tesppidd:
Midfielder?
Ronaldo a midfielder?
Maybe he plays in the midfield of the opponent's 18 yard box. That's the only midfield he plays!!!

Bittch, Ronaldo is nothing but a penalty box footballer.
Take that!


You really need to compare your DNA with Lai's.

Am sure they match!

Evangkatsoulis:


was Ronaldo a forward from 2002 to 2008? Under mourinho's 4231 formation with one forward(benzema/higuain) did he play as forward or as an attacking midfielder? It seems you started watching football 2013 or thereabouts.

tesppidd:
2002 to 2008 Ronaldo was a right winger/right forward who cut into the box and get goals.

2005 to 2008 Messi was a left winger/left forward who cut into the box and get goals.


2009 to 2018 Ronaldo was a left sided forward who always drifted to the 18 yard box and choke Benzema's/Higuain's space.

Anybody who does not know that Ronaldo was always running into Benzema's space as the striker, is either naive or ignorant.

Evangkatsoulis:


Undersabi.
A winger is defined as a NON-DEFENDER who plays primarily at the left/right flanks!
A winger can be a Left/Right Midfielder(LM/RM), a left/right attacking midfielder(LAM/RAM), or a left/right wing forward(LWF/RWF).
So basically a winger can either be a midfieldere or a forward.
Ronaldo played as LM/RM in ferguson's 4-4-2 and as LAM/RAM in pellegrini/mourinho's 4-2-3-1 before becoming a LWF in ancelotti's 4-3-3.
Messi on the other hand started as LWF to a RWF under riijkaard's 433 and 3-4-3 then a CF in guardiola's 4-3-3.
And pls don't get me started on his false 9 role. Your role is limited by your postion.

Evangkatsoulis:


Undersabi.
A winger is defined as a NON-DEFENDER who plays primarily at the left/right flanks!
A winger can be a Left/Right Midfielder(LM/RM), a left/right attacking midfielder(LAM/RAM), or a left/right wing forward(LWF/RWF).
So basically a winger can either be a midfieldere or a forward.
Ronaldo played as LM/RM in ferguson's 4-4-2 and as LAM/RAM in pellegrini/mourinho's 4-2-3-1 before becoming a LWF in ancelotti's 4-3-3.
Messi on the other hand started as LWF to a RWF under riijkaard's 433 and 3-4-3 then a CF in guardiola's 4-3-3.
And pls don't get me started on his false 9 role. Your role is limited by your postion.

tesppidd:
I think am this back and forth!

Ronaldo is a penalty box footballer! PERIOD!



BY THE WAY

You have succeeded in ducking the main point of this argument but I won't let you!

Call it LAM ooh
RAM ooh
Whatever!

Nothing and I repeat Nothing is excuse enough for Ronaldo having played 152 more games than Messi but only scoring 36 goals more.

You're now clutching on straws!

It's simply a very big gulf in class.

No explanation or excuses can account for 152 more games with just 36 more goals.

Even as the midfielder you call him and he still has fewer career assists than Messi.

Enough with the excuses.

Sock it in!

Evangkatsoulis:

Again, your comparison is only valid if and only if they both played as forwards all their careers, which isn't true.
And if you are counting by OPTA's definition of assists forwards get more assists that midfielders.
BTW opta states assists, keypasses are heavily dependent on performance of the shot takers not the passers. So assist is just am EVENT DATA not a PERFORMANCE DATA(which should be used to compare players, learn the difference)

tesppidd:
lol,

You're just so pathetic!

So the narrative you want to press now is that Ronaldo played as a midfielder?
You want to tell us he wasn't playing as an attacking winger in Alex Fergusson' s line up?

Stop lying to save face.
Ronaldo has never played away from the final third be it at man u or madrid.
At madrid he became a penalty box player.
All his career he has played closer to the goal than Messi.
He should have better goal stats than Messi.
But he just isn't as good!

Ronaldo is now a midfielder?
Hehehehehe.
I am sure the goal stats I posted are very well embarrassing.
You have to resort to telling bare-faced lies!


But still,
That should never be an excuse for getting only 36 more goals to Messi in 152 more games?

Abeg just cover your face in shame jare'

You have no argument.

