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Re: Ben Bruce Shades Buhari For Overthrowing Shagari's Administration In 1983 by maasoap(m): 12:01pm On Dec 29, 2018
echodrum:
Just because you typed in block letters does not mean you are making sense. Is what Ben said true or not?

Dr. Junaid is suffering from poor memory of History by saying that Buhari overthrown Late Sheu Shagari's government in 1983. Buhari was never part of the coup that terminated the NPN government of Shagari. Buhari became Head of State as a result of the junta inabilty to pick a leader among themselves perhaps because of the death of Brigadier Bako who was killed by National Guards protecting Shagari then. The faith the young soldiers had in Buhari's personality led to his selection to be the Head of State after they had succeeded with the coup. Buhari became Head of State as a matter of necessity, so Junaid should keep quiet for ever.
Junaid knows the truth but just trying to confused those who were too young then and the generality of our youths.

teejet:
POINT OF CORRECTION!

PMB WAS NOT THE ONE THAT OVERTHROW SHAGARI.

THE SENIOR ARMY GENERALS DID.

HE WAS NOT EVEN IN THE COUNTRY WHEN SHAGARI WAS OVERTHROWN .

HE HAD TO BE RECALLED FROM A TRAINING OVERSEAS TO COME AND LEAD THE NEW GOVERNMENT
IN ORDER TO GIVE THE NEW GOVERNMENT CREDIBILITY!

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Re: Ben Bruce Shades Buhari For Overthrowing Shagari's Administration In 1983 by Nobody: 12:04pm On Dec 29, 2018
tsephanyah:
Someone told me ladies don’t cuss. Guess what? Sometimes we fu#king do. You can curse and still be a smart, beautiful woman. We can be flawed, yet fierce and funny. But the best women are those who know they can be whatever the f#ck they want. Ben the Albino of common sense
are u sure u are alright ?
Re: Ben Bruce Shades Buhari For Overthrowing Shagari's Administration In 1983 by winj3: 12:09pm On Dec 29, 2018
Like may Nigerians, it show how simpleton they are. Imagine a political leader like this fool equating soft spoken and humble with great leadership!

Ben Bruce is a m0ron!

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Re: Ben Bruce Shades Buhari For Overthrowing Shagari's Administration In 1983 by Ubiudumo(m): 12:09pm On Dec 29, 2018
kitaatita:
Why is Mr. Bruce fixated on ethnic politics; with the Igbo as his reference point? Can't he talk about Shagari's death without bringing Igbo into it? Is the average Ijaw man better than the Igbo in Nigeria? What gives minions like Mr. Bruce, FFK and Fayose the impetus to act as spokesmen for Igbo renaissance?
That was a statement of fact. He did not lie.

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Re: Ben Bruce Shades Buhari For Overthrowing Shagari's Administration In 1983 by Tenn88: 12:15pm On Dec 29, 2018
tsephanyah:
Someone told me ladies don’t cuss. Guess what? Sometimes we fu#king do. You can curse and still be a smart, beautiful woman. We can be flawed, yet fierce and funny. But the best women are those who know they can be whatever the f#ck they want. Ben the Albino of common sense
stop taking drugs!
Re: Ben Bruce Shades Buhari For Overthrowing Shagari's Administration In 1983 by bizzibodi(m): 12:16pm On Dec 29, 2018
Ignoramus abound on nairaland was it buhari that overthrown Shagari or IBB & Audu Bako.
Re: Ben Bruce Shades Buhari For Overthrowing Shagari's Administration In 1983 by iamademola(m): 12:16pm On Dec 29, 2018
tsephanyah:
Someone told me ladies don’t cuss. Guess what? Sometimes we fu#king do. You can curse and still be a smart, beautiful woman. We can be flawed, yet fierce and funny. But the best women are those who know they can be whatever the f#ck they want. Ben the Albino of common sense

Women!!
Re: Ben Bruce Shades Buhari For Overthrowing Shagari's Administration In 1983 by Tenn88: 12:16pm On Dec 29, 2018
You well so? undecided
RevLikeBigYansh:
Awolowo is responsible for ushering in a military coup that ousted shagari.

Reeling from his loss at the polls, Awolowo will deploy the Lagos-Ibadan presatitutes to demonize the Shagari civilian administration with so much negative propaganda - the likes of which was only repeated again by same SW presstitutes who were deployed by Tinubu to attack Jonathan's govt with the sleaziest form of propaganda that can only be described as slanderous. It was on this corruption propaganda that Buhari used to justify a coup just as they claimed Buhari will recover phantom looted funds that they claimed Jonathan stole.

