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Re: Nigerian Scientists Find Cure For Banana Disease by uyakachi(m): 1:02am On Aug 07, 2010
Very good news.Though it will be very good to mention the names of the actual Nigerian scientists involved so that we can be sure they are actually Nigerians and not some foreigners working in IITA.

supported
Re: Nigerian Scientists Find Cure For Banana Disease by AkinEgba: 2:11am On Aug 07, 2010
No Nigerians are involved. Lena, biotechnologist and Ranajit, pathologist, are both indians. Core banana research is now done in Uganda where the reported cure for Xanthomonas was found. The last tangible research on banana in ITTA Nigeria was done at Onne, Rivers State before the lab was closed down. Banana biology research at IITA Ibadan is almost dead as of today, just skeletal field work.
Re: Nigerian Scientists Find Cure For Banana Disease by PhysicsQED(m): 2:38am On Aug 07, 2010
No Nigerians are involved. Lena, biotechnologist and Ranajit, pathologist, are both indians. Core banana research is now done in Uganda where the reported cure for Xanthomonas was found. The last tangible research on banana in ITTA Nigeria was done at Onne, Rivers State before the lab was closed down. Banana biology research at IITA Ibadan is almost dead as of today, just skeletal field work.


Tragic.
Re: Nigerian Scientists Find Cure For Banana Disease by Nobody: 2:49am On Aug 07, 2010
Akin-Egba:

No Nigerians are involved. Lena, biotechnologist and Ranajit, pathologist, are both indians. Core banana research is now done in Uganda where the reported cure for Xanthomonas was found. The last tangible research on banana in ITTA Nigeria was done at Onne, Rivers State before the lab was closed down. Banana biology research at IITA Ibadan is almost dead as of today, just skeletal field work.

Thank you. Party pooper.
Re: Nigerian Scientists Find Cure For Banana Disease by PhysicsQED(m): 9:42am On Aug 07, 2010
A moderator should correct the title of this thread, and spare Nigerians the illusion of success (might make us even more complacent with our low level of present achievement) and bare to them the face of the reality. We aren't going after scientific achievement with the same level of funding and societal support as Indians, Chinese, Japanese, and almost all Europeans . In a country where we would prefer that our youth, whether they stay here or go abroad, become rich bankers rather than mathematicians, rich nurses or dentists rather than biochemists, and study anything but "useless" subjects like physics, astronomy, etc. that are the foundations of knowledge, progress, and the technological (and therefore economic) power that industrialized nations have over us, how can we be surprised that we won't even cure a disease affecting a non-essential food, despite making a small (not greatly funded, or sufficiently publicized, or supported in any other way) but legitimate attempt, not to talk of the greater things which I know deep down that we are really capable of.

There is nothing wrong with being a banker, nurse, dentist, or any other practical occupation, and given that we have not yet developed the infrastructure, power supply, or manufacturing capability to develop a healthy business environment for the improvement of our employment, economy, etc it is actually very respectable to provide for one's dependents instead of chasing "dreams" of technological achievement. We cannot support financially costly research on any significant level because we don't even have extra money.

But sometimes it seems clear that we blindly worship money, the same way some of our ancestors obsessed over the useless trinkets, clothes, drinks, that European traders brought instead of the mechanisms of the ships, guns, compasses, that they first brought.

To get this infrastructure we can at least ATTEMPT to use civil engineering, mechanical engineering, and find SMART solutions to the cost and time of building the necessary infrastructure. Or we can focus our technical competence on oil exploration only (not even refining!), thus limiting our total technological expertise, and then sell ourselves out to oil companies to use the scraps they give us as payment to pay slow contractors.

To get this power supply we can at least ATTEMPT to apply physics and mechanical engineering to nuclear engineering, apply mechanical, electrical, and chemical engineering to solar energy(don't we have huge desert areas?) , apply physics and mechanical engineering to wind energy, or at least build loads of coal plants like the Americans and Chinese using the coal which we do have. Even if its not yet clean technologically, how much dirtier can Nigeria really get, considering how much damage we've already done for something (oil) that doesn't allow us to sustain ourselves. Or we can just cling to our costly generators.