Evangkatsoulis:


between me and you, who is posting false information. So posting youtube thumbnails is a proof of anything. You get brain at all?
Yes, Ronaldo started as a midfielder. Plain 442 formation has no space for attacking midfieders. They only exist in 4231,4312,4321 formations. So ronaldo played as a left/right midfielder in a four-man midfield which is much deeper than right attacking midfielder or any forward position whatsoever.

tesppidd:
So you have never heard of a 4-4-2 which switches into a 4-3-3 from time to time?
Your football knowledge is limited.

You think these formations are cast in stone?
So you don't know that in the course of a game formations so change?
Tweaks are made?

Ronaldo was known for his runs and step overs in the final attacking third at man u.
that was his trade mark.
more than enough opportunities to get him goals;
no excuses!

Messi played as a right winger from 2005 to 2008.
Messi played as a false 9 from 2009 to 2012.
Messi played as a right winger/ midfielder from 2013 to 2019.

Ronaldo played as a left winger/left attacking midfielder from 2002 to 2008.
Ronaldo played as a right winger/striker from 2009 to 2019.

They have played in positions very very very fair enough to compare their goals and assists.

No Excuses, No lies!




A perfect example;

2009 champions league final line up:

Manchester United played a 4-3-3 formation.


4 - 3 - 3.

Park - Rooney - Ronaldo
Anderson - Carrick - Giggs
Oshea - Ferdinand - Vidic - Evra


Stop lying and making excuses!

Evangkatsoulis:


4-3-3 and 4-4-2 do not have space for attacking midfielders.
Ronaldo playing as as forward for united were exceptions rather than the norm. Park and Ronaldo played as forwards may be due to injuries or other problems with berbatov and tevez so 433 was probably the other suitable formation with available players. Sometimes formation is shaped by the avilable players and type of opponents.
Ferguson certainly used 442 more than 90% of the time with Ronaldo as a midfielder and nistelrooy, rooney, saha, berbatov and tevez as forwards.

tesppidd:
big fat lie.

Ferguson used a front trio of Ronaldo Van Nistelroy and Rooney a whole lot of times.

It's a shame he played 152 more games with only 36 more goals.

Evangkatsoulis:


oya show the games he played 433

tesppidd:
lol,

You're just so pathetic!

So the narrative you want to press now is that Ronaldo played as a midfielder?
You want to tell us he wasn't playing as an attacking winger in Alex Fergusson' s line up?

Stop lying to save face.
Ronaldo has never played away from the final third be it at man u or madrid.
At madrid he became a penalty box player.
All his career he has played closer to the goal than Messi.
He should have better goal stats than Messi.
But he just isn't as good!

Ronaldo is now a midfielder?
Hehehehehe.
I am sure the goal stats I posted are very well embarrassing.
You have to resort to telling bare-faced lies!


But still,
That should never be an excuse for getting only 36 more goals to Messi in 152 more games?

Abeg just cover your face in shame jare'

You have no argument.

Evangkatsoulis:


Not forgetting that Ronaldo played his first 150+ league games as a midfieder compared to messi who has been a forward all his career.

Cyoung4real:
I don't understand why some people compare Messi and Ronaldo. Messi plays for one club scored 411 for Barca and 81 goals for Argentina. But Ronaldo plays for Sporting 3 goals, United 84 Goals, Real 311 gaols, Juven (curently) 14 goals. Portugal 103 goals.

Blazebond:
Indomie generation can sabi shout greatest of all time ehn,una sense for football too shallow,i pick maradona over messi anytime anyday,as for pele,he is simply the greatest ever,messi aint even better than johan Cruyff and as far as i am concerned,messi is at the aame level with Cristiano ronaldo,argue with yourself if you wanna argue.

EmekaBlue:
change club messi make we feel u fr anoda league xpecially EPL

braveboy64:

make him leave na to proof us wrong

perdollar:
one footed, one clubbed and one leagued dwarf.

Cyoung4real:
Ronaldo is still the G.O.A.T

Airhuncho:

He was never a midfielder.

Corrosiveman:
For some people saying Ronaldo was a midfielder remember in 2008 he won the best forward award......Dont let hate kill you

Evangkatsoulis:

kaka won the best forward award in 2007 while playing as an attacking midfielder for ac milan.

Corrosiveman:

RONALDO FAN BOYS SAYING HE PLAYED AS A MIDFIELDER IS A BIG FAT LIE