is a good thing if we truly are stern believers in the Lord. He who works should be appreciated although Paul knows that his reward comes from God but while he was here, he had needs to (remember when he thanked the church for sending him clothing and food etc). These things are human necessities, they had nothing to do with tithing. Paul was a Benjamite, he, nor any of the apostles, even some disciples from the tribe of Levi never received tithes because thy knew that it was unlawful for those who are not levites and those who were levites knew that they would be fulfilling a part of the law without fulfilling others and a curse will be upon them. Besides, they knew they were not subject to the Mosaic law anymore but have been reconciled to God through grace.
Hebrew 7, the whole chapter plainly talks about the uniqueness of the forever priesthood of Jesus, relating to Melchizedek who was not from the house of Levi, Jesus also was not from the house of Levi. The chapter says it can be counted as Levi, in Abraham's loins paid tithe to Melchizedek, proving the superiority of Melchizedek to the law of Moses; this was Jesus is also superior to the law of Moses.
This chapter never, again does not tell us to give tithes to pastors, if we pay tithes to them, we're living according to the levitical levites, mortal men like pastors. Jesus Christ is superior to the law of Moses. If Jesus Christ is superior to the law of Moses and Levi, in Abraham's loins paid tithe to Melchizedek or Jesus, why then do we need to give tithes to pastors or even levites anymore since we now live above the law by our saviour himself?
Dear brother, it seems to me that we're plainly paying tithes according to the law we are now superior to through the Lord Jesus Christ which is not supposed to be so.


Alexk2:

Interesting!!!... But let's look at it this way..
“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin [that is, various herbs], and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others [tithes] undone” (Matthew 23:23; compare Luke 11:42, emphasis added throughout).

Here, only days before His death by crucifixion, Christ plainly confirmed that tithing should be practiced, along with spiritual adherence to the “weightier” matters that the scribes and Pharisees were obviously neglecting.

God had earlier instructed the Israelites to support the tribe of Levi for its temple service. They did this by giving the Levites God’s tithe—this support providing the means for Israel to worship the Creator and be taught according to His will.

But with the destruction of the temple in A.D. 70, the functioning of the Levitical priesthood in the national worship system was not able to continue in the same way. Moreover, Jesus had given the awesome responsibility to proclaim God’s truth to the Church He built (Matthew 16:18; Matthew 28:18-20).

Even prior to the temple’s destruction, members of God’s Church and followers of the gospel message gave monetary and other types of aid to Jesus and His apostles, disciples and later other laborers helping to spread the gospel. The work Christ had given His Church to do had to be supported (1 Corinthians 9:9-14).

Anticipating the end of the national worship system, Hebrews 7:12 refers to a change in the administration of tithing that accompanied a change in the priesthood. In Hebrews 7:1-19 it’s explained that the ancestor of the Levites, Abraham, paid tithes to the priest-king Melchizedek—a figure called the “king of righteousness” and “king of peace,” with no beginning or end, who was evidently the preincarnate Jesus. And now the tithes would go directly to Melchizedek again through His representatives.

The New Testament Church—the spiritual temple of God (1 Corinthians 3:16; Ephesians 2:19-22)—was superior to the physical temple that was destroyed when Jerusalem fell to the Roman army. And as the Church’s representatives, the New Testament apostles became the recipients of the tithes of God’s people (see Acts 4:35-37).

When we carefully explore the New Testament and the experience of the early Church, we should understand that the emergence of the Church did not mean a radical departure from the religious practices of the nation of Israel. Both the apostles Peter and Paul clearly upheld Old Testament teachings (2 Peter 1:20-21; 2 Peter 3:2, 2 Timothy 2:15; 2 Timothy 3:15-17).

Not until several decades after the founding of the New Testament Church does the book of Hebrews clarify the impact this new spiritual administration involving tithing had on the Church.

Because of its continuance in Old Testament practices, though sometimes applied in a new way, for decades the Church was regarded by outsiders as merely another sect of the Jews, but one that believed in the divinity of Jesus Christ. The Church is the spiritual forerunner in Israel’s New Covenant relationship with God and is even called “the Israel of God” in Galatians 6:16.