To get this manufacturing capacity we have to delve deep enough into applied physics, chemistry, and engineering, to allow us to compete with or possibly take one or two leads in producing extremely affordable and useful products, that others cannot make as well or sell to as large an emerging market as well/easily (the African market) and to allow us to use this expertise for the benefit of Nigeria and all of Africa later on (i.e. encourage indigenous scientists and technological entrepreneurs first, then attempt to involve government directly). Or we can just buy Chinese made and retard our own potential and achievement.

But I'm a dreamer. *Sigh*
Re: Nigerian Scientists Find Cure For Banana Disease by philip0906(m): 10:40am On Aug 07, 2010
~Dream Land~ grin grin grin
Re: Nigerian Scientists Find Cure For Banana Disease by Fynist(m): 12:54pm On Aug 07, 2010
PhysicsQED:

A moderator should correct the title of this thread, and spare Nigerians the illusion of success (might make us even more complacent with our low level of present achievement) and bare to them the face of the reality. We aren't going after scientific achievement with the same level of funding and societal support as Indians, Chinese, Japanese, and almost all Europeans . In a country where we would prefer that our youth, whether they stay here or go abroad, become rich bankers rather than mathematicians, rich nurses or dentists rather than biochemists, and study anything but "useless" subjects like physics, astronomy, etc. that are the foundations of knowledge, progress, and the technological (and therefore economic) power that industrialized nations have over us, how can we be surprised that we won't even cure a disease affecting a non-essential food, despite making a small (not greatly funded, or sufficiently publicized, or supported in any other way) but legitimate attempt, not to talk of the greater things which I know deep down that we are really capable of.

There is nothing wrong with being a banker, nurse, dentist, or any other practical occupation, and given that we have not yet developed the infrastructure, power supply, or manufacturing capability to develop a healthy business environment for the improvement of our employment, economy, etc it is actually very respectable to provide for one's dependents instead of chasing "dreams" of technological achievement. We cannot support financially costly research on any significant level because we don't even have extra money.

But sometimes it seems clear that we blindly worship money, the same way some of our ancestors obsessed over the useless trinkets, clothes, drinks, that European traders brought instead of the mechanisms of the ships, guns, compasses, that they first brought.

To get this infrastructure we can at least ATTEMPT to use civil engineering, mechanical engineering, and find SMART solutions to the cost and time of building the necessary infrastructure. Or we can focus our technical competence on oil exploration only (not even refining!), thus limiting our total technological expertise, and then sell ourselves out to oil companies to use the scraps they give us as payment to pay slow contractors.

To get this power supply we can at least ATTEMPT to apply physics and mechanical engineering to nuclear engineering, apply mechanical, electrical, and chemical engineering to solar energy(don't we have huge desert areas?) , apply physics and mechanical engineering to wind energy, or at least build loads of coal plants like the Americans and Chinese using the coal which we do have. Even if its not yet clean technologically, how much dirtier can Nigeria really get, considering how much damage we've already done for something (oil) that doesn't allow us to sustain ourselves. Or we can just cling to our costly generators.

To get this manufacturing capacity we have to delve deep enough into applied physics, chemistry, and engineering, to allow us to compete with or possibly take one or two leads in producing extremely affordable and useful products, that others cannot make as well or sell to as large an emerging market as well/easily (the African market)  and to allow us to use this expertise for the benefit of Nigeria and all of Africa later on (i.e. encourage indigenous scientists and technological entrepreneurs first, then attempt to involve government directly). Or we can just buy Chinese made and retard our own potential and achievement.