The same Awo will justify the coup as a necessary evil thinking Buhari will conduct elections and hand over to him. Same thing Tinubu is repeating. Yorubas and Igbos are the ones that give these backward norrthners the audacity to demand they rule you. The Igbos are guilty of propping up northern political domination because it is them that are threatened when the north decides to unleash their greatest weapon - mob violence. If the Igbos relocated from the north, will the north unleash mob violence on themselves? And if they did, will any of us in the south care? As for the Yorubas, they give the north the legal backing by their constant twisting of logic, slander and lies on any southern leadership and their ability to constantly virtue signalling while being guilty of what they accuse you of.
Re: Ben Bruce Shades Buhari For Overthrowing Shagari's Administration In 1983 by ImperialYoruba: 12:26pm On Dec 29, 2018
kitaatita:
Why is Mr. Bruce fixated on ethnic politics; with the Igbo as his reference point? Can't he talk about Shagari's death without bringing Igbo into it? Is the average Ijaw man better than the Igbo in Nigeria? What gives minions like Mr. Bruce, FFK and Fayose the impetus to act as spokesmen for Igbo renaissance?


Igbo is our political commodity, every Nigerian trade them with cheapness.

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Re: Ben Bruce Shades Buhari For Overthrowing Shagari's Administration In 1983 by RevLikeBigYansh: 12:27pm On Dec 29, 2018
bizzibodi:
Ignoramus abound on nairaland was it buhari that overthrown Shagari or IBB & Audu Bako.

Go and buy stolen goods knowing fully well that the goods in question were stolen.

Even if we should exonerate Buhari from being actively involved in executing the coup we should hold him accountable for not honoring the oath of loyalty to Shagari his CnC.

Officers have been executed for less talk more of Buhari who benefited from the coup the most. The case of an officer who was executed alongside Gideon Okah for knowing that a coup was in the making but refused to inform his superiors. This same officer was detained by Buhari after he reported the coup plot against Shagari. During IBB, he was aware of a coup plot but because he suffered arrest when he informed on Buhari's coup plot, he chose to remain silent. He was executed alongside the coupists not as an active conspirator but for failing to inform his superior officers.

Now of that Yoruba officer can be executed for not informing on a coup he knew was on the way but to which he had no part in, then what do you expect the fate of Buhari to be?
Re: Ben Bruce Shades Buhari For Overthrowing Shagari's Administration In 1983 by RevLikeBigYansh: 12:29pm On Dec 29, 2018
bizzibodi:
Ignoramus abound on nairaland was it buhari that overthrown Shagari or IBB & Audu Bako.

Go and buy stolen goods knowing fully well that the goods in question were stolen.

Even if we should exonerate Buhari from being actively involved in executing the coup we should hold him accountable for not honoring the oath of loyalty to Shagari his CnC.

Officers have been executed for less talk more of Buhari who benefited from the coup the most. The case of an officer who was executed alongside Gideon Okah for knowing that a coup was in the making but refused to inform his superiors is a classic example. This same officer was detained by Buhari after he reported the coup plot against Shagari. During IBB, he was aware of a coup plot but because he suffered arrest when he informed on Buhari's coup plot, he chose to remain silent. He was executed alongside the coupists not as an active conspirator but for failing to inform his superior officers.

Now if that Yoruba officer can be executed for not informing on a coup he knew was on the way but to which he had no part in, then what do you expect the fate of Buhari to be?
Re: Ben Bruce Shades Buhari For Overthrowing Shagari's Administration In 1983 by 2n2k(m): 12:37pm On Dec 29, 2018
Ubiudumo:

That was a statement of fact. He did not lie.

Really?

Perhaps it was Buhari that asked Awolowo to warn shagari govt as far back as July 1981 that Nigeria was heading for economic crisis.

It was Buhari that asked shagari govt to ignore Awolowo and even abused him calling him prophet of doom

It was Buhari that caused the Nigerian economy to go into recession less than one year later that forced shagari govt to enact Economic Stabilization Act otherwise known as Austerity Measures in April 1982.

It was him who introduced import licence in June 1982 to ration the very low foreign reserve.

Buhari asked IMF to demand that naira be devalued in January 1983 with other conditionalities which shagari rejected and Buhari that came in a year later also rejected but had to be surreptitiously accepted by Babangida 3 years later under the guise of SAP and SFEM.