The opportunity for salvation was extended beyond the nation of Israel and offered to non-Israelites—those who would be called into the Church from all nations, being thereby grafted into Israel (see Romans 11:1-36; Ephesians 2:11-19; 1 Peter 2:9-10). This new spiritual nation would provide obedience through a converted heart (Matthew 21:43).
Re: Daddy Freeze Bags 'Religious Disruption Award'. See Reactions by Alexk2(m): 9:36pm On Dec 18, 2018
Nazaretha1:
In Mat 23:23 and Luke 11:42, the Lord was referring to the Pharisees, the scribes and the lawyers and let's not forget that these people were Israeli nationals. That verse had nothing to do whatsoever with gentiles, nor the church receiving tithes of money. Remember, the verse said, "mint, anise and cumin", these are plants. In fact, the Lord made it clear that giving tithes etc, though good and lawful when it's been given to those who have rights to it (the levites) is less important than loving God and doing what is right in his sight.
Here, Christ not only confirmed that tithe should be given only to those who the Mosaic law stated that it be given, not gentiles, not even non-levitical jews, but also confirmed that tithe should be given as farm produce.
Yes, according to apostle Paul in 1st Corinthians 9, the work of God needs not just spiritual assistance or importation, men of God, people of God etc should also be assisted with monetary, material things. It is not just lawful but it is a good thing if we truly are stern believers in the Lord. He who works should be appreciated although Paul knows that his reward comes from God but while he was here, he had needs to (remember when he thanked the church for sending him clothing and food etc). These things are human necessities, they had nothing to do with tithing. Paul was a Benjamite, he, nor any of the apostles, even some disciples from the tribe of Levi never received tithes because thy knew that it was unlawful for those who are not levites and those who were levites knew that they would be fulfilling a part of the law without fulfilling others and a curse will be upon them. Besides, they knew they were not subject to the Mosaic law anymore but have been reconciled to God through grace.
Hebrew 7, the whole chapter plainly talks about the uniqueness of the forever priesthood of Jesus, relating to Melchizedek who was not from the house of Levi, Jesus also was not from the house of Levi. The chapter says it can be counted as Levi, in Abraham's loins paid tithe to Melchizedek, proving the superiority of Melchizedek to the law of Moses; this was Jesus is also superior to the law of Moses.
This chapter never, again does not tell us to give tithes to pastors, if we pay tithes to them, we're living according to the levitical levites, mortal men like pastors. Jesus Christ is superior to the law of Moses. If Jesus Christ is superior to the law of Moses and Levi, in Abraham's loins paid tithe to Melchizedek or Jesus, why then do we need to give tithes to pastors or even levites anymore since we now live above the law by our saviour himself?
Dear brother, it seems to me that we're plainly paying tithes according to the law we are now superior to through the Lord Jesus Christ which is not supposed to be so.


You've narrowed it down to whether tithing should be a new testament thing or not and to whom it should be given(levies or pastors) but I'll just emphasize Jesus perspective on tithing this way;

In Matthew 23:23 and Luke 11:42(please study this passages with different versions for clearer understanding) Jesus referred to tithing as something that should not be neglected…

“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.”

So if you are still wondering what Jesus said about tithing or if “tithe” is in the New Testament, you have it right there in Luke 11:42.
Secondly on to who should our tithe be given in this new covenant is simply whoever represent the levite in the new covenant. Remember when Jesus died on the cross and immediately, the viel seperating the "holy place" from the rest of the temple was rent into two signifying that we all have direct access to God through Jesus Christ and hence no need for any levite or priest to make "sacrifice" on anyone's behalf. So levite or priest is no longer by birth but by choices we make to dedicate ourselves unto God... The same applies to "Nazareth". No more Jews, or levite or gentiles classification in this new covenant; the only common denominator is Christ Jesus.
However, a new provision for spiritual offices like apostles, evangelists, pastors, bishops, deacons etc as clearly specified in the new testament and in place of temples, we have churches. So, the people in this "offices" are now the livites and priests of our time..
Re: Daddy Freeze Bags 'Religious Disruption Award'. See Reactions by CandidateOfHell: 8:06pm On Dec 19, 2018
Donald95:


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If what he says is stupid, why don't you reactors prove him wrong with facts and figures

Re: Daddy Freeze Bags 'Religious Disruption Award'. See Reactions by Nazaretha1(m): 12:16am On Dec 22, 2018
Bro, if these people really are the levites and priests of today, why do they not take tithes of farm and animal produce?
Why do they take tithe from the poor; even the conservative old testament frowned on taking tithe from the poor and from widows.
Why do they not after receiving all tithes, take 10 percent and share the rest to the widows and to the poor as it is written in the levitical laws?
Why do they choose one part of the law without duly following the rest as the bible says?
Why don't they not ask people to take their tithes to wherever the Lord, their God pleases and eat and make merry in his sight?
Why do they still receive tithes if there's no temple?
If the Lord, our God doesn't live in material temples but in temples of our hearts, why do we pay tithes to material temples made of bricks?
If they are the levites and priests of our time, being spiritual descendants of the apostles, why did the apostles and Christians for over 300 years in the midst of persecution by the Roman empire before emperor Constantine, not take tithe?
The apostles, e.g; Paul, could've easily taken some tithe when he was in need to the extent that people had to send him human basic materials to sustain himself.


Alexk2:

You've narrowed it down to whether tithing should be a new testament thing or not and to whom it should be given(levies or pastors) but I'll just emphasize Jesus perspective on tithing this way;

In Matthew 23:23 and Luke 11:42(please study this passages with different versions for clearer understanding) Jesus referred to tithing as something that should not be neglected…

“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.”

So if you are still wondering what Jesus said about tithing or if “tithe” is in the New Testament, you have it right there in Luke 11:42.
Secondly on to who should our tithe be given in this new covenant is simply whoever represent the levite in the new covenant. Remember when Jesus died on the cross and immediately, the viel seperating the "holy place" from the rest of the temple was rent into two signifying that we all have direct access to God through Jesus Christ and hence no need for any levite or priest to make "sacrifice" on anyone's behalf. So levite or priest is no longer by birth but by choices we make to dedicate ourselves unto God... The same applies to "Nazareth". No more Jews, or levite or gentiles classification in this new covenant; the only common denominator is Christ Jesus.
However, a new provision for spiritual offices like apostles, evangelists, pastors, bishops, deacons etc as clearly specified in the new testament and in place of temples, we have churches. So, the people in this "offices" are now the livites and priests of our time..

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