But I'm a dreamer. *Sigh*
Hey fella i bliv in your dreams.But dnt u think in this country all of diz drims might b a nightmare.Unless u r dreaming wif your eyez Open.@poster the researchers ain't Nigerians. undecided
Re: Nigerian Scientists Find Cure For Banana Disease by tnthommie(m): 2:39pm On Aug 07, 2010
Naija no dey carry last grin grin

Thumbs up
Re: Nigerian Scientists Find Cure For Banana Disease by 9jafreak: 3:13pm On Aug 07, 2010
Bravo!
Re: Nigerian Scientists Find Cure For Banana Disease by 4Play(m): 3:50pm On Aug 07, 2010
Who are the Nigerian scientists involved in this discovery? Dr Leena Tripathi, for instance, is Indian. Very sad bunch.
Re: Nigerian Scientists Find Cure For Banana Disease by AkinEgba: 4:35pm On Aug 07, 2010
4 Play:

Who are the Nigerian scientists involved in this discovery? Dr Leena Tripathi, for instance, is Indian. Very sad bunch.

None. The Nigerian scientists in IITA's biological research are second class ones and they are very few. The good ones are only in the socio-economics aspects of the research findings (public adaptive stage)
Re: Nigerian Scientists Find Cure For Banana Disease by Akosbaba(m): 12:02am On Aug 08, 2010
^^^hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Re: Nigerian Scientists Find Cure For Banana Disease by Akosbaba(m): 12:03am On Aug 08, 2010
^^^hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Re: Nigerian Scientists Find Cure For Banana Disease by PhysicsQED(m): 12:35am On Aug 08, 2010
philip0906:

~Dream Land~ grin grin grin

Hush.

Fynist:

Hey fella i bliv in your dreams.But dnt u think in this country all of diz drims might b a nightmare.Unless u r dreaming wif your eyez Open.@poster the researchers ain't Nigerians. undecided

What do you mean?
Re: Nigerian Scientists Find Cure For Banana Disease by SALady(f): 3:44pm On Aug 08, 2010
Its an absolute two thumbs up from me.
Re: Nigerian Scientists Find Cure For Banana Disease by PhysicsQED(m): 11:28pm On Aug 08, 2010
Moderators, please correct the title of this thread. Or lock it. People are coming in here and being deceived.
Re: Nigerian Scientists Find Cure For Banana Disease by philip0906(m): 11:51pm On Aug 08, 2010
PhysicsQED:

Hush.

What do you mean?
Re: Nigerian Scientists Find Cure For Banana Disease by PhysicsQED(m): 1:50am On Aug 09, 2010
philip0906:



What is origin of your confusion? He said something about a "nightmare" and I asked him to clarify.

Oh and I told you to hush because your carefree, jovial attitude incensed me a bit. I've nothing against you, but it really isn't funny that these are still only dreams and that we can't cure a banana disease but think we could have a space program (and I'm not talking about that communications satellite). We need change.
Re: Nigerian Scientists Find Cure For Banana Disease by Nobody: 7:44am On Aug 09, 2010
Kudos to those Nigerian Scientists,
Re: Nigerian Scientists Find Cure For Banana Disease by VALIDATOR: 8:33am On Aug 09, 2010
what.lyf:

Kudos to those Nigerian Scientists,


@what.lyf,
a quick reading of this page should have made you to see that the scientists were not Nigerians but Indians but like most Nigerians,you didn't read it before posting.
Re: Nigerian Scientists Find Cure For Banana Disease by dustydee: 9:20am On Aug 09, 2010
welldone
Re: Nigerian Scientists Find Cure For Banana Disease by viclee009: 2:11pm On Aug 09, 2010
what about cassava and akpu disease. men this stinks grin grin grin
Re: Nigerian Scientists Find Cure For Banana Disease by Nobody: 8:53pm On Aug 09, 2010
@validator

Abi o, i no even read am finish because i knw say wen it comes to cure and discoveries, naija scientists no fit carry first, na mouth dem just dey tear,
Re: Nigerian Scientists Find Cure For Banana Disease by idifu(m): 10:12am On Aug 10, 2010
our politicians should take a cue from the scientists by finding a cure to the sick country called Nigeria by reducing poverty,refocusing the country and putting it on the world map

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