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Re: Ben Bruce Shades Buhari For Overthrowing Shagari's Administration In 1983 by Henri8: 12:43pm On Dec 29, 2018
Esseite:


Between shagari and 1999 is how many years?
Was Buhari not leader immediately after shagari?
Ask the kid. Most those idiots were born in 2015.

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Re: Ben Bruce Shades Buhari For Overthrowing Shagari's Administration In 1983 by theoldpretender(m): 1:19pm On Dec 29, 2018
RevLikeBigYansh:
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Between Dec 1st 1983 to Jan 31st 1984, Nigeria's foreign reserves dipped significantly.

Buhari looted Nigeria dry in one month.

The recession was heralded by Buhari looting our treasury the very next day.

The oil boom ended in October 1982 when oil prices crashed.

Add the wasteage and the massively bad economic policies, and the Second Republic government was not any good.

As I said, still does not justify any coup though. If Buhari wanted to change things, he should have left the army and joined politics.

Bubu's army government was not into looting. They punished looters like Barkin Zuwo of Kano who kept 10million naira under his bed, as well as many other politicians who looted and looted.

Read Karl. Maier 's This House has fallen for more details

I think that Bubu, while not being a looter, did not make the hard choices needed to.make the economy better then.

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Re: Ben Bruce Shades Buhari For Overthrowing Shagari's Administration In 1983 by 77up(m): 1:30pm On Dec 29, 2018
That is the shit some (cox some of them actually get sense) igbos subjected themselves to , since those stupid Twitter senators( Ben Bruce, Dino, sheu and other senatweets) knew they are the only set of people that can easily fall for their gimmicks just for because of the hate they have for buhari.

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Re: Ben Bruce Shades Buhari For Overthrowing Shagari's Administration In 1983 by Vello(m): 1:34pm On Dec 29, 2018
eyeview:
On the day shagari died was the same day and hour buhari was in Uyo boasting that he jailed shagari "when he was in uniform"
I'd gladly do same if I were Buhari. Are you guys cursed with amnesia and does corruption run in your fucking blood that you won't appreciate when evil people that brought this Country to her knees are made to pay for their sins.
May Shehu Shagari's soul rest in peace but fact remains he was the Atiku of his time. History won't be kind on him as his legacy lives after him. Period!

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Re: Ben Bruce Shades Buhari For Overthrowing Shagari's Administration In 1983 by Chimok: 1:43pm On Dec 29, 2018
kitaatita:
Why is Mr. Bruce fixated on ethnic politics; with the Igbo as his reference point? Can't he talk about Shagari's death without bringing Igbo into it? Is the average Ijaw man better than the Igbo in Nigeria? What gives minions like Mr. Bruce, FFK and Fayose the impetus to act as spokesmen for Igbo renaissance?
My brother, the way these good for nothing fellows make reference to Igbos insults me each time. A tribe that beget some of the most prominent persons in Africa - Zik, Anyaoku, Achebe etc. e jus tire me
Re: Ben Bruce Shades Buhari For Overthrowing Shagari's Administration In 1983 by KillTheZombies: 1:46pm On Dec 29, 2018
I agree with Ben Bruce.
Re: Ben Bruce Shades Buhari For Overthrowing Shagari's Administration In 1983 by Oblang(m): 1:51pm On Dec 29, 2018
RevLikeBigYansh:
Awolowo is responsible for ushering in a military coup that ousted shagari.

Reeling from his loss at the polls, Awolowo will deploy the Lagos-Ibadan presatitutes to demonize the Shagari civilian administration with so much negative propaganda - the likes of which was only repeated again by same SW presstitutes who were deployed by Tinubu to attack Jonathan's govt with the sleaziest form of propaganda that can only be described as slanderous. It was on this corruption propaganda that Buhari used to justify a coup just as they claimed Buhari will recover phantom looted funds that they claimed Jonathan stole.

The same Awo will justify the coup as a necessary evil thinking Buhari will conduct elections and hand over to him. Same thing Tinubu is repeating. Yorubas and Igbos are the ones that give these backward norrthners the audacity to demand they rule you. The Igbos are guilty of propping up northern political domination because it is them that are threatened when the north decides to unleash their greatest weapon - mob violence. If the Igbos relocated from the north, will the north unleash mob violence on themselves? And if they did, will any of us in the south care? As for the Yorubas, they give the north the legal backing by their constant twisting of logic, slander and lies on any southern leadership and their ability to constantly virtue signalling while being guilty of what they accuse you of.

So according to this ur gibberish, Shagari is a southern leader...

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Re: Ben Bruce Shades Buhari For Overthrowing Shagari's Administration In 1983 by dallyemmy: 1:58pm On Dec 29, 2018
Ajaokuta steel would have been a good opportunity to diversify our economy but here we are where we were before deceiving ourselves.
Re: Ben Bruce Shades Buhari For Overthrowing Shagari's Administration In 1983 by eyeview: 2:03pm On Dec 29, 2018
Vello:

I'd gladly do same if I were Buhari. Are you guys cursed with amnesia and does corruption run in your fucking blood that you won't appreciate when evil people that brought this Country to her knees are made to pay for their sins.
May Shehu Shagari's soul rest in peace but fact remains he was the Atiku of his time. History won't be kind on him as his legacy lives after him. Period!

Son, I don't know how old you are but buhari as at then was worse than shagari in corruption.
I still remember the celebration across the nation in 1985 when buhari was toppled
Re: Ben Bruce Shades Buhari For Overthrowing Shagari's Administration In 1983 by Alao96(m): 2:08pm On Dec 29, 2018
madridguy:
LET HIM CONTINUE SHADING PMB WHILE MAI GASKIYA IS CRUISING FOR SECOND TERM IN OFFICE. USELESS TWITTER WARRIOR SENATOR WITH NOTHING TO SHOW FOR HIS CONSTITUENCY.

MAY ALLAH SWT ACCEPT THE SOUL OF SHEHU SHAGARI, GRANT HIM HIGHEST PLACE IN AL JANNAH FIRDAOUS. AMEE.


Mai Gaskiya kill you there
Re: Ben Bruce Shades Buhari For Overthrowing Shagari's Administration In 1983 by Deadlytruth(m): 2:10pm On Dec 29, 2018
RevLikeBigYansh:
[s][/s]

Between Dec 1st 1983 to Jan 31st 1984, Nigeria's foreign reserves dipped significantly.

Buhari looted Nigeria dry in one month.

The recession was heralded by Buhari looting our treasury the very next day.

Buhari took power Dec. 31 1983, so if foreign reserves started dippeing on Dec. 1 1983, then it means it started under Shagari who was still in power as at Dec. 1 1983 to Dec. 31 same year.
Also recall that Operation Ghana-must-go which was the government's response to Nigeria's rapidly falling economy was launched by the Shagari-Ekweme government....an evidence that the recession of the 80s actually started under Shagari due to the monumental looting and misrule that formed the hallmarks of the NPN government.

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Re: Ben Bruce Shades Buhari For Overthrowing Shagari's Administration In 1983 by Alao96(m): 2:11pm On Dec 29, 2018
kitaatita:
Why is Mr. Bruce fixated on ethnic politics; with the Igbo as his reference point? Can't he talk about Shagari's death without bringing Igbo into it? Is the average Ijaw man better than the Igbo in Nigeria? What gives minions like Mr. Bruce, FFK and Fayose the impetus to act as spokesmen for Igbo renaissance?


He just said it's mind...I don't see any tribal sentiment here
Re: Ben Bruce Shades Buhari For Overthrowing Shagari's Administration In 1983 by RevLikeBigYansh: 2:12pm On Dec 29, 2018
[s]
Deadlytruth:


Buhari took power Dec. 31 1983, so if foreign reserves started dippeing on Dec. 1 1983, then it means it started under Shagari who was still in power as at Dec. 1 1983 to Dec. 31 same year.
Also recall that Operation Ghana-must-go which was the government's response to Nigeria's rapidly falling economy was launched by the Shagari-Ekweme government....an evidence that the recession of the 80s actually started under Shagari due to the monumental looting and misrule that formed the hallmarks of the NPN government.
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The available records were presented on a cumulative monthly basis.

Immediately after seizing power, Buhari looted the treasury.
Re: Ben Bruce Shades Buhari For Overthrowing Shagari's Administration In 1983 by Alao96(m): 2:17pm On Dec 29, 2018
NIGERIA NO MESSIAH CAN SAVE YOU OOOO...ONLY YOU CAN SAVE YOURSELVES FROM TYRANNY....AMERICA CANT SAVE YOU BRITAIN CANT SAVE YOU...OMLY YOU (NIGERIANS ) CAN SAVE YOUR SELVES.. YOU HAVE THE POWER TO MAKE AND DESTROY A BAD GOVERNMENT. THE POWER IS IN YOUR HANDS
Re: Ben Bruce Shades Buhari For Overthrowing Shagari's Administration In 1983 by Deadlytruth(m): 2:18pm On Dec 29, 2018
RevLikeBigYansh:
[s][/s]

The available records were presented on a cumulative monthly basis.

Immediately after seizing power, Buhari looted the treasury.

Unfortunately those your 'available' records contradict the reality that Buhari took over Dec. 31 which was 30 days after the Dec 1. you claim foreign reserves started plummetting.

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Re: Ben Bruce Shades Buhari For Overthrowing Shagari's Administration In 1983 by Deadlytruth(m): 2:24pm On Dec 29, 2018
RevLikeBigYansh:
Awolowo is responsible for ushering in a military coup that ousted shagari.

Reeling from his loss at the polls, Awolowo will deploy the Lagos-Ibadan presatitutes to demonize the Shagari civilian administration with so much negative propaganda - the likes of which was only repeated again by same SW presstitutes who were deployed by Tinubu to attack Jonathan's govt with the sleaziest form of propaganda that can only be described as slanderous. It was on this corruption propaganda that Buhari used to justify a coup just as they claimed Buhari will recover phantom looted funds that they claimed Jonathan stole.

The same Awo will justify the coup as a necessary evil thinking Buhari will conduct elections and hand over to him. Same thing Tinubu is repeating. Yorubas and Igbos are the ones that give these backward norrthners the audacity to demand they rule you. The Igbos are guilty of propping up northern political domination because it is them that are threatened when the north decides to unleash their greatest weapon - mob violence. If the Igbos relocated from the north, will the north unleash mob violence on themselves? And if they did, will any of us in the south care? As for the Yorubas, they give the north the legal backing by their constant twisting of logic, slander and lies on any southern leadership and their ability to constantly virtue signalling while being guilty of what they accuse you of.

In all these your attempts to spin history you were not honest enough to remind your readers that your brother Zik and his Igbo political brethren were the first southerners to partner with the North in 1959 to persecute their fellow southerners whose decision to help themselves against the Hausafulani-Igbo Oligarchy onslaught led to the Igbo tragedy on the long run. You also could not spare a single line to remind us how your own brother Aguiyi Ironsi pioneered the introduction of military take over in Nigeria and how he destroyed the very world class model system of governance which we all unanimously agreed to as a sovereign people thus his laying of the foundation for the overall failed state status of Nigeria till today.

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Re: Ben Bruce Shades Buhari For Overthrowing Shagari's Administration In 1983 by Xander85: 2:25pm On Dec 29, 2018
RevLikeBigYansh:


Go and buy stolen goods knowing fully well that the goods in question were stolen.

Even if we should exonerate Buhari from being actively involved in executing the coup we should hold him accountable for not honoring the oath of loyalty to Shagari his CnC.

Officers have been executed for less talk more of Buhari who benefited from the coup the most. The case of an officer who was executed alongside Gideon Okah for knowing that a coup was in the making but refused to inform his superiors. This same officer was detained by Buhari after he reported the coup plot against Shagari. During IBB, he was aware of a coup plot but because he suffered arrest when he informed on Buhari's coup plot, he chose to remain silent. He was executed alongside the coupists not as an active conspirator but for failing to inform his superior officers.

Now of that Yoruba officer can be executed for not informing on a coup he knew was on the way but to which he had no part in, then what do you expect the fate of Buhari to be?

Funnily enough, that 'Buhari was not aware' ruse that worked so well for them in the past as a get-out-of-jail card, is still being used by them today! shocked
Re: Ben Bruce Shades Buhari For Overthrowing Shagari's Administration In 1983 by RevLikeBigYansh: 2:27pm On Dec 29, 2018
Deadlytruth:


Unfortunately those your 'available' records contradict the reality that Buhari took over Dec. 31 which was 30 days after the Dec 1. you claim foreign reserves started plummetting.

Buhari emptied the treasury on Dec 31st so entries for December appear as if it was Shagari that emptied the treasury..

I will source for daily entries of forex for 1983 and you will see for yourself that the treasury was looted on Dec 31st.

Buhari is a thief
Re: Ben Bruce Shades Buhari For Overthrowing Shagari's Administration In 1983 by Deadlytruth(m): 2:31pm On Dec 29, 2018
RevLikeBigYansh:


Buhari emptied the treasury on Dec 31st so entries for December appear as if it was Shagari that emptied the treasury..

I will source for daily entries of forex for 1983 and you will see for yourself that the treasury was looted on Dec 31st.

Buhari is a thief

We are basing our deduction on your own very claim.
According to you, Foreign reserves began to plummet on Dec. 1 1983.
We however know that Buhari took over on Dec. 31 1983. It then means the plummetting started 30 days before Buhari came to power thus it started under Shagari. This is simple syllogism.

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